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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-09-2014, 06:47 AM
Dem and leftists are about to have to face these two allies each seeking to be placated. Which vulgarity will they choose to promote over the other? :laugh:--Tyr


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/portland-cabbie-left-lesbian-couple-stranded-kissing-taxi-report-article-1.1712871#ixzz2vFUaVjpM

Portland cabbie left lesbian couple stranded on highway for kissing in his taxi: report


Oregon officials have sided with Kate Neal and Shanako Devoll, who claim cabbie Ahmed Egal told them ‘You can’t be gay in my cab’ before dropping them off on the side of Portland’s Interstate 84. But the cabbie claims the women were ‘drunk and mean.’
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By Carol Kuruvilla / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
A lesbian couple is crying foul after a taxi driver allegedly kicked them to the curb.

Oregon labor regulators have come out in favor of Kate Neal and Shanako Devoll, two women who say cabbie Ahmed Egal yelled "You can't be gay in my cab" before leaving them stranded on the side of the busy interstate highway.

Investigators from the Bureau of Labor and Industries found “substantial evidence” that Egal discriminated against the Portland women because of their sexual orientation, The Oregonian reports — but the cabbie has a different story.

Egal claims the women were drunk, jumped out of the car on their own and stiffed the bill.

The altercation took place in July 2013. Neal and Devoll called Egal’s managers at Broadway Cab for a ride home after a night out. The women began to be affectionate with each other in the car, hugging and kissing. These actions reportedly caused Egal to hurl discriminatory remarks towards the couple.



“He started shouting some pretty hurtful and homophobic things,” Neal told KATU. “And then he proceeded to pull over on the freeway and let us out of the cab."

But the taxi driver says the women jumped onto Interstate 84 on their own accord.

Egal called 911 at 11:53 p.m. He told the dispatcher that the customers didn’t want to pay.

"These people are real, real drunk and so mean. I'm tired of it, " the driver said, according to a 911 call obtained by The Oregonian. "They want to jump out of the car."


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/portland-cabbie-left-lesbian-couple-stranded-kissing-taxi-report-article-1.1712871#ixzz2vSsXWlae
I believe the lying cabbie driver, people always jump out to be stranded at night on a freeway.. :laugh:

Its practically a regular hobby with some folks. :rolleyes:

Muslim mans lies because he knows his ass is in deep trouble for obeying his savage and archaic "how to be a dominated slave book".

I can't wait to read how CAIR jumps in on this one!! Going to force the dumbass dems/lib/leftist hands and odds are they go with the greater perversion homosexuality. :laugh: This type of confrontation will only keep escalating until something has to give. Which master will our boy wonder choose to serve? :lol:--Tyr

jimnyc
03-09-2014, 07:37 AM
"Hey Boss, I was only doing about 55 on the highway when they made a leap for it!"

No doubt he's lying, but I still think he's in the right. If law in that area, sure, maybe no discrimination against gay folks. But that shouldn't mean one has to put up with couples kissing, or more, while in such a small occupied place and no reason why this driver should be subjected to it, whether gay or not. Being gay is protected - not gay acts.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-09-2014, 07:49 AM
"Hey Boss, I was only doing about 55 on the highway when they made a leap for it!"

No doubt he's lying, but I still think he's in the right. If law in that area, sure, maybe no discrimination against gay folks. But that shouldn't mean one has to put up with couples kissing, or more, while in such a small occupied place and no reason why this driver should be subjected to it, whether gay or not. Being gay is protected - not gay acts. While I definitely sympathize with the muslim in this case I also love "them" running headlong into liberalism Political Correctness run amok. They hate gays and believe they all should be executed while here in USA the socialist/lib/dems love gays and believe they should be exalted. Going to be a royal battle over this and I damn sure love it. My bewilderment was how and why has it taken so long for the battle to start? I love how the dumbass gays always supported the damn muslims even with the readily accessible fact that Islam condemns homosexuality and orders execution of gays! Now the gays will have to face that reality head on. LET the enemy fight amongst themselves . Nothing like internal strife in helping to secure a defeat of an avowed enemy. This is the turd in the punchbowl of that alliance. So perfectly delightful to see it bloom for all to see. Muslims simply hate gays and dogs, should they win power here they will slay them all. A fact.. --Tyr

Perianne
03-09-2014, 12:42 PM
Although it is not the law, I believe anyone should have the right to refuse service to anyone else for any reason they choose.

logroller
03-09-2014, 01:22 PM
"Hey Boss, I was only doing about 55 on the highway when they made a leap for it!"

No doubt he's lying, but I still think he's in the right. If law in that area, sure, maybe no discrimination against gay folks. But that shouldn't mean one has to put up with couples kissing, or more, while in such a small occupied place and no reason why this driver should be subjected to it, whether gay or not. Being gay is protected - not gay acts.
Agreed. Its the act itself, not the persons doing it that matters.

jimnyc
03-09-2014, 01:45 PM
Agreed. Its the act itself, not the persons doing it that matters.

But I still can't believe this guy expects anyone to believe they hopped out on a highway. He could have easily brought them off the highway and done the same and have better standing. But even if in the right based on their kissing, tossing them out on a highway probably wasn't his best idea!

jimnyc
03-09-2014, 01:48 PM
Although it is not the law, I believe anyone should have the right to refuse service to anyone else for any reason they choose.

Similar arguments as of late, and more specifically about the civil rights acts from the 1960's. And not necessarily about race, but rather to protect ones right to run their business as they see fit. IMO, it would be similar to opening a bakery within city limits and telling consumers they MUST shop there when they need bakery products. And it's silly to force a consumer to do business where they may not prefer to. Just as silly as forcing a business owner to do business with someone they may prefer not to.

logroller
03-09-2014, 02:18 PM
But I still can't believe this guy expects anyone to believe they hopped out on a highway. He could have easily brought them off the highway and done the same and have better standing. But even if in the right based on their kissing, tossing them out on a highway probably wasn't his best idea!
Clearly his action put them at risk of physical harm and that is no more acceptable (even less so IMHO) than the impetus for his doing so. They didn't pose a physical threat to him. No one has the right NOT to be insulted, right?

jimnyc
03-09-2014, 02:28 PM
Clearly his action put them at risk of physical harm and that is no more acceptable (even less so IMHO) than the impetus for his doing so. They didn't pose a physical threat to him. No one has the right NOT to be insulted, right?

Correctamundo! I disagree with him putting them at any type of risk. But I also don't feel he needs to tolerate certain actions in his car. So while he has no right NOT to be offended, he does reserve the right to toss people if they misbehave or are disrespectful in his car.

Abbey Marie
03-09-2014, 02:32 PM
I don't believe for a minute that they got out voluntarily.

Once he picked them up, I think he had an obligation to only put them out in a safe spot where they can reasonably be expected to find alternative transportation. Especially if they are in a big city full of crime.

But I do think this is another slippery slope argument: If they can kiss in his cab whether he likes it or not, can they fondle each other? Have sex?

Don't you love how Islam's true colors are starting to show in the West too? There is a clash of cultures coming that we probably have never seen here.

logroller
03-09-2014, 02:50 PM
Similar arguments as of late, and more specifically about the civil rights acts from the 1960's. And not necessarily about race, but rather to protect ones right to run their business as they see fit. IMO, it would be similar to opening a bakery within city limits and telling consumers they MUST shop there when they need bakery products. And it's silly to force a consumer to do business where they may not prefer to. Just as silly as forcing a business owner to do business with someone they may prefer not to.
In the present case, no one was forced to take a cab, but rather refused such. So if the act of kissing is lawfully permitted to be grounds for refusing service, fine-- I support that and do believe the law should too-- but it mustn't be contingent upon the sex of those who do so. Similarly, a baker that makes wedding cakes surely doesn't see any issue with cakes at weddings....so refusing to sell a cake to two of the same sex clearly rest upon the sex of the customers., not the act of providing cakes to weddings. I don't believe a conditional exception to the Civil Rights Act is allowable for non-church entities and baking and taxi services aren't inherently church-related activities anymore than hotel service is. Do you believe the civil rights act shouldn't apply any longer?

jimnyc
03-09-2014, 03:13 PM
In the present case, no one was forced to take a cab, but rather refused such. So if the act of kissing is lawfully permitted to be grounds for refusing service, fine-- I support that and do believe the law should too-- but it mustn't be contingent upon the sex of those who do so. Similarly, a baker that makes wedding cakes surely doesn't see any issue with cakes at weddings....so refusing to sell a cake to two of the same sex clearly rest upon the sex of the customers., not the act of providing cakes to weddings. I don't believe a conditional exception to the Civil Rights Act is allowable for non-church entities and baking and taxi services aren't inherently church-related activities anymore than hotel service is. Do you believe the civil rights act shouldn't apply any longer?

I said that in my first post, that the discrimination based on orientation alone wasn't enough for him to deny service. And hell, how would he even know anyway? But kissing or other forms of intimacy make people uncomfortable outside of the home, and I don't think a taxi driver should have to hear lips smacking and see people making out. The action alone is the sole reason I say he was within his rights to toss them, definitely not solely because they were lesbians.

As for the baker - he/she could easily bake a cake for anyone that comes in, and again, maybe not even know the relationship as he takes on a job. But one of faith should have the right to not feel like they are somehow involved in a gay marriage, performing for them or made to feel that perhaps they are condoning by making a cake for the occasion. We will likely never know the thought process... but that's why I feel people within private business should be able to refuse service to anyone for any reason. He/she may not have a problem with them being gay, but could very well and reasonably feel like they are indirectly supporting such a marriage if they make a cake for them.

And I don't think the taxi driver case would be an exemption as I don't believe he tossed them because they were lesbians, but rather for their actions. Actions are not covered characteristics, just the orientation part. Same as if it were a black person. You can't toss them for being black, but you could toss them for being black and sucking face and making you beyond uncomfortable. While the driver may need to follow such discrimination laws, passengers should also follow proper etiquette and taxi guidelines. I will guarantee you as well that such behavior wouldn't be tolerated on most airplanes as well. And they too cannot discriminate, but can't deny service if someone pushes the limits.

I was NEVER a fan of the civil rights act. That doesn't mean I support all discrimination. Well, anyway, most forms of discrimination are legal anyway. But pertaining to business, I don't agree that business owners should be forced to do business with ANYONE. I do believe there could be "levels". For example, I think most would agree that most hospitals can't send people away in emergency situations. I think we would all most agree that government funded businesses should abide by the act. But I think there should be exemptions for private businesses fully funded by the business owner. They should have the right to refuse service to anyone and everyone, and the consumer has the right to take their money elsewhere.

jafar00
03-09-2014, 09:58 PM
Don't cabs in your country have cctv recordings to settle such disputes or haven't you advanced into the 21st century yet? Perhaps the cabbie was telling the truth :p

jimnyc
03-10-2014, 07:35 AM
Don't cabs in your country have cctv recordings to settle such disputes or haven't you advanced into the 21st century yet? Perhaps the cabbie was telling the truth :p

Tis a good point, and most do have some sort of security cameras setup for safety reasons, at least around these parts. That would be awesome if they produced it and you saw the ladies crawling out the windows at 55! :)

Abbey Marie
03-10-2014, 09:31 AM
Are PDAs a Lesbian thing these days? We were at a restaurant last week, where two women sat on the same side of their table, and were all over each other. If I hadn't already eaten, I would have lost my appetite. Funny that in this large restaurant, they were the only couple acting this way. It seems like they want to shove it in people's faces now. Or are they just hyper-sexualized and enjoy being inappropriate?

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-10-2014, 05:33 PM
Are PDAs a Lesbian thing these days? We were at a restaurant last week, where two women sat on the same side of their table, and were all over each other. If I hadn't already eaten, I would have lost my appetite. Funny that in this large restaurant, they were the only couple acting this way. It seems like they want to shove it in people's faces now. Or are they just hyper-sexualized and enjoy being inappropriate? They want to shove it in peoples faces. Now that the great messiah has granted them "special rights". -Tyr