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Pernicious
11-01-2014, 12:35 PM
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CLEVELAND - The mother of a 14-year-old east side girl said her daughter was abducted at gunpoint and later raped.
It happened on Tuesday, Oct. 28 at about 7 p.m.

The teen, who had ran away from home earlier that day, told police the man asked her if she had a cell phone.
The victim said no, then told police the man forced her from the Rapid Station at Woodhill and Buckeye to a wooded area behind it.

The mother said police recovered a white hoodie that the teen said belongs to her attacker.
She describes him as a black man, medium build, 5'7" to 5'9" with a prominent bump on his nose.
http://www.newsnet5.com/news/local-news/cleveland-metro/14-year-old-raped-at-gunpoint-mother-speaks-out

jimnyc
11-01-2014, 12:49 PM
Not busting your balls, serious inquiry...

ARE you a racist? Seems like you post an awful lot of stories about black folks, and including pictures of them and such. Do you post similar stories about white folks that commit similar crimes? I don't know you yet, hence me asking, but from a "viewers POV", it seems like you are.

fj1200
11-01-2014, 03:30 PM
Not busting your balls, serious inquiry...

ARE you a racist? Seems like you post an awful lot of stories about black folks, and including pictures of them and such. Do you post similar stories about white folks that commit similar crimes? I don't know you yet, hence me asking, but from a "viewers POV", it seems like you are.

Racists do believe that black people are more prone.

DLT
11-01-2014, 03:37 PM
Racists do believe that black people are more prone.

If you mean, by that statement, that they believe that black people are more prone to commit crimes than whites as a percentage of their race....they'd be correct. The crime stats prove that 'theory'. That said.....it begs the question. Are they racists or are they merely reporting on the crimes due to a political-driven agenda that the current administration has and has exhibited (ie Eric "My People" Holder)?

And ...which came first.....the racist thoughts re: blacks or the acts committed by blacks that caused and/or created the racist thoughts.

Even Barack Hussein Obama himself admitted, rather derisively, that his whitey grandmother was "racist"....holding her purse a bit tighter when crossing paths with a black male. So was he being racist for pointing out how racist his grandmother was?

jimnyc
11-01-2014, 03:40 PM
Racists do believe that black people are more prone.

I ask because of the pictures mainly. I open the threads and see the black folks. Seems like almost all threads are the black folks, no crime about white folks. And hell, I'll admit I am racist about a lot of things, according to many! But I just don't start many threads on the subject. I figured I would ask and get a better understanding is all.

fj1200
11-01-2014, 03:45 PM
....they'd be correct.

Actually they wouldn't be. Race is not the determining factor. Racists don't like where the statistics lead though.

fj1200
11-01-2014, 03:46 PM
I ask because of the pictures mainly. I open the threads and see the black folks. Seems like almost all threads are the black folks, no crime about white folks. And hell, I'll admit I am racist about a lot of things, according to many! But I just don't start many threads on the subject. I figured I would ask and get a better understanding is all.

It makes onewonder. Dirtbags can be any color.

jimnyc
11-01-2014, 03:49 PM
It makes onewonder. Dirtbags can be any color.

Just more often than not they happen to be black. :) :poke:

fj1200
11-01-2014, 03:51 PM
Just more often than not they happen to be black. :) :poke:

Don't make me... :martian: Actually more often than not a government program has destroyed their social structure.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-01-2014, 03:56 PM
Actually they wouldn't be. Race is not the determining factor. Racists don't like where the statistics lead though.




Race is not the determining factor.

How about you prove that rather broad and biased ffing lie...

I guess blacks are not more prone to be violent just like muslims are not!

You got granite between those ears dude..

Deny reality all you like but do not expect intelligent people to swallow that shit you are peddling with that ffing lie..

I am 60 years old and I haven't seen white riots, white knock out games or whites roaming in groups of 40, 50 to a 100 targeting blacks to beat the hell out of..
ALL THIS WHILE YOU BLATHER OUT THAT FFING LIE.............. :mad::mad::mad: --Tyr

fj1200
11-01-2014, 04:00 PM
ALL THIS WHILE YOU BLATHER OUT THAT FFING LIE.............. :mad::mad::mad: --Tyr

I proved it long ago, you just didn't like the answer. I can lead a horse to water...

jimnyc
11-01-2014, 04:03 PM
Don't make me... :martian: Actually more often than not a government program has destroyed their social structure.

More like their use of a government program meant to help them. Most people see unemployment as money to get by on till you can find a job, not as a job itself. Most people see welfare similarly, as something to help feed/clothe themselves and/or kids in bad times UNTIL they can get back on their feet, not as a source of permanent income.

