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Alik Bahshi
07-01-2013, 08:57 AM
Alik Bahshi

International terrorism and interested parties



"In times of universal lies to tell the truth - it extremism" George Orwell

"There is a national war The Holy War " These are the words of the famous song of the Great Patriotic War, the Soviet Union,called on the people to defend the homeland from which invaded its territory,the Nazis. Epithet sacred - is the religion, and the Muslims' people's holy war"is not nothing but a jihad, jihad is the one that interested parties today, pursuing, especially their own, selfish political objectives, trying to intimidate the people of Europe and America, the virtual Islamic conspiracy,deliberately looking for the roots of terrorism in religion. Why, in one case,the holy war is a positive sense, and in another (Afghanistan, Chechnya) -Negative?
In an attempt to hide from the international community the real causes of today's terrorism and deflect blame for its occurrence, interested parties, using shortcuts, replace true with false notions. Moreover, they want to present them selves that way defenders of Western civilization against Islam - an extremist, in their interpretation, thereligious ideology that threatens the values ​​of democracy. By the way, I want to mention that every religious dogma is in herently anti-democratic, and, as history has shown, when the clergy came to political power (medieval Europe,Iran, Afghanistan), it was judged obscurantism. Therefore, in civilized countries, separation of religion and state. Islam, along with Christianity,Buddhism and Judaism, is one of the major religions, and to blame Islam, and with it a quarter of the world population, of aiding international terrorismor, even more, because of its appearance, at least, unwise. That appearance,because the modern international terrorism, a phenomenon of our time and is notfrom the past. Not a correlation between the emergence of Islam as a religious ideology and terrorism as a phenomenon. Yes, terrorism is associated with some countries, whose people practice Islam, but the causes of terror are entirely different plane. In addition, deliberate on the part of interested parties or failed search for roots of terror in religion poses a great threat to the world community and opens a Pandora's box from which you will start to spread around the world hate religious fanaticism, which can actually lead to a clash of civilizations. And it is this latter-day prophets sought type of Osama bin Laden and Tehran obscurantism, for an open confrontation between East and Westwould be a justification for terrorist activities for the first and the desireto have a nuclear weapon for the latter.

“Tell a lie, repeated many times, it becomes true”. There are other version ofa “lie can take off like a chicken, but it can not fly." Can not claim to which of these sayings is more correct, but what lies can bring a lot of trouble - no doubt. The only thing that puts everything in its place this time,it is severely punished for the evil committed by the lie, because to pay for everything, so the world works, but time can not return to this lie ruined lives and destinies.

To get to the truth, to find sources of international terrorism, to understand its causes, which, without adoubt, there must be operated only by facts, discard bias and with great careto generalize, terms and labels, and sometimes, and insults to a people orreligious denomination.
First of all, we need to understand the terminology, which had grown terrorism.Terrorism - is all that is connected with terrorism. The history of war shows that terror is an integral part of military strategy. Especially, itdemonstrated the Second World War, in which, in order to intimidate and suppress the enemy morale, the two warring sides used out terror directed mainly against unprotected civilians. At the same time, to achieve maximum effect, that is, as many victims, special emphasis on stealth and surprise. Remember how the Germans bombed Minsk and Coventry, the Allies Dresden and Leipzig. Alas, the U.S. atomic bomb brought a sudden death in the early morning hours of civilians in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were intended for them. Surpriseand treachery are the first element in the success of any military enterprise,which in this case is different from the terror produced by a suicide bomber inthe subway, plane or bus, except that the size and number of victims. The same principle of total terror strategy was laid out in the Cold War, when all the major cities is a target for nuclear war heads of intercontinental missiles. We understand and respect the guerrillas, but the methods of guerrilla war fare are all familiar with this ambush, sudden attack and escape, the attack finally. In view of the enormous difference in the armament and technical equipment, men can not resist the regular army inopen battle. The strength of the guerrillas usually higher moral motivation, in comparison with the occupiers. Support of the people (in fact, it is the guerrillas people) and exceptional willingness to sacrifice that completely absent from the invaders, leading to a long, exhausting struggle, in which the aggressor is ultimately defeated.

