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Trinity
11-05-2014, 11:19 PM
Yep I have been absent from here for quite sometime.....life sometimes throws wrenches in the gears and screws everything up....but I am not here to talk about my lifetime drama story....I'll get back to that later...maybe....maybe not...we'll see.

I am here for another reason gaffer....He is in the hospital he was admitted yesterday. I'm not going to go into all of the shit about this whole situation that has me livid right now, I'll get back to that later....but it appears at this point gaffer has cancer we are just waiting on test results to confirm where and what stage....that's all I got for now....I can't do this right now...I just wanted to let those of you who know and care about him what's up.

gabosaurus
11-06-2014, 12:16 AM
I am really sorry to hear about gaffer. I will keep him in my prayers.
I can relate to the cancer diagnosis. I am an ovarian cancer survivor. Let's hope they caught it soon enough to give him a chance.

Perianne
11-06-2014, 01:11 AM
Best wishes to gaffer, and you.

PixieStix
11-06-2014, 06:31 AM
I am so sorry to hear of Gaffer's diagnosis. Please keep us up to date on what is happening. I will keep him in my prayers.

Jeff
11-06-2014, 07:46 AM
I am so sorry to hear this, it brings great sadness to me , I consider Gaffer a friend and someone I respect very much. I will have y'all in my prayer and will have him on the prayer list at church, please keep us poster, and yes you and your family will also be in my prayers to help get through such a tough time.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-06-2014, 08:05 AM
Yep I have been absent from here for quite sometime.....life sometimes throws wrenches in the gears and screws everything up....but I am not here to talk about my lifetime drama story....I'll get back to that later...maybe....maybe not...we'll see.

I am here for another reason gaffer....He is in the hospital he was admitted yesterday. I'm not going to go into all of the shit about this whole situation that has me livid right now, I'll get back to that later....but it appears at this point gaffer has cancer we are just waiting on test results to confirm where and what stage....that's all I got for now....I can't do this right now...I just wanted to let those of you who know and care about him what's up.

This is very sad news.. As I've stated before, Gaffer was one of the main reasons I joined this forum. I saw a great guy, that had great insight into life . And presented his views with firm conviction. Since than I have pm'ed Gaffer a lot and consider him a good friend.
I ask you to please let Gaffer know prayers will be said for his recovery and blessings asked for him...
Lets pray for God's mercy... --Tyr

red state
11-06-2014, 08:19 AM
Yep I have been absent from here for quite sometime.....life sometimes throws wrenches in the gears and screws everything up....but I am not here to talk about my lifetime drama story....I'll get back to that later...maybe....maybe not...we'll see.

I am here for another reason gaffer....He is in the hospital he was admitted yesterday. I'm not going to go into all of the shit about this whole situation that has me livid right now, I'll get back to that later....but it appears at this point gaffer has cancer we are just waiting on test results to confirm where and what stage....that's all I got for now....I can't do this right now...I just wanted to let those of you who know and care about him what's up.

Trinity, I am so sorry for the pain, frustration and confusion in both of your lives right now. I know full well what is going on and assure you that my thoughts and prayers will definitely be with you and that guy I know as Gaffer.....a guy that I'm sure would be a close friend if ever our paths crossed. Still, I consider him a friend and can only hope that the tough ole buzzard can kick this thing in the butt as I'm sure he's kicked other obstacles and difficulties in the butt throughout his lifetime. He a great guy and still has plenty of iife (FIGHT) in him (I'm sure) so cheer up as much as possible and simply be there for him on this long, windy, road till he's better.

With the kindest of regards, from a friend who knows what you all are going through,

~Michael

revelarts
11-06-2014, 08:41 AM
Trinity you Gaffer and the family are in my prayers, please pass on to Gaffer. all the best.

tailfins
11-06-2014, 08:49 AM
I hope he's able to beat that cancer.

darin
11-06-2014, 08:53 AM
Godspeed to you and yours.

NightTrain
11-06-2014, 09:20 AM
Please give Gaffer my best, Trinity! Please keep us posted.

Sorry to hear of a rough 2014, and I hope it gets better for you.

And I have to agree, 2014 has been an extremely shitty year for me and my family as well.

Trinity
11-06-2014, 10:40 AM
Thanks for all the well wishes! I really appreciate it. Jeff brought up something to me that I had not even thought about, members might want to send cards to him. I have given an address to Jeff and to Jim. For those of you who might want to send him a card, reach out to them for the address.

Pernicious
11-06-2014, 01:02 PM
Prayer for the healing of Gaffer

Lord,

You have taught me that faith as small as a mustard seed can grow into an amazing tree.
Today I give you my little seed of faith. I place it firmly in the ground of your word. I water it with truth. The warmth of your love will make it grow.
Today I ask by faith that you would bring healing for Gaffers' cancer. I place my trust in you. May this seed sow healing into every area where the disease has emerged. May it grow into a strong work, redeeming and restoring with great strength and power.


Amen.



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BoogyMan
11-06-2014, 01:29 PM
Yep I have been absent from here for quite sometime.....life sometimes throws wrenches in the gears and screws everything up....but I am not here to talk about my lifetime drama story....I'll get back to that later...maybe....maybe not...we'll see.

I am here for another reason gaffer....He is in the hospital he was admitted yesterday. I'm not going to go into all of the shit about this whole situation that has me livid right now, I'll get back to that later....but it appears at this point gaffer has cancer we are just waiting on test results to confirm where and what stage....that's all I got for now....I can't do this right now...I just wanted to let those of you who know and care about him what's up.

Please tell Gaffer he is in my thoughts and prayers. I am sorry to hear this news but will be sending my best thoughts his way!

aboutime
11-06-2014, 02:30 PM
As one who can call myself a Cancer survivor. My prayers go out to gaffer, and family who must now Stay Strong,

and hopefully, keep praying for the doctor's who will provide for the irradication of that terrible, scary Word.

Hearing this 'life-changing' news really is the worst anyone would want to hear.

Please pass on that Total Strangers are Praying. Prayer has a way of making things easier in life. I know from experience.

Six grandkids also play a huge part in the WILL to Live.

jimnyc
11-06-2014, 02:41 PM
Trinity, I am so sorry to hear this. In addition to cards, I hope you will tell him that he's missed, and that we're asking for him here. One hell of a stand up guy who sure as hell gave to this country. You guys will be in our thoughts and prayers. Hopefully this is wrong, and if not, he'll kick it's ass. Stay strong and please keep us updated when and if possible.

Jeff
11-06-2014, 02:55 PM
Remember

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Yes Doctors practice medicine Jesus heals !!!

LongTermGuy
11-06-2014, 07:25 PM
`Trin`....Prayers sent....keep us updated.....

KarlMarx
11-06-2014, 07:47 PM
I don't know if this helps... I memorized this when I was going through some very bad times... it helped me... I hope it helps you

Psalm 23

23 The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.
3 He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever.

NightTrain
11-06-2014, 09:53 PM
Thanks for all the well wishes! I really appreciate it. Jeff brought up something to me that I had not even thought about, members might want to send cards to him. I have given an address to Jeff and to Jim. For those of you who might want to send him a card, reach out to them for the address.

I was just about to PM you for an address for him. Thank you.

Trinity
11-06-2014, 10:54 PM
Well I got nothing yet.....Dad had some tests done today, and he is having a biopsy done on his liver tomorrow...what I do know is he has a general doctor and a cancer doctor. I know the CT scan showed two spots on his back and one on his liver, hence the biopsy and the two tests today. I am 99% positive he has cancer, its just a matter of where and how far along....my opinion he either has colon cancer, stomach cancer, or liver cancer and possibly a combo deal....reason I say this is the ER doc a week ago, at the same hospital he is at now, showed him the CT results from then and stated he had some form of bone cancer. Typically bone cancer is caused from some other form of cancer that a person has had previously.

And then his VA doc after seeing those results decided to send him for tests over the next week or so but he only made it to one before the pain and fear that he was having another heart attack drove him back to the ER. Have I mentioned yet that the VA doc is a quack?! No. I'll get back to that later.

Kathianne
11-06-2014, 11:32 PM
Because of my stupid internet connection, all I can say is that I've noticed Gaffer missing but never got around to saying anything about it.

He's in my prayers, he's one of the reasons this place has kept a hold on me.

I pray that he's healed and spends many more years mentoring his grandkids, they need him.

Jeff
11-06-2014, 11:53 PM
Well I got nothing yet.....Dad had some tests done today, and he is having a biopsy done on his liver tomorrow...what I do know is he has a general doctor and a cancer doctor. I know the CT scan showed two spots on his back and one on his liver, hence the biopsy and the two tests today. I am 99% positive he has cancer, its just a matter of where and how far along....my opinion he either has colon cancer, stomach cancer, or liver cancer and possibly a combo deal....reason I say this is the ER doc a week ago, at the same hospital he is at now, showed him the CT results from then and stated he had some form of bone cancer. Typically bone cancer is caused from some other form of cancer that a person has had previously.

And then his VA doc after seeing those results decided to send him for tests over the next week or so but he only made it to one before the pain and fear that he was having another heart attack drove him back to the ER. Have I mentioned yet that the VA doc is a quack?! No. I'll get back to that later.

You may be correct Trinity about the cancer but I can tell you the Docs scared the hell out of me a few years back and told me after a CT scan ( I believe ) I had a MRI but then they order a CT scan ( or the other way around ) but one showed something in my lung and spots on my liver , they did the biopsy of the liver and it wound up being nothing, the Lung was just a abnormal looking thing or something, place all your trust in God because the Docs as I said are just practicing medicine, God Heals.

