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Baba Booey
09-02-2014, 07:33 PM
So I'm new to the forum, I've lurked here a bit - lurking on other forums is a great place to get conversation material, so I kinda know some people here but really not much.

And this topic probably has been posted a bazillion times but hey, I'm new and I need the post count.

Categorize your political views based on these criteria.

...please

Gunny
09-02-2014, 07:38 PM
So I'm new to the forum, I've lurked here a bit - lurking on other forums is a great place to get conversation material, so I kinda know some people here but really not much.

And this topic probably has been posted a bazillion times but hey, I'm new and I need the post count.

Categorize your political views based on these criteria.

...please

I hate everyone. Just not equally. :)

Abbey Marie
09-02-2014, 07:46 PM
So I'm new to the forum, I've lurked here a bit - lurking on other forums is a great place to get conversation material, so I kinda know some people here but really not much.

And this topic probably has been posted a bazillion times but hey, I'm new and I need the post count.

Categorize your political views based on these criteria.

...please

Which criteria?

aboutime
09-02-2014, 07:48 PM
Which criteria?


Abbey. I was wondering the same thing.

Abbey Marie
09-02-2014, 07:50 PM
Ahh, I see a poll now.

jimnyc
09-03-2014, 06:30 AM
Where is the option for "Far right, raving lunatic, war hawk, nazi driven loon"? I chose conservative. :)

CSM
09-03-2014, 06:57 AM
Where is the option for "Far right, raving lunatic, war hawk, nazi driven loon"? I chose conservative. :)

Right there beside the " Politics, hell .... don't mess with me or I'll fukkin kill ya" option. Since that particular option aint there, I did not vote.

Gunny
09-03-2014, 06:59 AM
Right there beside the " Politics, hell .... don't mess with me or I'll fukkin kill ya" option. Since that particular option aint there, I did not vote.

I figured that fell under "Who cares?" :)

CSM
09-03-2014, 07:00 AM
I figured that fell under "Who cares?" :)
Nope, if I didn't care I wouldn't have any philosophy about it at all. and obviously, I do have a philosophy... just sayin

Baba Booey
09-03-2014, 07:15 AM
Where is the option for "Far right, raving lunatic, war hawk, nazi driven loon"? I chose conservative. :)

Well, the mix so far is somewhere right of Hitler.

:laugh:

Baba Booey
09-03-2014, 07:16 AM
Ahh, I see a poll now.

On the VBulletin platform the thread posts while the poll is still being created so there's usually a delay in the actual poll going up.

More often than not I'll post a poll on a VBulletin platform and after creating the poll options and clicking "submit thread" I already have like 3 responses.

:laugh:

Gunny
09-03-2014, 07:19 AM
Well, the mix so far is somewhere right of Hitler.

:laugh:

Hitler was far left regardless the attempt to say otherwise by the left. He may have been the dictator, but it was of a state controlled government.

Baba Booey
09-03-2014, 07:25 AM
Hitler was far left regardless the attempt to say otherwise by the left. He may have been the dictator, but it was of a state controlled government.

It can also be argued that Hitler was the first Neocon.

Gunny
09-03-2014, 07:33 AM
It can also be argued that Hitler was the first Neocon.

Not seeing it. The Third Reich was a state controlled government. Had there been no WWII, it would have continued without Hitler. So I'd argue it sounds more like OUR government now, than a "neocon".

Baba Booey
09-03-2014, 07:39 AM
Not seeing it. The Third Reich was a state controlled government. Had there been no WWII, it would have continued without Hitler. So I'd argue it sounds more like OUR government now, than a "neocon".

GW wasn't a big gubmint guy?

No?

Bringing "democracy" to the ME?

The similarities are eerie.

tailfins
09-03-2014, 07:47 AM
So I'm new to the forum, I've lurked here a bit - lurking on other forums is a great place to get conversation material, so I kinda know some people here but really not much.

And this topic probably has been posted a bazillion times but hey, I'm new and I need the post count.

Categorize your political views based on these criteria.