This brings us to an important point about terminology. Remember the King George Hotel, exploded in the era of the British Mandate. British death toll there to it was a terrorist attack,p roduced by Jewish terrorists (or, if you prefer, the guerrillas). That is one and the same fact under mining the hotel has two very different moral interpretations. If a Russian, put bomb in the path of German train, ahero-partisan, the Afghans and Chechens defeated the Russian convoy called dushmanov, Mujahideen bandits, in a word terrorists. It should be noted that after September 11 Chechens, whom the media usually called militants hungadditional label. From now on, the Kremlin version, they are declared international terrorists in order to find sympathy and understanding from the stricken America. Most interestingly, this is actually what happened. Bush is asimpleton, who had to spawn a lot of political mistakes, get hooked KGB officer Putin, giving them an opportunity without regard to the West and to fearlessly continue the practice of "soaking in the toilet" at the state level.Gangster slang Russian president is consistent with the action of the Russianarmy in Chechnya. Moreover, with the acquiescence of the Bush, Putin emasculated and almost wiped out all the democratic achievements of Yeltsinera. Had tragedy in New York during the Russian intervention in Afghanistan, and the Afghan guerrillas would certainly international terrorists. The Kremlinis at the origin legends of Islamic invasion and strongly supports it, because a considerable part of it to the end of the collapsed empire in habited by peoples professing Islam.
Two hundred years before the Afghancompany outside Russia invaded the Caucasus. Note, not mountaineers descended from the mountains, and the Russian came to him and not with bread and salt. Sword and fire Russian mountaineers conquered, as the archive documents the eloquent message of the king's general AP Yermolov Alexander - in 1819 during the war in the Caucasus: I did march in the mountains, using the general terrorand flight, and destroyed several villages, all the bread in the fields and notone person in your path, so cleared the enemy. "There same: was ordered to exterminate the village, and by the way, ruining beautiful village of 800 houses, called Ulu Aya. Hence, with such haste fled residents that left several nursing children. BUSTED needed as a proud monument of punishment and none of the people had never pokorstvovavshegosya , to the edification of all the nations, on which some useful examples of terror imposed restraint "(Notes AP Ermolov while driving Georgia).
There is no need to comment on this"hero" of the Russian troops, I will mention only two centuries ago that the situation is not much different from punitive action that holds the Russian military in Chechnya today. In essence, this den of terrorists international scale is outside the Kremlin. Terror is when the Russian tanks crushed the people in Budapest, Prague and Riga, terror is when sapper shovels soldiers killed women in Tbilisi, terror, when the Russian is deprived of life, millions of Afghans, terror, is when heavy artelleriya aviation and leveled to the ground and Bamut Samashki, with orders to violence came from the samepeople in the Kremlin, which include a former Communist and KGB officer Putin. But with such a fighter c terror, humanist and specialist soak in the toilet,but as it turned out unexpectedly, and circumcision, and cooperates President Bush to combat international terrorism. Particularly striking for flag rantlawlessness proposal of the Public Prosecutor of Russia to punish relatives of Chechen fighters - a kind of Russian version of the Sicilian vendetta or stateterrorism with a "human face".
Moscow is well aware that as longas there are people and ineradicable longing for freedom, so defiant people ofthe Caucasus deported three times and twice under the communists, despite thefact that the father of Communism, Karl Marx as an example for the fight forthe freedom of the peoples of the Caucasus.
Independence, which proclaimedChechen people through democratic reforms in Russia, turned to him out terrorfrom the Russian side, which shows the ruins of Grozny, reminiscent ofStalingrad, and the ashes, completely wiped out in the bombing Bamut andSamashki, no different from the destroyed Coventry . Hundreds of thousands ofdead, contiguous strip, after which all disappear, they are capable of bearingarms, military bullying type of Colonel Budanov, here is the price for thelittle people for wanting to be free. To silence the voice of truth, Kremlinauthorities do not stop even in the accomplishment attack outside Russia(assassination Zandarbieva).<o:p></o
Evil can only cause harm. The warunleashed by Russia, turned to her string of terrorist attacks by Chechens,Nord-Ost "and Beslan. Way, the events associated with the Nord-Ost",a landmark that opened the real face of President Putin, for whom freedom ofspeech is as was an obstacle in the fight against terrorism, that is to say inthe strangulation of its own citizens. "Nord-Ost" can be taken as thedate of reference or landmark announcement Putin's all-out war with publicityand turn back to totalitarianism. Anyhow - Empire democracy contraindicated!The massacre of the Russian authorities over his disagreeable people(Politkovskaya, Litvinenko) method is quite appropriate terrorist exemplifies the very evil that lurks behind the high walls of the Kremlin. The revival of totalitarianismin Russia again lead to the recent past, the East-West confrontation. Thiscowboy Bush not understand.<o:p></o
Next on terminology, say, may havebeen a Afghans, like Russian, declare a holy war (jihad), at a time whenRussian limited 'contingent, fulfilling their internationalist duty "andusing the most modern weapons, attempted to make their home in the regularcotton appendage of the Russian Empire. Russian soldier-internationalist (orsoldier on international affairs, which is the same), sowed death anddestruction left behind eight million dead Afghans, and in their eyes was noneother than the most, which is not on there, an international terrorist, and iftake account of religion, it is also a Christian, similar to Islam. Let me askyou then, who on whom nashestvoval? Election forgetfulness Putin's intention tosave the Empire from collapse, and even restore the old boundaries, that's themain reason why the West intimidation international terrorism, which is due toshort-term considerations awarded another epithet - Islamic.

