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Pale Rider
06-16-2007, 05:50 AM
It's time to put these homo apologists in their place with some facts. I've heard enough "it's normal", and "it's not destructive" from the ignorant apologists.

Start reading... if you can hold your lunch down.....

The Statistics on Homosexuality and its Effects

Some statistics about the Homosexual lifestyle:

* One study reports 70% of homosexuals admitting to having sex only one time with over 50% of their partners (3)
* One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime
* Many homosexual sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting (7)
* Many homosexuals don't pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: "Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior" (16)
* Homosexuals got homosexuality removed from the list of mental illnesses in the early 70s by storming the annual American Psychiatric Association (APA) conference on successive years. "Guerrilla theater tactics and more straight-forward shouting matches characterized their presence" (2). Since homosexuality has been removed from the APA list of mental illnesses, so has pedophilia (except when the adult feels "subjective distress") (27)
* Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States (5). They make up only 1-2% of the population
* Homosexuals live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the "gay bowel syndrome" (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus (27)
* 73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization (13)
* 25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics (11)
* Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film "The Castro", one minute stands) (3). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to "cruisy areas" and have anonymous sex
* 78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs (20)
* Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, "Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities" (10)
* Captain William Riddle of the Los Angeles Police says, "30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals" (10)
* 50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals (10)
* Dr. Daniel Capron, a practicing psychiatrist, says, "Homosexuality by definition is not healthy and wholesome. The homosexual person, at best, will be unhappier and more unfulfilled than the sexually normal person" (10). For other psychiatrists who believe that homosexuality is wrong, please see National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality
* It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us(10)
* Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population
* Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8)
* 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8)
* 41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8)
* Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries (8)
* The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8)
* The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79 (8)
* Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident (8)
* 21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things(8)
* 50% of the calls to a hotline to report "queer bashing" involved domestic violence (i.e., homosexuals beating up other homosexuals) (18)
* About 50% of the women on death row are lesbians (12).

Homosexuals prey on children.

* 33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7)
* There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is "SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE." This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States
* Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19)
* 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9)
* Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: "The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality" (22)
* Because homosexuals can't reproduce naturally, they resort to recruiting children. Homosexuals can be heard chanting "TEN PERCENT IS NOT ENOUGH, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT" in their homosexual parades. A group called the "Lesbian Avengers" prides itself on trying to recruit young girls. They print "WE RECRUIT" on their literature. Some other homosexuals aren't as overt about this, but rather try to infiltrate society and get into positions where they will have access to the malleable minds of young children (e.g., the clergy, teachers, Boy Scout leaders, etc.) (8). See the DC Lesbian Avengers web page, and DC Lesbian Avengers Press Release, where they threaten to recruit little boys and girls. Also, see AFA Action Alert.

The homosexual agenda.

* The homosexual agenda includes desensitizing the public: "The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights.....To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion. Ideally, we would have straights register differences in sexual preferences the way they register different tastes for ice cream or sports games....At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full 'appreciation' or 'understanding' of homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to think that it is just another thing...then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won" (25)
* Part of the homosexual agenda is to get the public to affirm their filthy lifestyle, as one homosexual admitted in the October 1987 homosexual rally on Washington: "We are no longer seeking just a right to privacy and a protection from wrong. We also have a right -- as heterosexual Americans already have -- to see government and society affirm our lives" (27)
* Part of the homosexual agenda is to turn people from Christianity: "The teaching that only male-female sexual activity within the bounds and constraints of marriage is the only acceptable form should be reason enough for any homosexual to denounce the Christian religion" (1)
* Homosexuals knowingly lied (and still lie) about the 10% figure (i.e., homosexuals make up 10% of the population). As Tom Stoddard (formerly of the Lambda Legal Defense Fund) said, "We used that figure when most gay people were entirely hidden to try to create an impression of our numerousness" (17).

The true number of homosexuals.

* The Kinsey study of 1948, which homosexuals often cite to say that 10% of the population is homosexual, actually says that only 4% of the population is EXCLUSIVELY homosexual. This study involved a disproportionate number of people who had been in jail for sex crimes (hardly a random sample of the population). Kinsey also did perverse studies involving young boys and pedophiles. Information on Kinsey
* Current research shows that the true percentage of homosexuals is in the 1-2% range (15,23,26,28). Consider how small this number is when compared to most of the numbers above.