...please


That question is simplistic. For example, which place is more conservative, New Hampshire or Texas? Which downgrades the level of conservatism more, gay marriage or a sales tax, red light cameras and socialized trash service? NH has gay marriage, but TX has a sales tax, red light cameras and socialized trash service.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-03-2014, 07:47 AM
It can also be argued that Hitler was the first Neocon.

Perhaps you will be so kind as to explain what a Neocon is then go on to offer examples of how and why you think a raving, murdering Nazi mad man was one..
I await with bated breath....

My experiences with the word Neocon being splashed around is that it is most often used as an insulting term for a patriotic conservative. Tyr

Gunny
09-03-2014, 07:51 AM
GW wasn't a big gubmint guy?

No?

Bringing "democracy" to the ME?

The similarities are eerie.

THAT is called being stupid, not NAZI. You don't bring "democracy" to a bunch of backwards-assed people who have NO idea of the concept. But there is no real similarity. Bush was after Saddam, period. Not to occupy and absorb.

It isn't about who happens to be President. The President is a red herring. It's about our government and the people who blindly follow it.

Baba Booey
09-03-2014, 07:52 AM
That question is simplistic. For example, which place is more conservative, New Hampshire or Texas? Which downgrades the level of conservatism more, gay marriage or a sales tax, red light cameras and socialized trash service? NH has gay marriage, but TX has a sales tax, red light cameras and socialized trash service.

Of course, it has to be simplistic.

The alternative is that I can give you a 200 question test with 10 required essays in order to determine your actual, precise political position and ain't nobody got time for dat.

And the question isn't who's more or less whatever.

Don't make this more complicated that it needs to be.

:laugh:

Gunny
09-03-2014, 07:53 AM
That question is simplistic. For example, which place is more conservative, New Hampshire or Texas? Which downgrades the level of conservatism more, gay marriage or a sales tax, red light cameras and socialized trash service? NH has gay marriage, but TX has a sales tax, red light cameras and socialized trash service.

Oh, trust me, being gone from here for 3 years and coming back? This is a police state if ever there was one.

Baba Booey
09-03-2014, 07:53 AM
THAT is called being stupid, not NAZI. You don't bring "democracy" to a bunch of backwards-assed people who have NO idea of the concept. But there is no real similarity. Bush was after Saddam, period. Not to occupy and absorb.

It isn't about who happens to be President. The President is a red herring. It's about our government and the people who blindly follow it.

lol! Relax, I'm not suggesting Neocons are Nazi's, I'm saying the similarities can be argued.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-03-2014, 07:54 AM
So I'm new to the forum, I've lurked here a bit - lurking on other forums is a great place to get conversation material, so I kinda know some people here but really not much.

And this topic probably has been posted a bazillion times but hey, I'm new and I need the post count.

Categorize your political views based on these criteria.

...please

I am a far right conservative, patriot, small government kind of guy!
Voted dem FIRST TWO YEARS of my voting life and then woke up from my stupidity to never do that insanity again.
I now fully understand that one of the biggest threats to this nation is now the current dem party... Sad but true..-Tyr

Baba Booey
09-03-2014, 07:55 AM
Perhaps you will be so kind as to explain what a Neocon is then go on to offer examples of how and why you think a raving, murdering Nazi mad man was one..
I await with bated breath....

My experiences with the word Neocon being splashed around is that it is most often used as an insulting term for a patriotic conservative. Tyr

See my reply to gunny

Neocon in the sense that I use it is meant to be that establishment who wishes to continue the expansion of government within and beyond the nations borders.

... basically

Baba Booey
09-03-2014, 07:56 AM
I am a far right conservative, patriot, small government kind of guy!
Voted dem FIRST TWO YEARS of my voting life and then woke up from my stupidity to never do that insanity again.
I now fully understand that one of the biggest threats to this nation is now the current dem party... Sad but true..-Tyr

Our two-party system is for the most part fungible.

Same shit, different logo.

All corporatist, big government, special interest driven, establishment statists.

