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Tricky Dicky
02-07-2014, 10:54 AM
Yes once past 70 ( our alloted time scale on the best of authorities ) we expect the advent of progressive senility. The actual time scale depending on personal genetics and state of health but what we are getting now is a veritable plague - an abnormal plague!
May I suggest a simple cause - mercury amalgam dental fillings.
The whole matter is a nonsense of course Dentists know damn well that mercury is a dangerous nerve poison. But it is easy to use and the leakage associated with it ( as adjacent dentine cells die off ) guarantees frequent and profitable return visits, until there is no longer any tooth left to drill and then, depending on income, it is either dentures or implants ( very profitable! )
The solution is to ban mercury amalgam and replace existing mercury fillings with composite...

Drummond
02-07-2014, 12:47 PM
Yes once past 70 ( our alloted time scale on the best of authorities ) we expect the advent of progressive senility. The actual time scale depending on personal genetics and state of health but what we are getting now is a veritable plague - an abnormal plague!
May I suggest a simple cause - mercury amalgam dental fillings.
The whole matter is a nonsense of course Dentists know damn well that mercury is a dangerous nerve poison. But it is easy to use and the leakage associated with it ( as adjacent dentine cells die off ) guarantees frequent and profitable return visits, until there is no longer any tooth left to drill and then, depending on income, it is either dentures or implants ( very profitable! )
The solution is to ban mercury amalgam and replace existing mercury fillings with composite...

Whether or not there's any truth to your thinking, your conclusion is sweeping, to say the least. Have studies been undertaken to determine the percentage of cases of senility attributable to mercury fillings ?? Somehow I doubt it. The percentage may be zero, or only a little above zero. Can you show us otherwise ? But for your case to be true, you'd have to suppose that it should be a majority of ALL cases ...

I have an alternative thought. What if this 'plague' you speak of only appears to be one, because life expectancy has increased ? What if, 100 years ago, we'd have seen the SAME percentage of such cases in our populations, had life expectancy - then - been what it is today, in modern times ?

aboutime
02-07-2014, 01:43 PM
Whether or not there's any truth to your thinking, your conclusion is sweeping, to say the least. Have studies been undertaken to determine the percentage of cases of senility attributable to mercury fillings ?? Somehow I doubt it. The percentage may be zero, or only a little above zero. Can you show us otherwise ? But for your case to be true, you'd have to suppose that it should be a majority of ALL cases ...

I have an alternative thought. What if this 'plague' you speak of only appears to be one, because life expectancy has increased ? What if, 100 years ago, we'd have seen the SAME percentage of such cases in our populations, had life expectancy - then - been what it is today, in modern times ?



Sir Drummond. Seems as if...we have quite a large number of Obama imitators here who must always find SOMETHING, or SOMEONE to blame for everything they will never quite understand about their OWN slipping personality.

We should leave Tricky to his own devices, and let him ramble on about his senility, whether it is occurring now...or coming soon to a Mouth full of mercury fillings.
Speaking for myself. In all my years. I never had a need for any kind of fillings, or dental surgeries that would threaten me in any way.
Guess I can't imitate OBAMA...being unable to use that excuse to blame anyone, or anything.

Tricky Dicky
02-08-2014, 06:14 AM
Sir Drummond. Seems as if...we have quite a large number of Obama imitators here who must always find SOMETHING, or SOMEONE to blame for everything they will never quite understand about their OWN slipping personality.

We should leave Tricky to his own devices, and let him ramble on about his senility, whether it is occurring now...or coming soon to a Mouth full of mercury fillings.
Speaking for myself. In all my years. I never had a need for any kind of fillings, or dental surgeries that would threaten me in any way.
Guess I can't imitate OBAMA...being unable to use that excuse to blame anyone, or anything.
You are indeed fortunate if you have no fillings. Provided you clean your teeth after a fixed meal and do not consume sugary snacks and AVOID THE DENTIST LIKE THE PLAGUE it is very likely you will keep yor teeth till extreme old age.
But spare a thought for us poor Brits. Thanks to muddy thinking we as children are compelled
to visit these quacks where free of charge any tiny cavities ( which will self heal if the above life style is followed ) are drilled out to vast caverns to support the introduction of a substance you would be scared to touch with your bare hands. And so the profitable filling cycle begins!

revelarts
02-08-2014, 07:18 AM
mercury is well known poison that causes nerve and brain damage and studies have been done showing the dangers as dental work.

however it's not the only cause of mental issues or dementia in old age.
and God has provided solutions to lessen and even cure some forms of dementia

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tailfins
02-08-2014, 08:54 AM
Sir Drummond. Seems as if...we have quite a large number of Obama imitators here who must always find SOMETHING, or SOMEONE to blame for everything they will never quite understand about their OWN slipping personality.

We should leave Tricky to his own devices, and let him ramble on about his senility, whether it is occurring now...or coming soon to a Mouth full of mercury fillings.
Speaking for myself. In all my years. I never had a need for any kind of fillings, or dental surgeries that would threaten me in any way.
Guess I can't imitate OBAMA...being unable to use that excuse to blame anyone, or anything.

But still became senile nonetheless. And don't complain ...... You left yourself wide open.

jimnyc
02-08-2014, 09:31 AM
Oh man, I sure have my share of filled cavities. So that explains why the 'ol brain is malfunctioning in the past few years? :dunno:

I also recently purchased some "Gillette Fresh" anti perspirant, clinical strength. Still OTC crap, but my wife says I will now be getting Alzheimers due to the metals in the product. Apparently most anti-perspirants have 17.5% aluminum in there while the clinical ones have 20%, which is the most allowed by law without a prescription. I just prefer not to have sweaty clothes, I hate it, which is why I looked for "top rated anti-perspirant" and came up with this crap. And now I'll die from it! :)

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
02-08-2014, 11:47 AM
Oh man, I sure have my share of filled cavities. So that explains why the 'ol brain is malfunctioning in the past few years? :dunno:

I also recently purchased some "Gillette Fresh" anti perspirant, clinical strength. Still OTC crap, but my wife says I will now be getting Alzheimers due to the metals in the product. Apparently most anti-perspirants have 17.5% aluminum in there while the clinical ones have 20%, which is the most allowed by law without a prescription. I just prefer not to have sweaty clothes, I hate it, which is why I looked for "top rated anti-perspirant" and came up with this crap. And now I'll die from it! :) It is more about what we do not get than what we get that is bad. Our brain needs a proper diet to stay healthy. It desperately needs certain minerals and vitamins. I researched all of this after my heart attack three years ago. Brain and heart are the two most important things to take special care of . So in my diet research I looked at the requirements for both. I found that the brain must have these . Vitamins A, B, C, D and E AND the minerals -- Magnesium, Selenium and Calcium, Zinc, Iron, Iodine .. FOR EXAMPLE AS WE GET OLDER WE NEED D3 to be able to fully process the Calcium in our foods that we eat. The major culprit in causing senility is a diet missing some or many of the required vitamins and minerals IMHO.. I am betting my life on it as I have designed my diet with that in mind. I eat foods that supply those and buy all those supplements from the health food store. I noticed a great improvement IN MY MEMORY when I first started taking Zinc and Magnesium . I noticed this in my chess games first. Thinking deeply in a complicated endgame can often require going up to 9 or ten levels deep and that involves tens of thousands of calculations along with the ability to store, compare and eventually decide which one to choose. Link--

The most famous chess-playing computer was IBM’s Deep Blue. In 1997, Deep Blue defeated Garry Kasparov, the world’s top-ranked chess player, marking the first time a human champion was defeated by a computer (Campbell et al., 2002). Scientists are still studying the reasons for Deep Blue’s success in a study published in a recent issue of Artificial Intelligence. IBM’s dismantling of the computer following the match largely caused the lengthy delay in thoroughly analyzing the match by obfuscating efforts to study it (Kasparov, 2003)


One of the major factors leading to Deep Blue’s victory was its system of “game tree searches” (Campbell et al., 2002). A game tree search is a method of analysis that allows a “thinker” to narrow its focus on a few key issues by having a central node distribute commands to secondary chips (Campbell et al., 2002). A chess game begins with 32 pieces, many of which can make a wide variety of moves, moving in multiple directions and at varying distances. Imagine trying to decide on a move, analyzing what would happen for each move by an opponent, and your response to this. It is easy to see that the number of potential moves is enormous. This is because it is the result of an exponential function. For example, if each player had 8 pieces that could move an average of 5 different ways, then after 5 moves by each player, the number of potential combinations of moves numbers in the quadrillions (4010), too many for even the fastest computer to evaluate within time limits. Yet most chess players search deeper than five moves into matches. To alleviate this problem, Deep Blue “decided” early in the search which moves were unlikely to lead to any productive position (Campbell et al., 2002), in other words, moves that would not result in jeopardizing the opposition’s pieces or would cause danger to the computer’s own pieces. This saved time, a very important advantage in this match because the first forty moves of each player were required to be played in two hours (Campbell et al., 2002). This also would be critical in other machines employing similar methods, such as a video game, which also are limited by time constraints.


The programming further augmented Deep Blue’s strength. The program gave “credit” for the advantages of certain positions. For example, a move that is significantly better than every alternative, i.e., one that saved one’s own pieces while endangering those of the opposition, received a large credit, marking it as a superior move and more likely to be played (Campbell et al., 2002). Another vital element was the determination that if a move is good, it is better played sooner rather than later (Campbell et al., 2002). This allowed the program to search deeper into the match because it wasted less time contemplating moves already evaluated and deemed insufficient by the computer.
I have even in friendly games at the chess club announced forced mates 8,9 and 10 moves deep. That was about 15/20 years ago and certainly can not do that now, just as once I could play blindfold chess and do well with it but alas no longer able to as it takes a prodigious feat of memory to do just one game. That's a major reason I do not play speed or blitz chess. Why bother when the time does not allow for deeper thinking? True the average good chess players thinks about two or three moves deep with each piece and then must do at least that many with each piece the opponent has to reply with. However, one must go several moves deeper to create and have success with artistic endeavors at the chess board. Sometimes this involves many , many thousands of calculations after the first few opening moves. So being acutely aware of brain ability and memory is a must in playing high level chess. Every chess player of world fame and the greatest talent diminished in ability in old age-- even Bronstein, Lasker, Alekhine, Capablanca, Rubenstein, Tarrasch, Marshall, etc. only exception to this seems to have been Robert James Fischer! Of course his IQ being 170 is a major reason along with him having almost total recall ! --Tyr

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
02-08-2014, 12:11 PM
It is more about what we do not get than what we get that is bad. Our brain needs a proper diet to stay healthy. It desperately needs certain minerals and vitamins. I researched all of this after my heart attack three years ago. Brain and heart are the two most important things to take special care of . So in my diet research I looked at the requirements for both. I found that the brain must have these . Vitamins A, B, C, D and E AND the minerals -- Magnesium, Selenium and Calcium, Zinc, Iron, Iodine .. FOR EXAMPLE AS WE GET OLDER WE NEED D3 to be able to fully process the Calcium in our foods that we eat. The major culprit in causing senility is a diet missing some or many of the required vitamins and minerals IMHO.. I am betting my life on it as I have designed my diet with that in mind. I eat foods that supply those and buy all those supplements from the health food store. I noticed a great improvement IN MY MEMORY when I first started taking Zinc and Magnesium . I noticed this in my chess games first. Thinking deeply in a complicated endgame can often require going up to 9 or ten levels deep and that involves tens of thousands of calculations along with the ability to store, compare and eventually decide which one to choose. Link--
I have even in friendly games at the chess club announced forced mates 8,9 and 10 moves deep. That was about 15/20 years ago and certainly can not do that now, just as once I could play blindfold chess and do well with it but alas no longer able to as it takes a prodigious feat of memory to do just one game. That's a major reason I do not play speed or blitz chess. Why bother when the time does not allow for deeper thinking? True the average good chess players thinks about two or three moves deep with each piece and then must do at least that many with each piece the opponent has to reply with. However, one must go several moves deeper to create and have success with artistic endeavors at the chess board. Sometimes this involves many , many thousands of calculations after the first few opening moves. So being acutely aware of brain ability and memory is a must in playing high level chess. Every chess player of world fame and the greatest talent diminished in ability in old age-- even Bronstein, Lasker, Alekhine, Capablanca, Rubenstein, Tarrasch, Marshall, etc. only exception to this seems to have been Robert James Fischer! Of course his IQ being 170 is a major reason along with him having almost total recall ! --Tyr Too late to edit, forgot to post the link. Here is the link for my cited source in my previous post --
http://www.science-writing.org/id43.html

Drummond
02-08-2014, 01:02 PM
You are indeed fortunate if you have no fillings. Provided you clean your teeth after a fixed meal and do not consume sugary snacks and AVOID THE DENTIST LIKE THE PLAGUE it is very likely you will keep yor teeth till extreme old age.
But spare a thought for us poor Brits. Thanks to muddy thinking we as children are compelled
to visit these quacks where free of charge any tiny cavities ( which will self heal if the above life style is followed ) are drilled out to vast caverns to support the introduction of a substance you would be scared to touch with your bare hands. And so the profitable filling cycle begins!

Well, 'Tricky' ... that's the NHS for you, eh ?

I see you avoided the argument I posted in post #2 of this thread.

If you're being honest, you will tell the American audience here that many UK dentists, most in fact, will offer treatment using alternative substances. Anyone reading your posts would believe, I think, that UK dentists do not offer any alternative, that everyone is forced to have them. But this is not the case. And you should also know, being British yourself, that this debate has been gone through in the UK's media already .. years ago.

See -

http://www.smiles.co.uk/treatment/general-dentistry/safe-amalgam-removal/


Safe Amalgam Removal

Most competent Dental Practitioners can replace Amalgam fillings (50% mercury / 50%silver approximately) for a more bio compatible material such as composite, zirconium, ceramic and porcelain.

To put all of this into context: the British NHS is still fond of using mercury amalgam fillings - one must assume because of its cheapness compared with viable alternatives. Which means that if you have such fillings and you want them removed, the course of action is to get this done 'privately', via a dentist operating outside of the strictures of the NHS. However ... such an alternative does exist, and for a dental patient determined to have it done, it CAN be done.

Granted that actually finding a dentist who'll take you on as a patient, in certain parts of the UK, is frequently very difficult ! But the greater likelihood, certainly from what I've found, is that in such areas, the preponderence of 'private' dentists far outweighs the NHS ones (... because a dentist doing NHS work gets paid far less for it than is true otherwise). In my own area, for example, there is just ONE dental practice taking on new NHS patients, and a good 15 or so others all working outside of the NHS who'll also take new patients.

Gaffer
02-08-2014, 01:44 PM
Based on dicky's post I am immune to senility as I have no teeth. I do love grandiose claims.

aboutime
02-08-2014, 07:13 PM
But still became senile nonetheless. And don't complain ...... You left yourself wide open.


Right you are tailfins, fj, and logroller. Your combined training of senility has paid off in spades.

You prove Imitation really is the purest form of Self-Flattery. It's so easy to Emulate all 3 of you.

jimnyc
02-08-2014, 07:19 PM
What I'm most curious about, considering I now know I'm going to go senile. Does having this stuff in my mouth just guarantee I'll go nuts, but does it speed it up? I mean, am I going to be starting to forget shit in a few weeks? If I have my teeth pulled now, will I still go nuts? Does it depend on how long they were in my mouth? If so, how long must they be in ones mouth before the senility sets in? If I die before I hit 70, does this mean I might be ok?

aboutime
02-08-2014, 07:26 PM
What I'm most curious about, considering I now know I'm going to go senile. Does having this stuff in my mouth just guarantee I'll go nuts, but does it speed it up? I mean, am I going to be starting to forget shit in a few weeks? If I have my teeth pulled now, will I still go nuts? Does it depend on how long they were in my mouth? If so, how long must they be in ones mouth before the senility sets in? If I die before I hit 70, does this mean I might be ok?


jimnyc. Honestly. I really think you shouldn't be worried about such crap. It's almost sounding like another version of AL GORE's GLOBAL WARMING...for the TEETH, kinds of stuff.

After I came home from the First Gulf War, and went through several spinal surgeries in the Persian Gulf (USNS MERCY), and being in contact with still UNKNOWN chemical substances while I spent time in FLEET HOSPITAL FIVE...in Saudi Arabia. Which was a nearly Mile Long Tent hospital.
I came home, and during the following five years. Began to lose all of my teeth while eating.
Yes. I took great care of my teeth. But the chemicals, medicines, and what was later denied as GULF WAR SYNDROME, caused my teeth to break off while chewing, and even while brushing.
So..if you are worried about this. I do believe. It is nothing more than another TRUMPED UP reason to scare people.
IMO....Of course.
The end results became...having all of what was left of my teeth...removed surgically.
Lots of fun.

logroller
02-09-2014, 03:21 AM
Right you are tailfins, fj, and logroller. Your combined training of senility has paid off in spades.

You prove Imitation really is the purest form of Self-Flattery. It's so easy to Emulate all 3 of you.
I hadn't even posted in this thread, yet you troll me into it. By since you miss me so. http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?44765-Logroller-s-responses-to-aboutime&p=682707#post682707

revelarts
02-09-2014, 10:04 AM
Jim, just FYI,
if your looking for a natural alternative for Deodorant, less so for antiperspirant.
try strait Baking Soda.
Use it sparingly a little goes a LONG way. half a teaspoon under each pit is a lot and it can last for a few days ...depending on how funky you happen to be.
Also
Lime Juice is very good, last about a day and half for me and it's probably better because it's an acid and more inline with what your skin does killing germs with it's more acidic surface, while Baking Soda is Alkaline.

jimnyc
02-09-2014, 03:35 PM
Jim, just FYI,
if your looking for a natural alternative for Deodorant, less so for antiperspirant.
try strait Baking Soda.
Use it sparingly a little goes a LONG way. half a teaspoon under each pit is a lot and it can last for a few days ...depending on how funky you happen to be.
Also
Lime Juice is very good, last about a day and half for me and it's probably better because it's an acid and more inline with what your skin does killing germs with it's more acidic surface, while Baking Soda is Alkaline.

Interesting, sounds like things that can be tried without harm...

For me, the issue was sweating, not smelling bad, so wouldn't that be the antiperspirant? I've only had this stuff for like a week, but I'm not so sure I've sweated enough since then to make even a damp spot! Sure, it may give me alzheimers some day according to my life - but no more ruined t-shirts or white dress shirts!!

Drummond
02-09-2014, 04:24 PM
Two deodorant suggestions, Jim. One is crystal deodorants ... one reasonably-sized crystal can last literally years (I use them myself).

See ...

http://www.naturalcosmeticnews.com/focus/the-science-behind-natural-crystal-deodorants/

The other one is using Milk of Magnesia. I've not tried it myself, but ...

http://findwholeness.hubpages.com/hub/The-Many-Uses-for-Milk-of-Magnesia

aboutime
02-09-2014, 04:26 PM
I hadn't even posted in this thread, yet you troll me into it. By since you miss me so. http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?44765-Logroller-s-responses-to-aboutime&p=682707#post682707


My apologies for leaving you out in the cold, or insulting you by mentioning your name because...I thought you deserved mentioning.

Tricky Dicky
02-11-2014, 09:24 AM
Well, 'Tricky' ... that's the NHS for you, eh ?

I see you avoided the argument I posted in post #2 of this thread.

If you're being honest, you will tell the American audience here that many UK dentists, most in fact, will offer treatment using alternative substances. Anyone reading your posts would believe, I think, that UK dentists do not offer any alternative, that everyone is forced to have them. But this is not the case. And you should also know, being British yourself, that this debate has been gone through in the UK's media already .. years ago.

See -

http://www.smiles.co.uk/treatment/general-dentistry/safe-amalgam-removal/



To put all of this into context: the British NHS is still fond of using mercury amalgam fillings - one must assume because of its cheapness compared with viable alternatives. Which means that if you have such fillings and you want them removed, the course of action is to get this done 'privately', via a dentist operating outside of the strictures of the NHS. However ... such an alternative does exist, and for a dental patient determined to have it done, it CAN be done.

Granted that actually finding a dentist who'll take you on as a patient, in certain parts of the UK, is frequently very difficult ! But the greater likelihood, certainly from what I've found, is that in such areas, the preponderence of 'private' dentists far outweighs the NHS ones (... because a dentist doing NHS work gets paid far less for it than is true otherwise). In my own area, for example, there is just ONE dental practice taking on new NHS patients, and a good 15 or so others all working outside of the NHS who'll also take new patients.


Hi Bulldog! The points I wish to make are the following:

(1) Take the reports of Scientists ( Science the new religion ) with a pinch of salt, they are all bank rolled by either Government or industry ( the same thing in the Anglo Saxon world. )
Imagine the astronomical amounts the Government and the Dental industry would have to pay if indeed it was established that SOME of, if not the majority causes of senility, were dental amalgam fillings.
(2) When one is a child one has no say in the matter, but when one is an adult one has to pay for the continuous repairs to the damage caused to a healthy tooth by drilling ( Dentists are not Doctors of dental medicine but dental surgeons - as in tree surgeon! )
(3) You have hit the nail on the head when you mention COSTS. To replace a mouth full of mercury amalgam fillings with the safer composite would cost a fortune eg the QUEEN HAS HAD IT DONE!

Tricky Dicky
02-12-2014, 09:45 AM
Based on dicky's post I am immune to senility as I have no teeth. I do love grandiose claims.

If you at some time have had mercury filled teeth in your mouth your body may have absorbed mercury at that time - and it may be STILL THERE!

jimnyc
02-12-2014, 10:46 AM
If you at some time have had mercury filled teeth in your mouth your body may have absorbed mercury at that time - and it may be STILL THERE!

What if I accidentally ate a thermometer?

Gaffer
02-12-2014, 01:23 PM
As a kid we use to play with mercury if we could find some. Roll it around in your hand, put it in a bowl and push it around. Of course those were the days when shoe stores had x-ray machines so you could look at where your toes were in new shoes. Riding bikes behind the DDT spray truck was also popular. Smelled great and no mosquito bites to worry about all night. Of course those were the days when this was a free country.

Drummond
02-12-2014, 02:12 PM
Greetings, 'Tricky' ..


Hi Bulldog! The points I wish to make are the following:

(1) Take the reports of Scientists ( Science the new religion ) with a pinch of salt, they are all bank rolled by either Government or industry ( the same thing in the Anglo Saxon world. )

Possibly a good point. I'm not convinced that's necessarily the whole truth, though. What if scientists report accurately and honestly, but some politicians choose to only hear what they want to ? Or, they stifle publication of a report they don't happen to like ?


Imagine the astronomical amounts the Government and the Dental industry would have to pay if indeed it was established that SOME of, if not the majority causes of senility, were dental amalgam fillings.

Ah, I can't argue with that one !! Very good point.


(2) When one is a child one has no say in the matter, but when one is an adult one has to pay for the continuous repairs to the damage caused to a healthy tooth by drilling ( Dentists are not Doctors of dental medicine but dental surgeons - as in tree surgeon! )

Having thought about it, I think that's a good point. Fair enough !


(3) You have hit the nail on the head when you mention COSTS. To replace a mouth full of mercury amalgam fillings with the safer composite would cost a fortune eg the QUEEN HAS HAD IT DONE!

With a mouthful of them ... fair point. I can't help but agree. Though, not everyone is going to need extensive work done. Some will get off lightly in terms of cost.

Drummond
02-12-2014, 02:15 PM
What if I accidentally ate a thermometer?

I'm struggling to imagine how anyone could 'accidentally' eat a thermometer.

Presumably, though ... you'd be doomed .....

aboutime
02-12-2014, 04:59 PM
What if I accidentally ate a thermometer?


Jim. That would be the IDEAL way to always know...what your temperature is. Like 98.6.

The one DEGREE all of us have...from the GET-GO!

jimnyc
02-12-2014, 05:02 PM
I'm struggling to imagine how anyone could 'accidentally' eat a thermometer.

Presumably, though ... you'd be doomed .....

Oh, I was just being a dumbass and trying to be funny. I don't think I would even eat one on purpose! I remember when I was little, and not sure how much truth to it, but other kids taught me that you couldn't even touch the mercury should a thermometer broke, that simply touching it was poisonous and can kill you. I know I can just type this into Google right now and find out the truth, but then no one would hear about my stupidity. We all learn this way! :)

jimnyc
02-12-2014, 05:03 PM
As a kid we use to play with mercury if we could find some. Roll it around in your hand, put it in a bowl and push it around. Of course those were the days when shoe stores had x-ray machines so you could look at where your toes were in new shoes. Riding bikes behind the DDT spray truck was also popular. Smelled great and no mosquito bites to worry about all night. Of course those were the days when this was a free country.

Just read this now! I guess if my friends were right, you and I are gonna die soon!

revelarts
02-12-2014, 05:18 PM
As a kid we use to play with mercury if we could find some. Roll it around in your hand, put it in a bowl and push it around. Of course those were the days when shoe stores had x-ray machines so you could look at where your toes were in new shoes. Riding bikes behind the DDT spray truck was also popular. Smelled great and no mosquito bites to worry about all night. Of course those were the days when this was a free country.

yeahh da good ol daze,
sheesh it's amazing we survived.

you could add that, toddlers ate peeling lead paint chips as snack food, many workers worked in asbestos filled rooms 'for safety', and medical Doctors and Fred Flintstone recommended cigarettes on TV.

revelarts
02-12-2014, 05:21 PM
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jimnyc
02-12-2014, 05:24 PM
No shit, did Fat Fred smoke during the actual shows? I was like an addict with The Flinstones and not sure I ever recall him smoking, or anyone for that fact. Not surprising that his character would be used to promote the death sticks though!

aboutime
02-12-2014, 05:28 PM
No shit, did Fat Fred smoke during the actual shows? I was like an addict with The Flinstones and not sure I ever recall him smoking, or anyone for that fact. Not surprising that his character would be used to promote the death sticks though!


Jim. All of this goes back to supporting the Obama theory we've all been hearing for six years.

If YOU can find something to argue about, or someone to BLAME...you are a true OBAMA nut.

Sounds as if..almost every subject, topic, person, thing, idea, remark, statement, situation these days NEEDS someone to come up with a COMPLAINT about it...Be INSULTED by it, Get OFFENDED by it, or just plain WHINE about something...for no good reason. Other than they are so brainwashed by the OBAMA theory of BLAME...they just remain...Outright STUPID.

revelarts
02-12-2014, 05:35 PM
No shit, did Fat Fred smoke during the actual shows? I was like an addict with The Flinstones and not sure I ever recall him smoking, or anyone for that fact. Not surprising that his character would be used to promote the death sticks though!

I don't remember seeing him smoking during the show either. maybe a celebratory cigar or 2 but that's all i remember.
I think the Ads are where he got his smoke breaks.