A very important argument, denouncedthe Kremlin lies about global threat of Islamic extremism is Russia'sassistance in the implementation of Iran's nuclear program, which has onesingle goal - the creation of the atomic bomb. In the presence of vast naturalenergy resources in the form of oil and gas to spend money, in general, a poorcountry to build a nuclear reactor, supposedly for an alternative form ofenergy, is devoid of expediency and against this background that all theassurances of Tehran and Moscow, of a purely peaceful uses Reactor lookridiculous. It is noteworthy that Moscow has always respectful to totalitarianregimes, whether fascist, communist, or to a new kind of religious guise. Inthe face of the Islamic Republic of Iran last colonial empire found itself aworthy political ally, who is by nature rabid enemy of democracy. Kremlinpoliticians 'concerns' invasion of Islam, does not bother the opposite effect,contributing to the attainment of Iranian obscurantist terrible weapons. Thereis no apparent at first glance, a paradox. The fact that Russia and Iran sharecommon geopolitical interests and, then, in the rapprochement with Iran, theKremlin sees an adequate response to the expansion of NATO to the countriesthat have been in the recent past, the western colonies of the Soviet empire.That is why Tehran has remained silent on the genocide conducted against fellowRussian Chechnya. This again reveals the lie of World Islamic conspiracy. Transferinto the hands of religious fanatics of Tehran's nuclear technology, that'swhat actually constitutes a threat to peace, not the liberation struggle of thepeoples of the Caucasus.

Terrorism in Russia is the result ofthe colonial war in the Caucasus and for international it can be taken only ifwe consider that the war is between the Russian people and the Chechen peopleand no more. Moscow hangs on Chechen freedom fighters label internationalterrorists to confuse public opinion with the Jesuit order, first, to turn theminto criminals, led, some mythical foreign terrorist organization by the World Islamic conspiracy, second, to present part of their common enemy, dangerous both for Russia and for the United States, and third, to find sympathy, understanding and support for the protection of Western civilization from the barbarians.
But let me ask you, but what about11? There is certainly the work of international terrorists. Yes, but notfaceless international terrorists, and specifically, the same Arabs who, inresponse to Israel's self-guided missiles fired from F-16, use at leastaccurate weapon - a weapon of desperation, blowing them selves among the Jews incrowded streets of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, in buses and restaurants. Weapons of despair was also used by the Japanese in World War II against the Americanfleet in the Pacific. Kamikaze pilots were sent planes packed with explosives in to the aircraft carriers that are not inferior to their size skyscrapers ofNew York, America, and be better, nothing would deter the temptation to sendkamikaze aircraft bomb a skyscraper, anticipating, so on September 11. Happenlike that moralists would be hard to argue against such an action on the partof Japan, especially after the terrible tragedies of Hiroshima and Nagasaki,the tragedy that there is still no definitive status. Then interested parties today, seeing the roots of terrorism in Islam, nothing would be left asShintoism ranked as bad religion. Weakness, but the greatest motivation are thecause of the soldiers bombers (kamikaze suicide bombers), and in this case,religion is not the cause of bringing a sacrifice.
President Bush, having the opportunity at anytime to lower the curtain a bloody spectacle, stood by overseas dramas, where the blood is flowing not sham, as in, his usual, Hollywood blockbusters, and most did not eat the real thing. Due to these historical circumstances, for the past half-century of the Palestinian people under occupation, and the other side in the form of refugees swept the neighboring countries, and if the Chechens in Russia are formally by its citizens, the Palestinians, the so-called controlled areas (read occupied) are not. They did nothing. The only right that is granted to them, and that only a special,carefully selected categories, it is with the permission of the authorities to leave the reservation for the heavy work for starvation wages. I do not presumeto predict what happened if the victorious countries occupied by Germany and Japan, have driven the German and Japanese to a state in which there are the Palestinians and the Chechens.

Alik Bahshi
07-01-2013, 09:06 AM
continued: Chronic Middle East Arab-Israeli conflict isthe generator of terrorism, both inside Israel and for its aisles. Startingwith the Palestinians killing Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics, the struggle between Arabs and Jews waged around the world, and the suffering and neutral states. That explodes the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires, the hotel in Istanbul, the aircraft with the hostages captured with no end in sight. Israel intelligence across borders, and through acts of terrorism are dealing Palestinian terrorists. Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, who signed thepeace agreement with the Palestinians, was killed in a suicide Jew. This demonstrateshow deeply painful Israeli society in a pathological desire to see thePalestinians free. For twenty years, Israel violated Lebanese sovereignty,while fighting with the Palestinians, which, by analogy with the Chechens canbe called bandits and terrorists, but the essence is the bandits are fighting for the freedom of their homeland. They want the occupiers with draw their troops and this is the main condition for ending the war. Everyone has long been clear that the keysolution to the Palestinian issue is at the White House in Washington, but as president, Bush moved away from the desire to deal with this problem. Bush blithely thought that America, being belligerent ally of Israel, is in complete safety, and made a mistake. The war took ally Israel crossed the ocean. The American President in time did not care of the lightning rod and the storm, long gathered over America, erupted on September 11. But instead to carefullybegin to address the Arab-Israeli conflict, Bush comes up with a pill in theform of long-playing "road map" and was up to the war in Iraq with the following political mistake. As a result, the theater of war in the Middle East is expanding. If the Americans quite easily given the victory over thedictator of Baghdad, now that the situation in Iraq is beginning to grow intothe people's resistance to the Islamic world conspiracy legionnaires can beeasily counted among the Iraqi terrorists. Bush naively believes that democracy can be pinned on a bayonet Marines and present as a gift to the people who do not understand its value. It's like what to bring to the house of a Jewish believer as a delicacy roast pig.
The only viable option for savingmankind from war, generating terror, it is a political resolution ofinternational conflicts in accordance with the norms of morality andconscience, equally understood by all religions. That interested parties,through whose fault and blossomed terrorism, intimidate the world community tothe war of civilizations, have called for a new crusade, trying to stir uphatred on ethnic and religious grounds, a danger to the World. To get rid ofthis ailment today, such as terrorism, it would be necessary to treat thedisease, not the symptoms. Washington's inexplicable passivity and unwillingness to really address the Palestinian issue, which is over half a century bleedsand metastasizes like a cancer, spreading through the world, condemns not only the American people, but other people can not help related to this problem, inperpetual fear and concerns. Seeds of Evil, which the Russian planted inAfghanistan, have sprouted in the form of a religious movement Talliban fromwhich especially hurt the Afghan people, but what happened in Afghanistan is asign of warning to the world and want to believe that a reasonable person,would not go on about the lies on international terrorism, will not allow dark forces to open a Pandora's box, and prevent the world from disaster.