Gunny
09-03-2014, 07:58 AM
lol! Relax, I'm not suggesting Neocons are Nazi's, I'm saying the similarities can be argued.

I am relaxed. I was just responding to your post. I'll walk away before I get caught up in some message board drama. Again. Remember what you posted in the MW thread? You were burnt out from the same old same old, just in different words? I crashed and burned before you did. :)

I'm just expressing a point of view, and I don't take it personally.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-03-2014, 08:03 AM
See my reply to gunny

Neocon in the sense that I use it is meant to be that establishment who wishes to continue the expansion of government within and beyond the nations borders.

... basically

Well, the term Neocon is most often an insulting term used to describe patriotic conservative Republicans. Your definition as given is a bit vague.


"to continue the expansion of government within"
^^^ --This is liberal/dem agenda , hardly conservative but yes some Republicans sign on to this crap too.


"beyond the nations borders."
^^^^ This either foreign policy or serving National interests but
is to broad as given for me to understand how you think it..

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-03-2014, 08:07 AM
Our two-party system is for the most part fungible.

Same shit, different logo.

All corporatist, big government, special interest driven, establishment statists.


All corporatist, big government, special interest driven, establishment statists

^^ I would not say all but yes far too much of that . Yet leading that charge and miles ahead with it is the dem party. -Tyr

Gunny
09-03-2014, 08:12 AM
Well, the term Neocon is most often an insulting term used to describe patriotic conservative Republicans. Your definition as given is a bit vague.

^^^ --This is liberal/dem agenda , hardly conservative but yes some Republicans sign on to this crap too.


^^^^ This either foreign policy or serving National interests but
is to broad as given for me to understand how you think it..

I disagree with your definition of "neocon". "Neocon" is a disparaging term used by the left they attach to ALL conservatives. The GOP is "neocon" and doesn't represent true conservatives. You're confusing the definition with the label from the left.

If the GOP would quit cringing at every label the left attaches to it, it'd probably still represent us.

Baba Booey
09-03-2014, 08:20 AM
Well, the term Neocon is most often an insulting term used to describe patriotic conservative Republicans. Your definition as given is a bit vague.

^^^ --This is liberal/dem agenda , hardly conservative but yes some Republicans sign on to this crap too.


^^^^ This either foreign policy or serving National interests but
is to broad as given for me to understand how you think it..

Which is why Neocon's are distinguished from Republicans.

Republicans, btw have lost their identity. Good luck defining them.

Baba Booey
09-03-2014, 08:25 AM
I disagree with your definition of "neocon". "Neocon" is a disparaging term used by the left they attach to ALL conservatives. The GOP is "neocon" and doesn't represent true conservatives. You're confusing the definition with the label from the left.

If the GOP would quit cringing at every label the left attaches to it, it'd probably still represent us.

I don't pay much attention to the insulting aspect of how terms are used, their actual meaning is more important to me.

So when I use a term like "neocon" I'm referring to it's actual meaning.


neoconservative; adjective: neo-conservative


1.
relating to or denoting a return to a modified form of a traditional viewpoint, in particular a political ideology characterized by an emphasis on free-market capitalism and an interventionist foreign policy.








I would have added a few more points to this definition though since it's often used in the non-derogatory sense.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-03-2014, 08:29 AM
I disagree with your definition of "neocon". "Neocon" is a disparaging term used by the left they attach to ALL conservatives. The GOP is "neocon" and doesn't represent true conservatives. You're confusing the definition with the label from the left.

If the GOP would quit cringing at every label the left attaches to it, it'd probably still represent us.

Exactly, we do not differ on that. I just wanted to know how baba meant it.
As far as I am concerned a true conservative can not go along with the Republican party's current platform yet we must go along because only two choices exist and not voting(third choice) is a plus and winner for the damn Dems.
Actually, we conservatives are stuck between a damn rock and a damn hard place. Third party is insanity so baba was dead on with some of his castigation of our current two party system.-Tyr

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-03-2014, 08:32 AM
Which is why Neocon's are distinguished from Republicans.