I just deleted a few sentences. I don't want to have the same debate again. Didn't we just do this like a month ago? Regardless of race - there needs to be PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY - and people blaming the government less, others less, looking for handouts and such.

Similar to some women blaming others for having children out of wedlock, or having them at all, and wanting free birth control and such. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. Can't get free shit? Too effing bad, then don't have sex. Only similar here, the percentages in races are rather lopsided.

fj1200
11-01-2014, 04:10 PM
More like their use of a government program meant to help them. Most people see unemployment as money to get by on till you can find a job, not as a job itself. Most people see welfare similarly, as something to help feed/clothe themselves and/or kids in bad times UNTIL they can get back on their feet, not as a source of permanent income.

I just deleted a few sentences. I don't want to have the same debate again. Didn't we just do this like a month ago? Regardless of race - there needs to be PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY - and people blaming the government less, others less, looking for handouts and such.

Similar to some women blaming others for having children out of wedlock, or having them at all, and wanting free birth control and such. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. Can't get free shit? Too effing bad, then don't have sex. Only similar here, the percentages in races are rather lopsided.

Yeah, I don't think we disagreed on any of that. The War on Poverty has done on a number on a lot of people because lefties don't consider unintended consequences. :eek:

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-01-2014, 04:37 PM
I proved it long ago, you just didn't like the answer. I can lead a horse to water...


You did not prove a negative to be a positive hoss. That is your ego talking..
Do not try to piss down my back and then tell me its raining..

You never proved that because FBI statistics prove just the opposite of the shat you are trying to peddle..
Jim has post those stats in the past and so have I..





http://americanfreepress.net/?p=14864



Crime Stats Alarm Black Leaders

January 26, 2014 Exclusive From AFP

4_Crime_Stats




• Shocking new study on youth arrests lays bare facts about crime and race in America

By Victor Thorn

The implications are shocking: Nearly 50% of all black males and 38% of white men will be arrested by the age of 23. These statistics, compiled by four college professors between the years 1997-2008, were published in the January 6 edition of the journal Crime & Delinquency.

The biggest question one takes away from this study is what types of crimes are these young adults committing? Not surprisingly, there exists a great deal of variance depending on the perpetrator’s race.

A 2012 study by the Department of Justice’s Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention revealed that in 2010 black youths committed six times more murders, three times more rapes, 10 times more robberies and three times more assaults than did their white counterparts.

Similar statistics were released by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) in the “Uniform Crime Reports.” They determined, “In the year 2008, black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58% for homicide and 67% for robbery.” By contrast, the only categories where white youths surpassed blacks were in liquor law violations and driving under the influence.

Even black civil rights advocates such as Van Jones, President Barack Obama’s former green jobs czar, confirmed these findings. In his October 5, 2005 article, “Are Blacks a Criminal Race?” Jones wrote, “African American youth represent 32% of all weapons arrests [and] were arrested for aggravated assault at a rate nearly three times that of whites.”

To better comprehend this trend, on January 10 AMERICAN FREE PRESS spoke with veteran journalist and author Alan Caruba. When questioned about the proliferation of black crime, Caruba explained, “The black community is afflicted with all kinds of problems based on a long history of failing to integrate fully into the overall community.”

Pointing to current events, Caruba explained: “The knockout game is a good example of what’s wrong today. It goes straight to the heart of how [blacks] are raised. It’s a disturbing trend that all of us need to pay more attention to.”

The so-called “knockout game” was made popular largely by gangs of teenage blacks who select a random person and try to knock them unconscious with one punch to the head or face.

Although few publications other than AFP have the courage to buck political correctness and address the actualities of this social cancer in a forthright manner, in a 2011 speech Philadelphia’s black Mayor Michael Nutter offered the following admonishment to black youths:

“You have damaged your own race,” he said. “Take those damned hoodies down. Pull your pants up and buy a belt because no one wants to see your underwear or the crack of your butt.”


From the link given..


similar statistics were released by the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) in the “Uniform Crime Reports.” They determined, “In the year 2008, black youths, who make up 16% of the youth population, accounted for 52% of juvenile violent crime arrests, including 58% for homicide and 67% for robbery.” By contrast, the only categories where white youths surpassed blacks were in liquor law violations and driving under the influence.


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Link to the FBI STATS below...--Tyr


http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2012/crime-in-the-u.s.-2012/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex _of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2012.xls

Again do drop the damn lying... You can not refute those stats yet you blather ouit your lies while pretending I am a fool.--Tyr

DLT
11-01-2014, 04:49 PM
Actually they wouldn't be. Race is not the determining factor. Racists don't like where the statistics lead though.

National crime stats say otherwise. So yeah, they'd be 100% accurate, based on published facts.

DLT
11-01-2014, 04:51 PM
How about you prove that rather broad and biased ffing lie...

I guess blacks are not more prone to be violent just like muslims are not!

You got granite between those ears dude..

Deny reality all you like but do not expect intelligent people to swallow that shit you are peddling with that ffing lie..

I am 60 years old and I haven't seen white riots, white knock out games or whites roaming in groups of 40, 50 to a 100 targeting blacks to beat the hell out of..
ALL THIS WHILE YOU BLATHER OUT THAT FFING LIE.............. :mad::mad::mad: --Tyr

And let's not forget about all of the machete-wielding savages that have (and still are) engaged in beheading, raping and murdering folks, especially 'whiteys', over in Africa for decades now.

DLT
11-01-2014, 04:57 PM
I ask because of the pictures mainly. I open the threads and see the black folks. Seems like almost all threads are the black folks, no crime about white folks. And hell, I'll admit I am racist about a lot of things, according to many! But I just don't start many threads on the subject. I figured I would ask and get a better understanding is all.

My guess/bet is....it's politically driven, not racially driven.....based on this current administrations' policies of letting blacks get away with everything from voter intimidation to voter fraud and other crimes just cause they're one of "Holder's people". THIS administration has done more to set race-relations back 100 years than anyone ever could have. A lot of folks are now resentfully paying more attention to what crimes blacks commit in America vs. what whites do, because of that fact.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-01-2014, 04:58 PM
And let's not forget about all of the machete-wielding savages that have (and still are) engaged in beheading, raping and murdering folks, especially 'whiteys', over in Africa for decades now.




You cannot give Reputation to the same post twice.

Wish I could... :beer: :beer: Tyr

DLT
11-01-2014, 04:59 PM
It makes onewonder. Dirtbags can be any color.

Oh for sure. Just look at all of the dirtbags in DC, for instance. Most of them white Democrats, of course. :poke:

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-01-2014, 05:24 PM
My guess/bet is....it's politically driven, not racially driven.....based on this current administrations' policies of letting blacks get away with everything from voter intimidation to voter fraud and other crimes just cause they're one of "Holder's people". THIS administration has done more to set race-relations back 100 years than anyone ever could have. A lot of folks are now resentfully paying more attention to what crimes blacks commit in America vs. what whites do, because of that fact.
I see it as offering the other side of the coin to counter the Obama/government/media pro-black policies and attacks on white Christian conservative Americans.
And why not since we are bombarded with that ffing propaganda night and day?
Seems some complain every damn time the spotlight is turned back on them but love when its shining where they want it pointed.

I think that giving blacks protected status here is wrong..
Government/dem/media already does that FAR, FAR MORE than enough IMHO..-TYR

jimnyc
11-01-2014, 05:28 PM
My guess/bet is....it's politically driven, not racially driven.....based on this current administrations' policies of letting blacks get away with everything from voter intimidation to voter fraud and other crimes just cause they're one of "Holder's people". THIS administration has done more to set race-relations back 100 years than anyone ever could have. A lot of folks are now resentfully paying more attention to what crimes blacks commit in America vs. what whites do, because of that fact.

Posting crimes from around the nation doesn't really have much to do with that. These crimes existed long before and will unfortunately exist long after. But even if that is the reasoning, still no need to make every other thread about race. Some here, some there, that's fine. But someone shouldn't have the majority of their posts being pretty much about the same thing. A little variety would be nice. We certainly don't want to give off the impression that this is some sort of racist hangout. It's not one, and it's not going to turn into one.

jimnyc
11-01-2014, 05:31 PM
I see it as offering the other side of the coin to counter the Obama/government/media pro-black policies and attacks on white Christian conservative Americans.
And why not since we are bombarded with that ffing propaganda night and day?
Seems some complain every damn time the spotlight is turned back on them but love when its shining where they want it pointed.

I think that giving blacks protected status here is wrong..
Government/dem/media already does that FAR, FAR MORE than enough IMHO..-TYR

Maybe so, maybe so, but that doesn't mean that DP needs to turn into the opposite, and some sort of racial answer to any racial propaganda out there. We discuss major stories about Obama, Moochelle, Holder, Rangel... And we point out propaganda and discuss it. There is plenty of things to discuss at that angle without having to post every black crime we can find and attach pictures of the black folks with them, like we are now America's Most Wanted or something.

