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Little-Acorn
02-10-2014, 11:48 AM
Remember when Congress voted down the DREAM act a few years ago, that contained various amnesty measures for different groups of illegal aliens? Obama had said at the time, that he might use Executive Orders to start implementing it a piece at a time, anyway.

People who respected the Constitution said that that was even worse than his implementing new things by Executive Order, that had not been voted on by Congress as required by the Constitution. In this case, they pointed out, he would be implementing things that had specifically been DISAPPROVED by Congress.

Well, he did it. Just before the 2012 election, he put in place a piece of the disapproved DREAM Act that granted amnesty to 500,000 illegal aliens. And he gave the Federal Citizenship and Immigration Services just two months to get it going, to get half a million more potential voters their amnesty in time for the election.

That agency normally deals with legal applicants such as foreign-born citizens who have gotten married to American citizens, assigning them green cardfs and visas to enter the U.S. But this new "emergency" program put all such normal business on the back burner, as CIS struggled to process the huge mass of demands from Obama's favored group of illegal aliens. According to the New York Times, 500,000 applications from foreign-born spouses of U.S. citizens etc., were delayed a year or more, despite their being completely legal.

Such behavior from a government is usually restricted to third-world countries, where corruption of normal government processes to satisfy political aims, is demanded by banana-republic dictators to pay off bribes or sway the outcome of corrupt elections.

Welcome to the New World Order, as described by the Daily Caller:


http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/09/obama-split-500000-american-families-to-legalize-illegals-before-2012-election/#!

President Barack Obama’s 2012 unilateral legalization of 500,000 young illegal immigrants helped him win the 2012 election — at the cost of splitting 500,000 innocent, law-abiding American families for months on end, according to a New York Times article.

The ruthless political calculation was buried deep in the low-key article, which was published on page 20 of the local “New York edition” of the national newspaper.

Obama directed officials to award work-permits to the illegal immigrants, preventing them from preparing green cards for Americans’ foreign-born spouses and children.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/09/us/program-benefiting-some-immigrants-extends-visa-wait-for-others.html?_r=0

Program Benefiting Some Immigrants Extends Visa Wait for Others

By JULIA PRESTON
FEB. 8, 2014

Many thousands of Americans seeking green cards for foreign spouses or other immediate relatives have been separated from them for a year or more because of swelling bureaucratic delays at a federal immigration agency in recent months.

The long waits came when the agency, Citizenship and Immigration Services, shifted attention and resources to a program President Obama started in 2012 to give deportation deferrals to young undocumented immigrants, according to administration officials and official data.

The trouble that American citizens have faced gaining permanent resident visas for their families raises questions about the agency’s priorities and its readiness to handle what could become a far bigger task. After Speaker John A. Boehner of Ohio said on Thursday that the House was not likely to act on an immigration overhaul this year, immigrant advocates are turning up their pressure on Mr. Obama to expand the deferral program to include many more of the 11.7 million immigrants in the country illegally.

Mr. Bachert’s wife, Debra, and their two children in a Skype session. She stayed in her native Australia to wait for a green card.

Andrew Bachert is one citizen caught in the slowdown. After he moved back to this country in August for work, he thought he and his wife, who is Australian, would be settled by now in a new home in New York State, shoveling snow and adjusting to the winter chill. Instead his wife, Debra Bachert, is stranded, along with the couple’s two teenagers and two dogs, in a hastily rented house in Adelaide, where the temperature rose in January to 115 degrees.

At loose ends, Mr. Bachert, 48, spent Halloween and Thanksgiving without his wife and children, and he opened his Christmas presents for them himself — on a Skype call so at least they could see what he had gotten for them.

“I’m sitting over here on my own, and it’s unbearably hard,” Mr. Bachert said. At the current pace, Mrs. Bachert will probably not travel to the United States before August.

Until recently, an American could obtain a green card for a spouse, child or parent — probably the easiest document in the immigration system — in five months or less. But over the past year, waits for approvals of those resident visas stretched to 15 months, and more than 500,000 applications became stuck in the pipeline, playing havoc with international moves and children’s schools and keeping families apart.

fj1200
02-10-2014, 05:40 PM
... to get half a million more potential voters their amnesty in time for the election.

Since when do green card holders vote?

tailfins
02-10-2014, 05:46 PM
Since when do green card holders vote?

At least since Loretta Sanchez was elected to Congress. However your point is correct in that green card holders aren't authorized to vote any more than someone who is in the country as a tourist or even illegally.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
02-10-2014, 10:41 PM
Since when do green card holders vote? No ID required lots of liberal places so vote away. However bamscum give them amnesty then later he waves his magic Executive order wand again and give them full citizenship--they'll vote often and for the right tyrant after that. See how that shat works--hint-- he has to wait until after the 2014 elections dontcha' know. ;)--Tyr

fj1200
02-11-2014, 08:00 AM
No ID required lots of liberal places so vote away. However bamscum give them amnesty then later he waves his magic Executive order wand again and give them full citizenship--they'll vote often and for the right tyrant after that. See how that shat works--hint-- he has to wait until after the 2014 elections dontcha' know. ;)--Tyr

So the green card issue was a strawman then? Thanks for admitting that for the OP.

Little-Acorn
02-11-2014, 01:53 PM
Since when do green card holders vote?

Since when do Presidents use Executive Orders to implement thangs that have been VOTED DOWN by Congress?

Naw, never happen, eh?

fj1200
02-11-2014, 02:36 PM
Since when do Presidents use Executive Orders to implement thangs that have been VOTED DOWN by Congress?

Naw, never happen, eh?

So green card holders don't vote (legally) then right? Glad we got that straight. In any case President's often use Executive Orders to enact rules/etc. that have been authorized by previous legislation. Sucks for Congress, and us, that they've delegated all that power to another branch of government.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
02-11-2014, 07:51 PM
So the green card issue was a strawman then? Thanks for admitting that for the OP. I only admitted that bamscum will do as he pleases the law and Constitution be damned. How you chose to take is your own responsibility. -Tyr

fj1200
02-12-2014, 04:30 AM
I only admitted that bamscum will do as he pleases the law and Constitution be damned. How you chose to take is your own responsibility. -Tyr

I take it that we all agree that green card holders don't vote (legally). Awesome.