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Little-Acorn
10-28-2013, 01:53 PM
And the hits just keep on coming.

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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/florida-womans-insurance-rate-increases-10x-under-obamacare_764837.html

Florida Woman's Insurance Rate Increases 10X Under Obamacare

8:44 AM, Oct 28, 2013
by DANIEL HALPER

One Florida woman is going from paying $54 a month to $591 under Obamacare, CBS reports:

"For many, their introduction to the Affordable Care Act has been negative: A broken website, and now cancellation notices from insurance companies, followed by sticker shock over higher prices for the new plans," says a CBS reporter. "It's directly at odds from repeated assurances from the president."

Obama is quoted as saying, "If you like your insurance plan, you will keep it. No one will be able to take that away from you."

"But people across the country are finding out they're losing their existing insurance plans under Obamacare," says the reporter. "In Florida, at least 300,000 people are losing coverage."

"When I got this bill, I was outraged," CBS quotes a 56-year-old Florida resident who got dropped from her health care plan.

Her new plan will be 10 times higher than what she's paying now, jumping from $54 a month to $591.

"What I have right now is what I'm happy with, and I just want to know why I can't keep what I have," says the woman. "Why do I have to be forced into something else?"

aboutime
10-28-2013, 02:11 PM
And the hits just keep on coming.

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http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/florida-womans-insurance-rate-increases-10x-under-obamacare_764837.html

Florida Woman's Insurance Rate Increases 10X Under Obamacare

8:44 AM, Oct 28, 2013
by DANIEL HALPER

One Florida woman is going from paying $54 a month to $591 under Obamacare, CBS reports:

"For many, their introduction to the Affordable Care Act has been negative: A broken website, and now cancellation notices from insurance companies, followed by sticker shock over higher prices for the new plans," says a CBS reporter. "It's directly at odds from repeated assurances from the president."

Obama is quoted as saying, "If you like your insurance plan, you will keep it. No one will be able to take that away from you."

"But people across the country are finding out they're losing their existing insurance plans under Obamacare," says the reporter. "In Florida, at least 300,000 people are losing coverage."

"When I got this bill, I was outraged," CBS quotes a 56-year-old Florida resident who got dropped from her health care plan.

Her new plan will be 10 times higher than what she's paying now, jumping from $54 a month to $591.

"What I have right now is what I'm happy with, and I just want to know why I can't keep what I have," says the woman. "Why do I have to be forced into something else?"


So...as Obama told the gullible, and easily led. "NOT ONE THIN DIME" was correct. But he failed to say it would cost MUCH MORE THAN JUST A SINGLE DIME.

jimnyc
10-28-2013, 02:56 PM
"Doesn't matter, bill already passed, stop being an obstructionist and pointing out the never ending problems and costs"

revelarts
10-28-2013, 03:08 PM
Ok my conspiracy senses are starting to tingle.
at least my "let no good crisis go to waste" senses.

I'm starting to wonder if the mess that's going on is a plan or at least could be used to get what they really wanted anyway.
Full blown gov't funded controlled health care.
with so many people left out in the cold without affordable coverage. I wouldn't be surprised if their new "solution" might be that.
and it's bad ol capitalism -and selfish republicans- that made health insurance so high so the guberment had to take it over.
hmmm mmm.
we'll FIX IT.

just a thought. nothing to back it up....
but a century of Problem Reaction Solution U.S. governing.
Doesn't matter who really caused the problem as long as the gov't "they" are looked to to "fix it".

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revelarts
10-28-2013, 04:07 PM
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red states rule
10-29-2013, 02:56 AM
Jay Carney got peeved having to address this issue

Not as peeved as the women who now has to pay 10 times more for a policy she does not want



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcQUcIGknHU

red states rule
10-30-2013, 02:31 AM
Obama still has some supporters in the liberal media willing to make excuses on his behalf and at the expense of the working middle class and seniors



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Gaffer
10-31-2013, 06:03 AM
Ok my conspiracy senses are starting to tingle.
at least my "let no good crisis go to waste" senses.

I'm starting to wonder if the mess that's going on is a plan or at least could be used to get what they really wanted anyway.
Full blown gov't funded controlled health care.
with so many people left out in the cold without affordable coverage. I wouldn't be surprised if their new "solution" might be that.
and it's bad ol capitalism -and selfish republicans- that made health insurance so high so the guberment had to take it over.
hmmm mmm.
we'll FIX IT.

just a thought. nothing to back it up....
but a century of Problem Reaction Solution U.S. governing.
Doesn't matter who really caused the problem as long as the gov't "they" are looked to to "fix it".

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Your Spidy Senses are correct on this one. It's all about forcing people into a single payer plan.

aboutime
10-31-2013, 05:13 PM
Obama still has some supporters in the liberal media willing to make excuses on his behalf and at the expense of the working middle class and seniors



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red states rule. Whenever I hear someone like that speak. I am reminded of the last words of Jesus on the cross..... "Father. Forgive them. For they KNOW NOT what they do!"

Arbo
10-31-2013, 05:37 PM
Old lady from Florida? Is she a (D)? Did she vote for Obama? If so… GOOD that her rates skyrocketed. Perhaps it might make her rethink things before she next votes for idiots.

SassyLady
10-31-2013, 11:31 PM
Old lady from Florida? Is she a (D)? Did she vote for Obama? If so… GOOD that her rates skyrocketed. Perhaps it might make her rethink things before she next votes for idiots.

Stereotype much?

Kathianne
10-31-2013, 11:40 PM
I think the administration is 'just that stupid.' I don't think this was a plan to move to a bigger government control plan, not in short term. No administration would 'conspire' to make itself look as incompetent as this one now does. Lowest approval of his presidency. Nope, this was sheer stupidity.

SassyLady
10-31-2013, 11:59 PM
I think the administration has always wanted single payer plan and screwing this up this bad will justify a "fix" in only one direction (can't go back) and that's to single payer. I agree that government is inept but don't discount long term goal of liberal progressive leftists in power right now.

revelarts
11-01-2013, 12:06 AM
I think the administration is 'just that stupid.' I don't think this was a plan to move to a bigger government control plan, not in short term. No administration would 'conspire' to make itself look as incompetent as this one now does. Lowest approval of his presidency. Nope, this was sheer stupidity.

But see that's the beauty of the plaannn K, Obama is laying down for the cause here see...
cough- well It's possible, I'm not as incredulous to what lengths some groups are willing to go to as i used to be.

But Well you may have a point, But the "let no crisis go to waste" cards could be played at this point to the same effect. They are trying their best to spin this so it's the Ins cos and the markets fault.

I suspect , if the trend keeps in this direction that, soon the lying words out of some democrats mouth will be like...

"...see how we tried to make the insurance plan work, but Big Biz and Big Ins lawyers and accountants wouldn't let us do it. They found every loophole in the law they could. Then they canceled millions of policies. that was never our plan. (even though we worked hand and hand with the Ins companies all the way) So now millions more are out of coverage and sadly out of full time work without health plans. We all made a mistake, the only thing to do now is to start single payer. That will cover everyone. "no one will be left out" everyone in the US will finally have the coverage that is their birth right as Americans... think of the children... "

Kathianne
11-01-2013, 01:05 AM
Time, history will tell, no doubt about it. I don't think even now, with all the pundits waying in, that FDR KNEW that Pearl Harbor was going to happen.

Doesn't mean that they didn't know that something might, but for the life of me I can't find a reason for FDR to want the US to be caught with a decimated Navy and air force to give credence for war.

red states rule
11-01-2013, 01:52 AM
While Obama and many of his backers are blaming the insurance companies for policies being cancelled - some in the loyal media are blaming the people who owned the polices. They are saying it was "cheap coverage"





On Wednesday's The Last Word on MSNBC, MSNBC.com executive editor Richard Wolffe joined host Lawrence O'Donnell in exonerating President Obama from blame for the recent wave of health insurance policy cancellations, with Wolffe going so far as to dismiss inexpensive insurance policies which presumably are focused on covering expensive, catastrophic health care as being "bad policies" not worthy of existence in spite of the fact that consumers were choosing to purchase them. Wolffe:

I mean, it's an astonishing idea that somehow these bad policies, and I covered the insurance industry for many years, insurance [companies] sell cheap policies because they never pay out on them. The prices are low because they never spend any money on them. It's pretty simple.

If you spend a lot of money on insurance, generally you should get something back. Not always, but generally. That's insurance. So when you get a cheap policy, and you get no benefits for it, what is it really worth?

Host O'Donnell removed blame from Obama as he posed:

And, Richard, it turns out that what the President was saying in his campaign for the presidency and in his campaign to pass the bill turns out to be true in the bill, that you can keep your plan, the plan that you had at the time he was saying this before the law was enacted. All of those plans, even substandard ones, were allowed to continue under this law. If they're not continuing, it's the insurance company that's deciding they're not continuing.

Wolffe began his response by mocking conservatives:

Right. Because he's not a socialist, Marxist, Muslim revolutionary, he's not actually telling the private sector you must keep these plans in place. You know, it is extraordinary watching people twist this around for political gain. But this is a bit like someone saying, "I'm going to sell you a $500 car, and then that pesky government says this car has to be road-worthy."


Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2013/10/31/msnbcs-wolffe-derides-cheap-insurance-what-it-really-worth#ixzz2jNGqRh71

fj1200
11-01-2013, 06:54 AM
I think the administration is 'just that stupid.' I don't think this was a plan to move to a bigger government control plan, not in short term. No administration would 'conspire' to make itself look as incompetent as this one now does. Lowest approval of his presidency. Nope, this was sheer stupidity.

Yup, I think they tried to come as close to single-payer as they could while still getting something passed. Add in all of the ridiculous machinations of passing the law and it's hard to toss it all in as purposeful failure. "Sheer stupidity" is also not an advertisement for increased government control in health care especially when muffing the online portion which to my mind should have been the easy part.

Arbo
11-01-2013, 08:22 AM
Stereotype much?

You can deflect or you can deal with the reality that she probably voted for Obama. Either way, that has nothing to do with the reality that those that voted for him should get hit the hardest by their bad choices.

red states rule
11-01-2013, 05:07 PM
http://media.townhall.com/Townhall/Car/b/sk110113dAPR20131101014517.jpg