Homosexuals aren't discriminated against in employment, so why should they be a protected class?

* The average yearly income of a homosexual is $55,430.00 (most of which is disposable because no children to take care of!). The average of the general population is $32,144.00. The average of blacks is $12,166.00 (24)
* 59.6% of homosexuals are college graduates. 18.0% of the general population are college graduates (24). Too bad they aren't smart enough to listen to God. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" (Romans 1:22)
* 49.0% of homosexuals hold professional/managerial positions. 15.9% of the general population hold such positions (24). Where's the job discrimination?

Sexual Orientation

• A phrase that has come up recently in this earth is "sexual orientation." This is a phrase made up by homosexuals to try to make themselves look less filthy than they really are. The purpose of the phrase is to take the spotlight from what these perverts do, and put it on the notion that they are just poor, mistreated people, who simply are attracted to members of the same sex - as if they aren't engaging in activity forbidden by God Almighty. "Sexual orientation," as used today, has nothing to do with sexual activity (yeah, right), but only refers to who or what a particular person is attracted to. If you think that people of other "sexual orientations" are just fine, let's see what other "sexual orientations" you would necessarily have to accept as wholesome and pure. If you're not going to discriminate based on "sexual orientation", then you must not discriminate against any of the following. Bestiality, pedophile, necrophilia., exhibitionism, fetishism, frotteurism, masochism, sadism, transvestitism, voyeurism. If you discriminate against any of these, you're a hypocrite. These "sexual orientations" are generally known as "paraphilias", and are mental disorders - just like homosexuality used to be (29).

REFERENCES


(1) Advocate, 1985
(2) Bayer, R. Homosexuality and American Psychiatry
(3) Bell, A. and Weinberg, M. Homosexualities: a Study of Diversity Among Men and Women. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1978
(4) Cameron et. al. ISIS National Random Sexuality Survey. Nebraska Med. Journal, 1985, 70, pp. 292-299
(5) "Changes in Sexual Behavior and Incidence of Gonorrhea." Lancet, April 25, 1987
(6) Corey, L. and Holmes, K. "Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men." New England J. Med., 1980, pp. 435-38
(7) Family Research Institute, Lincoln, NE
(8) Fields, Dr. E. "Is Homosexual Activity Normal?" Marietta, GA
(9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275
(10) Kaifetz, J. "Homosexual Rights Are Concern for Some," Post-Tribune, 18 December 1992
(11) Kus, R. "Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay America." Medical Journal of Homosexuality, 1987, 14(2), p. 254
(12) Lesbian News, January 1994
(13) Lief, H. Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, 1977, pp. 110-11
(14) Manlight, G. et. al. "Chronic Immune Stimulation By Sperm Alloantigens." J. American Med. Assn., 1984, 251(2), pp. 237-438
(15) Morton-Hunt Study for Playboy (16) MsKusick, L. et. al. "AIDS and Sexual Behavior Reported By Gay Men in San Francisco." Am. J. Pub. Health, 1985, 75, pp. 493-96
(17) Newsweek, February 1993
(18) Newsweek, 4 October 1993
(19) Psychological Reports, 1986, 58, pp. 327-37
(20) Rueda, E. "The Homosexual Network." Old Greenwich, Conn., The Devin Adair Company, 1982, p. 53
(21) San Francisco AIDS Foundation, "Can We Talk." (22) San Francisco Sentinel, 27 March 1992
(23) Science Magazine, 18 July 1993, p. 322
(24) Statistical Abstract of the U.S., 1990
(25) "The Overhauling of Straight America." Guide Magazine. November, 1987
(26) United States Census Bureau (27) United States Congressional Record, June 29, 1989
(28) University of Chicago's Nation Research Corp
(29) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Fourth Edition, American Psychiatric Association, 1994.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1502263/posts

Guernicaa
06-16-2007, 09:44 AM
Just so you know, the majority of the "references" are all from about 1993 or earlier. So that would mean these sources are over 13 years old.
Therefore they have no credibility.

Would you trust a survey on how many teens admit to using drugs from 1969 in 1980????

Guernicaa
06-16-2007, 09:52 AM
The whole "anonymous sex" and bath house shit was where men use to have multiple partners because of the huge number of closeted people back then. Bathhouses are a very rare thing these days. Throughout the 90's the amount of people "coming out" dramatically increased...therefore there was no need to go to underground bath houses to find partners who were in the same situation that you were in.

And just so you know...there is so much fucking prostitution and anonymous sex in the heterosexual community that for them to try and make it seem like an activity that only gay people engage in is completely fucked up and bias. Your sources are way too old.

Hobbit
06-16-2007, 10:00 AM
The whole "anonymous sex" and bath house shit was where men use to have multiple partners because of the huge number of closeted people back then. Bathhouses are a very rare thing these days. Throughout the 90's the amount of people "coming out" dramatically increased...therefore there was no need to go to underground bath houses to find partners who were in the same situation that you were in.

And just so you know...there is so much fucking prostitution and anonymous sex in the heterosexual community that for them to try and make it seem like an activity that only gay people engage in is completely fucked up and bias. Your sources are way too old.

Last I checked, normal people were not having anonymous sex in the Hartsfield Airport bathrooms. That story is ongoing from this year.

No matter how much finger pointing at what heterosexual people do, the fact is that a hugely disproportionate number of gays do that kind of crap. A guy who goes out and meets women anonymously for sex in some dark corner once a weeks or so is an anomaly. A guy who does the same thing only with other guys isn't really out of the ordinary.

glockmail
06-16-2007, 11:01 AM
If you're not going to discriminate based on "sexual orientation", then you must not discriminate against any of the following. Bestiality, pedophile, necrophilia., exhibitionism, fetishism, frotteurism, masochism, sadism, transvestitism, voyeurism. If you discriminate against any of these, you're a hypocrite.

This is a good point.

82Marine89
06-16-2007, 11:09 AM
Since I have a sister who is a rugmuncher, I have a few questions to ask...

1. Why can she wear a gay pride t-shirt and be considered to be expressing herself, but when I wear a straight pride t-shirt I'm considered homophobic? Shouldn't she be called a heterophobe?

2. Why, since we share the same set of biological parents can she be considered a minority, but not me? Aren't we genetic equals?

3. How can sexual orientation make one a minority? Would a gay black man be more of a minority than a gay white man?

Just some thoughts of mine.

Pale Rider
06-16-2007, 01:19 PM
Since I have a sister who is a rugmuncher, I have a few questions to ask...

1. Why can she wear a gay pride t-shirt and be considered to be expressing herself, but when I wear a straight pride t-shirt I'm considered homophobic? Shouldn't she be called a heterophobe?

Part of the queer's agenda not mentioned in the article is shut people up. They've even went as far as to try and make laws against people speaking their mind against them. It's a double standard. A HUGE double standard. They can call you anything in the book, but DON'T YOU DARE UTTER ONE BAD THING AGAINST THEM!

That's why I fully enjoy exposing this sick, perverted, filthy sex game called homosexuality here. They CAN'T SHUT ME UP HERE! They have to be subjected to the TRUTH here. When it comes to faggots and their enablers/apologists, THIS is the NO SPIN ZONE!

Pale Rider
06-16-2007, 01:21 PM
Just so you know, the majority of the "references" are all from about 1993 or earlier. So that would mean these sources are over 13 years old.
Therefore they have no credibility.
HORSE - - - SHIT.

YOU... have no credibility. You and that pair of wigger faggots in your avatar.

avatar4321
06-16-2007, 02:07 PM
this really isnt that shocking.... seems pretty obvious to anyone who thinks about it.

Guernicaa
06-16-2007, 02:40 PM
HORSE - - - SHIT.

YOU... have no credibility. You and that pair of wigger faggots in your avatar.
lol yeah...I guess we can pretty much conclude that you are a fucking dumbass.

Again...Would you apply a survey of how many teenagers took drugs back in 1969 to 1980???

No, because times change. Therefore unless you have something from around 2001 to present time, you have nothing but old statistics.

82Marine89
06-16-2007, 03:34 PM
lol yeah...I guess we can pretty much conclude that you are a fucking dumbass.

Again...Would you apply a survey of how many teenagers took drugs back in 1969 to 1980???

No, because times change. Therefore unless you have something from around 2001 to present time, you have nothing but old statistics.

Thanks for the negative rep. Did I hit a nerve with your dumb ass? Am I not allowed to express my opinions or do I need to fall in lock step with your agenda?

5stringJeff
06-16-2007, 04:24 PM
Just so you know, the majority of the "references" are all from about 1993 or earlier. So that would mean these sources are over 13 years old.
Therefore they have no credibility.

Would you trust a survey on how many teens admit to using drugs from 1969 in 1980????

I suppose, then, that you have more recent statistics that refute the ones Pale Rider has posted??

gabosaurus
06-16-2007, 05:54 PM
Pale, you might also want to tell us the shocking truth about pedophilia and child molestation. From your insider's point of view.

Pale Rider
06-16-2007, 06:54 PM
Pale, you might also want to tell us the shocking truth about pedophilia and child molestation. From your insider's point of view.

You have nothing but sarcasm to counter with. Pretty much shows us all you're nothing but a vile shit bag. You must have very low self esteem.

gabosaurus
06-16-2007, 07:25 PM
I'm pleased to see that you don't deny it.

Said1
06-16-2007, 07:25 PM
The whole "anonymous sex" and bath house shit was where men use to have multiple partners because of the huge number of closeted people back then. Bathhouses are a very rare thing these days. Throughout the 90's the amount of people "coming out" dramatically increased...therefore there was no need to go to underground bath houses to find partners who were in the same situation that you were in.

There's one right around the corner from my house. They sell really cheap cigarettes.

82Marine89
06-16-2007, 10:46 PM
Part of the queer's agenda not mentioned in the article is shut people up. They've even went as far as to try and make laws against people speaking their mind against them. It's a double standard. A HUGE double standard. They can call you anything in the book, but DON'T YOU DARE UTTER ONE BAD THING AGAINST THEM!

That's why I fully enjoy exposing this sick, perverted, filthy sex game called homosexuality here. They CAN'T SHUT ME UP HERE! They have to be subjected to the TRUTH here. When it comes to faggots and their enablers/apologists, THIS is the NO SPIN ZONE!

It's amazing the way the media buried the Jesse Dirkhising story but promoted Matthew Sheppard.

For those who do not know, Jesse was a 13 y/o boy that was kidnapped and repeatedly raped by two homosexual men and then suffocated on his own underwear which had been stuffed in his mouth to silence him.

These men were not charged with a hate crime.

Missileman
06-16-2007, 10:53 PM
These men were not charged with a hate crime.

Why would they have been?

82Marine89
06-16-2007, 11:01 PM
Gay men attacking and raping a heterosexual? Is it not a hate crime if a heterosexual attacks a gay man? There is no difference.

Missileman
06-16-2007, 11:08 PM
Gay men attacking and raping a heterosexual? Is it not a hate crime if a heterosexual attacks a gay man? There is no difference.

You're kidding, right? Sounds like you need to read up on hate crime legislation and then come back to continue this line of discussion.

5stringJeff
06-16-2007, 11:13 PM
It's amazing the way the media buried the Jesse Dirkhising story but promoted Matthew Sheppard.

For those who do not know, Jesse was a 13 y/o boy that was kidnapped and repeatedly raped by two homosexual men and then suffocated on his own underwear which had been stuffed in his mouth to silence him.

These men were not charged with a hate crime.

Hopefully they were hanged. :mad:

82Marine89
06-16-2007, 11:16 PM
You're kidding, right? Sounds like you need to read up on hate crime legislation and then come back to continue this line of discussion.

All crimes are hate crimes. Just because you're gay doesn't make the crime any worse. By selectively enforcing a harsher punishment for equal crimes just because the victim is a homosexual defeats the words of our forefathers, "All men are created equal."

Missileman
06-16-2007, 11:20 PM
Hopefully they were hanged. :mad:

Agreed, but what they did doesn't meet the definition of a hate crime.

Missileman
06-16-2007, 11:28 PM
All crimes are hate crimes. Just because you're gay doesn't make the crime any worse. By selectively enforcing a harsher punishment for equal crimes just because the victim is a homosexual defeats the words of our forefathers, "All men are created equal."