Republicans, btw have lost their identity. Good luck defining them.

Now you are cooking with real grease amigo.
Very hard to get the full scope by reading a few lines on a message board. Some of we old dogs not too savvy on this net talk ..;)-Tyr

Gunny
09-03-2014, 08:39 AM
I don't pay much attention to the insulting aspect of how terms are used, their actual meaning is more important to me.

So when I use a term like "neocon" I'm referring to it's actual meaning.



I would have added a few more points to this definition though since it's often used in the non-derogatory sense.

Okay, but who wrote that? The dictionary goes with the media's definition of things.

The term originated from the left and it was meant as an insult. They have to label everything. As the left has shifted left in the paradigm, so has the right in order to compete with the left. You're reacting to a label, and that is what they want. Take your eyes off the issue and focus on the label.

Literally translated, "neocon" mean "new conservative". Moderates voting for the right because the left are quacks. Now the moderates control the GOP. THAT is a "neocon".

:et's go with another label: Liberal. *I* am a liberal in the traditional meaning of the word. I can't stand seeing lefties referred to as "libs". In the traditional sense "liberal" means do what you want as long as you aren't interfering with what I want. It wasn't a political term. How it got attached to stupid Democrats and progressive socialists is beyond me. But it did.

But it's all about reacting to labels meant to disparage the opposition.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-03-2014, 08:49 AM
Okay, but who wrote that? The dictionary goes with the media's definition of things.

The term originated from the left and it was meant as an insult. They have to label everything. As the left has shifted left in the paradigm, so has the right in order to compete with the left. You're reacting to a label, and that is what they want. Take your eyes off the issue and focus on the label.

Literally translated, "neocon" mean "new conservative". Moderates voting for the right because the left are quacks. Now the moderates control the GOP. THAT is a "neocon".

:et's go with another label: Liberal. *I* am a liberal in the traditional meaning of the word. I can't stand seeing lefties referred to as "libs". In the traditional sense "liberal" means do what you want as long as you aren't interfering with what I want. It wasn't a political term. How it got attached to stupid Democrats and progressive socialists is beyond me. But it did.

But it's all about reacting to labels meant to disparage the opposition.

Right, a classic liberal is not a person to be criticized by the right. They (the left) have now redefined that word and applied it to their agenda thus it went from being about true freedom to being about leftist ideology.--Tyr


Friedrich Hayek identified two different traditions within classical liberalism: the "British tradition" and the "French tradition". Hayek saw the British philosophers Bernard Mandeville, David Hume, Adam Smith, Adam Ferguson, Josiah Tucker, Edmund Burke and William Paley as representative of a tradition that articulated beliefs in empiricism, the common law, and in traditions and institutions which had spontaneously evolved but were imperfectly understood. The French tradition included Rousseau, Condorcet, the Encyclopedists and the Physiocrats. This tradition believed in rationalism and sometimes showed hostility to tradition and religion. Hayek conceded that the national labels did not exactly correspond to those belonging to each tradition: Hayek saw the Frenchmen Montesquieu, Constant and Tocqueville as belonging to the "British tradition" and the British Thomas Hobbes, Priestley, Richard Price and Thomas Paine as belonging to the "French tradition".[24] Hayek also rejected the label laissez faire as originating from the French tradition and alien to the beliefs of Hume, Smith and Burke.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-03-2014, 08:51 AM
Of course, it has to be simplistic.

The alternative is that I can give you a 200 question test with 10 required essays in order to determine your actual, precise political position and ain't nobody got time for dat.

And the question isn't who's more or less whatever.

Don't make this more complicated that it needs to be.

