OBAMA LOVES ISLAM: Christianity, Eh. Not So Much‏

[Jeff]

Are these quotes from the President of Iran ? No they are from our fearless leader. Any more questions on where his heart is? Yes it is easy to see why the Obama family hasn't found a church in DC as of yet ( yes that was one of his promises to have a new home church by the time Easter came aaaa that was 5 almost 6 years ago )



20 Quotes By Barack Obama About Islam and Christianity



http://clashdaily.com/2014/03/obama-loves-islam-christianity-eh-not-so-much/

[jafar00]

You missed all his Jew posts.

And as the nation that recognized the State of Israel moments after its independence, we have a profound commitment to its survival as a strong, secure homeland for the Jewish people ...Because we understand the challenges Israel faces, I and my administration have made the security of Israel a priority. (https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/presquote.html)

"I had the chance to speak directly with young Israelis about the future they wanted for their country, their region and the world. And I saw once again how the dream of true freedom found its full expression in those words of hope from ‘Hatikvah,’ ‘lihyot am chofshi be’artzeinu, ‘To be a free people in our land.’ "

Read more: http://www.jta.org/2013/03/26/news-opinion/united-states/obama-quotes-hatikvah-in-passover-message#ixzz2wq4Ybj1j

There are a whole lot of religious people in America, including the majority of Democrats. When we abandon the field of religious discourse—when we ignore the debate about what it means to be a good Christian or Muslim or Jew; when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where or how it should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what it tells us about our obligations toward one another; when we shy away from religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that we will be unwelcome—others will fill the vacuum. And those who do are likely to be those with the most insular views of faith, or who cynically use religion to justify partisan ends.
Read more at http://www.notable-quotes.com/o/obama_barack.html#HQOHpiXFj7FMrOe2.99

The bit underlined above is kind of apt for the kind of posts found in the OP.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

You missed all his Jew posts.

And as the nation that recognized the State of Israel moments after its independence, we have a profound commitment to its survival as a strong, secure homeland for the Jewish people ...Because we understand the challenges Israel faces, I and my administration have made the security of Israel a priority. (https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/US-Israel/presquote.html)

"I had the chance to speak directly with young Israelis about the future they wanted for their country, their region and the world. And I saw once again how the dream of true freedom found its full expression in those words of hope from ‘Hatikvah,’ ‘lihyot am chofshi be’artzeinu, ‘To be a free people in our land.’ "

Read more: http://www.jta.org/2013/03/26/news-opinion/united-states/obama-quotes-hatikvah-in-passover-message#ixzz2wq4Ybj1j

There are a whole lot of religious people in America, including the majority of Democrats. When we abandon the field of religious discourse—when we ignore the debate about what it means to be a good Christian or Muslim or Jew; when we discuss religion only in the negative sense of where or how it should not be practiced, rather than in the positive sense of what it tells us about our obligations toward one another; when we shy away from religious venues and religious broadcasts because we assume that we will be unwelcome—others will fill the vacuum. And those who do are likely to be those with the most insular views of faith, or who cynically use religion to justify partisan ends.
Read more at http://www.notable-quotes.com/o/obama_barack.html#HQOHpiXFj7FMrOe2.99

The bit underlined above is kind of apt for the kind of posts found in the OP.


Really put a date on those comments by Obama. And his negative comments against Christianity are there but I have not found a single negative comment from him about Islam. PLEASE POST ANY IF YOU CAN FIND THEM. I can not wait to see how many you find. Can you say ZERO!!!???? I believe that exposes who he really admires and worships !!! Not some politically based comments he may have made to get Jewish votes during elections, his actions speak far louder than his lying words amigo.-Tyr

[gabosaurus]

If you REALLY must know, Obama is a disciple of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

http://updatednews.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/FSM.jpg

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

If you REALLY must know, Obama is a disciple of the Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.

http://updatednews.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/FSM.jpg

"My Sword is truth , my Shield is honor , my Helmet is courage and my Lance is PREPARATION. I shall attack to defend and defend to live. Words are powerful weapons when spoken or printed but when the enemy is sending bombs and bullets its always best to reply in kind until mere words can suffice again!" author Tyr-Ziu Saxnot

in this specific case its best to be able to roll in with tanks after your air defenses have obliterated the enemy tanks!-- message from another thread (A-10 Warthog).. ;)-Tyr

[jafar00]

Really put a date on those comments by Obama. And his negative comments against Christianity are there but I have not found a single negative comment from him about Islam. PLEASE POST ANY IF YOU CAN FIND THEM. I can not wait to see how many you find. Can you say ZERO!!!???? I believe that exposes who he really admires and worships !!! Not some politically based comments he may have made to get Jewish votes during elections, his actions speak far louder than his lying words amigo.-Tyr

Let's say it in Photos shall we?

We have this Obama doing Christian prayers in Church

http://www.ynaija.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/obama.jpg
http://armchairhawaii.com/obama_hawaii/obama-christmas-2010/obama-church-hawaii.jpg

Or this Obama wearing a Yarmulke doing a Jewish prayer at the Wailing Wall

http://www.israelandstuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/U.S.-President-Barack-Obama-wearing-a-yarmulke-while-praying-at-the-Western-Wall-Photo-courtesy-PMO.png

Or this Obama visiting the Blue Mosque (a popular Tourist attraction in Istanbul) and not doing any prayer at all
http://www.themuslimtimes.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/President-Obama-in-Blue-Mosque-e1367510363639.jpg

It looks to me like he is a Christian, doing a publicity stunt at the Wailing Wall for votes and only going to a Mosque for tourism purposes.

He is a Christian through and through and by his words of understanding about Islam, he is a better Christian than you are Tyr. He understands the reality about Islam. You don't.

[Jeff]

Let's say it in Photos shall we?

We have this Obama doing Christian prayers in Church

http://www.ynaija.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/obama.jpg
http://armchairhawaii.com/obama_hawaii/obama-christmas-2010/obama-church-hawaii.jpg

Or this Obama wearing a Yarmulke doing a Jewish prayer at the Wailing Wall

http://www.israelandstuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/U.S.-President-Barack-Obama-wearing-a-yarmulke-while-praying-at-the-Western-Wall-Photo-courtesy-PMO.png

Or this Obama visiting the Blue Mosque (a popular Tourist attraction in Istanbul) and not doing any prayer at all
http://www.themuslimtimes.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/President-Obama-in-Blue-Mosque-e1367510363639.jpg

It looks to me like he is a Christian, doing a publicity stunt at the Wailing Wall for votes and only going to a Mosque for tourism purposes.

He is a Christian through and through and by his words of understanding about Islam, he is a better Christian than you are Tyr. He understands the reality about Islam. You don't.


jafar you showed a couple of pictures and say he is a Christian, to be a Christian it takes more than a couple of snap shots ( which truth be told was to gain votes ) the article I posted showed 20 quotes not a couple pics and if ya watch Obama and all his actions it would be hard pressed to say he is anything other than a Muslim, and again I ask if he is such a great Christian why would he of not fulfilled a campaign promise and found a church to call home ? he stated he would of found one by Easter the first year he was in office but he still hasn't.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Let's say it in Photos shall we?

We have this Obama doing Christian prayers in Church

http://www.ynaija.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/obama.jpg
http://armchairhawaii.com/obama_hawaii/obama-christmas-2010/obama-church-hawaii.jpg

Or this Obama wearing a Yarmulke doing a Jewish prayer at the Wailing Wall

http://www.israelandstuff.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/U.S.-President-Barack-Obama-wearing-a-yarmulke-while-praying-at-the-Western-Wall-Photo-courtesy-PMO.png

Or this Obama visiting the Blue Mosque (a popular Tourist attraction in Istanbul) and not doing any prayer at all
http://www.themuslimtimes.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/President-Obama-in-Blue-Mosque-e1367510363639.jpg

It looks to me like he is a Christian, doing a publicity stunt at the Wailing Wall for votes and only going to a Mosque for tourism purposes.

He is a Christian through and through and by his words of understanding about Islam, he is a better Christian than you are Tyr. He understands the reality about Islam. You don't.

That's the ticket amigo, tell me how Unchristian I am for daring to present the truth about evil. All I needed was a Muslim to straighten me out on my lack of Christian knowledge. And you prove this by posting publicity photos of Obama doing his usual job of trying to be all things to all peoples as if any principled man can do that! Here is a hint , a principled man not only can never do that but will never even start to try to do that. Only a self-serving , deceiving lying SOB will do that and Obama is surely that and the worst President this great nation has ever known.

OH, I understand the reality of Islam all too well amigo. And since I do I dare present the reality of what Islam seeks to do to the entire world. You just dearly hate to read that reality and know that others read it too. I've been far more fair with you than you have with me. And I've done so simply because I view you personally as a man walking down a path to his destruction blinded by a cleverly designed brainwashing religious/political/militaristic machine called Islam.

The light of knowledge has been cast upon you reject it at your own peril. I bear you personally no contempt but I will never yield the TRUTH in favor of fallacies and blindness.
I've walked alone before on that devious path and was blessed enough to have been rescued. Sincerely seek truth and ye shall find it. Never fails..-Tyr

[jafar00]

jafar you showed a couple of pictures and say he is a Christian, to be a Christian it takes more than a couple of snap shots ( which truth be told was to gain votes ) the article I posted showed 20 quotes not a couple pics and if ya watch Obama and all his actions it would be hard pressed to say he is anything other than a Muslim, and again I ask if he is such a great Christian why would he of not fulfilled a campaign promise and found a church to call home ? he stated he would of found one by Easter the first year he was in office but he still hasn't.

All the quotes show is that he is trying to be tolerant with a bit of knowledge verses ignorance.


That's the ticket amigo, tell me how Unchristian I am for daring to present the truth about evil. All I needed was a Muslim to straighten me out on my lack of Christian knowledge. And you prove this by posting publicity photos of Obama doing his usual job of trying to be all things to all peoples as if any principled man can do that! Here is a hint , a principled man not only can never do that but will never even start to try to do that. Only a self-serving , deceiving lying SOB will do that and Obama is surely that and the worst President this great nation has ever known.

OH, I understand the reality of Islam all too well amigo. And since I do I dare present the reality of what Islam seeks to do to the entire world. You just dearly hate to read that reality and know that others read it too. I've been far more fair with you than you have with me. And I've done so simply because I view you personally as a man walking down a path to his destruction blinded by a cleverly designed brainwashing religious/political/militaristic machine called Islam.

The light of knowledge has been cast upon you reject it at your own peril. I bear you personally no contempt but I will never yield the TRUTH in favor of fallacies and blindness.
I've walked alone before on that devious path and was blessed enough to have been rescued. Sincerely seek truth and ye shall find it. Never fails..-Tyr

I beg to differ Tyr. You do not understand Islam at all. If you did, you would drop this foolish crusade you are on. You might even accept Mohamed (saw) as God's messenger.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

All the quotes show is that he is trying to be tolerant with a bit of knowledge verses ignorance.



I beg to differ Tyr. You do not understand Islam at all. If you did, you would drop this foolish crusade you are on. You might even accept Mohamed (saw) as God's messenger.

Your problem is the huge majority that do not have the same Islam that you have.. Don't blame me for that amigo.. I suggest that you start a thread if you like and present your version of Islam and if it is so very different than the ones doing all the bad it will be so noted. However denying the bad does nothing but make a person look like a deceiver to me. I will never accept denial of the truth , of true documented events simply because the negatively impact others. -Tyr

[jafar00]

Your problem is the huge majority that do not have the same Islam that you have.. Don't blame me for that amigo.. I suggest that you start a thread if you like and present your version of Islam and if it is so very different than the ones doing all the bad it will be so noted. However denying the bad does nothing but make a person look like a deceiver to me. I will never accept denial of the truth , of true documented events simply because the negatively impact others. -Tyr

Eh? There is only one Islam.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Eh? There is only one Islam.

I beg to differ amigo.. --Tyr



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This article summarizes the different branches in Islam.



Contents [hide]
1 Sunni Islam 1.1 Schools of jurisprudence
1.2 Schools of theology


1.3 Movements

2 Shia Islam 2.1 Twelver


2.2 Ismā'īlīsm



2.3 Zaidiyyah

3 Sufism 3.1 Bektashi
3.2 Chishti
3.3 Naqshbandi
3.4 Nimatullahi
3.5 Oveyssi (Uwaiysi)
3.6 Qadiri
3.7 Suhrawardiyya
3.8 Muridiyya
3.9 Tijaniyya
3.10 Shadiliyya
3.11 Mawlawiyya

4 Kharijite Islam 4.1 Ibadi

5 Smaller sects 5.1 Ahmadiyya


5.2 Quranism



5.3 Moorish Science
5.4 Nation of Islam
5.5 Mahdavism
5.6 Messiah Foundation International
5.7 Zikri
5.8 Five Percenter

6 Related concepts 6.1 Islamism
6.2 Liberals

7 See also
8 References
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Sunni Islam[edit]

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Sunni Muslims are the largest denomination of Islam and are known as Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jamā‘h or simply as Ahl as-Sunnah. The word Sunni comes from the word sunnah, which means the teachings and actions or examples of the Islamic prophet, Muhammad. Therefore, the term "Sunni" refers to those who follow or maintain the sunnah of the prophet Muhammad.

The Sunnis believe that Muhammad did not specifically appoint a successor to lead the Muslim ummah (community) before his death, and after an initial period of confusion, a group of his most prominent companions gathered and elected Abu Bakr Siddique, Muhammad's close friend and a father-in-law, as the first caliph of Islam. Sunni Muslims regard the first four caliphs (Abu Bakr, `Umar ibn al-Khattāb, Uthman Ibn Affan and Ali ibn Abu Talib) as "al-Khulafā’ur-Rāshidūn" or "The Rightly Guided Caliphs." Sunnis also believe that the position of caliph may be attained democratically, on gaining majority votes, but after the Rashidun, the position turned into a hereditary dynastic rule because of the divisions that started by the Umayyads and others. After the fall of the Ottoman Empire in 1923, there has never been another caliph as widely recognized in the Muslim world.

Schools of jurisprudence[edit]

Main article: Madh'hab

Madhhab is an Islamic term that refers to a school of thought or religious jurisprudence within Sunni Islam. Several of the Sahaba had a unique school of jurisprudence, but these schools were gradually consolidated or discarded so that there are currently four recognized schools. The differences between these schools of thought manifest in some practical and philosophical differences. Sunnis generally do not identify themselves with a particular school of thought, simply calling themselves "Sunnis," but the populations in certain regions will often - whether intentionally or unintentionally - follow the views of one school while respecting others.
Hanafi
The Hanafi school was founded by Abu Hanifa an-Nu‘man. It is followed by Muslims in the Levant, Central Asia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, Western Lower Egypt, Iraq, Turkey, the Balkans and by most of Russia's Muslim community. There are movements within this school such as Deobandis, and the Tablighi Jamaat, which are all concentrated in South Asia and in most parts of India.
Maliki
The Maliki school was founded by Malik ibn Anas. It is followed by Muslims in North Africa, West Africa, the United Arab Emirates, Kuwait, in parts of Saudi Arabia and in Upper Egypt. The Murabitun World Movement follows this school as well. In the past, it was also followed in parts of Europe under Islamic rule, particularly Islamic Spain and the Emirate of Sicily.
Shafiʿi
The Shafiʿi school was founded by Muhammad ibn Idris ash-Shafiʿi. It is followed by Muslims in Eastern Lower Egypt, Somalia, Jordan, Palestine, Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Thailand, Singapore, Philippines, Yemen, Kurdistan, Kerala (Mappilas) and is officially followed by the governments of Brunei and Malaysia.
Hanbali
The Hanbali school was founded by Ahmad ibn Hanbal. It is followed by Muslims in Qatar, most of Saudi Arabia and minority communities in Syria and Iraq. The majority of the Salafist movement claims to follow this school.
Ẓāhirī
The Ẓāhirī school was founded by Dawud al-Zahiri. It is followed by minority communities in Morocco and Pakistan. In the past, it was also followed by the majority of Muslims in Mesopotamia, Portugal, the Balearic Islands, North Africa and parts of Spain.





Overview of the major schools and branches of Islam
Schools of theology[edit]

Main article: Aqidah

Aqidah is an Islamic term meaning "creed" or "belief". Any religious belief system, or creed, can be considered an example of aqidah. However this term has taken a significant technical usage in Muslim history and theology, denoting those matters over which Muslims hold conviction. The term is usually translated as "theology". Such traditions are divisions orthogonal to sectarian divisions of Islam, and a Mu'tazili may for example, belong to Jafari, Zaidi or even Hanafi school of jurisprudence.

[gabosaurus]

What Tyr is trying to say is that the Westboro Baptist Church, Scientology and snake handlers all represent Christianity. :rolleyes:

[jafar00]

What Tyr is trying to say is that the Westboro Baptist Church, Scientology and snake handlers all represent Christianity. :rolleyes:

He confuses schools of thought with different religions. Sufism for example is notable for adherents delving deeper into Islamic mysticism and spirituality than most other Muslims but Tassawuff is an integral part of Islam and most Muslims perform at least a little Dhikr (remembrance of God) every prayer. Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i, Hanbali are also not different Islams, nor sects but are different schools of thought that agree with each other in the end but take different approaches to agreement. eg. small differences on where to put your hands when standing in prayer or whether to raise the hands for takbir between rakats. That sort of thing.

Others mentioned in the wiki (because wikipedia is always right :poke:) such as the Ahmadiyya, swerve far away from Islamic beliefs. Ahmadi don't believe in the 2nd coming of Jesus and follow a false prophet who claimed to be the Mahdi. They don't even believe that Jesus was crucified and that he lived a full life on Earth and his tomb is somewhere in Kashmir (because he was actually Indian right? :laugh:)

[Jeff]

All the quotes show is that he is trying to be tolerant with a bit of knowledge verses ignorance.
Fair enough but if that is the case how about if he shows some of that tolerance towards Christians, seriously that is a nice thought jafar but any one that will take the time to look knows Obama is a Muslim

I beg to differ Tyr. You do not understand Islam at all. If you did, you would drop this foolish crusade you are on. You might even accept Mohamed (saw) as God's messengere I have to agree with jafar here Tyr you are not a real Muslim but then again according to jafar he is the only real Muslim :laugh:.