And they declare jihad if Koran is burned?!?

[SassyLady]

No respect for historical artifacts. I'm speechless.


Shocking moment ISIS militants take sledgehammers to Mosul tomb of Prophet Jonah as more than 50 blindfolded bodies are found massacred south of Baghdad

ISIS militants filmed taking sledgehammers to tombstones in Mosul, Iraq

Donning balaclavas and black clothing, they swung weapons into tombs
One grave belonged to Prophet Jonah, revered by Muslims and Christians
Rebels believe special veneration of tombs is against teachings of Islam

Comes as more than 50 bodies have been found in city south of Baghdad
Most of the bodies were blindfolded with gunshot wounds, said authorities
Investigation is underway to establish the circumstances of the killings



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[SassyLady]

Another example of Islamic terrorism. If they had been able to follow through on this, the Middle East would become a glass factory.




Islamist plot to blow up Eiffel Tower, Louvre and nuclear power plant foiled, say French policeFrench police stumbled on terror plans after decrypting coded messages between Algerian butcher living in southern France and high-ranking members of al-Qaeda in the Maghreb

[Gaffer]

Another example of Islamic terrorism. If they had been able to follow through on this, the Middle East would become a glass factory.

It's going to take something of this magnitude to wake the rest of world up to the threat of islam.

[Kathianne]

It's going to take something of this magnitude to wake the rest of world up to the threat of islam.

I don't know Gaffer, 9/11 and 7/11 didn't do that-both were of major magnitude. Seems to me that the world may be just determined to pretend it's fat and happy.

[jimnyc]

I think Jafar recently posted something about them wanting to go to Saudi Arabia and destroy ka'aba (spelling?). They won't even win any Muslim friends if they continue this.

[fj1200]

No respect for historical artifacts. I'm speechless.

Taliban part deux.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/03/19/world/19TALI.html

[Daniyel]

The Muslims(Arabs) are somewhat lack of sensitivity, El-Aksa(The mosque) is built upon the most sacred place for the Jewish - Temple Mount, and I also heard about an ongoing project to build a mosque in Ground Zero as American abstains from religious as democracy it is probably one of the most vulnerable place for most Americans.

[aboutime]

Anyone remember September 11, 2001?

Anyone care to remember the warnings all of us SHOULD have paid more attention to following that day, about OBL declaring war on the West, and intentionally training terrorists to NOT STOP until America, Americans, and all Westerners are DEAD?

Seems everybody was more interested in calling Bush, or anyone who listened to him A MONKEY, or other Democrat,Leftist, Hateful names and laughing at him.


SO. How did all of that MUD SLINGING, and NAME CALLING work out?

Names like OBAMA, HOLDER, REID, PELOSI....and HILLARY, with her friend BEN Ghazi, ring any bells?

Seems that constantly repeated adage/warning about

"Failing to Remember History, and being Doomed to Repeat it"

Actually had some substance about now?

(a quote from aboutime)

[jafar00]

Leaders and Muslims of the Islamic world condemn ISIS as unislamic and terrorists, yet you continue to call them Islamic.

We've already rejected them. Why don't you? Even Al Qaeda and Al Nusra who are also terrorists, condemned them.

[aboutime]

Leaders and Muslims of the Islamic world condemn ISIS as unislamic and terrorists, yet you continue to call them Islamic.

We've already rejected them. Why don't you? Even Al Qaeda and Al Nusra who are also terrorists, condemned them.


jafar. There you go again with your 'double-speak' propaganda.

How bout this?

How bout YOU be honest with us and CONDEMN Hamas, Hezbolla, Al Qaeda, and Al Nusri (who you seem to be defending in your own...dishonest way, by claiming they condemn ISIS?)
The way you bring this to us, seems to just skip over your support for AQ and Al Nusri...because you insist they are somehow DIFFERENT terrorists???

Really? Bout time to re-format your Propaganda machine.

[NightTrain]

jafar. There you go again with your 'double-speak' propaganda.

How bout this?

How bout YOU be honest with us and CONDEMN Hamas, Hezbolla, Al Qaeda, and Al Nusri (who you seem to be defending in your own...dishonest way, by claiming they condemn ISIS?)
The way you bring this to us, seems to just skip over your support for AQ and Al Nusri...because you insist they are somehow DIFFERENT terrorists???

Really? Bout time to re-format your Propaganda machine.

Apparently, some muslim terrorists are okay and others are not.

