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Arbo
09-28-2013, 09:51 PM
http://kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/

Calculator to find out. Crazy rates with insanely high deductibles is what I saw. For the lowest level plan.

fj1200
09-28-2013, 10:05 PM
I've been saying it all along; ACA sucks! But just an awesome way to make a large portion of the American people dependent on government subsidization; way to go government.

:criesincorner:

truthmatters
09-29-2013, 08:49 AM
the right fears it for what it will become. Soon the right wing lies about it will haunt your party forever

Arbo
09-29-2013, 08:59 AM
the right fears it for what it will become. Soon the right wing lies about it will haunt your party forever

So I set some partisan babbling, but no actual point or facts. Do you have any of those? Because in the first post is a link to a FACTUAL calculator on what the costs (for the lowest level plan) will be. This uses data provided by HHS and the different states.

If you happen to find a magic unicorn that can show us how this FACTUAL data is incorrect, feel free to give us a link.

truthmatters
09-29-2013, 09:06 AM
then why did you buy the lies the OP said about the numbers instead of trying the calculator?

truthmatters
09-29-2013, 09:13 AM
the affordable care act was written by the Heritage foundation and backed by robmoney. why do you hate it now?

Arbo
09-29-2013, 09:14 AM
then why did you buy the lies the OP said about the numbers instead of trying the calculator?

Why did you not read the first post? When I said 'was what I saw', that means I USED the calculator. Again, do you have any FACTS to disprove the high numbers the calculator shows, or just more BS?

truthmatters
09-29-2013, 09:15 AM
you have right wing blinders on

Arbo
09-29-2013, 09:17 AM
you have right wing blinders on

You are a moron that has no FACTS to back anything you say, so you stick to the party line talking points.

truthmatters
09-29-2013, 09:19 AM
why are you lying about the cost of the affordable care act?

Arbo
09-29-2013, 09:21 AM
why are you lying about the cost of the affordable care act?

Again, you have ZERO, so you shift to the 'you are lying' nonsense. If you have ANYTHING to DISPROVE or REFUTE the numbers the calculator comes up with, GO FOR IT. Otherwise you just continue to dig a whole with your stupid partisan BS.

truthmatters
09-29-2013, 09:23 AM
all comprehensive studies show it reduces rates.why are you lying about it?

truthmatters
09-29-2013, 09:25 AM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22566430

truthmatters
09-29-2013, 09:25 AM
https://www.healthcare.gov/how-does-the-affordable-care-act-affect-me/

Arbo
09-29-2013, 09:30 AM
all comprehensive studies show it reduces rates.why are you lying about it?

No, they do not. Just about every 'government' study shows that rates will go up. And the calculator that is based on federal and state data about what the rates will be, proves those studies to be true. So do you plan to ever back up a single thing you say?

Here's a bit more information for you to read, I look forward to you attempting to use logic, reason and FACTS to disprove it.

truthmatters
09-29-2013, 09:31 AM
your lying

Arbo
09-29-2013, 09:32 AM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22566430


https://www.healthcare.gov/how-does-the-affordable-care-act-affect-me/

You really don't know what a 'fact' is do you? Nor do you understand what those links say, do you?

Arbo
09-29-2013, 09:36 AM
your lying

No you dumbass, you are just an ignorant fuck. I *WORK* in the industry. I have read most of the f'in bill. I *KNOW* how bad it is for the industry and for the citizens of the nation. If you have a bone of integrity in you, you will DISPROVE the numbers posted, or DISPROVE the numbers the calculator gives, as they are both based on data from the Government Accountability Office, Health and Human Services, and data from individual states.

But anyone reading this exchange knows you will be unable to disprove a damn thing, as you are a partisan hack that just parrots what your party tells you to say, and is incapable of independent thought. In other words, just the kind of person a political party loves, but horrible for the nation.

fj1200
09-29-2013, 01:07 PM
the affordable care act was written by the Heritage foundation and backed by robmoney. why do you hate it now?

Link? And who loved it then?