Voted4Reagan
07-01-2013, 09:12 AM
It's your turn in our debate Alik...

I await your reply to my opening statement.

Marcus Aurelius
07-01-2013, 11:21 AM
It's your turn in our debate Alik...

I await your reply to my opening statement.

Shhhh... can't you see he's too busy wasting Jim's bandwidth with his diatribes? He'll come and get his ass whipped when he's good and ready.

Marcus Aurelius
07-01-2013, 11:37 AM
Islam, along with Christianity,Buddhism and Judaism, is one of the major religions, and to blame Islam, and with it a quarter of the world population, of aiding international terrorismor, even more, because of its appearance, at least, unwise.

The vast majority of the terrorist acts in the world today are committed by Muslims. Facts are facts, dumb ass.

Alik Bahshi
07-01-2013, 11:41 AM
It's your turn in our debate Alik...

I await your reply to my opening statement.

Where is the debate? There, I answered your question, but here the theme of terrorism. However, all interconnected, and if you need to justify some thought, and this may also be due to bumps.

aboutime
07-01-2013, 01:07 PM
Shhhh... can't you see he's too busy wasting Jim's bandwidth with his diatribes? He'll come and get his ass whipped when he's good and ready.


Marcus. Be careful. I get scolded for saying such things here. Then reminded to allow members to offer their opinions...as long as I remain a good little boy, keep quiet, and just allow things to take place without comments.

Go figure.

Drummond
07-01-2013, 02:50 PM
Stating the bleedin' obvious ... there's a considerable difference between the quality of the english used in these overly-long monologues and Alik's own, mercifully short, replies.

I know that Aboutime has already tracked one of these to a source in Wikipedia.

Alik, this is a discussion / debating site. Why not use it in the way it's chiefly set up to be used ? State a view ... preferably in a few hundred words (if you must) or less, but not reams upon reams of text - please !

I don't know about anyone else, but I fight an urge to switch off when I see so much to read to. Granted .. some of my posts are lengthy, but I don't think they equal yours. Alik, and I do at least offer debating points in mine, which are proactive.

Offer us a real debate, engage in one, and that'd be great.

In the meantime, I'll offer you a - perhaps over-simple ? - reaction.

Regardless of who it is who commits acts of terror, unless those committing it are completely deranged, they know that such acts are WRONG, and run counter to human decency .. in fact, they're far from human acts at all !!

So I suggest that long-winded discussions on the worth of terrorism, its nature, what causes you attribute to it, etc etc ... are little better than just blowing smoke. FACT, Malik .. the world would be a substantially happier and safer place were terrorism to be shunned worldwide as anything 'worthwhile'.

And note Marcus's post. He is correct. You want to find the chief instigators in the world today of terrorism, you need look no further than Islamists.

I suspect that you'd want to evade that truth. But, it IS the truth. You should face it, and admit it, so far as I'm concerned.

The world needs not only a War on Terror, but one that'll slacken for nobody and nothing. That this chiefly would mean that Muslims get it in the neck, is their doing .. TOUGH.

Any debate offered in answer to my post, Malik ? Feel free to engage .....

Marcus Aurelius
07-01-2013, 02:59 PM
Stating the bleedin' obvious ... there's a considerable difference between the quality of the english used in these overly-long monologues and Alik's own, mercifully short, replies.

I know that Aboutime has already tracked one of these to a source in Wikipedia.

Alik, this is a discussion / debating site. Why not use it in the way it's chiefly set up to be used ? State a view ... preferably in a few hundred words (if you must) or less, but not reams upon reams of text - please !

I don't know about anyone else, but I fight an urge to switch off when I see so much to read to. Granted .. some of my posts are lengthy, but I don't think they equal yours. Alik, and I do at least offer debating points in mine, which are proactive.

Offer us a real debate, engage in one, and that'd be great.

In the meantime, I'll offer you a - perhaps over-simple ? - reaction.

Regardless of who it is who commits acts of terror, unless those committing it are completely deranged, they know that such acts are WRONG, and run counter to human decency .. in fact, they're far from human acts at all !!