:laugh:

I'll take the test but no essays, had my fill of them in school. ;)-Tyr

Gunny
09-03-2014, 09:00 AM
I'll take the test but no essays, had my fill of them in school. ;)-Tyr

Ain't that the truth? SHould have been in honors English AND journalism. We didn't have computers. It was all on college ruled paper and had to be in ink, no mistakes. :bang3:

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-03-2014, 09:14 AM
Ain't that the truth? SHould have been in honors English AND journalism. We didn't have computers. It was all on college ruled paper and had to be in ink, no mistakes. :bang3:

I think I am about ten years older than you are my friend so I know exactly what you are talking about. We had no computers and typing out essays was not on the menu. It all had to be hand written with no damn mistakes. I had hand cramps so damn often and got told I could not turn in essays hand written by my sister even if they were dictated by me!!
We had wickedly fine and tough teachers back in the day. I graduated back in 1972. Before this nation started falling apart like it has now done. --Tyr

tailfins
09-03-2014, 09:24 AM
Oh, trust me, being gone from here for 3 years and coming back? This is a police state if ever there was one.

Are you saying Texas is becoming a police state compared with New Hampshire?

Gunny
09-03-2014, 09:29 AM
Are you saying Texas is becoming a police state compared with New Hampshire?

I never lived in NH, so I have no idea. There's a lot of give and take. I was living in rural IL (pop 2400). Coming back to the 5th or 6th largest city in the US has REALLY jacked up my head. Don't forget Texas thinks it is its own country. :laugh:

Note that I said police state, not progressive socialist state.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
09-03-2014, 09:32 AM
I never lived in NH, so I have no idea. There's a lot of give and take. I was living in rural IL (pop 2400). Coming back to the 5th or 6th largest city in the US has REALLY jacked up my head. Don't forget Texas thinks it is its own country. :laugh:

Note that I said police state, not progressive socialist state.

If Texas leaves and becomes its own country my ass is moving there the first damn month. Already told this to my wife, she just laughs and shakes her pretty little head but damn it I am serious about it.
Methinks she doesn't get that. :laugh:--Tyr

CSM
09-03-2014, 10:04 AM
I never lived in NH, so I have no idea. There's a lot of give and take. I was living in rural IL (pop 2400). Coming back to the 5th or 6th largest city in the US has REALLY jacked up my head. Don't forget Texas thinks it is its own country. :laugh:

Note that I said police state, not progressive socialist state.

Born and raised in NH .... live there now and probably will the rest of my life. There is no doubt that NH's southern tier has been infected by a bunch of MA refugees and that has tainted the place a bit. I have often been referred to as a "Granite Yankee" which is lib Bostonian for "redneck".

Gunny
09-03-2014, 10:58 AM
If Texas leaves and becomes its own country my ass is moving there the first damn month. Already told this to my wife, she just laughs and shakes her pretty little head but damn it I am serious about it.
Methinks she doesn't get that. :laugh:--Tyr

Yeah. You better make sure you bring enough ID and a note from your mother. I had to take my daughter to get my driver's license to sign an affidavit I lived with her because I'd been here less than 80 days and had no proof of address. And I'm like, if you HAVE to get a Texas license withing 90 days, how the Hell are you supposed to have 90 days worth of bills for proof of address?

After all that crap and numerous trips, tuens out my Texas license wasn't expired. Oh, well we'll just update this then.:combust:

Gunny
09-03-2014, 11:00 AM
Born and raised in NH .... live there now and probably will the rest of my life. There is no doubt that NH's southern tier has been infected by a bunch of MA refugees and that has tainted the place a bit. I have often been referred to as a "Granite Yankee" which is lib Bostonian for "redneck".

Anyone that doesn't huddle in fear like rodents in their massive cities is a "redneck".

Drummond
09-03-2014, 04:05 PM
Hitler was far left regardless the attempt to say otherwise by the left. He may have been the dictator, but it was of a state controlled government.:clap::clap:

This mirrors what I've argued for years.

Quite apart from the fact that Hitler CALLED his party 'Socialist' ... before Hitler rose to power and declared himself to be a dictatorial ruler .. he had to play at being democratic, as did other Party leaders of the time. So it was that Hitler created a 25-point manifesto.

