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Arbo
09-03-2013, 08:16 AM
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_RACIAL_SLURS_TRIAL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-09-03-03-20-00

This sort of thing is long overdue.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-03-2013, 08:51 AM
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_RACIAL_SLURS_TRIAL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-09-03-03-20-00

This sort of thing is long overdue. What's long overdue ? Defining the definition or banning the word in completely? Or was your contention that its best to just levy a punishment by awarding damages in a lawsuit filed against being called that N-word? I mean your statement that its long overdue without your giving any further edification leaves much to be desired IMHO. -Tyr

fj1200
09-03-2013, 09:06 AM
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_RACIAL_SLURS_TRIAL?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-09-03-03-20-00

This sort of thing is long overdue.

Might have been long overdue but it seems that they've validated its dual meanings.


NEW YORK (AP) -- A federal jury has rejected the argument that use of the N-word among blacks can be a culturally acceptable term of love and endearment, deciding its use in the workplace is hostile and discriminatory no matter what.

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"Well, if calling a person a nigger and subjecting them to a hostile work environment is part of STRIVE's tough love, then STRIVE needs to be reminded that this type of behavior is illegal and cannot be tolerated," she said.

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't a "hostile work environment" based on some sort of test of discrimination? Be it race based, sex based, etc. If both parties are black then on what basis is their discrimination?


But 38-year-old Brandi Johnson told jurors that being black didn't make it any less hurtful to be the target of what her attorney called Carmona's "four-minute nigger tirade" about inappropriate workplace attire and unprofessional behavior.

"Hurtful" words I wouldn't have thought would be the basis of a lawsuit absent discrimination.

fj1200
09-03-2013, 09:09 AM
Hmm, maybe not:


The United States Supreme Court stated in Oncale v. Sundowner Offshore Services,[4] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_work_environment#cite_note-4) that Title VII is "not a general civility code." Thus, federal law does not prohibit simple teasing, offhand comments, or isolated incidents that are not extremely serious. Rather, the conduct must be so objectively offensive as to alter the conditions of the individual's employment. The conditions of employment are altered only if the harassment culminates in a tangible employment action or are sufficiently severe or pervasive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_work_environment

Arbo
09-03-2013, 09:20 AM
Might have been long overdue but it seems that they've validated its dual meanings.

Seems quite the opposite. The defense argued there were many meanings, but even in the defense saying that the man that used it was raised in a manner in which such 'tough love' was a good thing, they are admitting the language is used in a negative manner.

What it comes down to is a word is a word, no matter who says it. Period.

fj1200
09-03-2013, 10:12 AM
Seems quite the opposite. The defense argued there were many meanings, but even in the defense saying that the man that used it was raised in a manner in which such 'tough love' was a good thing, they are admitting the language is used in a negative manner.

What it comes down to is a word is a word, no matter who says it. Period.

Perhaps but I don't expect any long term changes based on this other than yet another expansion of employee litigation.

Arbo
09-03-2013, 12:05 PM
Perhaps but I don't expect any long term changes based on this other than yet another expansion of employee litigation.

You are unfortunately probably very correct. Why some continue to wallow in the gutter, and support/vote for those that do nothing but pass legislation to keep them there, is beyond me.

aboutime
09-03-2013, 12:08 PM
Let them use the 'N' word as much as they want. It helps us to separate the Ignorant from everyone else with a brain, and intelligence.