Sarah Palin speaks a powerful and brilliant truth.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/27/sarah-palin-waterboarding_n_5222665.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp0000 0592

Sarah Palin: 'Waterboarding Is How We'd Baptize Terrorists' If I Were In Charge



The Huffington Post | by Mollie Reilly
Posted: 04/27/2014 1:33 pm EDT


Sarah Palin wants terrorists to know how the United States would deal with them if she were president.

Speaking Saturday at the National Rifle Association's "Stand And Fight" rally at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis, the former Alaska governor and 2008 GOP vice presidential candidate accused the Obama administration of instating counterterrorism policies that "coddle adversaries."

"Come on. Enemies, who would utterly annihilate America, they who'd obviously have information on plots, to carry out Jihad. Oh, but you can't offend them, can't make them feel uncomfortable, not even a smidgen," she said. "Well, if I were in charge, they would know that waterboarding is how we'd baptize terrorists."

Saturday's rally was part of the NRA's annual meeting, which drew thousands to Indianapolis.

During her speech, Palin focused on Second Amendment rights, which she said liberals are "attacking" in addition to the United States' "foundational values and tradition." According to Palin, creating gun-free zones in schools and other public buildings is "stupid on steroids."

"Maybe our kids could be defended against criminals on the spot if more Mama Grizzlies carried," she said. "And [the] Obama administration wants you ID'd for that? Well, then go ahead and carry a sign too. A sign that says 'Yeah, I carry a gun because a cop is too heavy.'"

That woman would have been a million times better than the current vermin infecting the WHITEHOUSE NOW.
Putin would at least have feared her!!!! --Tyr

[jafar00]

That woman would have been a million times better than the current vermin infecting the WHITEHOUSE NOW.
Putin would at least have feared her!!!! --Tyr

Welcome to WWIII.

[NightTrain]

Sarah is pretty awesome.

Their house is right down the road from me.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Welcome to WWIII.

Why do you say that? Are you fearful of America having a strong President?
I think you are because a strong President wouldn't be aiding the Islamists in their murdering AGENDA!
If you are going to be al for peace and promote your religion as being peaceful you should stop supporting Hamas and the murdering Pali's. And quit playing them off as innocent victims when they do not want peace all they want is vengeance and the murder of all Jews.
A man can not ride a horse and expect it to go directly both North and South at the same time..-Tyr

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Sarah is pretty awesome.

Their house is right down the road from me.

Pretty, awesome and very intelligent. No wonder why the lib/dem/leftists fear her!! -Tyr

[jafar00]

Why do you say that? Are you fearful of America having a strong President?
I think you are because a strong President wouldn't be aiding the Islamists in their murdering AGENDA!
If you are going to be al for peace and promote your religion as being peaceful you should stop supporting Hamas and the murdering Pali's. And quit playing them off as innocent victims when they do not want peace all they want is vengeance and the murder of all Jews.
A man can not ride a horse and expect it to go directly both North and South at the same time..-Tyr

No, I'm fearful of 'Murrica having a President who is more of a moron than Bush jr was.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

No, I'm fearful of 'Murrica having a President who is more of a moron than Bush jr was.
Foolishly stated as you live in a dream world where you are told and believe that the Obama is brilliant!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:--Tyr

[NightTrain]

No, I'm fearful of 'Murrica having a President who is more of a moron than Bush jr was.


What's the matter, Jafar?

You don't want to be baptized?

What are you hiding?

[Drummond]

No, I'm fearful of 'Murrica having a President who is more of a moron than Bush jr was.

What, in your eyes, makes 'Bush jr' a 'moron', Jafar ?

Was his fight against terrorism a 'moronic' act ?

I suppose that knuckling under to it would've been better .. ?!

[jafar00]

Foolishly stated as you live in a dream world where you are told and believe that the Obama is brilliant!!! :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:--Tyr

I never said Obama was brilliant. There was "Hope" but that soon faded. He is as much a liar as our own Tony "No new taxes, save the trees etc.." Abbott. He just approved logging in native rainforests, and is going to add a 1-2% "debt levy" tax to our burden in the next budget as well as attacking the elderly, medicare and complaining that the budget is in dire straights. Meanwhile spending $24billion on some new Jets and telling us to tighten our belts.