I read through each one, a long time ago. And it struck me then that a good 12 of them were identifiably Socialist in nature. OK ... so it was a Nationalistic variation of Socialism, but regardless, still Socialist.

One obvious giveaway ... the programme of Nationalisation Hitler arranged. This is totally Socialist. Just after WW II, the British Government turned Socialist, and they, too, embarked on wholesale nationalisation of British industry (... when they weren't busily bankrupting us with the introduction of our NHS, that is ..).

Drummond
09-03-2014, 04:09 PM
A quick point .. I've looked at the earlier posts here, and seen that a question of what constitutes 'a Conservative'.

I'm surprised. Perhaps I see these things too simply. However, surely, a Conservative can never have any doubts as to the truth of that ?

I voted 'Conservative' in this poll ... without the slightest hesitation.

aboutime
09-03-2014, 05:52 PM
I have decided to not fall for the Label identity here. Locking myself, or anyone else into a box by descriptive titles seems to be more of a hazard these days since...it is impossible for everyone to please everyone else.

Truth is. In today's constantly troubled, challenging world of politics, name calling, and identity destruction. I'd rather keep everyone guessing since what I bring here doesn't really matter anyhow.

Trying to HERD all of the members into separate, distinct groupings tends to destroy...in the long run...the intent of a Forum. The rules begin to change drastically to suit certain members...to a point where the Mob Rule mentality is allowed to take over, and members decide WHO, and WHEN other members are permitted to offer their opinions, idea's, or thoughts.

I go by what our present Governmental Administration, combined with Political Correctness declares we each are, as Americans.

To many. I am just another, old American. While others think of me the same way Our Pretend President thinks of me. As a Home Grown Terrorist because I am a Veteran. And, as a RACIST because I am not afraid to speak, or be honest about what Racists do, and are who call me a racist.

Stiletto
09-03-2014, 07:02 PM
Let's go with another label: Liberal. *I* am a liberal in the traditional meaning of the word. I can't stand seeing lefties referred to as "libs". In the traditional sense "liberal" means do what you want as long as you aren't interfering with what I want. It wasn't a political term. How it got attached to stupid Democrats and progressive socialists is beyond me. But it did.

But it's all about reacting to labels meant to disparage the opposition.

50-60 years ago, Democrats were, in fact, a lot closer to the classic definition of Liberalism. When the party did a FTL-speed jump to the far left in the 90s, the term "Liberal" became a liability, and true to form by the Far Left, they did their typical semantic bullshit and changed the terminology to "Progressive." Now that it's viewed as a pejorative by Moderate Leftists, Republicans, and Conservatives, they'll probably change it again. Anyone with half a brain can figure out that they continuously do this crap to run and hide from the (justifiable) negative perceptions and the criticisms leveled on them.


I have decided to not fall for the Label identity here. Locking myself, or anyone else into a box by descriptive titles seems to be more of a hazard these days since...it is impossible for everyone to please everyone else.

Truth is. In today's constantly troubled, challenging world of politics, name calling, and identity destruction. I'd rather keep everyone guessing since what I bring here doesn't really matter anyhow.

Trying to HERD all of the members into separate, distinct groupings tends to destroy...in the long run...the intent of a Forum. The rules begin to change drastically to suit certain members...to a point where the Mob Rule mentality is allowed to take over, and members decide WHO, and WHEN other members are permitted to offer their opinions, idea's, or thoughts.

I go by what our present Governmental Administration, combined with Political Correctness declares we each are, as Americans.

To many. I am just another, old American. While others think of me the same way Our Pretend President thinks of me. As a Home Grown Terrorist because I am a Veteran. And, as a RACIST because I am not afraid to speak, or be honest about what Racists do, and are who call me a racist.