So I suggest that long-winded discussions on the worth of terrorism, its nature, what causes you attribute to it, etc etc ... are little better than just blowing smoke. FACT, Malik .. the world would be a substantially happier and safer place were terrorism to be shunned worldwide as anything 'worthwhile'.

And note Marcus's post. He is correct. You want to find the chief instigators in the world today of terrorism, you need look no further than Islamists.

I suspect that you'd want to evade that truth. But, it IS the truth. You should face it, and admit it, so far as I'm concerned.

The world needs not only a War on Terror, but one that'll slacken for nobody and nothing. That this chiefly would mean that Muslims get it in the neck, is their doing .. TOUGH.

Any debate offered in answer to my post, Malik ? Feel free to engage .....

Alik will now whine that since you only comment on the length of his (or her) post, that it MUST be because you don't like the subject or have something to hide.

Drummond
07-01-2013, 04:09 PM
Alik will now whine that since you only comment on the length of his (or her) post, that it MUST be because you don't like the subject or have something to hide.

Well, it's his privilege to if he must.

But if he thinks I've 'something to hide' ... whatever that could ever be ? ... he could always try debating the point, or any others of his choosing .... could be interesting ....

tailfins
07-01-2013, 04:21 PM
Please post in the proper format if you want me to read your posts. A cut-and-paste monkey cannot have much to offer. You could replaced by code. All one needs to do is scan web content with the right keywords and automate the posting process. Do you want to function as something more than a BOT?

Gaffer
07-02-2013, 08:29 AM
I don't read his posts because they are too long. I can't comprehend them. Given as English is not his first language and that he often misspells words or they are run together I have a hard time understanding what he has to say. So I end up skipping the posts. Paragraphs, spell checker and sentence structure are your friends. Google translator, not so much. This is not meant as an attack on the poster but as a constructive criticism. If you want people to read what you have to say. Make it legible and easy to read.

Alik Bahshi
07-06-2013, 04:46 AM
I don't read his posts because they are too long. I can't comprehend them. Given as English is not his first language and that he often misspells words or they are run together I have a hard time understanding what he has to say. So I end up skipping the posts. Paragraphs, spell checker and sentence structure are your friends. Google translator, not so much. This is not meant as an attack on the poster but as a constructive criticism. If you want people to read what you have to say. Make it legible and easy to read.

Worth to write about it. I'm like, do not read your topics, but did not declare it. Such is your reaction to my explained by the fact that you do not nravetsya the topic itself, and not, as it is written, and this is more likely.

Voted4Reagan
07-06-2013, 06:53 AM
Worth to write about it. I'm like, do not read your topics, but did not declare it. Such is your reaction to my explained by the fact that you do not nravetsya the topic itself, and not, as it is written, and this is more likely.

Ok.... this one is totally unreadable...

and it killed my Babel-Fish!

Gaffer
07-06-2013, 08:37 AM
worth to write about it. I'm like, do not read your topics, but did not declare it. Such is your reaction to my explained by the fact that you do not nravetsya the topic itself, and not, as it is written, and this is more likely.

huh!

Voted4Reagan
07-06-2013, 08:49 AM
huh!http://papodehomem.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/laptopexplodindo1.jpg

Alik Bahshi
07-06-2013, 09:29 AM
http://papodehomem.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/laptopexplodindo1.jpg

That's what happens when copying tons of material from Wikipedia and YouTub.

Voted4Reagan
07-06-2013, 09:35 AM
That's what happens when copying tons of material from Wikipedia and YouTub.

It's from reading your butchery of the English Language.

Marcus Aurelius
07-06-2013, 11:06 AM
http://www.debatepolicy.com/images/debate_policy/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by alik bahshi http://www.debatepolicy.com/images/debate_policy/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?p=650572#post650572)

worth to write about it. I'm like, do not read your topics, but did not declare it. Such is your reaction to my explained by the fact that you do not nravetsya the topic itself, and not, as it is written, and this is more likely.





it's like he's writing in Klingon.

Voted4Reagan
07-06-2013, 01:15 PM
it's like he's writing in Klingon.

A klingon with no honor.....

Fascinating.....

aboutime
07-06-2013, 02:09 PM
Live Short, and Fail???? Muslim style??? 5207

jafar00
07-06-2013, 03:48 PM
It's from reading your butchery of the English Language.

I'd like to see you try and post on a foreign language forum. Give him a break.

Voted4Reagan
07-06-2013, 03:53 PM
I'd like to see you try and post on a foreign language forum. Give him a break.

Seeing as this is a US Based Board and I have no intention of posting on a board where I am not fluent in the main language..

I really could care less what you'd like to see...

THE GUY IS A SPAMMER ANYWAY

Robert A Whit
07-06-2013, 04:03 PM
http://www.debatepolicy.com/images/debate_policy/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by alik bahshi http://www.debatepolicy.com/images/debate_policy/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?p=650572#post650572)
worth to write about it. I'm like, do not read your topics, but did not declare it. Such is your reaction to my explained by the fact that you do not nravetsya the topic itself, and not, as it is written, and this is more likely.




huh!

English is not his language.

Do you want him to post in his language and you can reply to him in his language?

aboutime
07-06-2013, 04:10 PM
I'd like to see you try and post on a foreign language forum. Give him a break.


Sounds like a wonderful idea jafar. You should take advantage of your own suggestion, and take all of your false claims with you.

Voted4Reagan
07-06-2013, 04:17 PM
http://www.debatepolicy.com/images/debate_policy/misc/quote_icon.png originally posted by alik bahshi http://www.debatepolicy.com/images/debate_policy/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?p=650572#post650572)
worth to write about it. I'm like, do not read your topics, but did not declare it. Such is your reaction to my explained by the fact that you do not nravetsya the topic itself, and not, as it is written, and this is more likely.





english is not his language.

Do you want him to post in his language and you can reply to him in his language?[/color]

#1... learn how to use the quote feature you fucking dumbass.

#2 ... you really are giving alik bahshi the full monica lewinsky treatment aren't you?... Where's his cigar?

dumbass

Robert A Whit
07-06-2013, 04:17 PM
continued: Chronic Middle East Arab-Israeli conflict isthe generator of terrorism, both inside Israel and for its aisles. Startingwith the Palestinians killing Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics, the struggle between Arabs and Jews waged around the world, and the suffering and neutral states. That explodes the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires, the hotel in Istanbul, the aircraft with the hostages captured with no end in sight. Israel intelligence across borders, and through acts of terrorism are dealing Palestinian terrorists. Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, who signed thepeace agreement with the Palestinians, was killed in a suicide Jew. This demonstrateshow deeply painful Israeli society in a pathological desire to see thePalestinians free. For twenty years, Israel violated Lebanese sovereignty,while fighting with the Palestinians, which, by analogy with the Chechens canbe called bandits and terrorists, but the essence is the bandits are fighting for the freedom of their homeland. They want the occupiers with draw their troops and this is the main condition for ending the war. Everyone has long been clear that the keysolution to the Palestinian issue is at the White House in Washington, but as president, Bush moved away from the desire to deal with this problem. Bush blithely thought that America, being belligerent ally of Israel, is in complete safety, and made a mistake. The war took ally Israel crossed the ocean. The American President in time did not care of the lightning rod and the storm, long gathered over America, erupted on September 11. But instead to carefullybegin to address the Arab-Israeli conflict, Bush comes up with a pill in theform of long-playing "road map" and was up to the war in Iraq with the following political mistake. As a result, the theater of war in the Middle East is expanding. If the Americans quite easily given the victory over thedictator of Baghdad, now that the situation in Iraq is beginning to grow intothe people's resistance to the Islamic world conspiracy legionnaires can beeasily counted among the Iraqi terrorists. Bush naively believes that democracy can be pinned on a bayonet Marines and present as a gift to the people who do not understand its value. It's like what to bring to the house of a Jewish believer as a delicacy roast pig.
The only viable option for savingmankind from war, generating terror, it is a political resolution ofinternational conflicts in accordance with the norms of morality andconscience, equally understood by all religions. That interested parties,through whose fault and blossomed terrorism, intimidate the world community tothe war of civilizations, have called for a new crusade, trying to stir uphatred on ethnic and religious grounds, a danger to the World. To get rid ofthis ailment today, such as terrorism, it would be necessary to treat thedisease, not the symptoms. Washington's inexplicable passivity and unwillingness to really address the Palestinian issue, which is over half a century bleedsand metastasizes like a cancer, spreading through the world, condemns not only the American people, but other people can not help related to this problem, inperpetual fear and concerns. Seeds of Evil, which the Russian planted inAfghanistan, have sprouted in the form of a religious movement Talliban fromwhich especially hurt the Afghan people, but what happened in Afghanistan is asign of warning to the world and want to believe that a reasonable person,would not go on about the lies on international terrorism, will not allow dark forces to open a Pandora's box, and prevent the world from disaster.

Have you stated your country of origin?

What is your purpose of these posts?

And given your posts run together, you are making it hard on posters to know what you are talking about.

But from what I am able to read, you give Obama credit when he has not earned credit and you bash Bush though he spent time trying to fix the problems.

I remind you, as a citizen of the USA, it is not our job to correct problems caused by Palestinians or Israel.

aboutime
07-06-2013, 04:21 PM
#1... learn how to use the quote feature you fucking dumbass.

#2 ... you really are giving alik bahshi the full monica lewinsky treatment aren't you?... Where's his cigar?

dumbass




5208 Funny, funny stuff V4R. Thanks. I needed that!

Robert A Whit
07-06-2013, 05:08 PM
5208 Funny, funny stuff V4R. Thanks. I needed that!

We have long noticed how much you love filth and whining by Reagan.

Robert A Whit
07-06-2013, 05:10 PM
Reagan

You must control that temper and stop those temper tantrums. Work on you and just don't act as if you are so superior to the rest of us.

aboutime
07-06-2013, 06:08 PM
We have long noticed how much you love filth and whining by Reagan.


Right you are Robert. Guess that's why we all LOVE you so much too!

Marcus Aurelius
07-06-2013, 09:41 PM
A klingon with no honor.....

Fascinating.....


You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Voted4Reagan again.

;)

Marcus Aurelius
07-06-2013, 09:46 PM
#1... learn how to use the quote feature you fucking dumbass.

#2 ... you really are giving alik bahshi the full monica lewinsky treatment aren't you?... Where's his cigar?

dumbass


That's twice you used my catch phrase...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nP9gSfXgir0

Alik Bahshi
07-07-2013, 01:03 AM
Have you stated your country of origin?

What is your purpose of these posts?

And given your posts run together, you are making it hard on posters to know what you are talking about.

But from what I am able to read, you give Obama credit when he has not earned credit and you bash Bush though he spent time trying to fix the problems.

I remind you, as a citizen of the USA, it is not our job to correct problems caused by Palestinians or Israel.

We are on the same planet and have common problems regardless of who is in which country. In New York September 11 tragedy suffered by thousands of innocent people. Why did this happen? Where are the roots of today's terrorism? Only by knowing the true cause of terrorism can be done with it. It is necessary to treat the disease, not its appearance. That's what this article. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my opinion on the issue.
You say: «I remind you, as a citizen of the USA, it is not our job to correct problems caused by Palestinians or Israel.» But tell it not to me but to the U.S. government and Congress.

Voted4Reagan
07-07-2013, 07:08 AM
We are on the same planet and have common problems regardless of who is in which country. In New York September 11 tragedy suffered by thousands of innocent people. Why did this happen? Where are the roots of today's terrorism? Only by knowing the true cause of terrorism can be done with it. It is necessary to treat the disease, not its appearance. That's what this article. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my opinion on the issue.
You say: «I remind you, as a citizen of the USA, it is not our job to correct problems caused by Palestinians or Israel.» But tell it not to me but to the U.S. government and Congress.

Maybe it's not the United States that causes all the problems...

Maybe it's the 50+ Muslim dominated countries that are responsible for 90+ % of all worldwide terror attacks.

Maybe it's the Production of Heroin in Afghanistan Fueling the drug market (I thought Allah fobid Drugs use in any form?)

Maybe it's Islamists launching rockets into Israeli towns and Cities...
.

Maybe it's the lack of education that creates these terrorists.

Once again you try to pin blame on the United States... when in reality it's the Muslim countries that cause most of the trouble in the world today.

Robert A Whit
07-07-2013, 12:22 PM
http://www.debatepolicy.com/images/debate_policy/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Alik Bahshi http://www.debatepolicy.com/images/debate_policy/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?p=650711#post650711)
We are on the same planet and have common problems regardless of who is in which country. In New York September 11 tragedy suffered by thousands of innocent people. Why did this happen? Where are the roots of today's terrorism? Only by knowing the true cause of terrorism can be done with it. It is necessary to treat the disease, not its appearance. That's what this article. Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my opinion on the issue.
You say: «I remind you, as a citizen of the USA, it is not our job to correct problems caused by Palestinians or Israel.» But tell it not to me but to the U.S. government and Congress.


Maybe it's not the United States that causes all the problems...

Maybe it's the 50+ Muslim dominated countries that are responsible for 90+ % of all worldwide terror attacks.

Maybe it's the Production of Heroin in Afghanistan Fueling the drug market (I thought Allah fobid Drugs use in any form?)

Maybe it's Islamists launching rockets into Israeli towns and Cities...
.

Maybe it's the lack of education that creates these terrorists.

Once again you try to pin blame on the United States... when in reality it's the Muslim countries that cause most of the trouble in the world today.


Very good points Reagan.

Alik, I know some believe the problem belongs to the USA, but in my opinion we should walk or run away from this issue. Bush was correct in the beginning.

You like Obama? How many countries have gone up in flames since he took office? How many are still in flames?

Alik Bahshi
07-07-2013, 01:26 PM
Alik, I know some believe the problem belongs to the USA, but in my opinion we should walk or run away from this issue. Bush was correct in the beginning.

You like Obama? How many countries have gone up in flames since he took office? How many are still in flames?

Let's agree to be more specific. You say Muslim countries, but they are not the same, and above all by ethnicity. Terrorism today is associated with the Arab countries. You enjoin the blame Obama, awakening in several Arab countries - Arab Spring. You can justify such a discovery? For example, I explained my views on what is Bush's fault that occurred on September 11. I think Bush is the worst choice of the American people and I have an article about Bush, and later I will introduce it.

Robert A Whit
07-07-2013, 01:56 PM
Let's agree to be more specific. You say Muslim countries, but they are not the same, and above all by ethnicity. Terrorism today is associated with the Arab countries. You enjoin the blame Obama, awakening in several Arab countries - Arab Spring. You can justify such a discovery? For example, I explained my views on what is Bush's fault that occurred on September 11. I think Bush is the worst choice of the American people and I have an article about Bush, and later I will introduce it.

I said what?

Sorry, I do not believe I said Muslim countries. It does seem that Arabs are, to say the least, behind the terrorism we in the USA have endured.

It is not so much that I blame Obama as I believe that the man is not competent. He had no skills nor training to be president.

Bush had a lot of training and was a fine president. Bush did not cause 911 to happen.

Alik Bahshi
07-08-2013, 02:38 PM
I said what?

Sorry, I do not believe I said Muslim countries. It does seem that Arabs are, to say the least, behind the terrorism we in the USA have endured.

It is not so much that I blame Obama as I believe that the man is not competent. He had no skills nor training to be president.

Bush had a lot of training and was a fine president. Bush did not cause 911 to happen.

Very interesting logic, Obama is guilty in the "Arab spring" in other countries, and Bush is not guilty of what happened on Sept. 11 in his home country.

Voted4Reagan
07-08-2013, 03:45 PM
Very interesting logic, Obama is guilty in the "Arab spring" in other countries, and Bush is not guilty of what happened on Sept. 11 in his home country.

Bush was in Office for just 9 months. He had nothing to do with instigating anything with Al-Qaeda.

Clinton had attacked Al-Qaeda targets numerous times.

Fact is, you really dont know anything youre talking about.

Tell me what Bush did prior to 9-11-2001 to provoke the attacks...

Tell us all Alik... we're waiting

Alik Bahshi
10-17-2023, 04:26 PM
Bush was in Office for just 9 months. He had nothing to do with instigating anything with Al-Qaeda.

Clinton had attacked Al-Qaeda targets numerous times.

Fact is, you really dont know anything youre talking about.

Tell me what Bush did prior to 9-11-2001 to provoke the attacks...

Tell us all Alik... we're waiting





Neither before Bush nor after Bush did anyone do anything to solve the Palestinian issue. And today, once again, people are dying, and no one knows when this will end.

Kathianne
10-17-2023, 04:28 PM
Bush was in Office for just 9 months. He had nothing to do with instigating anything with Al-Qaeda.


Clinton had attacked Al-Qaeda targets numerous times.


Fact is, you really dont know anything you are talking about.


Tell me what Bush did prior to 9-11-2001 to provoke the attacks...


Tell us all Alik... we're waiting


Neither before Bush nor after Bush did anyone do anything to solve the Palestinian issue. And today, once again, people are dying, and no one knows when this will end.

Hopefully the Palestinians will be happy living in Iran.

Alik Bahshi
10-17-2023, 04:38 PM
Hopefully the Palestinians will be happy living in Iran.

You won’t find any kind of thoughts in the media.

Gunny
10-17-2023, 04:38 PM
Neither before Bush nor after Bush did anyone do anything to solve the Palestinian issue. And today, once again, people are dying, and no one knows when this will end.FUll

Fact is, only the Palestinians can solve the issue. An article in one of Kathianne's threads I read earlier this afternoon points straight to the problem. They have chosen to oppose/destroy Israel over having a country.

Alik Bahshi
10-17-2023, 04:55 PM
FUll

Fact is, only the Palestinians can solve the issue. An article in one of Kathianne's threads I read earlier this afternoon points straight to the problem. They have chosen to oppose/destroy Israel over having a country.


Maybe tell us how the Palestinians can have a country. They will definitely be interested in your offer. m.

Kathianne for example, suggested moving them to Iran.

Kathianne
10-17-2023, 06:52 PM
You won’t find any kind of thoughts in the media.

Oh yes you will. Already suggested. Iran, Qatar, Syria

Alik Bahshi
10-18-2023, 01:01 AM
Hopefully the Palestinians will be happy living in Iran.

What a wonderful thought! Create Greater Israel. Move more Arabs from Egypt to Iran, because Jews as a people came from Egypt, and at that time Arabs did not live in Egypt. For example, the Armenians want to create Greater Armenia, why shouldn’t the Jews follow the Armenians.

SassyLady
10-18-2023, 10:48 AM
What a wonderful thought! Create Greater Israel. Move more Arabs from Egypt to Iran, because Jews as a people came from Egypt, and at that time Arabs did not live in Egypt. For example, the Armenians want to create Greater Armenia, why shouldn’t the Jews follow the Armenians.
Why don't you and everyone just leave Israel alone. Quit threatening them. Let them live in peace.

Gunny
10-18-2023, 06:56 PM
Maybe tell us how the Palestinians can have a country. They will definitely be interested in your offer. m.

Kathianne for example, suggested moving them to Iran.


What a wonderful thought! Create Greater Israel. Move more Arabs from Egypt to Iran, because Jews as a people came from Egypt, and at that time Arabs did not live in Egypt. For example, the Armenians want to create Greater Armenia, why shouldn’t the Jews follow the Armenians.

Maybe you can tell us why "Palestine" should have something it never had? There has never been a country named Palestine, nor the Arabs who call themselves such any different than any other Arab people.

I CAN tell you who was Egyptian though ... Yassir Arafat, the terrorist that started all this crap calling himself Palestinian.

Armenia, on the other hand, did exist until Turks decided to murder who they couldn't drive off. Azerbaijan looks like a chip off the old block.



.

Alik Bahshi
10-20-2023, 11:29 PM
Why don't you and everyone just leave Israel alone. Quit threatening them. Let them live in peace.

Sorry, but did I threaten Israel? Where and when?