All politicians are scumbags.


What's the matter, Jafar?

You don't want to be baptized?

What are you hiding?

Why would I want a priest moistening my head?

[NightTrain]

I never said Obama was brilliant. There was "Hope" but that soon faded. He is as much a liar as our own Tony "No new taxes, save the trees etc.." Abbott. He just approved logging in native rainforests, and is going to add a 1-2% "debt levy" tax to our burden in the next budget as well as attacking the elderly, medicare and complaining that the budget is in dire straights. Meanwhile spending $24billion on some new Jets and telling us to tighten our belts.

All politicians are scumbags.

Just remember : You still need lumber to build stuff, 4 out of 5 hippies agree.

Australia needs to buy those F-35 Fighters from the USA because they're the best in the world. You do want the best military equipment available for your country, right?

Soon you guys will be equipped to give us a hand the next time we need to go carpet bomb the snot out of terrorists or a rogue country. They also carry Daisy Cutters, which are very effective against Toyotas hauling ass away from an abruptly adjourned terrorist meeting at the Mosque that's getting beat up by an orbiting AC-130.

You should be excited and proud, not just anyone is allowed to buy our latest hardware.



Why would I want a priest moistening my head?

I guess you didn't bother reading the OP.

Sarah explained it for you rather plainly, I thought.

[aboutime]

What, in your eyes, makes 'Bush jr' a 'moron', Jafar ?

Was his fight against terrorism a 'moronic' act ?

I suppose that knuckling under to it would've been better .. ?!


Sir Drummond. There's one, really easy way to SHUT THE BUSH HATER'S UP.

Just ask them..."How many states they were gov. for, and how many times were they elected to be President of the United States?

Jealousy, and Envy by IDIOTS who must use name calling to make themselves feel good. Just proves how STUPID they are. And nobody will ever take THAT RIGHT TO BE STUPID from them.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I never said Obama was brilliant. There was "Hope" but that soon faded. He is as much a liar as our own Tony "No new taxes, save the trees etc.." Abbott. He just approved logging in native rainforests, and is going to add a 1-2% "debt levy" tax to our burden in the next budget as well as attacking the elderly, medicare and complaining that the budget is in dire straights. Meanwhile spending $24billion on some new Jets and telling us to tighten our belts.

All politicians are scumbags.

Some are far, far more than others. We currently put into power the worst we have ever had. And what is so bad about that is he is praised and glorified to be the best we ever had!! Which goes to show when a great fall occurs it takes one to the depths of depravity and says--eat your fill for "tomorrow" you will wake to pay for your stupidity and self-serving greedy actions..
And by God so we shall. -Tyr

[jafar00]

Just remember : You still need lumber to build stuff, 4 out of 5 hippies agree.

Australia needs to buy those F-35 Fighters from the USA because they're the best in the world. You do want the best military equipment available for your country, right?

Soon you guys will be equipped to give us a hand the next time we need to go carpet bomb the snot out of terrorists or a rogue country. They also carry Daisy Cutters, which are very effective against Toyotas hauling ass away from an abruptly adjourned terrorist meeting at the Mosque that's getting beat up by an orbiting AC-130.

You should be excited and proud, not just anyone is allowed to buy our latest hardware.




I guess you didn't bother reading the OP.

Sarah explained it for you rather plainly, I thought.

The F-35 is very expensive to run, not reliable and when they work out the kinks, they will be obsolete. Indonesia got some newer tech from Russia and Indonesia that runs rings around the F-35 and China has a bunch of new stealth jets.

Besides, when the PM is asking everyone to tighten their belts to foolishly return the budget to surplus while he goes on a machines of war spending spree is ridiculous.