Labeling and Identity Politics are tools of Progressive Leftism. Their enemy is Individualism, which must be destroyed in order to achieve their delusional goal of a Global Socialist Utopia. and they use labels (often in the form of hyphenates) to foment division and tension, foster the victimization mentality for profit, and above all else, to maintain control.

revelarts
09-03-2014, 09:32 PM
<label for="rb_optionnumber_1"><input name="optionnumber" value="1" id="rb_optionnumber_1" tabindex="1" type="radio"> Liberal</label>
<label for="rb_optionnumber_2"><input name="optionnumber" value="2" id="rb_optionnumber_2" tabindex="1" type="radio"> Moderate</label>
<label for="rb_optionnumber_3"><input name="optionnumber" value="3" id="rb_optionnumber_3" tabindex="1" type="radio"> Conservative</label>
<label for="rb_optionnumber_4"><input name="optionnumber" value="4" id="rb_optionnumber_4" tabindex="1" type="radio"> Moderate/liberal</label>
<label for="rb_optionnumber_5"><input name="optionnumber" value="5" id="rb_optionnumber_5" tabindex="1" type="radio"> Moderate/conservative</label>
<label for="rb_optionnumber_6"><input name="optionnumber" value="6" id="rb_optionnumber_6" tabindex="1" type="radio"> Who cares</label>





I've been called a 'blind pot smoking liberal' and an 'Unrealistic, conspiratorial, conservative'.
among other names by the folks here -cough- all in fun -cough-

is there a button for me to click?

If the issues is war, 90% of the time I'm 100% ANTI.
When it comes to abortion i'm 100% Pro-Life.
Economy, I'm Anti Monopoly and corporate corrption, but PRO small/medium free biz capitalism.
I'm for SUPER SMALL Federal gov't , including the military.
Pro-GUN 2nd amendment.
ANTI indefinite dentition, warrantless spying and the TSA. i believe they are crimes.
Think tortures and the those who order it should be jailed.
Pro-constitution.
Anti-incarceration for pot possession and use.
Anti gay marriage
Anti-drivers licensing
Anti IRS
etc etc...

please show me the label above that fits.

the only one that doesn't apply is "who cares", at least i do.

Abbey Marie
09-04-2014, 12:15 AM
<label for="rb_optionnumber_1"><input name="optionnumber" value="1" id="rb_optionnumber_1" tabindex="1" type="radio"> Liberal</label>
<label for="rb_optionnumber_2"><input name="optionnumber" value="2" id="rb_optionnumber_2" tabindex="1" type="radio"> Moderate</label>
<label for="rb_optionnumber_3"><input name="optionnumber" value="3" id="rb_optionnumber_3" tabindex="1" type="radio"> Conservative</label>
<label for="rb_optionnumber_4"><input name="optionnumber" value="4" id="rb_optionnumber_4" tabindex="1" type="radio"> Moderate/liberal</label>
<label for="rb_optionnumber_5"><input name="optionnumber" value="5" id="rb_optionnumber_5" tabindex="1" type="radio"> Moderate/conservative</label>
<label for="rb_optionnumber_6"><input name="optionnumber" value="6" id="rb_optionnumber_6" tabindex="1" type="radio"> Who cares</label>





I've been called a 'blind pot smoking liberal' and an 'Unrealistic, conspiratorial, conservative'.
among other names by the folks here -cough- all in fun -cough-

is there a button for me to click?

If the issues is war, 90% of the time I'm 100% ANTI.
When it comes to abortion i'm 100% Pro-Life.
Economy, I'm Anti Monopoly and corporate corrption, but PRO small/medium free biz capitalism.
I'm for SUPER SMALL Federal gov't , including the military.
Pro-GUN 2nd amendment.
ANTI indefinite dentition, warrantless spying and the TSA. i believe they are crimes.
Think tortures and the those who order it should be jailed.
Pro-constitution.
Anti-incarceration for pot possession and use.
Anti gay marriage
Anti-drivers licensing
Anti IRS
etc etc...

please show me the label above that fits.

the only one that doesn't apply is "who cares", at least i do.

Now Rev, we all know you are pro-TSA above all else. ;)

Gunny
09-04-2014, 12:32 AM
Now Rev, we all know you are pro-TSA above all else. ;)

Yeah, I didn't see the anti-everything choice either. I might have clicked on it. :laugh: