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Marcus Aurelius
08-26-2013, 04:56 PM
Jahil... you continually question the authority of any Imam the board mentions, if said Imam doesn't hold to YOUR specific vision of Islam and the Quran.

WHERE, exactly, did you study to become an Imam? Which Islamic university? Are you fluent in Arabic, as required to be an Imam? Can you recite the entire Quran line for line, without fail, as an Imam is supposed to be able to do?

I ask, because if you are not an Imam, are not fluent in Arabic (speaking and reading/writing), did not attend one of the many Islamic universities, then according to most Islamic scholars, Imams, etc... you have no authority to question other Imams authority.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-26-2013, 06:19 PM
Jahil... you continually question the authority of any Imam the board mentions, if said Imam doesn't hold to YOUR specific vision of Islam and the Quran.

WHERE, exactly, did you study to become an Imam? Which Islamic university? Are you fluent in Arabic, as required to be an Imam? Can you recite the entire Quran line for line, without fail, as an Imam is supposed to be able to do?

I ask, because if you are not an Imam, are not fluent in Arabic (speaking and reading/writing), did not attend one of the many Islamic universities, then according to most Islamic scholars, Imams, etc... you have no authority to question other Imams authority. IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME WELL JAFAR ADMITTED TO BEING A MEMBER IN A FRINGE MINORITY ISLAMIC GROUP. However he speaks here as if he is an Imam , you are correct on that. --Tyr

aboutime
08-26-2013, 07:11 PM
Sounds like ANYONE can become an Imam like jafar

IF......You study the inside of Garbage cans long enough.

jafar00
08-27-2013, 01:41 AM
Sounds like ANYONE can become an Imam like jafar

IF......You study the inside of Garbage cans long enough.

Ask Drummond. He is convinced that people like Anjem Choudary are fully qualified spokespeople for Islam.

Marcus Aurelius
08-27-2013, 05:41 AM
Ask Drummond. He is convinced that people like Anjem Choudary are fully qualified spokespeople for Islam.

answer the question, dumb ass.

aboutime
08-27-2013, 12:38 PM
answer the question, dumb ass.



Marcus. Bear in mind. The view jafar has, from inside the can is pretty bad.5424

Marcus Aurelius
08-27-2013, 01:58 PM
Ask Drummond. He is convinced that people like Anjem Choudary are fully qualified spokespeople for Islam.

read it and weep, dumb ass...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1596985283/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_3?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=0312358377&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0MEJQ31HDKGRGJWZ07G2


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In The Truth about Muhammad, you'll learn
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Marcus Aurelius
08-28-2013, 03:54 PM
Ask Drummond. He is convinced that people like Anjem Choudary are fully qualified spokespeople for Islam.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLEpZm957jk

jafar00
08-29-2013, 10:41 PM
answer the question, dumb ass.

I am not an Imam, so why are you even asking?

Marcus Aurelius
08-30-2013, 06:52 AM
I am not an Imam, so why are you even asking?

So by what authority do you tell everyone who is and is not Islamic... what is and is not Islamic... who is and is not an Imam?

Your own authority, it seems. Which means exactly... nothing.

aboutime
08-30-2013, 10:41 AM
I am not an Imam, so why are you even asking?

Pull the lid back over your head jafar. 5434