Also, you don't need a $135million jet to take out a terrorist. A man and a good rifle is more than sufficient. :p

[NightTrain]

The F-35 is very expensive to run, not reliable and when they work out the kinks, they will be obsolete. Indonesia got some newer tech from Russia and Indonesia that runs rings around the F-35 and China has a bunch of new stealth jets.

Besides, when the PM is asking everyone to tighten their belts to foolishly return the budget to surplus while he goes on a machines of war spending spree is ridiculous.

Also, you don't need a $135million jet to take out a terrorist. A man and a good rifle is more than sufficient. :p


The Chinese are having lots of problems with their J-20. We've been in the stealth game for a few decades now, where they're just getting into it and they stole quite a bit with hacking and from the F-117 that was shot down in the Kosovo conflict back in 1999. They are trying, but it'll be quite a while before anyone is taking a J-20 into combat... some estimates run out as far as 2020.

As far as Indonesia's Russian SU-30 Flanker, it's a good plane but it's not stealth. You might as well go with an F-15 (which is still unbeaten in combat, btw). And it hardly runs circles around the F-35.

The SU-27 is the only Russian fighter with a positive kill ratio in air-to-air combat.

Here's a nifty link comparing all of them - from Australia, no less!

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-23/joint-strike-fighters-how-australias-f-35s-fare-against-the-rest/5405664

Your man is doing the right thing and you should thank Jesus for his wisdom. The Aussies should be fighting with modern equipment instead of planes that were designed back in the '60s.

[jafar00]

Your man is doing the right thing and you should thank Jesus for his wisdom. The Aussies should be fighting with modern equipment instead of planes that were designed back in the '60s.

Fighting whom exactly?

I'd rather not be slugged with an extra 2% tax to deal with a so called budget crisis. $24billion would go a long way to fixing whatever crisis there is. A 1-2% tax will be disastrous for the Australian economy. Consumer spending and confidence will plummet and jobs will be lost.

Our govt is hell bent on returning the budget to surplus when we would operate just fine with a deficit. Look at the USA. Trillions in debt, yet the country is doing just fine despite a very high debt to GDP ratio.

[Gaffer]

Fighting whom exactly?

I'd rather not be slugged with an extra 2% tax to deal with a so called budget crisis. $24billion would go a long way to fixing whatever crisis there is. A 1-2% tax will be disastrous for the Australian economy. Consumer spending and confidence will plummet and jobs will be lost.

Our govt is hell bent on returning the budget to surplus when we would operate just fine with a deficit. Look at the USA. Trillions in debt, yet the country is doing just fine despite a very high debt to GDP ratio.

Do you run your household that way? Eventually the bill comes due. If someone borrows money from you to pay for a lavish life style and then doesn't pay you back, are you going to continue to loan him money? Having a surplus means, in case of emergency, you have the funds needed to respond.

Things work the same at an individual level and a govt level. They are just more abstract at the govt level and not as easily seen. But the results are the same.

[NightTrain]

Fighting whom exactly?

Have you looked North / Northwest from your location recently? You've got at least 3 neighbors in your neck of the woods that aren't on the Good Guy list, and two of them you're personally willing to buy military hardware from.


I'd rather not be slugged with an extra 2% tax to deal with a so called budget crisis. $24billion would go a long way to fixing whatever crisis there is. A 1-2% tax will be disastrous for the Australian economy. Consumer spending and confidence will plummet and jobs will be lost.

Get rid of your 'free' healthcare and you can easily pay for all the F-35s you want. Maybe even get a big-boy Aircraft Carrier as well.


Our govt is hell bent on returning the budget to surplus when we would operate just fine with a deficit. Look at the USA. Trillions in debt, yet the country is doing just fine despite a very high debt to GDP ratio.

Don't look to America right now for an example of how to financially run a country. Obama has no idea what he's doing and as Gaffer already pointed out, being in debt is to be avoided. We have some hard times coming to correct what he's done to the country.

You can initiate tax cuts across the board and that's when an economy really takes off. You can't tax your way to prosperity, it just doesn't work... that's something liberals and socialists just can't grasp for some reason.

