Christie Shows Why It's Not Too Early to Talk 2016

[Marcus Aurelius]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/08/21/christie_shows_why_its_not_too_early_to_talk_2016_ 119662.html


Case in point: New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, who last week marched into the RNC’s summer meeting in Boston and did more to clarify the parameters by which the 2016 primaries will be fought than other likely candidates’ visits to Iowa or New Hampshire have accomplished.

Planting his flag firmly on the side of the Republican establishment, and in stark opposition to the Tea Party-aligned wing of the party, Christie derided (http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/08/15/christie-raps-potential-2016-rivals-at-republican-confab/) those would-be opponents (without naming names) who, he said, acted as if the GOP were a “debating society.”
“I’m in this business to win,” Christie said, according to Politico (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/08/chris-christie-im-in-this-business-to-win-95591.html). “For our ideas to matter, we have to win because, if we don’t win, we don’t govern. And if we don’t govern, all we do is shout into the wind. So I am going to do anything I need to do to win.”
Christie’s words fell on more than a few receptive ears in Boston.




It wasn’t so long ago that the governor’s 2016 hopes seemed to have dimmed significantly, as Republicans from both wings of the party scorned his embrace of President Obama in the aftermath of super-storm Sandy -- just days before the 2012 election.

But the situation has changed rather quickly, as it so often does in presidential politics, and Christie once again looks to be setting himself up as a strong contender.
For one thing, Christie appears poised to win a resounding November victory in his bid for a second term in a deep-blue state. He’s also set to hit the fundraising trail (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/18/nyregion/christies-re-election-engine-gets-in-gear-for-a-bigger-race.html?pagewanted=all) early next year as the head of the Republican Governors Association. In that role, he will have free rein to make the implicit case nationwide that he is the Republican Party’s best hope for retaking the White House.



Christie’s allies have been buoyed by the mostly positive response he received in Boston and the change in some fellow Republicans’ attitudes after his full-throated backing of Obama’s storm response and discernible friction with the Romney campaign caused many to wonder whether the outspoken New Jersey governor was a team player.
“The reaction’s been really good -- that’s an understatement,” a Christie confidant, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told RCP. “More people realize now how incredible the impact of the storm was on the state, and they respect how he handled it. Not everybody is happy about it, but people generally understand that ultimately the Electoral College wasn’t that close, and it’s not what tipped the balance.”





After the governor’s expected re-election in November, the microscope under which both sides of the intra-GOP divide watch Christie will only magnify his every move even more.

[Gaffer]

If all he wants to do is govern he can just stay governor of NJ.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Let the fat bastard talk. A sold out bastard like him even if picked to be the Republican nominee for President can not win. He lost at least 20% of the conservative vote when he firmly locked his fat lips on Obama's ass and helped Obama win. A lot of us will never vote for a turncoat bastard like that. Obama bought the fat bastard plain and simple. ffkk him.... -Tyr

[Thunderknuckles]

Let the fat bastard talk. A sold out bastard like him even if picked to be the Republican nominee for President can not win. He lost at least 20% of the conservative vote when he firmly locked his fat lips on Obama's ass and helped Obama win. A lot of us will never vote for a turncoat bastard like that. Obama bought the fat bastard plain and simple. ffkk him.... -Tyr
:upyours:Christie in 2016!!

:beer:

[Marcus Aurelius]

Let the fat bastard talk. A sold out bastard like him even if picked to be the Republican nominee for President can not win. He lost at least 20% of the conservative vote when he firmly locked his fat lips on Obama's ass and helped Obama win. A lot of us will never vote for a turncoat bastard like that. Obama bought the fat bastard plain and simple. ffkk him.... -Tyr

link?

[Marcus Aurelius]

http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-chris-christie-2016-approval-rating-independents-primary-2013-5


We've Never Seen Anything Like Chris Christie's Favorability RatingsOverall, 40 percent of Democrats, 41 percent of Republicans, and 45 percent of Independents view Christie favorably. He is the only potential 2016 candidate who earns favorable views across party lines, something that PPP never found in the 2012 presidential race, according to the firm's director Tom Jensen.


http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/05/christies_net_approval_rating.html

Only six governors in the U.S. are more popular than Chris Christie, according to a report by the New York Times (http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/28/popular-governors-and-prospects-for-2016/?smid=tw-fivethirtyeight&seid=auto) that looks ahead to the 2016 presidential race. The report calculates net job approval, the percentage of residents who approve of a governor minus the percentage that disapprove. It is based on the four most recent job-approval polls since the beginning of 2012.
The six governors ahead of Christie are Matt Mead of Wyoming, Mike Beebe of Arkansas, Gary Herbert of Utah, Jack Dalrymple of North Dakota, Mary Fallin of Oklahoma, and Peter Shumlin of Vermont.
The report notes that popular Republican governors in swing states and those that lean Democratic will not only find it easier to be re-elected but can also make strong presidential candidates.




"A Democrat has carried New Jersey in every presidential election since 1992, yet Mr. Christie, a Republican, has maintained a net job approval above 40 percent," reporter Micah Cohen writes in the report. "Mr. Christie's job approval rating increased after Hurricane Sandy and has fallen only slightly since."


http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/why-no-democrat-wants-to-run-against-chris-christie-in-new-jersey-20130129


By most measures, New Jersey Governor Chris Christie looks unstoppable: A Republican with a sky-high approval rating in a blue state, star power and high-profile liberal-leaning backers, like Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg (http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/chris-christie-wins-over-mark-zuckerberg-20130124). And that’s left Democrats in an awkward position come November 2013.

Christie’s approval rating is up to 74 percent, according to Quinnipiac, which also found 68 percent of voters say Christie deserves to be re-elected. Christie has $2.14 million in his campaign fund, while Buono’s got $215,000. News of the Zuckerberg fundraiser prompted the Democratic Governors Association to post a petition on its site, calling for Zuckerberg to cancel the fundraiser. By the following day, it had been taken down (http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/democratic-governors-association-appears-to-delete-zuckerberg-petition-86721.html), while Zuckerberg hasn’t budged on his position.
To be sure, Christie is a Republican in a state where Democrats outnumber Republicans by some 700,000 voters (http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/11/obama_wins_new_jerseys_14_elec.html) and President Obama won by 18 points. But Christie has deftly cast himself as a no-nonsense governor who lately has been willing to buck his national party.



I find it odd that people have whined for years that politicians have been putting party above people, like Obama does... yet when they get a governor who puts the people above his party, they whine that he's a traitor and a kiss ass.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I find it odd that people have whined for years that politicians have been putting party above people, like Obama does... yet when they get a governor who puts the people above his party, they whine that he's a traitor and a kiss ass. haha, he put his fat ass and his career before the people. What he did was for personal gain and his career. A man can not do such and help Obama like that without paying a price. I wouldn't vote for the man if my life depended on it.. I never abandon my principles. Christie will find that out if he gets the nod because HE DAMN SURE WILL NOT WIN.

[Marcus Aurelius]

http://www.debatepolicy.com/images/debate_policy/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by Marcus Aurelius http://www.debatepolicy.com/images/debate_policy/buttons/viewpost-right.png (http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?p=659370#post659370)


I find it odd that people have whined for years that politicians have been putting party above people, like Obama does... yet when they get a governor who puts the people above his party, they whine that he's a traitor and a kiss ass.



haha, he put his fat ass and his career before the people. What he did was for personal gain and his career. A man can not do such and help Obama like that without paying a price. I wouldn't vote for the man if my life depended on it.. I never abandon my principles. Christie will find that out if he gets the nod because HE DAMN SURE WILL NOT WIN.

The people of New Jersey would appear to... disagree with you.

[fj1200]

The people of New Jersey would appear to... disagree with you.

If he were to "accidentally" slip that "BO hates Whitey;" that would have him back in the cons good graces and that right quick.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

If he were to "accidentally" slip that "BO hates Whitey;" that would have him back in the cons good graces and that right quick.
I do not doubt that amigo but Jersey ain't the nation. How many electoral votes does Jersey have? -Tyr

[fj1200]

I do not doubt that amigo but Jersey ain't the nation. How many electoral votes does Jersey have? -Tyr

No state is large enough to win singlehandedly.

[Gaffer]

Christie doesn't even make my top ten list of possibles.

[tailfins]

Let the fat bastard talk. A sold out bastard like him even if picked to be the Republican nominee for President can not win. He lost at least 20% of the conservative vote when he firmly locked his fat lips on Obama's ass and helped Obama win. A lot of us will never vote for a turncoat bastard like that. Obama bought the fat bastard plain and simple. ffkk him.... -Tyr

Christie is as good as your going to get in NJ. He's not a viable national candidate. Antagonizing him out of the GOP is a bad idea, especially if you want New Jersey to prosper. Christie is "right where he needs to be."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9JjUH5NofI

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Christie is as good as your going to get in NJ. He's not a viable national candidate. Antagonizing him out of the GOP is a bad idea, especially if you want New Jersey to prosper. Christie is "right where he needs to be."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9JjUH5NofI The fat bastard doesn't seem to know that!!!!!--Tyr

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Christie doesn't even make my top ten list of possibles. He wouldn't even make it into my top 500... Such a turncoat bastard deserves worse than not getting elected or reelected IMHO. -Tyr

[Marcus Aurelius]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/07/08/is-christie-the-gops-best-2016-candidate/

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has been racking up endorsements from Democratic officeholders. His staff sends around this clip from a speech receiving the endorsement of one of these Democrats, Point Pleasant Borough Mayor William Schroeder. Aside from the reference to the Jersey shore, this easily could be part (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=yNLGpbnXtaU)of a 2016 presidential stump speech:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNLGpbnXtaU

You can see why Christie, especially after an expected huge win in November, would be such a powerful candidate. He doesn’t look or sound like other candidates, he appeals to ordinary Americans’ desire for elected officials to “do something,” he has distance from D.C. but a record of executive accomplishment, and he’s got a really effective delivery (mixing high-mindedness with a can-you-believe-these-jokers attitude that voters can relate to).
Christie won’t say whether he will run in 2016 until he’s cleared his reelection hurdle. But candidly, he’d be nuts not to. The notion that a small cadre of uber-conservative pundits (his most vocal foes) have a better sense of American voters than Christie is laughable. Moreover, the pattern in GOP presidential primaries is rather predictable — the far right candidates flame out and/or eat each other alive while the best of the mainstream candidates makes it through. There is no reason Christie can’t be that candidate.



Again, PEOPLE before PARTY.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/07/08/is-christie-the-gops-best-2016-candidate/


Again, PEOPLE before PARTY. Let it be noted that I was a big Christie fan before the Obama incident. If I am being too hard, too unforgiving, then maybe I'll rethink his running. Of course that'll be if the others are not strong or have issues too. Right now I am waiting for the unwrapped sweet present to appear. A long shot I know, but hey, hope springs eternal in a tired old tormented mind. :laugh: My previous post was me letting my venom spew forth. Always was a very bad thing when I was within reaching distance of the source of my anger. On the comp talking about politicians that does not apply except by way of keyed in words. . ;) We have to remember Hillary would likely just continue Obama 's filthy crap. Anybody would be a vast improvement over that.. -Tyr