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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-21-2013, 10:14 AM
http://news.yahoo.com/egyptian-military-crackdown-unravels-muslim-brotherhood-132621034.html Dislike



http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/nws/p/csm_logo_115.jpg (http://www.csmonitor.com/) <cite class="byline vcard top-line">Kristen Chick <abbr>1 hour ago</abbr> </cite>The Egyptian military's crackdown on the Muslim Brotherhood (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Muslim+Brotherhood), particularly the arrest of top figures in recent days, has left the organization rudderless and facing one of the greatest challenges of its 80-year history.



The hierarchical body that normally excels at communication, discipline, and mobilization is in disarray after the arrests of top leaders and hundreds of mid-level and grassroots members (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2013/0820/Has-Egypt-brought-back-Mubarak-s-police-state). Many of those not arrested have stopped using their mobile phones and are in hiding to avoid the police since the brutal crackdown Aug. 14 on the Brotherhood-led protests in support of ousted president Mohamed Morsi (http://www.csmonitor.com/tags/topic/Mohamed+Morsi).
Leaders who normally meet to make decisions together can no longer easily do so, and the breakdown in communication means difficulty getting their directives to the grassroots. Despite an announcement that the group would hold daily protests (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2013/0816/As-Cairo-reels-Egypt-military-s-opponents-vow-daily-protests) after a large turnout in the streets on Friday, the Brotherhood-led alliance against the military canceled some of Sunday's protests due to concerns about bloodshed amid low turnout and confusion. It has not staged any large protests in the capital since – a sign that it is currently unable or unwilling to continue its street action against the military.
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The organization is in “a state of unbalance,” says Khalil Al Anani, an expert on the Brotherhood at Durham University in the UK. “Where they should go from here, how to react to the state violence –” these are questions the organization is struggling to address. "It's a very tough time for the Brotherhood, and the consequences of this would be very serious in the future, in terms of [the potential] for the movement to fracture and to what extent the grassroots would remain loyal to the leadership in terms of using violence or reacting violently.” --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lets hope that its even worse than the article indicates for the terrorist organization. -Tyr

Gaffer
08-21-2013, 06:42 PM
This is good news. would be nice if we could do the same here with their counterparts. Egypt isn't ready for democracy until they can get rid of the theocrates. (that's not a word, but it works.)

jafar00
08-21-2013, 09:47 PM
This is good news. would be nice if we could do the same here with their counterparts. Egypt isn't ready for democracy until they can get rid of the theocrates. (that's not a word, but it works.)

The word you are looking for is "Theocrats". Egypt never had a theocratic government BTW.

Gaffer
08-21-2013, 10:11 PM
The word you are looking for is "Theocrats". Egypt never had a theocratic government BTW.

I beg to differ. Morsi was establishing just that, which is why he was forced out. Apparently there are still a lot of sensible people in egypt. The bros are being dismantled and jailed. So that's very good. And the word is that mubarak is being released from prison. Not sure if that's a good idea, but he does have a lot of money stashed. They may be looking to make a deal.

Marcus Aurelius
08-21-2013, 10:12 PM
The word you are looking for is "Theocrats". Egypt never had a theocratic government BTW.

The depth of your stupidity knows no bounds.

http://www.eternalegypt.org/EternalEgyptWebsiteWeb/HomeServlet?ee_website_action_key=action.display.t opic.details&language_id=1&trait_item_id=10000212


From the beginning of the Pharaonic period, Ancient Egypt was run as a theocracy. A theocracy is a form of government in which the government claims to rule on behalf of a god or deity. A powerful king would promote the belief that he had the support of the gods, so no one would try to remove him and risk the displeasure of the gods. From this grew the idea of divine kingship, that the king was the divine representative of a god on earth.


Dumb ass.

jafar00
08-22-2013, 01:57 AM
I beg to differ. Morsi was establishing just that, which is why he was forced out. Apparently there are still a lot of sensible people in egypt. The bros are being dismantled and jailed. So that's very good. And the word is that mubarak is being released from prison. Not sure if that's a good idea, but he does have a lot of money stashed. They may be looking to make a deal.

I beg to differ too. The Salafis (Nour party) wanted to establish Wahhabi style law with a hard line theocracy like Saudi Arabia but Morsi took a more moderate line.

Gaffer
08-22-2013, 07:15 AM
I beg to differ too. The Salafis (Nour party) wanted to establish Wahhabi style law with a hard line theocracy like Saudi Arabia but Morsi took a more moderate line.

He took a moderate line only temporarily. He knew it had to be done in increments.

Drummond
08-22-2013, 01:42 PM
He took a moderate line only temporarily. He knew it had to be done in increments.

Quite.

Here's an informative description ..

http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/view/whos-who-in-the-muslim-brotherhood


Since taking office, Morsi has moved quickly to consolidate the organization’s power, appointing fellow Muslim Brothers to head key ministries and cracking down on media criticism of the group. His boldest moves came on August 12, when he sacked the generals who posed the greatest threat to his authority, promoted new generals who now answer to him, and issued a constitutional declaration that gave him full executive, legislative, and constitution-writing powers. Although Morsi and the Brotherhood may yet face challenges from non-Islamists, Salafists, former regime elements, and, perhaps, the judiciary, the group’s unmatched mobilizing capabilities and control over key government institutions will likely make it Egypt’s most consequential political actor for many years to come.

Bear in mind this dates back almost a year. Even so, it defies suggestions of 'moderation'.

Considering also that Hamas is a Muslim Brotherhood offshoot ...

http://mg.co.za/article/2013-06-24-ex-al-qaeda-allies-ready-to-fight-for-morsi-in-luxor


When President Mohamed Morsi made Adel al-Khayat, a hardline Islamist, the governor of Luxor, it seemed his latest folly to many in this city and across Egypt, who depend on tourists already scared off by unrest since the revolution.

Yet nominating a member of al-Gamaa al-Islamiya, remembered for a 1997 massacre of visitors in Luxor that some call "Egypt's 9/11", showed the growing importance to the beleaguered Morsi and his Muslim Brotherhood of a group whose leadership includes at least one unrepentant former associate of Osama bin Laden.


Al-Khayat, cleric Refai Taha, and other leaders of al-Gamaa and its parliamentary wing in Luxor told Reuters they renounced violence because Islamist rule had now been achieved, through elections – but they would take up arms again to defend Morsi and were committed eventually to establishing full Islamic law.


"There is freedom now, so violence is not necessary," Taha (58) said in an interview last week at a hotel on the Nile. "The revolution changed the situation in Egypt in ways we wanted."


But like other senior figures in al-Gamaa he warned that anyone trying to force Morsi out – referring to the military that oppressed the Islamists for decades, or liberal opponents planning mass protests next Sunday – would be met with force.