Firstly, I think "hate crime" legislation is worthless. Just enforce the penalty for whatever crime was committed. The legislation enforces harsher penalties for motive, not the crime committed. I am very much against the varied sentences doled out for the same crime...should be one size fits all.

Abbey Marie
06-16-2007, 11:59 PM
Firstly, I think "hate crime" legislation is worthless. Just enforce the penalty for whatever crime was committed. The legislation enforces harsher penalties for motive, not the crime committed. I am very much against the varied sentences doled out for the same crime...should be one size fits all.

I agree.

5stringJeff
06-17-2007, 12:08 AM
Firstly, I think "hate crime" legislation is worthless. Just enforce the penalty for whatever crime was committed. The legislation enforces harsher penalties for motive, not the crime committed. I am very much against the varied sentences doled out for the same crime...should be one size fits all.

:beer:

Pale Rider
06-17-2007, 02:07 AM
Firstly, I think "hate crime" legislation is worthless. Just enforce the penalty for whatever crime was committed. The legislation enforces harsher penalties for motive, not the crime committed. I am very much against the varied sentences doled out for the same crime...should be one size fits all.

So why is it then that homos want stiffer laws against accosting them, but not for the other way around?

Can you say, "double standard?" THAT, my friend, is part of the homo/lesbian agenda. Anyone can see that. I hope you can too.

OCA
06-17-2007, 07:17 AM
Just so you know, the majority of the "references" are all from about 1993 or earlier. So that would mean these sources are over 13 years old.
Therefore they have no credibility.

Would you trust a survey on how many teens admit to using drugs from 1969 in 1980????

Wow here is an advertisement for some queer buttfuckhouses in 2007!


ADULTS ONLY PLAY AREAS

( Bath Houses and Sex Clubs)

Several factors have led to the popularity of the baths here in Fort Lauderdale.

First, a couple of years ago, the police cracked down on all the illegal public sex that was happening in the back rooms of local bars. It was easy, cheap and you could have a cocktail along with your..... But it was and still is illegal so they are watching every park and restroom in the area - considered yourself warned!

Secondly, the gay guest houses and resorts are very nice places to stay but they do not have the atmosphere of a back room or a bath house.... and most owners don't promote that kind of thing on property during the day. At night, when it's a little more discreet and fewer guests may be around, anything goes!

So what's a horny guy to do in the afternoon? Go to the Bath House!






Club Fort Lauderdale
110 NW 5th Avenue
(behind the KFC on Broward Blvd.)

If this place had better beds, it would probably run some of the guest houses out of business. This is quite a facility. Huge gym, huge outdoor pool and deck area, steam room, dry sauna and a glass enclosed shower room. There are plenty of lockers and "changing rooms." The entire facility is kept very clean.

The one thing you may encounter here is a little attitude. This is where the younger guys with bodies that make you ask "why are you here?" come. But I've always experienced a mix of ages and body types....something for everyone!



Clubhouse II
2650 E. Oakland Park Blvd
(just east of Federal Hwy on the right side in a strip of office buildings)

The Clubhouse is a fun place that reminds me of the sex clubs I used to go to up in Washington DC, except this one smells better. This is a smaller facility and has no outdoor areas that I can find. There are many small changing rooms and a fair number of lockers. If you hit it at the wrong time, they can be sold out of both and you may have to wait. The guys that go here, in general, are a little older. But these are real men. There's NO attitude here. Lots of opportunity to play and to watch. Clubhouse has Leather Night on Tuesdays and is within walking distance from a couple of the gay guest houses.




Sex Clubs

Just within the last month or so, two sex clubs have opened in Fort Lauderdale. What's the difference between a sex club and a bath house? Typically... in a bath house, the norm is for everyone to be naked with a towel. In a sex club, it is not unusualy to see guys fully or partially clothed - or totally naked. And, as the name implies, sex clubs are great places for cruising for sex!

I have not visited either of these yet, but here are the two that are available:

Slammer Club
321 W. Sunrise Blvd

BBG Spa and Wellness Center
1164 E. Oakland Park Blvd
despite the name, it's still be advertised with a high sexual overtone

http://www.nakedconciergefortlauderdale.com/bathouses.php

Missileman
06-17-2007, 07:17 AM
So why is it then that homos want stiffer laws against accosting them, but not for the other way around?

Can you say, "double standard?" THAT, my friend, is part of the homo/lesbian agenda. Anyone can see that. I hope you can too.

Again. it's about the motive, not the crime. A gang of gays that engaged in "straight bashing" would be subject to hate crime legislation.

Nuc
06-17-2007, 08:52 AM
I suppose, then, that you have more recent statistics that refute the ones Pale Rider has posted??

Jeff, I know you're a moderator and everything so don't take this with any disrespect.

I think you should recuse yourself from threads dealing with perversions. Because no matter what these gays do it's not as perverted as playing a 5 string bass.

Jaco played 4 string. MacCartney played 4 string. James Jamerson played 4 string.

Only pervs play 5 string. And you have it there right in your name. It's like as if you are called "FagJeff". :laugh2::poke::slap::clap:

diuretic
06-17-2007, 09:07 AM
You forgot Gene Wright :cool::D :D

82Marine89
06-17-2007, 09:38 AM
Again. it's about the motive, not the crime. A gang of gays that engaged in "straight bashing" would be subject to hate crime legislation.

They sodomized a heterosexual 13 y/o. They targeted him for the purpose of sexually molesting him. That is motive. It's just a matter of this politically correct society not wanting to portray homosexuals as sexual deviants.

5stringJeff
06-17-2007, 10:48 AM
Jeff, I know you're a moderator and everything so don't take this with any disrespect.

I think you should recuse yourself from threads dealing with perversions. Because no matter what these gays do it's not as perverted as playing a 5 string bass.

Jaco played 4 string. MacCartney played 4 string. James Jamerson played 4 string.

Only pervs play 5 string. And you have it there right in your name. It's like as if you are called "FagJeff". :laugh2::poke::slap::clap:

Holy crap, I haven't laughed at anything like that on here for months!! :lmao: :clap: :laugh2:

gabosaurus
06-17-2007, 12:31 PM
So we are talking about Jeff playing a musically illegal alien bass? :laugh2:

5stringJeff
06-17-2007, 01:25 PM
Actually, we're talking about Jeff playing a more evolved bass! :D

4-strings = Neanderthals
5-strings = Homo Sapiens Sapiens

:D :D :D

mrg666
06-17-2007, 03:34 PM
there is still a bit of errotisism about two gals together wouldnt you say
:laugh2:

Missileman
06-17-2007, 03:47 PM
They sodomized a heterosexual 13 y/o. They targeted him for the purpose of sexually molesting him. That is motive. It's just a matter of this politically correct society not wanting to portray homosexuals as sexual deviants.

A robber who targets a bank for the purpose of robbing it isn't committing a hate crime. A hate crime is one where the motive is hate...it's no more complicated than that.

Sitarro
06-17-2007, 03:59 PM
Actually, we're talking about Jeff playing a more evolved bass! :D

4-strings = Neanderthals
5-strings = Homo Sapiens Sapiens

:D :D :D

I have a photo I took of Chris Squire with a triple neck bass(a slide that I haven't digitized). One of the necks had a 5 string head. His standard was the beautiful Rickenbacker 4001 that has been shaved down to 2/3s of it's original weight. He has always been a pretty good player don't ya think?

Nuc
06-17-2007, 04:28 PM
Actually, we're talking about Jeff playing a more evolved bass! :D

4-strings = Neanderthals
5-strings = Homo Sapiens Sapiens

:D :D :D

1 String = God

Nuc
06-17-2007, 04:29 PM
I have a photo I took of Chris Squire with a triple neck bass(a slide that I haven't digitized). One of the necks had a 5 string head. His standard was the beautiful Rickenbacker 4001 that has been shaved down to 2/3s of it's original weight. He has always been a pretty good player don't ya think?

One of the best. I saw him in '73 on the Close to the Edge tour and several times since then. Amazing player!

Sitarro
06-17-2007, 05:00 PM
One of the best. I saw him in '73 on the Close to the Edge tour and several times since then. Amazing player!