LongTermGuy
11-01-2014, 06:50 PM
`According to CNN exit polls, 93% of African-Americans.... supported Obama over Romney`

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2013/05/09/blacks-outvoted-whites-in-2012-the-first-time-on-record/

fj1200
11-01-2014, 08:14 PM
Again do drop the damn lying... You can not refute those stats yet you blather ouit your lies while pretending I am a fool.--Tyr

I haven't lied about a thing especially FBI stats. I've pointed out truth, a truth you like to reject for some reason.


National crime stats say otherwise. So yeah, they'd be 100% accurate, based on published facts.

Crime stats say who, not the why. Conservatives understand that big government pragmatic solutions are the cause while lefties stigmatize groups over the individuals. Sad but true.


A review of the empirical evidence in the professional literature of the social sciences gives policymakers an insight into the root causes of crime. Consider, for instance:


Over the past thirty years, the rise in violent crime parallels the rise in families abandoned by fathers.
High-crime neighborhoods are characterized by high concentrations of families abandoned by fathers.
State-by-state analysis by Heritage scholars indicates that a 10 percent increase in the percentage of children living in single-parent homes leads typically to a 17 percent increase in juvenile crime.
The rate of violent teenage crime corresponds with the number of families abandoned by fathers.
The type of aggression and hostility demonstrated by a future criminal often is foreshadowed in unusual aggressiveness as early as age five or six.
The future criminal tends to be an individual rejected by other children as early as the first grade who goes on to form his own group of friends, often the future delinquent gang.


On the other hand:



Neighborhoods with a high degree of religious practice are not high-crime neighborhoods.
Even in high-crime inner-city neighborhoods, well over 90 percent of children from safe, stable homes do not become delinquents. By contrast only 10 percent of children from unsafe, unstable homes in these neighborhoods avoid crime.
Criminals capable of sustaining marriage gradually move away from a life of crime after they get married.
The mother's strong affectionate attachment to her child is the child's best buffer against a life of crime.
The father's authority and involvement in raising his children are also a great buffer against a life of crime.


The scholarly evidence, in short, suggests that at the heart of the explosion of crime in America is the loss of the capacity of fathers and mothers to be responsible in caring for the children they bring into the world. This loss of love and guidance at the intimate levels of marriage and family has broad social consequences for children and for the wider community. The empirical evidence shows that too many young men and women from broken families tend to have a much weaker sense of connection with their neighborhood and are prone to exploit its members to satisfy their unmet needs or desires. This contributes to a loss of a sense of community and to the disintegration of neighborhoods into social chaos and violent crime. If policymakers are to deal with the root causes of crime, therefore, they must deal with the rapid rise of illegitimacy.
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/1995/03/bg1026nbsp-the-real-root-causes-of-violent-crime

Heritage... a bunch of damn lefties I tells ya. ;)

Jeff
11-02-2014, 08:23 AM
The current administration has taken racism back 30 years, hey if it isn't Gw's fault you must be a racist, people ( white ) are tired of hearing this BS, then you have white folks ( Libs ) that find every excuse in the world to say it's not really there ( black ) fault ( just read this thread ) I am afraid Obama has made a lot of Archie Bunkers, or at least got them to the point where they are ready to speak out.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-02-2014, 09:09 AM
Maybe so, maybe so, but that doesn't mean that DP needs to turn into the opposite, and some sort of racial answer to any racial propaganda out there. We discuss major stories about Obama, Moochelle, Holder, Rangel... And we point out propaganda and discuss it. There is plenty of things to discuss at that angle without having to post every black crime we can find and attach pictures of the black folks with them, like we are now America's Most Wanted or something.

I agree with you , no need for the forum to turn into a hate site but remember in the world today very few things are hated more than truth. Especially truth presented simply to counter evil. Political Correctness is pure evil because its a strategy to silence the presentation of truth--of reality.
The leftists/dems/libs practice the strategy of complaining about --too much truth being presented and do so in a world filed to the max with lies! A huge part of those lies are their strategic actions that geared towards limiting free speech..
I was not disagreeing with your policy to insure this forum not become a hate site but instead presenting that caution should always be employed when dealing with complaints by leftists/libs/dems and other assorted type trash IMHO.
Just adding in my 2 cents worth my friend..
For anybody in the know understands there is a war being waged upon the white American rightwing male( especially patriotic ones that dare to speak out)....-Tyr

fj1200
11-02-2014, 02:46 PM
^Oh brother. :rolleyes: