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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-11-2014, 09:59 PM
Actually long since past time to have done so! --Tyr




http://conservativepapers.com/news/2012/04/04/a-case-for-impeaching-obama/#.Ux_LSlKPK1t

236 Articles of Impeachment against Obama

By PETER PATON

Resolved, That Barak Hussein Obama, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors and that the following articles of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate:

There is a growing groundswell within American Republican and Tea Party ranks that impeachment proceedings should be initiated against President Obama on a whole list of violations of the Constitution and the War Powers Act

Congressmen Allen West of Florida (R-Florida) and Darrell Issa (R- California) have consistently and loudly criticized the president for overstepping the political mark and bypassing Congress’s approval on a whole range of dubious policies and issues:and the recent Obama attack on the Supreme Court of Justice and the Russian ” Open Mic ” gaffe on National Security, leads to one question: Is Barack Obama making his own case for impeachment? Obama did not become the Democratic nominee for President without the help of several leaders of the Democratic Party who knew that he was not eligible for office

Listed below are the Articles of Impeachment.

1. Appointment of a “shadow government” of some 35+ individuals termed “czars” who are not confirmed by the Senate and respond only to the president, yet have overarching regulatory powers – a clear violation of the separation of powers concept. Obama bypassed the Senate with many of his appointments of over 35 “czars.”

2. No congressional support for Libyan action (violation of the War Powers Act ). Obama lied to the American people when he said that there were no US troops on the ground in Libya and then later said they were only “logistical troops.” Obama violated the War Powers Act of 1973 by conducting a war against Libya without Congressional authorization.

3. Betraying of allies ( Israel and Great Britain. Obama has placed the security of our most trusted ally in the Middle East, Israel, in danger while increasing funding to the Palestinian Authority (Fatah, just another Islamic terrorist group) whilst they have enjoined a reconciliation pact with long-standing terrorist group Hamas and the disclosure of British nuclear secrets to the Russians in the Start Treaty. Obama gave missile codes to British Trident missiles to Russia.

4. Backdoor implementation of the DREAM Act which would grant 22 million illegals amnesty. Obama passed the Dream Act through an executive order, bypassing Congress again. DREAM is: Development, Relief and Education for Alien Minors

5. Telegraphing troop reductions to enemies – against the consult of his experienced field commanders – while embracing negotiations with our enemy, the Taliban, and recognizing another, the Muslim Brotherhood.

6. Betrayal of Arizona. Obama brought a federal lawsuit against a sovereign state, Arizona, seeking to protect its citizens from this threat of mass illegal immigration

7. Obama’s Failure to enforce U.S. law, the Defense of Marriage Act. He’s stripped America of its moral base by his support for homosexuality and the attack on marriage between a man and a women Obama allows the DOJ to refuse to enforce the Defense of Marriage Act.

8. Support of an inept and incompetent attorney general who has failed to prosecute voter intimidation cases (New Black Panther Party), initiated a dangerous gun-smuggling program (Operation Fast and Furious) – which resulted in deaths to one of our own law enforcement agents. Obama allowed Operation Fast and Furious to occur, which allowed hundreds of Mexican nationals and Border Agent Brian Terry to be murdered with illegal arms given out by the ATF and DOJ.

9. Increasing the regulatory burden on American business through bypassing the legislative process with his executive branch agencies such as the Environmental Protection Agency and the Food and Drug Administration.

10. Failure to take the steps necessary to secure our borders and stem the flow of illegal immigration, termed as “repel invasions” in our United States Constitution in Article 1, Section 8 and Article 4, Section 4. Obama has failed to defend US soil in Arizona as Mexican troops bring illegals and drugs into the USA, crossing the border doing so. This is a direct violation of Article IV, Section 4 of the Constitution.

11. Inappropriately commanding the release of strategic oil reserves and providing Brazil $2 billion for its offshore oil exploration.

12. Illegally soliciting funds from within the White House ($5 dinner video fundraiser). The unalienable rights endowed to us by the Creator; life, liberty, and the pursuit (not guarantee) of happiness – are being threatened by the Obama administration. This current government has abridged the consent of the governed and that whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends. It is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it.

13.Taking on the Supreme Court’s power of judicial review with a preemptive striking against justices who might contemplate an unfavorable ruling on ObamaCare.

14.”Open Mic ” gaffe in which he explained Russian President Dimitri Medvedev that he’d have more “flexibility” to sacrifice American security after his re-election

15. Occidental College Transcripts Reveals Obama Claimed Foreign Citizenship to Get Scholarship? http://tinyurl.com/czldzx8

16. Obama’s secret back channel Nuclear deal with Iran, a sworn enemy of America and our Allies

17. Obama’s holding direct talks with our avowed enemy the Taliban

18. Barack Hussein Obama’s Ineligibility to be POTUS because he was born in Kenya

19. Obama and his Administration leaking previously classified information about our intelligence communities’ efforts to slow down Iran’s march to nuclear weaponry.

20. Obama destabilized Western Ally Hosni Mubarak in Egypt, and allowed the Militant and Anti West Muslim Brotherhood to take over the Egyptian Regime, posing a mortal threat to our Ally Israel and our own Western assets and interests in the region. Obama instigated a revolution in Egypt against an ally in the War on Terror.

21. Obama has appointed Muslim Brotherhood advisers, enemies of the State, to the White House. Aid and comfort to the Muslim Brotherhood is TREASON per Article 3 Sec III of the US Constitution.. http://tinyurl.com/3x88l2s

22. Obama bypassing Congress again by Executive Decree to allow Illegal Immigrants to remain and vote in America for partisan electoral purposes and reasons.

23. Obama selling citizenship to criminals in direct opposition to Federal Law.

24. Obama admin assisted Egypt in remilitarizing the Sinai, “something forbidden by the Camp David Accords” http://is.gd/nDwdbl

25. Obama has attempted to compel religious institutions to pay for abortion services — a clear violation of First Amendment rights

26. Obama apologizing on 9/11 day to our sworn Islamist enemies, the Salafists, the same day these terrorists massacred the American Ambassador and three other American officials in the Benghazi Embassy, Libya. and ramsacked and looted the Cairo Embassy in Egypt.

27. Obama spending billions in aid on America´s enemies, while disregarding the needs of the US.

28. Obama is directly responsible for the many wars and murders of Christians in the Middle East

29. Obama has financially ruined this country, and his actions are leading to the demise of the dollar. President Obama is either an idiot or he is purposely trying to destroy the American economy.

30. Obama is hollowing out our military, and destroying our intelligence gathering capability.

31. Obama, aka Barry Soetoro deliberately concealed his true illegal background to be POTUS, TRUTH out: why #Obama records sealed FOREIGN student ID http://twitpic.com/aufduf Can we trust Pres. who games system – lies

32. Criminal cover up by the White House over BengaziGate, where four Americans, including Ambassador Stevens were murdered by Islamic Extremists.

33. #CANDYGATE Collusion with CNN Moderator Candy Crowley at the 2nd Debate to cover up BengaziGate The Candy-Obama Controversy : Get the Transcript’ http://amsp.ec/1P1Dyy

34. Obama’s Illegal Foreign Campaign money.

35. Obama Administration defining the Fort Hood Terrorist Act as a Workplace Accident, which gave succour and comfort to our enemies.

36. The Border-gate arms deal offense that resulted in the death of a border patrol agent as well as numerous innocent Mexican civilians.

37. Suspected organized and widespread election fraud engineered by Agents of the Obama Regime at the November 6th Presidential Election.

38. Obama and unrepentant terrorist William Ayers misappropriated over 300 million dollars in donations meant for the education of Chicago’s minority students. They routed the money to Obama’s community activist buddies who then tried to turn the students in radicals. The program was a total failure.

39. Obama, as an Illinois State Senator, redirected tens of millions in Illinois tax dollars to Valerie Jarrett and Tony Rezko, to provide housing for low income families. They returned the favor with political donations. The housing units were built with cheap materials and labor and are uninhabitable after a mere 10 years of use.

40. Obama accepted millions in illegal campaign contributions from foreign credit cards after the credit card filters used to screen out foreign money, was switched off. This also allowed domestic donors, who were over the legal limit, to contribute more.

41. Obama and Secretary of State Clinton’s efforts to bring the US under the UN’s Small Arms Treaty are direct violations of the Second Amendment of the US Constitution.

41. Obama attempted to move control of the Census Bureau from the Commerce Department to the White House, to be managed by then Chief of Staff Rahm Emmanuel.

42. Obama had provided under the radar amnesty to illegal immigrants by allowing ICE Director John Morton to prohibit ICE officers from enforcing US immigration laws.

43. Obama allowed USAG Holder to ignore the violation of US immigration laws in the sanctuary cities, i.e.,San Francisco, etc.

44. Obama illegally fired the IG Walpin for investigating Obama’s buddy, Mayor Kevin Johnson (Sacramento), for fraud (850K) with AmeriCorps.

45. Obama is in contempt of Federal court for his illegal oil drilling moratorium in the Gulf…

46. Obama spent a month as the UN Security Council Chair in 2009, which raises the question of his conflict of interest between the US and the UN. This is also likely a violation of his Oath of Office as the UN conflicts with our Constitution on many levels, i.e., LOST, UN Small Arms ban, etc.

47. Obama signed an EO in December 2009 that allows Interpol to operate in the US without oversight by Congress, courts, FBI, or local law enforcement.

48. Obama and Secretary of State Clinton misappropriated, er, used $23 million in US taxpayer funds to help Obama’s homeland of Kenya move to a communist nation where the freedom of speech, private property rights, and other rights are subservient to “social justice”. This includes the fact that the Kenyan constitution adopted Sharia Law, which violates the basic human rights of women.

49. Obama was likely involved with then Governor Rod Blagojevich to try and sell his Illinois Senate seat, i.e., pay to play. Jesse Jackson Jr is under investigation for it and it appears that Valerie Jarrett might also have been involved.

50. Obama ran a website that asked Americans to report on other Americans, in the area of ObamaCare, using whitehouse.gov and taxpayer money to do so. He repeated this with AttackWatch.

51. Obama got onto the Indiana ballot through voter fraud in 2008.

52. Obama sealed all of his records that would show that he is possibly an illegal president, that he is feloniously using a false SSN, that his draft registration number is false, that his Fulbright award was falsely awarded as Obama claimed foreign student status, and that his student aid was falsely obtained.

53. Obama violated the Constitution by firing the GM CEO.

54. Obama violated bankruptcy laws by forcing GM bondholders to accept millions of dollars in losses of money that they were legally entitled to.

55. Obama violated bankruptcy laws by awarding the UAW with a share of GM and Chrysler during their bankruptcy proceedings.

56. Obama bought votes for ObamaKare with acts like, “Cornhusker Kickback”, “Louisiana Purchase” and the DoI increasing water allocations toCalifornia’sCentral Valley. This brought in the votes of Dennis Cardoza and Jim Costa, both Democrat holdouts.

57. Obama lied about Americans being able to keep their healthcare coverage if they wanted to. ObamaKare is already forcing them out of their current coverage.

58. Obama attempted to bribe Joe Sestak with a job offer in order to get him to drop out of the Senate race against Arlen Specter.

59. Obama bypassed Congress and told the EPA to set carbon emission standards.

60. Obama forced BP to pony up a $20 billion slush fund to compensate Gulf Coast businesses and residents affected by the BP oil spill. It was administered by one of Obama’s political appointees and there is NO Congressional oversight.

61. Obama did nothing to Holder (abetted a felony) when Holder refused to prosecute two New Black Panther Party members for brandishing weapons in front of a voting location in Filthadelphia. A direct violation of the voters Civil Rights.

62. Obama bypassed the Senate with a recess appointment of Donald Berwick as the head of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. Violates policy.
http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?postid=273766

63. Obama illegally fired Sherry Sherrod from the USDA over remarks she made at an NAACP meeting in March 2010. He violated her due process.

64. Obama violated contractual law when his regime cancelled 77 oil field development contracts previously approved by Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, under Bush 43’s administration. This keeps us from extracting from 2-3 TRILLION barrels of oil.

65. Obama used the DHS to determine the political affiliation of Americans making FOIA requests about the Regime. This led to requests being stalled, lost, etc.

66. Obama acted in April 2009, at the G20 meeting, to expand the Special Drawing Rights, that now gives the IMF more control over the US economy.

67. Obama issued an EO on July 12, 2011, attempting to restrict the Second Amendment rights of US citizens in Texas, California, New Mexico and Arizona.

68. Obama’s allowed the FCC to assume authority over the internet, in direct violation of a federal appeals court that DENIED the commission that authority. In December, the FCC voted and passed the first federal regulations on internet traffic.

69. Obama allows the DHS/TSA to routinely violate the 4th/5th Amendment rights of Americans at airports, train stations, and VIPER checkpoints.

70. Obama allows the DOJ in 2009 to stop enforcing federal drug laws in regards to marijuana.

71. Obama attempted to bypass Congress and raise the Debt Ceiling by “reinterpreting” the 14th Amendment.

72. Obama just bypassed the Senate AGAIN by appointing Richard Cordray to a new unconstitutional agency, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Violates policy.
http://www.speaker.gov/blog/?postid=273766

73. Obama deprived the due process of two U.S.citizens, Anwar al-Awlaki and Samir Khan, by assassinating them via a CIA drone attack in Yemen on Sept. 30, 2011. This also raises the question of an act of war against Yemen for firing into a sovereign nation. Obama said in 2008: “No. I reject the Bush Administration’s claim that the President has plenary authority under the U.S. Constitution to detainU.S.citizens without charges as unlawful enemy combatants.”

74. Obama allowed Education Secretary Arne Duncan to grant waivers to No Child Left Behind however, this is a law enacted by Congress and neither Obama nor Duncan have the authority to authorize that We are long past time to impeach the bastard!! --Tyr

gabosaurus
03-11-2014, 11:48 PM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--EpkZv9qsUc/TmjiXZsVNhI/AAAAAAAABD8/ATgWvRhgnb4/s1600/O%2BYOU%2BMAD%252C%2BBRO%2B2011%2B9-7.jpg

Jeff
03-12-2014, 07:05 AM
The shame of it is he will never be impeached for the same reason he got in office, and the same reason he gets away with all the illegal BS he does, he is Black, imagine the trouble this country would be in if we actually did the right thing and dumped his criminal butt into jail, we would be into the next civil war and with the fine job he has done in office our Country couldn't stand a month under such conditions.

Abbey Marie
03-12-2014, 07:43 AM
Tyr, I totally understand how you feel, but I have learned to act like the man does not exist. It helps my blood pressure and overall sanity to do so. He will soon be gone, and we may have an even worse person to deal with.
:(

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-12-2014, 07:49 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--EpkZv9qsUc/TmjiXZsVNhI/AAAAAAAABD8/ATgWvRhgnb4/s1600/O%2BYOU%2BMAD%252C%2BBRO%2B2011%2B9-7.jpg
^^^^^^^^ Such an understatement.... Mad being far too tame a word... All that are not mad because they are either too blind or too stupid to even see it all are just foooooools IMHO.........--Tyr

fj1200
03-12-2014, 08:37 AM
Good luck with that and stuff.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-12-2014, 09:01 AM
Good luck with that and stuff. I have no expectation of any of it bearing fruit amigo. I just like to put the truth out there for more people to se and consider. We all know the ffing traitor is protected and will not be punished by the hand of man. However , even Satan can not protect the bastard from judgment rendered by God. That judgment the ffing worm will someday receive. No power in the universe can stop that.. --Tyr

fj1200
03-12-2014, 09:37 AM
I have no expectation of any of it bearing fruit amigo.

Perchance if the majority of the list wasn't so utterly stupid.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-12-2014, 05:40 PM
Perchance if the majority of the list wasn't so utterly stupid. Majority doesn't matter. Is enough there for him to be impeached.. I didn't quote the entire list. --Tyr

jimnyc
03-13-2014, 08:32 AM
I'm sure we'll never even see proceedings, let alone an impeachment. But that's one hell of a list there. A one man wrecking crew that consistently thinks he is the sole determiner of what is good and bad for our country.

fj1200
03-13-2014, 08:35 AM
Majority doesn't matter. Is enough there for him to be impeached.. I didn't quote the entire list. --Tyr

If you want what is credible to be taken seriously then the majority of it being stupid does matter. There's more than 74??? :facepalm99:

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-13-2014, 05:49 PM
If you want what is credible to be taken seriously then the majority of it being stupid does matter. There's more than 74??? :facepalm99: Yes, click the link and see. The bamscum has been busy as hell wrecking havoc upon his enemies (Allah's enemies).-Tyr

gabosaurus
03-13-2014, 05:53 PM
Obama has done nothing worse than what Dubya ever did. Or Reagan, for that matter.
Sorry tyr, Obama will be impeached about the same time as Dubya is brought before the World Court for crimes against humanity.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-13-2014, 07:07 PM
Obama has done nothing worse than what Dubya ever did. Or Reagan, for that matter.
Sorry tyr, Obama will be impeached about the same time as Dubya is brought before the World Court for crimes against humanity. That I do not doubt. Say , didn't Obama continue those same war crimes? ;)--Tyr

Drummond
03-13-2014, 09:22 PM
Perchance if the majority of the list wasn't so utterly stupid.

Chipping away (.. or trying to ?) at the list, FJ, because you're such an OPPONENT of Obama ?:rolleyes:

[I'm sure Mrs Thatcher would've approved ...]

Jeff
03-14-2014, 06:30 AM
That I do not doubt. Say , didn't Obama continue those same war crimes? ;)--Tyr



sssshhhhh , no one is suppose to be that smart :laugh: or as I see it at least the Libs aren't that smart

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-14-2014, 06:47 AM
sssshhhhh , no one is suppose to be that smart :laugh: or as I see it at least the Libs aren't that smart My friend, clearly you have 20/20 vision. :clap:--Tyr

fj1200
03-14-2014, 09:47 AM
Yes, click the link and see. The bamscum has been busy as hell wrecking havoc upon his enemies (Allah's enemies).-Tyr

Like I need to see more of the same. If you/they want to be credible about impeachment then they need to list charges related to impeachable offenses and not just the "I don't like this guy" stuff. Oh, but the Muslim references really help your case. :rolleyes:


Chipping away (.. or trying to ?) at the list, FJ, because you're such an OPPONENT of Obama ?:rolleyes:

[I'm sure Mrs Thatcher would've approved ...]

I guess I just can't fix your brand of stupid.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-14-2014, 10:04 AM
Like I need to see more of the same. If you/they want to be credible about impeachment then they need to list charges related to impeachable offenses and not just the "I don't like this guy" stuff. Oh, but the Muslim references really help your case. :rolleyes:
. Sorry that you so dislike the truth amigo. The Muslim reference was pure truth. I have no reason to deny truth. In fact, I am sworn by personal oath never to do so..

As to listing harmful but non-impeachable offenses perhaps they are included to present overwhelming evidence of his intent.. You know his intent to not abide by his sworn oath of office. His intent to destroy and attack our freedoms /Constitution.

A pity that you seem to reject such evidence being presented but in my opinion it serves as a foundation to point to true intent of the damn traitor! Should this nation survive and not be radically changed my stand and his guilt will be verified by history perhaps 50 to a 100 years from now. Time enough for the insanity and "God like worship" of a truly sniveling little liar and coward to have worn off. Same way "politics" and Truman's mistake of firing MacArthur can now be seen by good research into the matter. -Tyr

fj1200
03-14-2014, 10:07 AM
Sorry that you so dislike the truth amigo. The Muslim reference was pure truth. I have no reason to deny truth. In fact, I am sworn by personal oath never to do so..

As to listing harmful but non-impeachable offenses perhaps they are included to present overwhelming evidence of his intent.. You know his intent to not abide by his sworn oath of office. His intent to destroy and attack our freedoms /Constitution.

A pity that you seem to reject such evidence being presented but in my opinion it serves as a foundation to point to true intent of the damn traitor! Should this nation survive and not be radically changed my stand and his guilt will be verified by history perhaps 50 to a 100 years from now. Time enough for the insanity and "God like worship" of a truly sniveling little liar and coward to have worn off. Same way "politics" and Truman's mistake of firing MacArthur can now be seen by good research into the matter. -Tyr

Perhaps you didn't read what I actually wrote:


Like I need to see more of the same. If you/they want to be credible about impeachment then they need to list charges related to impeachable offenses and not just the "I don't like this guy" stuff. Oh, but the Muslim references really help your case. :rolleyes:

Yup, just checked the thread title and I see that it says, "Time to impeach Obama!! (http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?45103-Time-to-impeach-Obama!!)."

Gaffer
03-15-2014, 10:42 AM
Like I need to see more of the same. If you/they want to be credible about impeachment then they need to list charges related to impeachable offenses and not just the "I don't like this guy" stuff. Oh, but the Muslim references really help your case. :rolleyes:



I guess I just can't fix your brand of stupid.

He used the IRS to go after his political opponents, his administration lied about Benghazi, he used the justice department to stonewall congressional investigations, he has outright lied to everyone, he has ignored and changed laws passed by congress. He refuses to give up information subpoenaed by congress. What part of these is not impeachable. Even Nixon didn't do this much.

Congress is still collecting the evidence while the dems circle the wagons. If the repubs get a house and senate majority come Jan 1st, their first order of business should be to impeach the bastard. He can be the first black president ever impeached. Jokin joe would then become a steward who would have to make a lot of changes in order to avoid his own impeachment and be able run for the office on his own.

fj1200
03-15-2014, 10:45 AM
^Yup, he sucks. There might be 74+ reasons why he sucks. There just aren't 74 reasons why he should be impeached.

Gaffer
03-15-2014, 11:00 AM
^Yup, he sucks. There might be 74+ reasons why he sucks. There just aren't 74 reasons why he should be impeached.

True, all it takes is one. The others are just fuel for the fire. You can't have a good bonfire without a lot of wood.

If he had been a repub he would have been impeached in his first term. The media would have seen to it.

fj1200
03-15-2014, 11:03 AM
^Let's not let the one get lost in the bonfire. :)

NightTrain
03-15-2014, 11:26 AM
There quite a few instances of him circumventing Congress deliberately and illegally.

The oval office doesn't have the power to write laws, change laws and selectively enforce laws - he swore an oath saying he would uphold the Constitution of the United States and he has willfully broken that oath multiple times.

IMHO, he has earned an impeachment based on his illegal actions, much the same as Nixon did by ordering his men to break into the Watergate to spy on the DNC.

The sad part is that the process is broken, illustrated by the democrat-controlled Senate that will not confirm impeachment proceedings and that's why the House has not begun such proceedings.

I believe they should anyway, to make the Senators go on record that they are not willing to follow the Constitution & established laws in favor of partisanship politics.

Gaffer
03-16-2014, 08:11 AM
Let me be perfectly clear.

5940

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-16-2014, 09:42 AM
[QU
OTE=Gaffer;685727]Let me be perfectly clear.

5940[/QUOTE] Could not get more clear than that. What amazes me is that with a mountain of evidence of his true treasonous agenda some people still defend him and refuse to accept his having committed treason. It truly boggles the mind that such people cast all that aside and also cast the many other agenda policies he has promoted that are designed to purposely weaken this nation! Such denial in the face of such massive evidence that so clearly shows his true character pisses me off to no end!! --Tyr

fj1200
03-16-2014, 12:04 PM
Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attainder) of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attainder#Corruption_of_blood), or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted..

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-16-2014, 02:08 PM
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Quote Originally Posted by Article III, Section 3

Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.



or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort.

^^^^^^ Perhaps you had best research this part better. And not overlook his aiding terrorist groups which is itself an illegal act by specific Federal law. And do try to take those blinders off while doing so--iffin' ya can. :poke:--Tyr

Drummond
03-16-2014, 02:17 PM
I guess I just can't fix your brand of stupid.:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Translation: lacking any way of refuting an unwelcome comment with anything of substance, you resort to a personalised jibe, instead, for a hoped-for effect ..

aboutime
03-16-2014, 02:20 PM
^^^^^^ Perhaps you had best research this part better. And not overlook his aiding terrorist groups which is itself an illegal act by specific Federal law. And do try to take those blinders off while doing so--iffin' ya can. :poke:--Tyr



Tyr. fj is a nobody. His only purpose in coming here to DP is to incite misery he feels most comfortable in starting. As for the topic. Why waste anymore time arguing with a NOBODY like him?

And suggestions you give to him go unheard, and ignored. That's how people who THINK they are smarter than everyone else operate. He's a total waste of time.
Like Obama, and the three monkeys....http://icansayit.com/images/threemonkeys.jpg

jimnyc
03-16-2014, 02:38 PM
Tyr. fj is a nobody. His only purpose in coming here to DP is to incite misery he feels most comfortable in starting. As for the topic. Why waste anymore time arguing with a NOBODY like him?

Let me ask a question, and please don't get mad, as it's only to make a point and to try and stop some of the animosity. But anyway, you made it clear that you aren't thrilled with curse words or similar, that they are quite offensive and we have no need to lower ourselves to the level of other people that use certain words daily.

With that said, what is the difference between being offensive in that manner, or in the manner you wrote above or often do to Jafar? I'd rather someone said "fuck you" to me than tell me I'm a nobody. And I won't take sides in an argument, but I will say that FJ doesn't only come here to "incite misery he feels most comfortable in starting". And then you end by trying to implying that others are wasting their time in debating him.

If you get angry with me in the future, please just curse at me like a sailor, I'd rather not be a nobody, that would make me sad. And I would hope that others would still reply to me. I like you guys. :)

jimnyc
03-16-2014, 02:39 PM
Like Obama, and the three monkeys....http://icansayit.com/images/threemonkeys.jpg

RACIST!!! :coffee:

fj1200
03-16-2014, 03:16 PM
^^^^^^ Perhaps you had best research this part better. And not overlook his aiding terrorist groups which is itself an illegal act by specific Federal law. And do try to take those blinders off while doing so--iffin' ya can. :poke:--Tyr

You made the charge, I was just providing the basis upon which a "conviction" would be obtained.


Translation: lacking any way of refuting an unwelcome comment with anything of substance, you resort to a personalised jibe, instead, for a hoped-for effect ..

When you provide something of substance you will be met with substance. Your, moreso than usual, mindless blather doesn't warrant effort on my part.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-16-2014, 03:46 PM
How about everybody just shoot me because I think every member here now has true worth. I do not have to agree with any specific member's political views to see that worth. In fact I see worth in my opponents regardless of how they view me here. For me to just toss them off as worthless would be me dishonoring my personal vow of truth.

Only worthless human I know for sure about is Obama. And that's because I know exactly what he is and exactly what he is doing. I've spent 5 years making damn sure I am right about the damn bastard. He hides behind the protection his office provides because he is a dishonorable corrupted coward and traitor.

I think that a little bit more courtesy to those we disagree with will not harm any one of us. And displaying contempt also has its place too. Not for me to tell anybody how to post but I do think attacking the ideas presented by opposition is the path to take over that of constant ridicule. How about we all try to do more of that for a while??

And do not think my saying this makes me less committed to the strong rightwing stand I take because it doesn't. Members here are not the real enemy guys. The real enemies have government positions of power. Power they are using to further destroy this once great nation! Surely our time would be better spent exposing and condemning the actions of such very real vermin instead!

Or just ignore my suggestion and carry on. I am nothing more than just another member here but defeating ideas win out over personal attacks every time. That's regardless of which side wins in each specific case IMHO..

I accept my friends here maybe disliking me more for my temperance . Although they may feel that way its not affected my admiration and happiness at being their friend. That friendship is truly an honor given to me by each of them.. A true and generous gift... -Tyr

tailfins
03-16-2014, 05:54 PM
Let me ask a question, and please don't get mad, as it's only to make a point and to try and stop some of the animosity. But anyway, you made it clear that you aren't thrilled with curse words or similar, that they are quite offensive and we have no need to lower ourselves to the level of other people that use certain words daily.

With that said, what is the difference between being offensive in that manner, or in the manner you wrote above or often do to Jafar? I'd rather someone said "fuck you" to me than tell me I'm a nobody. And I won't take sides in an argument, but I will say that FJ doesn't only come here to "incite misery he feels most comfortable in starting". And then you end by trying to implying that others are wasting their time in debating him.

If you get angry with me in the future, please just curse at me like a sailor, I'd rather not be a nobody, that would make me sad. And I would hope that others would still reply to me. I like you guys. :)

If someone REALLY thinks you're a nobody, they won't bother you. That's a signal that you can get away with more antics. Believe me, in a corporate setting you WANT to be a nobody. You get to do the projects you want, your way.

tailfins
03-16-2014, 06:14 PM
If you get angry with me in the future, please just curse at me like a sailor, I'd rather not be a nobody, that would make me sad. And I would hope that others would still reply to me. I like you guys. :)

"I'm SOMEBODY now!!"


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7aIf1YnbbU

Drummond
03-16-2014, 06:15 PM
You made the charge, I was just providing the basis upon which a "conviction" would be obtained.



When you provide something of substance you will be met with substance. Your, moreso than usual, mindless blather doesn't warrant effort on my part.:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

What, to you, is 'substance' ?

Rewriting peoples' posts ?

Reproducing crossed-out versions of them ?

Pretending to be a 'Thatcherite', yet - when tested - you couldn't tell me of one of the most basic of her achievements, despite my testing you on it repeatedly ?

I debate. You, too, debate .. when it suits you to. When you run into difficulties, you resort to stunts.

It's a bit rich to be lectured about 'substance' by someone who departs from it at the drop of a hat.

fj1200
03-16-2014, 06:39 PM
See? No substance.


What, to you, is 'substance' ?

Rewriting peoples' posts ?

Reproducing crossed-out versions of them ?

Pretending to be a 'Thatcherite', yet - when tested - you couldn't tell me of one of the most basic of her achievements, despite my testing you on it repeatedly ?

I debate. You, too, debate .. when it suits you to. When you run into difficulties, you resort to stunts.

It's a bit rich to be lectured about 'substance' by someone who departs from it at the drop of a hat.


Your, moreso than usual, mindless blather doesn't warrant effort on my part.

:shrug: Someday you'll be able to hang in a debate. But I do love how it irks you so that you fail on the Thatcherite scale. :slap:

aboutime
03-16-2014, 06:44 PM
RACIST!!! :coffee:


:laugh::clap::lol::dance::slap::thumb::laugh2::pok e::cheers2::cool: ​And, if Obama says so. PROUD OF IT!

gabosaurus
03-16-2014, 11:07 PM
I have to appreciate a thread where so many of you are dedicated to trolling each other. :slap:

Tyr, I might say that I have to appreciate your stance on the issue. You don't waver on your feelings and you don't drop to a personal level.
Way too many of us (including myself on occasion) become excessively hostile to others simply because of differing political views.
"I hate Obama. You support Obama. Therefore, you are a horrible person. Your family is horrible. You are a menace to society as a whole. I can't believe your workplace supports your existence. Why do they allow your kind around children? You are not fit to live in the gutter!"
Or perhaps:
"I can't believe that you disagree with me! I thought you were my friend! If you were really my friend, you wouldn't tell me that I am wrong! You have stabbed me in the back! I will never be your friend again!"

The reason why I can get behind how so many of you oppose Obama was that I felt the same way about GW Bush. You see, back before Obama eroded civil rights, pissed on the Constitution and plunged America into unimaginable debt, GW Bush eroded civil rights, pissed on the Constitution and plunged America into unimaginable debt.
Conservatives hate it when liberal presidents do these things. Liberals hate it when conservative presidents do these things.

Not that any of you are going to agree with this. Because you are conservatives and your thinking process is warped. :rolleyes:

Jeff
03-17-2014, 06:50 AM
I have to appreciate a thread where so many of you are dedicated to trolling each other. :slap:

Tyr, I might say that I have to appreciate your stance on the issue. You don't waver on your feelings and you don't drop to a personal level.
Way too many of us (including myself on occasion) become excessively hostile to others simply because of differing political views.
"I hate Obama. You support Obama. Therefore, you are a horrible person. Your family is horrible. You are a menace to society as a whole. I can't believe your workplace supports your existence. Why do they allow your kind around children? You are not fit to live in the gutter!"
Or perhaps:
"I can't believe that you disagree with me! I thought you were my friend! If you were really my friend, you wouldn't tell me that I am wrong! You have stabbed me in the back! I will never be your friend again! Well said Gabby

The reason why I can get behind how so many of you oppose Obama was that I felt the same way about GW Bush. You see, back before Obama eroded civil rights, pissed on the Constitution and plunged America into unimaginable debt, GW Bush eroded civil rights, pissed on the Constitution and plunged America into unimaginable debt.
Conservatives hate it when liberal presidents do these things. Liberals hate it when conservative presidents do these things.

Not that any of you are going to agree with this. Because you are conservatives and your thinking process is warped. :rolleyes:


Your right I don't agree with the second half :laugh: but the first half of your response was spot on so I had to reply

jimnyc
03-17-2014, 07:12 AM
Your right I don't agree with the second half :laugh: but the first half of your response was spot on so I had to reply

And you're as dumb as I've been if you believe a damn word of what you have read. The part you said well said to has never happened here. And if not, and can't be proven, I wouldn't believe the word "the" from her. 100% made up bullshit. Trolls troll, and then try to fit in when pointed out - and that's where you fell for it, but I'll bet everything I own and more that the trolling is just hidden for now and 65 billion to 1 odds it returns. It always does, always has.

Jeff
03-17-2014, 07:40 AM
And you're as dumb as I've been if you believe a damn word of what you have read. The part you said well said to has never happened here. And if not, and can't be proven, I wouldn't believe the word "the" from her. 100% made up bullshit. Trolls troll, and then try to fit in when pointed out - and that's where you fell for it, but I'll bet everything I own and more that the trolling is just hidden for now and 65 billion to 1 odds it returns. It always does, always has.


I agree but still hold hope that there is good somewhere in her

aboutime
03-17-2014, 12:50 PM
Like Obama. Gabby has to defer, or distract attention from her own TROLLING here.

So, like Obama. She easily blames everyone else by calling us trolls, to change the subject of attention from HER.

A Troll on a forum like this...always must accuse others of doing exactly what the troll does.

So. Thank you Gabby. Your job is done here.

jimnyc
03-17-2014, 01:23 PM
I agree but still hold hope that there is good somewhere in her

Had that same sentiment many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many times. Staff members will vouch for that. I've always said I was done with her, then I relent and give another chance, only to eventually hear the same old bullshit and see the same old trolling and the same old personal bullshit. I think that "I" would be the bigger idiot if I continued to believe that and then get the same treatment. And in the long run I get angry at the bullshit coming my way, I end up exploding and getting nasty, and then I apologize, for shit that could have been avoided. But I think there are also times when you reach a limit, and rather than face that crap or take a chance on losing your temper, you simply take yourself out of the situation, which is my intent now.

Jeff
03-18-2014, 06:44 AM
Had that same sentiment many, many, many, many, many, many, many, many times. Staff members will vouch for that. I've always said I was done with her, then I relent and give another chance, only to eventually hear the same old bullshit and see the same old trolling and the same old personal bullshit. I think that "I" would be the bigger idiot if I continued to believe that and then get the same treatment. And in the long run I get angry at the bullshit coming my way, I end up exploding and getting nasty, and then I apologize, for shit that could have been avoided. But I think there are also times when you reach a limit, and rather than face that crap or take a chance on losing your temper, you simply take yourself out of the situation, which is my intent now.


Make no mistake I don't believe Gabby is going to become the #1 poster here but in the same token there is no bad in hoping she will settle down, we all have good in us somewhere, hell even the things I have done in my life God will forgive me so who am I to hold a grudge, and yes Gabby has attacked me as much if not more than most.

As for tempers yes I do explode at times and I feel that is wrong ( once I calm down ) but no matter how much I explode Gabby doesn't take it personal ( yes I know because she wants to see people lose there cool ) but that sounds more like a personal problem than one I feel anyone but Gabby is involved in.

So in conclusion do I believe Gabby is going to change , HELL NO, but do I hope she will, yes I do, having seen pics of Gabby I see a very good looking young lady as well as a great Mom ( one that truly loves her kid) so ya see she isn't all bad.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
03-18-2014, 08:54 AM
Make no mistake I don't believe Gabby is going to become the #1 poster here but in the same token there is no bad in hoping she will settle down, we all have good in us somewhere, hell even the things I have done in my life God will forgive me so who am I to hold a grudge, and yes Gabby has attacked me as much if not more than most.

As for tempers yes I do explode at times and I feel that is wrong ( once I calm down ) but no matter how much I explode Gabby doesn't take it personal ( yes I know because she wants to see people lose there cool ) but that sounds more like a personal problem than one I feel anyone but Gabby is involved in.

So in conclusion do I believe Gabby is going to change , HELL NO, but do I hope she will, yes I do, having seen pics of Gabby I see a very good looking young lady as well as a great Mom ( one that truly loves her kid) so ya see she isn't all bad. I have never seen a picture of Gabby . I have only the words she present to form an opinion and in those words I find some good. I was around a damn lot of truly and really bad people in my younger life and I know--BAD!!!! Yes, she knows how to piss people off but she does not qualify for the real kind of bad IMHO. Trust me I know -BAD... Was around it a lot , even beat the living hell out of it a lot and once engaged in some for a very brief spell as a young man. I was damn lucky to step away from that kind of bad very quickly. Gabby just has a special talent for seeing what buttons to push and she does so. Yet when not engaged in that special talent her posts reveal a very different person. I only state how I see it and do not condemn others for their judgments. If I am dead wrong it will not be a first time I assure you. As there was that one time back in the summer of 69'.....:laugh: I found out that I was dead wrong, only decades later did I find out that I was merely "mistaken". - ;)--Tyr

namvet
03-18-2014, 04:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji_UrifEmeo&feature=youtu.be

http://www.nbra.info/

Gunny
03-18-2014, 04:55 PM
The shame of it is he will never be impeached for the same reason he got in office, and the same reason he gets away with all the illegal BS he does, he is Black, imagine the trouble this country would be in if we actually did the right thing and dumped his criminal butt into jail, we would be into the next civil war and with the fine job he has done in office our Country couldn't stand a month under such conditions.

Screw all that. If he gets impeached, Biden is in office. Ask me, that's the only reason someone hasn't put a .308 in Obama's head.

Either let it go or plan for two.

aboutime
03-18-2014, 04:59 PM
Screw all that. If he gets impeached, Biden is in office. Ask me, that's the only reason someone hasn't put a .308 in Obama's head.

Either let it go or plan for two.


Yup! Most all of us out here feel the same way Gunny. Funny thing is. Most of the idiots out there who voted for Obama...TWICE.., have no idea who JOE BIDEN is.

He never made any promises WE KNOW..he would never keep...like Obama.

Obama wasn't fooled when he got Biden as the Number Two Idiot. He knew...nobody wanted Joe to be in charge of anything except....VISITS TO THE 7-11 to see the Indian Clerks in Delaware.

Gunny
03-18-2014, 05:36 PM
Yup! Most all of us out here feel the same way Gunny. Funny thing is. Most of the idiots out there who voted for Obama...TWICE.., have no idea who JOE BIDEN is.

He never made any promises WE KNOW..he would never keep...like Obama.

Obama wasn't fooled when he got Biden as the Number Two Idiot. He knew...nobody wanted Joe to be in charge of anything except....VISITS TO THE 7-11 to see the Indian Clerks in Delaware.

He had it made when Pelosi was #3. The world was right with him. Except he;s accomplished less than Jimmy Carter.