I saw Yes about 7 years ago(one of about 6 times) with The Alan Parsons Project opening the show..... sensory overload! Parson was so damn good that we didn't care if Yes came out but when they did they kicked serious ass. That was the only time that I know of that Parsons did a tour in the U.S. :beer:

Pale Rider
06-17-2007, 05:28 PM
Again. it's about the motive, not the crime. A gang of gays that engaged in "straight bashing" would be subject to hate crime legislation.

No... it's about breaking the law. It has nothing to do with queers or straights. You break the law, you pay the price. This over analyzing the situation is just nonsense.

Pale Rider
06-17-2007, 05:31 PM
A robber who targets a bank for the purpose of robbing it isn't committing a hate crime. A hate crime is one where the motive is hate...it's no more complicated than that.

If there were ever a need for hate crimes, it would be to protect hetero's from homos. They are the sick ones targeting straights.

Pale Rider
06-17-2007, 05:32 PM
Jeff, I know you're a moderator and everything so don't take this with any disrespect.

I think you should recuse yourself from threads dealing with perversions. Because no matter what these gays do it's not as perverted as playing a 5 string bass.

Jaco played 4 string. MacCartney played 4 string. James Jamerson played 4 string.

Only pervs play 5 string. And you have it there right in your name. It's like as if you are called "FagJeff".


And to you others, please feel free to start your own who plays what kind of bass thread. That's not what this one is about.

Gunny
06-17-2007, 06:15 PM
Just so you know, the majority of the "references" are all from about 1993 or earlier. So that would mean these sources are over 13 years old.
Therefore they have no credibility.

Would you trust a survey on how many teens admit to using drugs from 1969 in 1980????

I've got a Colt 1862 Navy .44 percussion revolver. It STILL has credibility. Your dishonest relativism amounts to nothing more than that.

Gunny
06-17-2007, 06:34 PM
lol yeah...I guess we can pretty much conclude that you are a fucking dumbass.

Again...Would you apply a survey of how many teenagers took drugs back in 1969 to 1980???

No, because times change. Therefore unless you have something from around 2001 to present time, you have nothing but old statistics.

I've pretty-much concluded YOU are the dumbass. You've got no game here, yet you insist on stepping onto the court.

You have nothing but a relativist argument. But I'll give you a chance to play. Please explain how homosexuality has changed since 1992.

Gunny
06-17-2007, 06:36 PM
Thanks for the negative rep. Did I hit a nerve with your dumb ass? Am I not allowed to express my opinions or do I need to fall in lock step with your agenda?

Negative rep only hurts if the person wielding it has any power. :laugh2:

diuretic
06-18-2007, 12:09 AM
They sodomized a heterosexual 13 y/o. They targeted him for the purpose of sexually molesting him. That is motive. It's just a matter of this politically correct society not wanting to portray homosexuals as sexual deviants.

What you've described is a sexual offence. Sexual offences are committed by deviants by definition. Using your reasoning then, all heterosexuals are deviants because some are rapists and heterosexual molestors of children.

diuretic
06-18-2007, 12:10 AM
I've pretty-much concluded YOU are the dumbass. You've got no game here, yet you insist on stepping onto the court.

You have nothing but a relativist argument. But I'll give you a chance to play. Please explain how homosexuality has changed since 1992.

I'm seeing this accusation a lot. What is a "relativist argument"? I suspect it doesn't exist but I'm happy to be proven wrong.

Pale Rider
06-18-2007, 12:52 AM
What you've described is a sexual offence. Sexual offences are committed by deviants by definition. Using your reasoning then, all heterosexuals are deviants because some are rapists and heterosexual molestors of children.

You didn't read the intial article I posted did you? You couldn't have... because you're completely ignoring the facts.

diuretic
06-18-2007, 06:58 AM
You didn't read the intial article I posted did you? You couldn't have... because you're completely ignoring the facts.

Since I was responding to a particular point being expressed I didn't think it was necessary to take it past what was being argued.

But I did read the original piece of course.

Pale Rider
06-18-2007, 07:50 AM
Since I was responding to a particular point being expressed I didn't think it was necessary to take it past what was being argued.

But I did read the original piece of course.

Well then whatever it was you were trying to "spin" was lost. It made no sense.