When Reagan took office he was handed a pretty bleak scenario from the inept Carter (who was still smarter than Obama). Reagan cut taxes and the economy responded with over a decade of massive growth and prosperity, all the while spending stupendous amounts of money on our military which is what finally broke the USSR - they just couldn't keep up.

[jafar00]

Have you looked North / Northwest from your location recently? You've got at least 3 neighbors in your neck of the woods that aren't on the Good Guy list, and two of them you're personally willing to buy military hardware from.

But who are we at war with?


Get rid of your 'free' healthcare and you can easily pay for all the F-35s you want. Maybe even get a big-boy Aircraft Carrier as well.

I already pay a medicare levy that pays for it. A new tax will not help it.


Don't look to America right now for an example of how to financially run a country. Obama has no idea what he's doing and as Gaffer already pointed out, being in debt is to be avoided. We have some hard times coming to correct what he's done to the country.

It's not just Obama's fault. Bush also has a legacy of debt blowouts. The fact is that the US can sustain a huge debt because of it's extensive assets. Debt is also an asset. My company ran a debt for 3 years before being profitable. That previous debt is used to offset tax so we don't currently pay any tax on our profits.


You can initiate tax cuts across the board and that's when an economy really takes off. You can't tax your way to prosperity, it just doesn't work... that's something liberals and socialists just can't grasp for some reason.

Exactly. The new "debt levy" will slow our economy down, slash consumer spending and confidence, cost jobs, and stagnate our economy.

I would love a tax cut especially as fuel is set to jump 15c a litre in the next few weeks.

[Gaffer]

But who are we at war with?



I already pay a medicare levy that pays for it. A new tax will not help it.



It's not just Obama's fault. Bush also has a legacy of debt blowouts. The fact is that the US can sustain a huge debt because of it's extensive assets. Debt is also an asset. My company ran a debt for 3 years before being profitable. That previous debt is used to offset tax so we don't currently pay any tax on our profits.



Exactly. The new "debt levy" will slow our economy down, slash consumer spending and confidence, cost jobs, and stagnate our economy.

I would love a tax cut especially as fuel is set to jump 15c a litre in the next few weeks.

Govt of counties are not taxed and don't get tax benefits. They don't produce anything. They take from those that work, like you, and spend it, then take more. They can take away your tax benefits if they want to. Comparing govts to corporations is apples to peanut butter.

[fj1200]

It's not just Obama's fault. Bush also has a legacy of debt blowouts. The fact is that the US can sustain a huge debt because of it's extensive assets. Debt is also an asset. My company ran a debt for 3 years before being profitable. That previous debt is used to offset tax so we don't currently pay any tax on our profits.

Not exactly the best comparisons. The US isn't going to sell Yellowstone or Oregon to pay off some debt and you don't need to run on debt prior to profitability. Saying that you ran losses as a new start-up is probably the better statement; financing with debt is only one option. That being said I don't get to upset about debt but our future trend of deficits is the problem with entitlement spending of Social Security and Medicare projected to skyrocket.


Exactly. The new "debt levy" will slow our economy down, slash consumer spending and confidence, cost jobs, and stagnate our economy.

I would love a tax cut especially as fuel is set to jump 15c a litre in the next few weeks.

So I can I put you down in the "austerity sucks" camp? ;) And in the Supply Sider camp? :)

[fj1200]

Putin would at least have feared her!!!! --Tyr

I'm pretty sure Putin wouldn't be scared of Palin.

[jafar00]

Not exactly the best comparisons. The US isn't going to sell Yellowstone or Oregon to pay off some debt and you don't need to run on debt prior to profitability. Saying that you ran losses as a new start-up is probably the better statement; financing with debt is only one option. That being said I don't get to upset about debt but our future trend of deficits is the problem with entitlement spending of Social Security and Medicare projected to skyrocket.

All I'm saying is that Australia doesn't need to be in surplus and any Austerity measures and doom and gloom to try and get back into surplus ASAP are misguided. Australia's economy is not in dire straights. We don't have a stable AAA credit rating for nothing. We certainly don't need a stupid extra tax to slow the economy down.


So I can I put you down in the "austerity sucks" camp? ;) And in the Supply Sider camp? :)

Yes, Austerity sux when it is not even needed. :p

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I'm pretty sure Putin wouldn't be scared of Palin.

Dictator are always scared of that kind of person. For they represent opposition not just to evil itself but more directly to men that are evil!!! Trust me on this tidbit of wisdom.
His as would be scared of the power she could unleash if she were President. Its called the U.S. military ..
And it packs a kickass punch when "truly unleashed"!! --Tyr

[fj1200]

All I'm saying is that Australia doesn't need to be in surplus and any Austerity measures and doom and gloom to try and get back into surplus ASAP are misguided. Australia's economy is not in dire straights. We don't have a stable AAA credit rating for nothing. We certainly don't need a stupid extra tax to slow the economy down.

Yes, Austerity sux when it is not even needed. :p

You must have some Thatcherites down there or sumthin'. :eek:

[fj1200]

Dictator are always scared of that kind of person.

The kind that throw red meat to the masses in a speech?

[NightTrain]

The kind that throw red meat to the masses in a speech?


You have to admit - the whole 'baptizing' thing is pretty funny.

[jafar00]

On reading around about Palin's baptising terrorists speech, the general consensus is that she is a loony that has lost what few marbles she had left.

Here are a couple of examples.

The end of Sarah Palin (http://theweek.com/article/index/260648/the-end-of-sarah-palin)

Man, (http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-sacrilegious-sarah-palin/)the 12 minute speech Sarah Palin gave to the NRA convention (http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/sarah-palin-waterboarding-is-how-we-baptize-terrorists/) is awful. It’s just witless, red-meat blathering, delivered in that nasal whine of hers that makes it sound like she’s chewing wads of tinfoil. For people who like this sort of thing, this is the sort of thing they like. (http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-sacrilegious-sarah-palin/)

[NightTrain]

On reading around about Palin's baptising terrorists speech, the general consensus is that she is a loony that has lost what few marbles she had left.

Weren't you just saying that you think all terrorists should be killed?

Don't you think we should waterboard them before execution to see what kind of useful information they might have?

First you say you're against terrorism, now you're concerned for their well-being.

You're not really being honest with us, are you, Jafar? You seem to waffle back and forth a great deal regarding terrorists.




For people that like this sort of thing, this is the sort of thing they like.

You've got me there, Jafar. I just can't argue with that.

[jafar00]

Weren't you just saying that you think all terrorists should be killed?

Don't you think we should waterboard them before execution to see what kind of useful information they might have?

First you say you're against terrorism, now you're concerned for their well-being.

You're not really being honest with us, are you, Jafar? You seem to waffle back and forth a great deal regarding terrorists.

If you want to be known for torture then so be it. Evidence obtained by torture is still inadmissible in court, and making it official policy sends you down that slippery slope to being even less human than a brainwashed zombie who drives a car bomb into a market then blows himself up in front of children.

[NightTrain]

If you want to be known for torture then so be it. Evidence obtained by torture is still inadmissible in court, and making it official policy sends you down that slippery slope to being even less human than a brainwashed zombie who drives a car bomb into a market then blows himself up in front of children.


I'm just curious as to what you think.

Should the apprehended terrorists be summarily executed or should information be extracted from them prior to their timely death in order to foil further plots and save innocent lives?

[defectiverepresentative]

It's easier to fight for your principles than to live up to them.

It's easy to take an agressive stance on an external threat. She definitely gained a couple of supporters but shall we stoop down to the level of our enemies?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

It's easier to fight for your principles than to live up to them.

It's easy to take an agressive stance on an external threat. She definitely gained a couple of supporters but shall we stoop down to the level of our enemies?

Those that fail to stand up against their enemy usually end up as dead as Napoleon!!!!

What's easy about it when the government's third arm (sold out liberal media) is going to tar and feather you for standing against their beloved dictator and his socialist agenda ?? For standing against the ally of the dems== the Islamists????

For daring to speak power and authority to baptize with water??
Soak the murdering weasels for the bath they haven't had in year or two!!!!

Stay here and we can play a tad more.....
By the way--WELCOME!!

Truth takes no prisoners.... :laugh:--Tyr

[defectiverepresentative]

Thanks for the warm welcome ;).

I didn't imply that we should lay down on the tracks and wait for the next train. We shouldn't need to demonstrate our strength by waving our guns around. It's a fact that we are the most powerful nation on the planet and the trivial information we lose by opposing torture isn't going to detract from our strength.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Thanks for the warm welcome ;).

I didn't imply that we should lay down on the tracks and wait for the next train. We shouldn't need to demonstrate our strength by waving our guns around. It's a fact that we are the most powerful nation on the planet and the trivial information we lose by opposing torture isn't going to detract from our strength.




We shouldn't need to demonstrate our strength by waving our guns around.

So right, time has come that we should have already revolted peacefully. And when the government lowered the hammer on us , only then defended this nation, it;s Constitution with the 2nd Amendment tools we still have..-Tyr

[jafar00]

I'm just curious as to what you think.

Should the apprehended terrorists be summarily executed or should information be extracted from them prior to their timely death in order to foil further plots and save innocent lives?

You should sit them down with a well credentialed Sheikh and have him show them the error of their ways, renounce violence, and return to the Islamic path. Once that is done, they would be more likely to rat out their compadres so they can be given the same guidance. Bombs, invasions and shady torture techniques are counter productive.

[Drummond]

You should sit them down with a well credentialed Sheikh and have him show them the error of their ways, renounce violence, and return to the Islamic path. Once that is done, they would be more likely to rat out their compadres so they can be given the same guidance. Bombs, invasions and shady torture techniques are counter productive.

Have you ever considered telling Hamas any of this ?

Just thought I'd ask ...:rolleyes:

[gabosaurus]

If Palin speaks such a "powerful truth," why are so many Christian groups criticizing her for it?
As always, Palin utters whatever idiocy will get her noticed. Does anyone care about what she says anymore?

[Drummond]

If Palin speaks such a "powerful truth," why are so many Christian groups criticizing her for it?
As always, Palin utters whatever idiocy will get her noticed. Does anyone care about what she says anymore?

Well, Gabby, YOU care enough to get involved with this thread .....

... not that I'm complaining. Any politician of true stature deserves the proper attention.

Give it your best, Gabby .... :rolleyes:

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Well, Gabby, YOU care enough to get involved with this thread .....

... not that I'm complaining. Any politician of true stature deserves the proper attention.

Give it your best, Gabby .... :rolleyes:


The left cares... They always bust ass trying to ridicule her--because she speaks too damn much truth about them.-Tyr

[NightTrain]

You should sit them down with a well credentialed Sheikh and have him show them the error of their ways, renounce violence, and return to the Islamic path. Once that is done, they would be more likely to rat out their compadres so they can be given the same guidance. Bombs, invasions and shady torture techniques are counter productive.


So you propose that we go catch these terrorists doing terroristy deeds, take them alive & unharmed, and take them to a Sheikh for islamic re-education? That seems a little far fetched, don't you think?

I do like the idea that you think a high-ranking muslim might be able to show them the error of their ways, however.

What kind of program can be implemented to have your fellow muslims approach them and show them why they're wrong in radicalizing islam like they are?

Surely you yourself could safely approach and have a civilized conversation with them; whereas they'd simply shoot at any American coming to haul them off to a Sheikh.

Failing that, why isn't there airtime bought on Al-Jazeera or similar muzzie network with a prominent Sheikh telling millions of them that they're wrong in what they're doing? Why is there no organized effort to reign in your radicals?

[Jeff]

Well, Gabby, YOU care enough to get involved with this thread .....

... not that I'm complaining. Any politician of true stature deserves the proper attention.

Give it your best, Gabby .... :rolleyes:


The left cares... They always bust ass trying to ridicule her--because she speaks too damn much truth about them.-Tyr


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