Back to the OP... remember when the Taliban blew up those ancient stone Buddhas in Afghanistan because it didn't fit in with islam? Truly a tragedy and these historical sites are now gone forever.

This sort of behavior is as bad as when the Great Library was burned by Caesar... lost to the world forevermore.

[SassyLady]

Leaders and Muslims of the Islamic world condemn ISIS as unislamic and terrorists, yet you continue to call them Islamic.

We've already rejected them. Why don't you? Even Al Qaeda and Al Nusra who are also terrorists, condemned them.

Really, Jafar. What do the initials I.S.I.S. represent?


Islamic State of Iraq and Al Sham

[Gaffer]

Yeah, they're not islamic, it's just in their first name.

[Daniyel]

There are within our world a moderated Muslims which are by the way a great people, not the known warmongers and definitely not terrorists, yet they are minority as the popularity of terrorism raise over 3rd world countries baring the name of 'Islam' making the moderated believers a rare crowd and radicals, banishing them away from governments and the media.

[red state]

Jafart should provide a big ole FAT thanks for the post just above. Perhaps these minorities are the REAL muSLUMS but I doubt it. I truly don't believe ANYTHING good comes or could possibly come from this cult that derived from the moon god. But that is just me and millions of other folks who feel this way out of observation and accumulated wisdom over the years. At least the post above was respectful and not trollish so for that alone.....I'll give an un-official thanks to the post just before mine. THANKS!

Daniyel, don't get your hopes up in getting a thanks from jafart......he only disagrees that the majority is good and the minority are the ones who make up I.S.I.S. And for the record, I hope I read your post correctly. I don't agree to 100% of what you said but your presented your views properly and without the twists that jafart couldn't get past old Aboutime.

I appreciate AT calling jafart out but I truly wish he'd simply hit the ban button on 'that one'. HA!!!

[jafar00]

jafar. There you go again with your 'double-speak' propaganda.

How bout this?

How bout YOU be honest with us and CONDEMN Hamas, Hezbolla, Al Qaeda, and Al Nusri (who you seem to be defending in your own...dishonest way, by claiming they condemn ISIS?)
The way you bring this to us, seems to just skip over your support for AQ and Al Nusri...because you insist they are somehow DIFFERENT terrorists???

Really? Bout time to re-format your Propaganda machine.

I've already condemned Hezbollah, AQ, Nusra and all other groups of misfits who don't care who they kill or how or why they do it on many occasions. I've also condemned some of Hamas's actions as unislamic. What more do you want from me?!?!


Really, Jafar. What do the initials I.S.I.S. represent?


Islamic State of Iraq and Al Sham

I'm declare that I am now to be called CABNOS. CAtholic Bishop of NOrth Sydney.

Am I Catholic now? :P

Why do you support the claims of terrorists?


There are within our world a moderated Muslims which are by the way a great people, not the known warmongers and definitely not terrorists, yet they are minority as the popularity of terrorism raise over 3rd world countries baring the name of 'Islam' making the moderated believers a rare crowd and radicals, banishing them away from governments and the media.

Believe me we are not a rarity. You are spreading lies.

There are even polls if you like playing the numbers game.

http://www.pewglobal.org/files/2014/06/PG-2014-07-01-islamic-extremism-03.png

Add to that, results of a survey using FBI data, terrorism committed by Muslims accounts for a fraction of terrorist acts committed on US soil.

Based on the data, you should be more worried about Jewish terrorism than Muslim since Jews have been responsible for twice as many attacks!


Based on our review of the approximately 2,400 terrorist attacks on U.S. soil contained within the START database, we determined that approximately 60 were carried out by Muslims.
In other words, approximately 2.5% (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=60+is+what+percent+of+2%2C400%3F) of all terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1970 and 2012 were carried out by Muslims.* This is a tiny proportion of all attacks.
(We determined that approximately 118 of the terror attacks – or 4.9% (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=118+is+what+percent+of+2%2C400%3F) – were carried out by Jewish groups such as Jewish Armed Resistance, the Jewish Defense League, Jewish Action Movement, United Jewish Underground and Thunder of Zion. This is almost twice the percentage of Islamic attacks within the United States. In addition, there were approximately 168 attacks – or 7% (http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=168+is+what+percent+of+2%2C400%3F) – by anti-abortion activists, who tend to be Christian. Fuerzas Armadas de Liberacion Nacional – a Puerto Rican paramilitary organization - carried out more than 120 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuerzas_Armadas_de_Liberaci%C3%B3n_Nacional_Puerto rrique%C3%B1a) bomb attacks on U.S. targets between 1974 and 1983, and there were some 41 attacks by Cuban exiles, and a number of attacks by other Latin American groups. If we look at worldwide attacks – instead of just attacks on U.S. soil – Sunni Muslims (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/04/the-u-s-is-engaged-in-a-muslim-religious-war-on-the-side-of-the-muslim-jihadis.html) are the main perpetrators of terrorism. However: 1. Muslims are also the main victims of terror attacks worldwide; and 2. the U.S. backs the most radical types of Sunnis over more moderate Muslims and Arab secularists (http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/04/the-u-s-is-engaged-in-a-muslim-religious-war-on-the-side-of-the-muslim-jihadis.html).)
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/05/muslims-only-carried-out-2-5-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-on-u-s-soil-between-1970-and-2012.html
The situation is even more telling in Europe.

http://i1.wp.com/www.loonwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/barchart-copy-502x502-custom.jpg?resize=502%2C502

Europol Report: All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 99.6% that Aren’t (http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/)
So, saying the majority of us are terrorists or support terrorists is disingenuous at best.

[Daniyel]

I Believe what I see with my very own eyes, 10-15 of the Arabs I met in Israel/London/US would actually not just attack me for being Jewish and that's a progress my friend.
however the sad number is much higher because I witness daily Arabs half of my age raging for my death, now you can deny it saying they are Palestinians so this debate is purposeless, point agreed.
All Arabs I met from Turkish(muslims), Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Dubai, US, Pakistan came with a questions like "how many palestinians have you killed?" "how do you prepare for the boycott against the israeli crimes in gaza?" and so on, eventually we became friends, now let me ask you this, who capable of controlling the crowd during riots? and how every normal Arab person read their news, is it Arabic?

[Drummond]

I've already condemned Hezbollah, AQ, Nusra and all other groups of misfits who don't care who they kill or how or why they do it on many occasions. I've also condemned some of Hamas's actions as unislamic. What more do you want from me?!?!

On Hamas, Jafar ... it seems from this that you neither wholly support Hamas, NOR wholly condemn them !!

This is in line with your long-standing avoidance of outright, unequivocal condemnation of them in the past, of course.

Hamas are A TERRORIST GROUP. Yet, from your statement above, it seems that you find something about this TERRORIST GROUP to be 'Islamic'.

So you need to make your mind up about this. Is this TERRORIST GROUP, Islamic .. or not ?

BITE THE BULLET AND GIVE A CLEAR 'YES' OR 'NO'.


The situation is even more telling in Europe.

http://i1.wp.com/www.loonwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/barchart-copy-502x502-custom.jpg?resize=502%2C502

Europol Report: All Terrorists are Muslims…Except the 99.6% that Aren’t (http://www.loonwatch.com/2010/01/terrorism-in-europe/)


So, saying the majority of us are terrorists or support terrorists is disingenuous at best.

I see that your graph covers 2006 to 2008 ?

That's a nice choice of years.

How about 2004, then, and the Atocha train station bombing ? Falls outside of your graph's span, doesn't it ?

How about 2005, and the London bombings, in July of that year ? Again ... falls outside of your graph's span .. eh, Jafar ?

Nicely done. A pity that this ploy was quite so transparent, however ....

And try this out ...

http://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2013/11/24/statistics-21-of-british-muslims-believe-suicide-bombings-are-justified/


I summarized two surveys of British Muslim attitudes yesterday at “British Opinion Surveys from an Islamist Hell (http://www.danielpipes.org/2797/british-opinion-surveys-from-an-islamist-hell).” Wouldn’t you know it, but a third one came out today, commissioned by the Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1536118,00.html)newspaper and carried out by ICM (http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews/2005/Guardian%20-%20muslims%20july05/Guardian%20Muslims%20jul05.asp). Its results basically confirm the prior two. Some highlights:

Muslims who believe that “foreign Muslims who incite hatred should be … allowed to live in the UK”: 38 percent.
Who agree that “ordinary Muslims … should not do more work with the police to root out extremists from the Muslim community”: 8 percent.
Find it acceptable “for religious or political groups to use violence for political ends”: 4 percent.
Support the July 7 attacks and say more such attacks are justified: 5 percent.

But the question in this poll that rightly received the most attention was this one: “In light of recent events, have you considered whether or not you want to remain in the UK?” To this, 63 percent of respondents said yes, 34 percent no, and 3 percent did not know. Those 35 or over are slightly more negative than those under 35, with 67 percent of the former contemplating an exodus and only 61 percent of the latter.

Muslims like it here ! But significant numbers simultaneously support terrorist attacks, and terrorist inciters.

Perhaps they feel too much at home here. Because the UK offers them much ? Like, way too much tolerance of hatemongers ?

[stevecanuck]

Really, Jafar. What do the initials I.S.I.S. represent?


Islamic State of Iraq and Al Sham

They've shortened it to IS now. It's simply Islamic State. I guess Bill Clinton's remark has finally been answered, and we now know what the meaning of IS is.

[SassyLady]

I've already condemned Hezbollah, AQ, Nusra and all other groups of misfits who don't care who they kill or how or why they do it on many occasions. I've also condemned some of Hamas's actions as unislamic. What more do you want from me?!?!

Perhaps you can list some actions taken by Hamas that ARE actions of your Islam.

[SassyLady]

They've shortened it to IS now. It's simply Islamic State. I guess Bill Clinton's remark has finally been answered, and we now know what the meaning of IS is.

Yep, I heard they did that. Guess they didn't want to limit themselves to just Iraq.

[SassyLady]

Jafar,

What I find ironic is how people like yourself fall back on the "peaceful Muslim" so that you don't have to take a forceful stand against those that are corrupting your faith.

You will let the slaughter of non believers happen because it ultimately furthers your own goals. So, forgive those of us that refuse to believe you condemn the IS until you actually do something about it.

[Gaffer]

Perhaps you can list some actions taken by Hamas that ARE actions of your Islam.

That's the problem I have in believing anything he says. How can he condemn some of their actions and support others? The goal of islam is not to save mankind, it's to conquer and destroy, to rule mankind. The destruction of the Jews is paramount in islam and the hamas code. If you press him on it he sings, dances, and spins away.

[Daniyel]

The reason I say the majority of Muslim Arabs are radicals is that every act of violence excused with religious, the Islam, I never heard of Christian Arabs suicide bombing although they share motives of family honor with the Muslim Arabs.
The only society in the world that encourage by religious acts terror is the Islam, I don't say everyone supports it, not at all, but I do say that all the supporters of violence and mass killing base it on religious and they are the majority of the Arab Muslims from 3rd world countries as Iraq, Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, 'Palestine', and what else.
SEE the difference.
This is what we consider Jewish act of terror:
http://a7.org/pictures/309/309368.jpg

This is Muslim act of terror:
http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/399/cache/september-9-11-attacks-anniversary-ground-zero-world-trade-center-pentagon-flight-93-second-airplane-wtc_39997_600x450.jpg


none of the world support acts of violence by religious in these times, we can debate about the past, but its just the way it is as Hamas gain popularity in Gaza although it is clear they are not focusing over educations, health, financial aspects or politics, their motto for the election is DEATH TO ISRAEL.

Peace.

[jafar00]

I Believe what I see with my very own eyes, 10-15 of the Arabs I met in Israel/London/US would actually not just attack me for being Jewish and that's a progress my friend.
however the sad number is much higher because I witness daily Arabs half of my age raging for my death, now you can deny it saying they are Palestinians so this debate is purposeless, point agreed.
All Arabs I met from Turkish(muslims), Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, Dubai, US, Pakistan came with a questions like "how many palestinians have you killed?" "how do you prepare for the boycott against the israeli crimes in gaza?" and so on, eventually we became friends, now let me ask you this, who capable of controlling the crowd during riots? and how every normal Arab person read their news, is it Arabic?

I've got news for you. Turks, and Pakistanis and quite a few American Muslims are not Arab :p


Perhaps you can list some actions taken by Hamas that ARE actions of your Islam.

I honestly don't follow them too closely other than to condemn them when they fall foul of Islamically acceptable actions.


Jafar,

What I find ironic is how people like yourself fall back on the "peaceful Muslim" so that you don't have to take a forceful stand against those that are corrupting your faith.

You will let the slaughter of non believers happen because it ultimately furthers your own goals. So, forgive those of us that refuse to believe you condemn the IS until you actually do something about it.

What else do you suggest I do about it apart from letting it be known I oppose them? Strap on a belt of ammo and go vigilante with an M60? I could join the Police or Army but I like my current salary better.


The reason I say the majority of Muslim Arabs are radicals is that every act of violence excused with religious, the Islam, I never heard of Christian Arabs suicide bombing although they share motives of family honor with the Muslim Arabs.
The only society in the world that encourage by religious acts terror is the Islam, I don't say everyone supports it, not at all, but I do say that all the supporters of violence and mass killing base it on religious and they are the majority of the Arab Muslims from 3rd world countries as Iraq, Pakistan, Iran, Afghanistan, 'Palestine', and what else.
SEE the difference.
This is what we consider Jewish act of terror:
http://a7.org/pictures/309/309368.jpg

This is Muslim act of terror:
http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/399/cache/september-9-11-attacks-anniversary-ground-zero-world-trade-center-pentagon-flight-93-second-airplane-wtc_39997_600x450.jpg


none of the world support acts of violence by religious in these times, we can debate about the past, but its just the way it is as Hamas gain popularity in Gaza although it is clear they are not focusing over educations, health, financial aspects or politics, their motto for the election is DEATH TO ISRAEL.

Peace.

Can you explain what makes the 9/11 attacks Islamic? My information says those attacks were not and we and all of our Islamic leaders condemned it unequivocally, over and over again.

[Daniyel]

I've got news for you. Turks, and Pakistanis and quite a few American Muslims are not Arab :p



I honestly don't follow them too closely other than to condemn them when they fall foul of Islamically acceptable actions.



What else do you suggest I do about it apart from letting it be known I oppose them? Strap on a belt of ammo and go vigilante with an M60? I could join the Police or Army but I like my current salary better.



Can you explain what makes the 9/11 attacks Islamic? My information says those attacks were not and we and all of our Islamic leaders condemned it unequivocally, over and over again.
I Guess it makes the number of the "moderated" Arabs I met even lower, sadly, Although I met few MUSLIMS from Turkish and Pakistan that came to America and London themselves, so they are also MUSLIMS if not Arabs.
Al Qaeda - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda
By the name of the Islam, and if I was Prime Minister of Morocco for example I also would condemned it, the benefit of 'not-pissing-off-america' is very clear when the US stormed Iraq..

[Drummond]

I honestly don't follow them too closely other than to condemn them when they fall foul of Islamically acceptable actions.

What else do you suggest I do about it apart from letting it be known I oppose them? Strap on a belt of ammo and go vigilante with an M60? I could join the Police or Army but I like my current salary better.

What you COULD do, Jafar, and what you've avoided doing on this forum for ages, is come up with a statement showing us that you totally, completely and utterly, condemn what Hamas DO, and what Hamas IS.

After all, Hamas is a terrorist organisation !!! WHY is is so hard for someone like myself to pin you down to an unequivocal statement of condemnation for, and rejection of, Hamas ???


Can you explain what makes the 9/11 attacks Islamic? My information says those attacks were not and we and all of our Islamic leaders condemned it unequivocally, over and over again.

The attacks were committed by Islamic terrorists. Those terrorists committed their acts in the furtherance of Islamic-promoting goals.

Can you honestly say that if America was an Islamic country, those attacks would've still been committed ? NO ... Al Qaeda committed them against a country it considered (or claimed, anyway ..) to be 'The Great Satan'. Why ? Because all that America IS, all she REPRESENTS, is diametrically opposed to the Islamic goals Al Qaeda is fighting for.

That they're just murdering scum is, of course, an important factor as well ....

[jafar00]

I Guess it makes the number of the "moderated" Arabs I met even lower, sadly, Although I met few MUSLIMS from Turkish and Pakistan that came to America and London themselves, so they are also MUSLIMS if not Arabs.
Al Qaeda - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qaeda
By the name of the Islam, and if I was Prime Minister of Morocco for example I also would condemned it, the benefit of 'not-pissing-off-america' is very clear when the US stormed Iraq..

What's Al Qaeda got to do with it?


What you COULD do, Jafar, and what you've avoided doing on this forum for ages, is come up with a statement showing us that you totally, completely and utterly, condemn what Hamas DO, and what Hamas IS.

After all, Hamas is a terrorist organisation !!! WHY is is so hard for someone like myself to pin you down to an unequivocal statement of condemnation for, and rejection of, Hamas ???

There you go again. Like a broken record. I'm not going to keep repeating myself if you keep putting your fingers in your ears and shout "lalalallaaalala I can't hear you lalalalalala".


The attacks were committed by Islamic terrorists. Those terrorists committed their acts in the furtherance of Islamic-promoting goals.

Islamic terrorist is an Oxymoron. I've said that before too, along with the scriptural evidence to prove it. You still ignore it so what's the point arguing with you?


Can you honestly say that if America was an Islamic country, those attacks would've still been committed ? NO ... Al Qaeda committed them against a country it considered (or claimed, anyway ..) to be 'The Great Satan'. Why ? Because all that America IS, all she REPRESENTS, is diametrically opposed to the Islamic goals Al Qaeda is fighting for.

That they're just murdering scum is, of course, an important factor as well ....

Why not? The likes of AQ, Nusra, ISIS, Boko Haram or whatever you want to call scum, spend 99.99999% of their time terrorising and killing Muslims anyway.

[SassyLady]

Jafar, you said that SOME Hamas actions are unIslamic. All I asked is that you list the ones that are Islamic.

Surely you follow their actions enough to know the difference or you wouldn't condemn SOME of their actions and not all of them unless you knew of some that are Islamic.

Please list those that are Islamic per your definition.

[Jeff]

I've got news for you. Turks, and Pakistanis and quite a few American Muslims are not Arab :p



I honestly don't follow them too closely other than to condemn them when they fall foul of Islamically acceptable actions.

I have seen you post in support of them here, I would look some of your post up but everyone already knows


What else do you suggest I do about it apart from letting it be known I oppose them? Strap on a belt of ammo and go vigilante with an M60? I could join the Police or Army but I like my current salary better.

If you strapped a bomb to your back then you would be a real Muslim !


Can you explain what makes the 9/11 attacks Islamic? My information says those attacks were not and we and all of our Islamic leaders condemned it unequivocally, over and over again.

I guess the rag heads that attacked that morning weren't real Muslims :rolleyes: Enough with the BS jafar. you either are or aren't a terrorist , no I am not saying you kill people , but remember this, if you support terrorist you are our enemy !!!

[Drummond]

There you go again. Like a broken record. I'm not going to keep repeating myself if you keep putting your fingers in your ears and shout "lalalallaaalala I can't hear you lalalalalala".

What are you talking about ??

I'm not asking you to repeat yourself ! Why would I, when you always find some way of failing to fully commit yourself to total opposition to Hamas ?

That you've been critical of them .. and then, only when prodded into it !! .. is known. That you find ways to fall short of outright UNEQUIVOCAL condemnation is also known.


Islamic terrorist is an Oxymoron. I've said that before too, along with the scriptural evidence to prove it. You still ignore it so what's the point arguing with you?

Islamic terrorism is an oxymoron, is it ? OK then ... Hamas is a terrorist organisation, and they're busily committing more terrorism against Israel. Therefore, for your propaganda to make consistent sense, they cannot be Islamic (though they themselves claim very much the opposite).

So, how is it that they EVER do things that are - ACCORDING TO YOU - ISLAMIC ??

Sassylady has asked you about this aspect of them, in response to your own posting, with ...


Perhaps you can list some actions taken by Hamas that ARE actions of your Islam.

To remind you: this was YOUR posting, Jafar ...


I've already condemned Hezbollah, AQ, Nusra and all other groups of misfits who don't care who they kill or how or why they do it on many occasions. I've also condemned some of Hamas's actions as unislamic.
SOME .. NOT ALL.

I look forward to your answer, Jafar .....

[jafar00]

I guess the rag heads that attacked that morning weren't real Muslims :rolleyes: Enough with the BS jafar. you either are or aren't a terrorist , no I am not saying you kill people , but remember this, if you support terrorist you are our enemy !!!

Islam condemns their actions and all terrorists to hellfire, yet you continued to spout this BS.

[Drummond]

Islam condemns their actions and all terrorists to hellfire, yet you continued to spout this BS.

An encouraging answer, Jafar.

Now, how do you answer my own post ? Or, if you prefer, how do you answer SassyLady's own posts ?

[aboutime]

Islam condemns their actions and all terrorists to hellfire, yet you continued to spout this BS.



jafar. How can any of us be accused of spouting..."what you call BS" when you are the LONE defender of HAMAS and their terrorist techniques we read about as 'ROCKET ATTACKS' on Isreal??????

[jafar00]

What are you talking about ??

I'm not asking you to repeat yourself ! Why would I, when you always find some way of failing to fully commit yourself to total opposition to Hamas ?

That you've been critical of them .. and then, only when prodded into it !! .. is known. That you find ways to fall short of outright UNEQUIVOCAL condemnation is also known.



Islamic terrorism is an oxymoron, is it ? OK then ... Hamas is a terrorist organisation, and they're busily committing more terrorism against Israel. Therefore, for your propaganda to make consistent sense, they cannot be Islamic (though they themselves claim very much the opposite).

So, how is it that they EVER do things that are - ACCORDING TO YOU - ISLAMIC ??

You keep saying "Islamic" terrorism, yet you never provide proof of that accusation. Prove that Islam approves of terrorism, then you can describe it as Islamic.

[Daniyel]

[/B]You keep saying "Islamic" terrorism, yet you never provide proof of that accusation. Prove that Islam approves of terrorism, then you can describe it as Islamic.
Islam is about 10 commands as I know, you both talking indirectly about the same subject.
He means that all major terrorist activities against others carried by Muslims that justified it by Islam, and for a reason (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T79qrSFh9dA), basing it on Shariah term of Jihad.
KKK also considered a terrorist organization but they relay their acts on the bible and Christ.
Jewish Underground is also considered as a terrorist organization and they justify it on the Judaism as sick as it sounds.
I also consider Atheism as a religion and their terrorist organization was known as the Nazis.
The rest of the 'Terror' acts are not by religious belief but also considered terror by nature since terror definition is to achieve political goal by the use of violence.
Leftists or radical groups does it and don't talk about anything related to religion, Terror and violence is real, but for example what you considered as Terrorist Organization Lehi (we both agree on that) didn't really care about Judaism, they wanted to retaliate both British and Arabs without care about the Jewish life and they didn't relayed it on any religion, but on personal perspective for justice as insane as it sounds.
I hope I got you guys step forward :coffee:

[jafar00]

Islam is about 10 commands as I know, you both talking indirectly about the same subject.
He means that all major terrorist activities against others carried by Muslims that justified it by Islam, and for a reason (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T79qrSFh9dA), basing it on Shariah term of Jihad.
KKK also considered a terrorist organization but they relay their acts on the bible and Christ.
Jewish Underground is also considered as a terrorist organization and they justify it on the Judaism as sick as it sounds.
I also consider Atheism as a religion and their terrorist organization was known as the Nazis.
The rest of the 'Terror' acts are not by religious belief but also considered terror by nature since terror definition is to achieve political goal by the use of violence.
Leftists or radical groups does it and don't talk about anything related to religion, Terror and violence is real, but for example what you considered as Terrorist Organization Lehi (we both agree on that) didn't really care about Judaism, they wanted to retaliate both British and Arabs without care about the Jewish life and they didn't relayed it on any religion, but on personal perspective for justice as insane as it sounds.
I hope I got you guys step forward :coffee:

Show me one example of where Islam condones terrorist activity. You can't.

[Daniyel]

Show me one example of where Islam condones terrorist activity. You can't.
I never said ISLAM condones it, I said PEOPLE EXCUSE it by the Islam term of Jihad.
Common Jafar, my friend once found a dick covered with Sellotape in a suicide bomb area which all remained entirely from the terrorist, this is the definition of insanity yet people continue doing so.
72 Virgins or "last word" revenge, I take it as pure insanity to struggle with suicide bombs and call it "a struggle in the way of Allah" and neither to be considered as Saint (Sha'hid)

[Jeff]

Islam condemns their actions and all terrorists to hellfire, yet you continued to spout this BS.

jafar it is you filled with BS, and it is you that spews it every chance you can, I have said what I have to say and you can call it what ever you want but I am now done with this argument ( remember I actually tried to understand your trash way back but the lies just got to deep for me ) So you keep on spewing trash and I guess others will continue debate you with it, as for me I will continue to warn people about the scum you call the religion of peace before it is to late.

[jimnyc]

[/B]You keep saying "Islamic" terrorism, yet you never provide proof of that accusation. Prove that Islam approves of terrorism, then you can describe it as Islamic.

Then I guess Palestine is not Islamic, as they support terrorism, vote for it and keep it running smoothly. And you sympathize and give aid by indirectly supporting them, condoning them, understanding them and refusing to entirely condemn them and get rid of them.

[jimnyc]

Show me one example of where Islam condones terrorist activity. You can't.

When is Islam as a whole going to stand up as a group and go in and get rid of Hamas? Taliban? Al Qaeda? Or are the "billions" of peaceful Muslims not enough to defeat them? The book may not condone them, but apparently everyone reading it does.

[aboutime]

Show me one example of where Islam condones terrorist activity. You can't.

jafar. Another planned propaganda trick from you that...DIDN'T WORK.

You asked for one example when you KNEW. Anyone who worships Islam, or Muslim teachings is FORBIDDEN from expressing, exposing, complaining, talking about, writing about, or daring to share knowledge of TERRORIST activity....IS PUNISHABLE BY DEATH.

In other words. You feel confident in asking that question knowing....SILENCE is the silent protector for anyone who dares...DISAGREE with those Islamic, or Muslim teachings.

Go ahead and feel free to DISPUTE what I said.

[jafar00]

When is Islam as a whole going to stand up as a group and go in and get rid of Hamas? Taliban? Al Qaeda? Or are the "billions" of peaceful Muslims not enough to defeat them? The book may not condone them, but apparently everyone reading it does.

Give us $3b a year in military aid along with other assistance (like intel support) and we might think about it :p Or do you expect us to do it with sticks, stones and a few AKs we pick up along the way?



You asked for one example when you KNEW. Anyone who worships Islam, or Muslim teachings is FORBIDDEN from expressing, exposing, complaining, talking about, writing about, or daring to share knowledge of TERRORIST activity....IS PUNISHABLE BY DEATH.


Go on. Another outrageous claim you have to try and prove.

[aboutime]

Give us $3b a year in military aid along with other assistance (like intel support) and we might think about it :p Or do you expect us to do it with sticks, stones and a few AKs we pick up along the way?



Go on. Another outrageous claim you have to try and prove.


jafar. YOU asked the question. I have no need to prove TRUTH. It just is. And, not even YOU can change it.

[Daniyel]

I never said ISLAM condones it, I said PEOPLE EXCUSE it by the Islam term of Jihad.
Common Jafar, my friend once found a dick covered with Sellotape in a suicide bomb area which all remained entirely from the terrorist, this is the definition of insanity yet people continue doing so.
72 Virgins or "last word" revenge, I take it as pure insanity to struggle with suicide bombs and call it "a struggle in the way of Allah" and neither to be considered as Saint (Sha'hid)
And by the way Jafar, I never heard about Islamic Charity organizations that aid Israel and Charity is one of the most important commands in the Shariah..in fact they aid terrorists and instead of making the voice of the peace and the charity Islam commands, they call on Jihad.

[jimnyc]

Give us $3b a year in military aid along with other assistance (like intel support) and we might think about it :p Or do you expect us to do it with sticks, stones and a few AKs we pick up along the way?


NOT ONE of these groups got to where they are without the support of the locals. You mean to tell me that all of Islam put together couldn't put down a small group like Hamas? Bullshit. There is not a single legitimate military force in all of the Islamic world? No group of people that fight for good? An endless amount of Islamic terror groups, and you're telling me that Islam couldn't put together a force, sort of like the UN would do, and go into a particular area and remove a group of people? Or is it that no one wants to, or no one will? Or that many "support the cause" of Hamas, a terror organization?

[aboutime]

NOT ONE of these groups got to where they are without the support of the locals. You mean to tell me that all of Islam put together couldn't put down a small group like Hamas? Bullshit. There is not a single legitimate military force in all of the Islamic world? No group of people that fight for good? An endless amount of Islamic terror groups, and you're telling me that Islam couldn't put together a force, sort of like the UN would do, and go into a particular area and remove a group of people? Or is it that no one wants to, or no one will? Or that many "support the cause" of Hamas, a terror organization?


Jim. Notice how jafar only has to pretend his friends in Hamas are victims? He never finds any way to disrupt, or go against the rulings of Hatred/Hamas hands down to everyone.
They (Palestinians) have been extorted, threatened, and shown the SHARPNESS of the deadly swords used on Islamists, Muslims who stir up Opposition to Hamas in any way.

The people in Gaza who call themselves victims of Israel have been brainwashed, warned, and convinced to OBEY Hamas...or lose their life.
FEAR is what HAMAS thrives on, and dominates.
Any talk of PEACE against Hamas, would be like Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, and Barrack Obama going on NATIONWIDE TV...telling American Black Citizens...

"WE HAVE BEEN LYING, CHEATING, AND ROBBING ALL BLACK AMERICANS SINCE THE END OF THE AMERICAN CIVIL WAR!"