Trinity
11-07-2014, 12:43 PM
Hey guys....It's bad he has liver cancer....his options are chemo or hospice....stubborn ass old man doesn't want chemo...I am leaving to go to hospital and talk to Doctor and kick my stubborn old mans ass. I have printed out all of your well wishes, I am taking as ammo. I guess he forgot I inherited his stubbornness.

jimnyc
11-07-2014, 12:53 PM
Hey guys....It's bad he has liver cancer....his options are chemo or hospice....stubborn ass old man doesn't want chemo...I am leaving to go to hospital and talk to Doctor and kick my stubborn old mans ass. I have printed out all of your well wishes, I am taking as ammo. I guess he forgot I inherited his stubbornness.

Kick his ass, Trinity. I know the chemo sucks, but it beats the alternative. He's fought for so much in his life, he can handle one more battle. I wish there was more that I can say. I know how much this hurts and what it's like to go through it. Shout out if you need anything. You have my number.

DLT
11-07-2014, 01:21 PM
Yep I have been absent from here for quite sometime.....life sometimes throws wrenches in the gears and screws everything up....but I am not here to talk about my lifetime drama story....I'll get back to that later...maybe....maybe not...we'll see.

I am here for another reason gaffer....He is in the hospital he was admitted yesterday. I'm not going to go into all of the shit about this whole situation that has me livid right now, I'll get back to that later....but it appears at this point gaffer has cancer we are just waiting on test results to confirm where and what stage....that's all I got for now....I can't do this right now...I just wanted to let those of you who know and care about him what's up.

Sorry to hear about illness in your family. Prayers up for Gaffer.

gabosaurus
11-07-2014, 01:43 PM
If you suspect cancer and no one is acting on it, go to a specialist. My aunt in Dallas was having trouble and her doctors just kept ordering tests. So we sent her to a cancer specialty clinic in Tulsa. They found a couple of benign tumors and removed them.
Keep demanding answers. If you don't get them, go someplace else.

aboutime
11-07-2014, 03:28 PM
Hey guys....It's bad he has liver cancer....his options are chemo or hospice....stubborn ass old man doesn't want chemo...I am leaving to go to hospital and talk to Doctor and kick my stubborn old mans ass. I have printed out all of your well wishes, I am taking as ammo. I guess he forgot I inherited his stubbornness.


Trinity. Sorry to hear that diagnosis but....there is a good possibility today, with all of the advances in medicine.

My mother-in-law, now 95, and still able to communicate her feelings rather well, also had Liver Cancer many years ago. She endured the Chemo that lasted several months. And, following the successful treatments for that. We learned she had Breast cancer. So, she had a double mastectomy...at 74 years old. Then, about 5 years later. She had her Spleen removed.

So...even though it sounds terrible in just mentioning the word "C". There are good reasons to hope that the treatments, and lots of prayer REALLY CAN MAKE IT ALL BETTER.

God Bless.

tailfins
11-07-2014, 06:26 PM
If you suspect cancer and no one is acting on it, go to a specialist. My aunt in Dallas was having trouble and her doctors just kept ordering tests. So we sent her to a cancer specialty clinic in Tulsa. They found a couple of benign tumors and removed them.
Keep demanding answers. If you don't get them, go someplace else.

My sister gave up and quit demanding answers. Back in October, 2013 she aspirated the contents of her stomach, almost died, after which she chewed the doctors out for bringing her back. She would have succumbed to the pancreatic cancer about now, except back in May she stayed at home and died from again aspirating the contents of her stomach, at least it happened under the influence of strong pain pills.

hjmick
11-07-2014, 06:28 PM
Damn.

Trinity
11-07-2014, 08:41 PM
ok we met with the MD today, we'll be meeting with the cancer specialist who did the biopsy, on Monday. The cancer specialist is the one who told him he has liver cancer and his choices are chemo or hospice. The lab results will be ready on Monday, however I get the impression that is just a formality and a confirmation of what stage he's in.

My understanding is he has liver cancer and metastasize (bone cancer) but these are both secondary cancers they have still not located the originating tumor.

Other then the loopiness from the pain medicine, and the grimacing expressions from the pain when the meds wear off, he seems to be in fairly good spirits.... he looks like hell. But he is talkative and still bitching about anything political that pisses him off...I am sure the nurses got a huge kick out of the conversation we were all having considering the circumstances.

My nephew is letting him use his tablet so he can get on the board and talk to you all.... however it appears that dad and these new damn gadgets just don't work right for him lol.... so my brother is bringing him a blue tooth keyboard tomorrow so he can actually use a keyboard.

aboutime
11-07-2014, 08:53 PM
ok we met with the MD today, we'll be meeting with the cancer specialist who did the biopsy, on Monday. The cancer specialist is the one who told him he has liver cancer and his choices are chemo or hospice. The lab results will be ready on Monday, however I get the impression that is just a formality and a confirmation of what stage he's in.

My understanding is he has liver cancer and metastasize (bone cancer) but these are both secondary cancers they have still not located the originating tumor.

Other then the loopiness from the pain medicine, and the grimacing expressions from the pain when the meds wear off, he seems to be in fairly good spirits.... he looks like hell. But he is talkative and still bitching about anything political that pisses him off...I am sure the nurses got a huge kick out of the conversation we were all having considering the circumstances.

My nephew is letting him use his tablet so he can get on the board and talk to you all.... however it appears that dad and these new damn gadgets just don't work right for him lol.... so my brother is bringing him a blue tooth keyboard tomorrow so he can actually use a keyboard.


Trinity. Not trying to sound like a smart-ass here, but. He's gotta listen to the Doc's. I know it's painful, and the treatments seem worse than the illness but...the Doc's, and the meds, with the new techniques they try to use every day...really DO pay off after all the BS. Staying alive always feels better, and helping the doc's keep you alive makes them work harder too!
We can all tell him to pray, or anything else anyone can think of to soothe the agony that he is in, and what is coming. But EVERY DAY becomes the way to SHAKE YOUR FINGER at everybody, and say "You ain't gettin' rid of me that easy!"
Sorry if I sound selfish here. But...I really do know what's ahead. Nothing anybody can say will change it.
Just tell him to stay strong, and believe in his family, friends, and those docs.

I have been proving all of them wrong going on seven years now. And I'm still pissin' people off with a smile every time I wake up.

Trinity
11-07-2014, 09:03 PM
I totally get what your saying..... but the doc told us today chemo will not cure it, it will only prolong your life and no guarantees for how long.....He watched his mother go through chemo in 83 and has no desire to be sick all the time....I get it. I do. I saw it too.

NightTrain
11-07-2014, 09:11 PM
You might get him a USB mouse to use with that, too... that'll make him more at ease.

NightTrain
11-07-2014, 09:23 PM
I totally get what your saying..... but the doc told us today chemo will not cure it, it will only prolong your life and no guarantees for how long.....He watched his mother go through chemo in 83 and has no desire to be sick all the time....I get it. I do. I saw it too.

I've seen that horrible battle too, Trinity. But what AT is saying is what I believe as well.

My Grandmother was diagnosed with cancer and the docs gave her a month to live - she confounded them all by living another 13 years.

My Dad was given a 1% chance to beat his lung cancer by the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota, and he beat it that particular one.

No one wants to go through Chemo, and in fact, I've heard Doctors say they wouldn't do it. It's brutal. However, it can be overcome and it can work.

After my Dad and Grandma both beat overwhelming odds given by the best Docs in the business, it's my opinion that it's not a good idea to just throw in the towel and go with Hospice. If there's a chance, even that "1% chance", he needs to fight!

What did the Doc say about Radiation?

tailfins
11-07-2014, 09:31 PM
If you can't maintain his will to live, it's game over. My advice is just do what you can to make each day a happy day for him.

aboutime
11-07-2014, 10:14 PM
I've seen that horrible battle too, Trinity. But what AT is saying is what I believe as well.

My Grandmother was diagnosed with cancer and the docs gave her a month to live - she confounded them all by living another 13 years.

My Dad was given a 1% chance to beat his lung cancer by the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota, and he beat it that particular one.

No one wants to go through Chemo, and in fact, I've heard Doctors say they wouldn't do it. It's brutal. However, it can be overcome and it can work.

After my Dad and Grandma both beat overwhelming odds given by the best Docs in the business, it's my opinion that it's not a good idea to just throw in the towel and go with Hospice. If there's a chance, even that "1% chance", he needs to fight!

What did the Doc say about Radiation?


Agreed NighTrain. I had both chemo, and...are you ready? EIGHT weeks of radiation treatments. The combination was horrible, and I'm no longer the man I once was. Thankfully, I have a loving wife who would rather have me STILL around, than being able to be the young guy she married 47 years ago. Life is great. There are no 2nd chances, and you just have to make every day feel like the best you can. Remembering what the alternative COULD be.
You can't give up, or give in. It takes a strong will...despite the pain, and all the misery that comes from it. But in the end.

WE WIN.

Trinity
11-07-2014, 10:36 PM
You might get him a USB mouse to use with that, too... that'll make him more at ease.



hmmmm not a bad idea. I will have to look into that.

Trinity
11-07-2014, 10:37 PM
I've seen that horrible battle too, Trinity. But what AT is saying is what I believe as well.

My Grandmother was diagnosed with cancer and the docs gave her a month to live - she confounded them all by living another 13 years.

My Dad was given a 1% chance to beat his lung cancer by the Mayo Clinic in Minnesota, and he beat it that particular one.

No one wants to go through Chemo, and in fact, I've heard Doctors say they wouldn't do it. It's brutal. However, it can be overcome and it can work.

After my Dad and Grandma both beat overwhelming odds given by the best Docs in the business, it's my opinion that it's not a good idea to just throw in the towel and go with Hospice. If there's a chance, even that "1% chance", he needs to fight!

What did the Doc say about Radiation?

Nothing about radiation yet, but I will talk to the cancer doc on Monday....

jimnyc
11-08-2014, 06:53 AM
Trin, bare with me as this is my cell phone from Jersey. I have another tablet I can mail you so long as you mail back. It not great or an ipad, but I love it. It also supports USB which ipad doesnt. I'd have to get it back though. We can take a collection here for mouse and keyboard, probably get by end of 2 days, Dad is well liked. I'll check in later or tomorrow. Only saw this as an early riser and may not get back till later. Would love to help in some way if we all can

Jeff
11-08-2014, 07:52 AM
Trinity I am so sorry to hear of the diagnosis , Your Dad is a tough Ol Bird and he is going to do it his way I am sure. See he is the last of a rare breed, I call them Men's Men, they can and will do it there way. I pray he will listen to the Doctors ( yes they are practicing but have lots of practice as seen by the stories on this very thread ) But also as seen on this very thread only God heals, keep the prayers up ( we will here ) and let him know how much we all miss him and want him back to talk about the Dark Lord, remind him how the Republicans won Tuesday night and how much fun the next two years are going to be watching Obama try and work with them ( yes if ya believe he is going to work with them , well Santa comes next month ) Well I am blabbering because honestly this upset me and I have no idea what to say or how to make it better, my Prayers will be with y'all.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-08-2014, 12:08 PM
ok we met with the MD today, we'll be meeting with the cancer specialist who did the biopsy, on Monday. The cancer specialist is the one who told him he has liver cancer and his choices are chemo or hospice. The lab results will be ready on Monday, however I get the impression that is just a formality and a confirmation of what stage he's in.

My understanding is he has liver cancer and metastasize (bone cancer) but these are both secondary cancers they have still not located the originating tumor.

Other then the loopiness from the pain medicine, and the grimacing expressions from the pain when the meds wear off, he seems to be in fairly good spirits.... he looks like hell. But he is talkative and still bitching about anything political that pisses him off...I am sure the nurses got a huge kick out of the conversation we were all having considering the circumstances.

My nephew is letting him use his tablet so he can get on the board and talk to you all.... however it appears that dad and these new damn gadgets just don't work right for him lol.... so my brother is bringing him a blue tooth keyboard tomorrow so he can actually use a keyboard.

I am very sorry to read of such catastrophic results from his medical tests. Please have him explore alternative therapy other than the chemo treatments. And relay to him that many of his friends here are praying for him...-Tyr

Trinity
11-08-2014, 12:17 PM
Just got off the phone with dad...docs came in this morning and said they were releasing him tomorrow...which is some what confusing for me since we were supposed to meet with the cancer doc and hospice on Monday. The good news is we have found a cancer research center with alternative treatments at UC hospital that dad is open to trying.....like he said "What do I got to lose"

PixieStix
11-08-2014, 12:52 PM
I totally get what your saying..... but the doc told us today chemo will not cure it, it will only prolong your life and no guarantees for how long.....He watched his mother go through chemo in 83 and has no desire to be sick all the time....I get it. I do. I saw it too.

Trinity, I am so sorry to hear about this. Gaffer is a really stand up guy. He quickly became one of my favorite posters here. I did notice he was missing more often.

I have been praying for strength, peace, wisdom and healing for him.

We found out in August that my Dad has bone marrow cancer. He agreed to be part of a clinical study (a form of chemo type shots and pills),since the type of cancer he has is not really treatable. We found out just yesterday that the "clinical trial: of chemo did not work, and they want to try another round of something different. I am opposed to this and and other chemo, for various reasons. I feel like my Dad is a guinea pig. Actually I am quite angry that he is not seeing a nutritionist and looking into alternative things.

I only tell you this now, because I can relate to what you are saying. It makes me cry for you and Gaffer.

Give Gaffer my love and respect. I will not forget him in prayer.

May the Peace that goes beyond understanding shadow Gaffer and his beloved family!

Jeff
11-09-2014, 07:54 AM
I totally get what your saying..... but the doc told us today chemo will not cure it, it will only prolong your life and no guarantees for how long.....He watched his mother go through chemo in 83 and has no desire to be sick all the time....I get it. I do. I saw it too.

Trinity yesterday I went on a Benefit ride for a brother that lost his life to this terrible disease, what I found out last night shocked me, Barry ( the Brother that lost the battle ) was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer on Friday and started treatment the following week. he had a couple of treatments that week and another brother walked into the bar Friday night and there sat Barry drinking a beer, seems he never got sick from chemo,I have no idea how normal or abnormal this is but a brother of mine was telling me how Barry looked and felt great up until the last couple of weeks, heck he even rode in his own benefit run ( it was in the front page of all the local papers ) now the treatment didn't cure him, but it lengthened his life and he was never sick, I guess each case is different.

SassyLady
11-10-2014, 07:51 PM
Trinity ... I've been away from the board for a few days and missed all this about your dad .... so sorry and wish things could be different for Gaffer. My sister fought cancer for over 10 years and got to see six grandchildren born during that time so you just never know what you're fighting for until it arrives.

Tell your Dad he needs to listen to everything and everyone so he can make an informed decision about what's best for him. He has my support for whatever he chooses and let me know if there is anything I can do for him during all this.

I will ask my church to put him on our prayer list ... so he will have over 1,000 people praying for him.

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{HUGS FOR GAFFER AND FAMILY}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Jeff
11-10-2014, 09:50 PM
Trin, bare with me as this is my cell phone from Jersey. I have another tablet I can mail you so long as you mail back. It not great or an ipad, but I love it. It also supports USB which ipad doesnt. I'd have to get it back though. We can take a collection here for mouse and keyboard, probably get by end of 2 days, Dad is well liked. I'll check in later or tomorrow. Only saw this as an early riser and may not get back till later. Would love to help in some way if we all can

Jim please let me know what y'all are needing , I will happily give what I got to help Gaffer, not sure how much that stuff cost but we will get it sure enough .

Abbey Marie
11-10-2014, 09:51 PM
I just saw this, Trinity. I am so sorry. I have always had the highest regard for Gaffer. Please let him know I will pray for him to beat this.
-abbey

KitchenKitten99
11-12-2014, 04:18 PM
Saw this last night but was a little too distracted to be able to post. Just got two puppies (yeah, two...) so that has been taking much of my attention right now.

Gaffer is a great guy and I hope all turns out well. This sucks.

He knows he's loved here.

Trinity
11-12-2014, 04:58 PM
Just got back from meeting with the doctor.

Dad has Cholangiocarcinoma..... Laymen terms he has bile duct cancer, which has spread to his spine and liver. It is stage 4, he has 2 to 3 months to live. It is not curable. fml

aboutime
11-12-2014, 05:02 PM
Just got back from meeting with the doctor.

Dad has Cholangiocarcinoma..... Laymen terms he has bile duct cancer, which has spread to his spine and liver. It is stage 4, he has 2 to 3 months to live. It is not curable. fml


Please pass to Gaffer that unknown, strangers really are PRAYING for him. May a Forgiving God grant him the blessings of all that is good. Our prayers are with You, your family, and every fortunate person who has ever met Gaffer.

Stay strong. God still works in mysterious ways. Even for those who refuse to believe.

Jeff
11-12-2014, 05:07 PM
I am so sorry to hear this news

But my prayers will not stop nor my belief that if God chooses to he will leave Gaffer here, anything I can do please let me know.

SassyLady
11-12-2014, 08:36 PM
I'm so sorry Trinity .... I hope you have a strong support group to help you through these next few months. Both you and Gaffer are on our prayer list.

jimnyc
11-13-2014, 05:28 PM
Just got back from meeting with the doctor.

Dad has Cholangiocarcinoma..... Laymen terms he has bile duct cancer, which has spread to his spine and liver. It is stage 4, he has 2 to 3 months to live. It is not curable. fml

Wow, I am so sorry, Trinity. Somehow I missed this when reading today and John told me, then when I come here I find this. Gaffer, I hope you're reading, and I hope you can find a way to post a little. You have friends here that I think would be proud to be called "loved ones". Even if it's just to say "hi", and then read all of the responses. And if not, I hope Trinity is telling you how much you are missed here and how many people are concerned for you. I hope the following poem, which I'm sure most have read before, doesn't come off as pushing religion and such. It means a lot to me when reading this and kind of always made me feel better during rough times.

The Footprints Prayer

One night I had a dream...

I dreamed I was walking along the beach with the Lord, and across the sky flashed scenes from my life. For each scene I noticed two sets of footprints in the sand; One belonged to me, and the other to the Lord. When the last scene of my life flashed before us, I looked back at the footprints in the sand. I noticed that many times along the path of my life, there was only one set of footprints.

I also noticed that it happened at the very lowest and saddest times in my life This really bothered me, and I questioned the Lord about it. "Lord, you said that once I decided to follow you, You would walk with me all the way; but I have noticed that during the most troublesome times in my life, there is only one set of footprints. I don't understand why in times when I needed you the most, you should leave me."

The Lord replied, "My precious, precious child. I love you, and I would never, never leave you during your times of trial and suffering. When you saw only one set of footprints, It was then that I carried you."

Drummond
11-13-2014, 06:25 PM
Trinity, Gaffer .. some overdue commiserations from me. I'm very sorry indeed that Gaffer is suffering this.

My prayers are including him. Naturally I hope for the best times ahead that you can reasonably wish for in these circumstances.

All my very best -

Sir Evil
11-13-2014, 07:55 PM
Wow, I am so sorry, Trinity. Somehow I missed this when reading today and John told me, then when I come here I find this. Gaffer, I hope you're reading, and I hope you can find a way to post a little. You have friends here that I think would be proud to be called "loved ones". Even if it's just to say "hi", and then read all of the responses. And if not, I hope Trinity is telling you how much you are missed here and how many people are concerned for you. I hope the following poem, which I'm sure most have read before, doesn't come off as pushing religion and such. It means a lot to me when reading this and kind of always made me feel better during rough times.


I think all would love to hear from Gaffer and I am sure he knows after all the years he has spent with us that we are still here for him in any way that we can be. Gaffer also frequented my forum so yeah I can say he has been with "us" for a long time even though I rarely come around these parts anymore.

I am lost for the right words at this time and don't know that there are any but sometimes words just aren't going to be enough. With that said Gaffer, Trinity and family are going to need support in any form it comes and I think it would be a great idea to see if we can put together some sort of a donation drive, I know there are some little things that could be very helpful at the moment and I am ready to make a donation if we could get such a thing rolling.

jimnyc
11-13-2014, 08:19 PM
I think all would love to hear from Gaffer and I am sure he knows after all the years he has spent with us that we are still here for him in any way that we can be. Gaffer also frequented my forum so yeah I can say he has been with "us" for a long time even though I rarely come around these parts anymore.

I am lost for the right words at this time and don't know that there are any but sometimes words just aren't going to be enough. With that said Gaffer, Trinity and family are going to need support in any form it comes and I think it would be a great idea to see if we can put together some sort of a donation drive, I know there are some little things that could be very helpful at the moment and I am ready to make a donation if we could get such a thing rolling.

I think that's a great idea. It might be difficult to gather multiple things via collections and getting them off, but perhaps a "one size fits all"? Perhaps like a generic gift card, with a list of attached ideas. Having been there, I can think of some things that would be helpful. And hopefully when they use these things they will know it came from caring friends. We can have a fund drive and I'll ensure all is transparent for those kicking in, and have photos/screenshots in case anyone thinks anything was inappropriate. The goal would be to simply offer some things as if we were friendly neighbors. What would you do if you lived next door? Perhaps we can help similarly from afar. I'll get something going tomorrow, so if anyone has any ideas....

And Gaffer, Trinity, you are not reading this right now. We will do this because we WANT to.

tailfins
11-13-2014, 09:09 PM
Just got back from meeting with the doctor.

Dad has Cholangiocarcinoma..... Laymen terms he has bile duct cancer, which has spread to his spine and liver. It is stage 4, he has 2 to 3 months to live. It is not curable. fml

Wow! That's worse than pancreatic cancer. Can he still enjoy having a nice meal?

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-13-2014, 09:48 PM
Having sent a couple pms here to gaffer today , I want to say to Trinity and his family how very sad it is to find out how serious is his medical report. I went thru this with my Dad at age fifteen and a few weeks ago with my brother-in-law. It is very hard on all concerned. I know this, a man like Gaffer will hold up as good as any considering the coming ordeal. My Dad was given 5 or 6 weeks to live, sent home from the hospital and he made it over 31 weeks, back in 1969.. That nearly killed me..
Count me in on anything you guys set up.
Words fail me now, as they will anybody when words alone can not stop the inevitable.


Gaffer my friend, I admire you for many things and your personal integrity/honor tops that list.
Post here when you can, I think of you like an older brother and I am not shy about admitting that as it is an honor...
Your many pms here helped me many times and I thank you greatly for being my friend... -Tyr

Trinity
11-13-2014, 11:23 PM
Wow! That's worse than pancreatic cancer. Can he still enjoy having a nice meal?


Yes he can, I believe, now that he has his nausea meds.

Trinity
11-13-2014, 11:29 PM
You guys are awesome!!!... and making me cry over your awesomeness. Thank you all so much! I am going to my brothers tomorrow to meet with hospice I am not sure if his computer is set up yet...but if it's not it will be before I leave. He needs to see these comments I think it will give him a big boost to hang around a little longer. I did print out the first 2 pages and took those to him last week when he was in the hospital to give him something to read. :-) and he grinned when he saw how many pages printed out.... it was two on here..... but 13 printed out. I am also moving tomorrow so I am going to send Jim the new address and if anyone has sent anything don't worry I have put in a change of address and talked to the mailman.

Jeff
11-14-2014, 03:42 AM
I wish it was warm weather, would be nice time for a rode trip, but man it is going to be no higher than 49 and lows of 27 here in GA, my old body don't handle the cold to well, Let Gaffer know he is on my mind.

darin
11-14-2014, 08:47 AM
You guys are in illinios? Ohio?

jimnyc
11-14-2014, 09:11 AM
You guys are in illinios? Ohio?

According to Gaffer's bio - it's "O-hi-o" :)

darin
11-14-2014, 09:15 AM
I am up for hand-delivering anything on behalf of the board. I can make most of Ohio in half-days drive.

jimnyc
11-14-2014, 09:23 AM
I am up for hand-delivering anything on behalf of the board. I can make most of Ohio in half-days drive.

Wow, that's awesome, and would be entirely up to you! I think that shows the kind of effect that Gaffer has had on some of us, and of course shows the kind of man you are. Let's get the fund drive going, and you and I can discuss on the back end. We can easily make that happen if you like, and Gaffer and Trinity are on board. Man, I wish I lived closer and could join you for the trip, but I think that area is about 11 hours from me or so! :)

darin
11-14-2014, 09:40 AM
Would be my distinct pleasure.

Abbey Marie
11-14-2014, 11:19 AM
Where in Ohio?

tailfins
11-14-2014, 11:35 AM
Yes he can, I believe, now that he has his nausea meds.

Don't discount how much of a blessing this is. I remember back in April, less than two months before my sister died, I took her to the best restaurant in Attleboro and she couldn't really enjoy it and could barely keep anything down.

Trinity
11-14-2014, 09:42 PM
You guys are in illinios? Ohio?


Ohio

Trinity
11-14-2014, 09:44 PM
Don't discount how much of a blessing this is. I remember back in April, less than two months before my sister died, I took her to the best restaurant in Attleboro and she couldn't really enjoy it and could barely keep anything down.


He is actually eating again now that he has the nausea meds......he didn't eat for a week without.

Trinity
11-14-2014, 09:45 PM
Where in Ohio?

Cincinnati

aboutime
11-14-2014, 10:05 PM
He is actually eating again now that he has the nausea meds......he didn't eat for a week without.


Trinity. I honestly do know how he feels. I went through eight weeks of chemo, and radiation. I found early on. Eating anything was disgusting, and scary. But I soon learned how just bread, white, rye or pumpernickle without butter, jelly, or anything. Usually stayed down. Had to learn to avoid all milk, cheese, or anything that might upset the stomach.

It's a really hard, miserable time. But getting outside to go to the hospital every day seemed to help a lot too!

Wish there was some magic trick I could pass on to you. But if there are any little people around...like grandkids who are innocent, and have no idea what is taking place. That Unconditional Love is almost as good as any Pain Pills. Though it only lasts for a little while until you get tired again.

All my best to all of you there. You who love him so much and spend that valuable time with him WILL BE A BLESSING.

God Bless. The Prayers are everywhere.

Jeff
11-15-2014, 06:20 AM
Cincinnati

Been through there many a times, not real thrilled with downtown but the outskirts are beautiful, I was thinking about y'all early this morning, praying a peaceful day is in store for y'all today.

Gaffer
11-15-2014, 09:46 AM
HI EVERYONE.

Hope I can keep up the posting for now. We're waiting on hospice to show up with some of the many things they offer to help ease the pain. It seems when hospice steps in all the other agencies step out.

Trinity brought all the posts from this forum last week which she had printed out so far. I set them on my tray and one of the nurses came in just and asked,whats that? I told her it was some of my fan mail. She gave me a funny look and moved on to other things.

I have managed to get on here a couple of times and read, but I can't type too easily. I'm walking, I kinda walk. swaying back and forth until I get to my destination.

I do have a goal in mind that I can't do with out staying alive. Piss of jayne fonda's grave.

tailfins
11-15-2014, 10:17 AM
HI EVERYONE.

Hope I can keep up the posting for now. We're waiting on hospice to show up with some of the many things they offer to help ease the pain. It seems when hospice steps in all the other agencies step out.

Trinity brought all the posts from this forum last week which she had printed out so far. I set them on my tray and one of the nurses came in just and asked,whats that? I told her it was some of my fan mail. She gave me a funny look and moved on to other things.

I have managed to get on here a couple of times and read, but I can't type too easily. I'm walking, I kinda walk. swaying back and forth until I get to my destination.

I do have a goal in mind that I can't do with out staying alive. Piss of jayne fonda's grave.

You could try pissing on Fonda while she's still alive. The only problem would be that she might not consider that offensive and may well take pleasure in it.

NightTrain
11-17-2014, 12:11 AM
Gaffer!

Man, I am so glad to see you post. Since I got the news I've been so fucking despondent.

Please give a list of what you want while you're in there. I know Trinity has been supplying things, and doing an awesome job.

Do you have a laptop? Movies? Cell? Netflix account?

Tell me what you want to make your stay in there more pleasant.

Hospitals suck, let's make that shit more enjoyable! Say the word.

red states rule
11-17-2014, 03:09 AM
HI EVERYONE.

Hope I can keep up the posting for now. We're waiting on hospice to show up with some of the many things they offer to help ease the pain. It seems when hospice steps in all the other agencies step out.

Trinity brought all the posts from this forum last week which she had printed out so far. I set them on my tray and one of the nurses came in just and asked,whats that? I told her it was some of my fan mail. She gave me a funny look and moved on to other things.

I have managed to get on here a couple of times and read, but I can't type too easily. I'm walking, I kinda walk. swaying back and forth until I get to my destination.

I do have a goal in mind that I can't do with out staying alive. Piss of jayne fonda's grave.

Hey Gaffer, I am delighted to hear from you. I know what you are going through. Having to endure the treatments, the side effects, and the seemingly never ending pokes and prods from the medical staff. Hang in there pal and remember you have a lot of people ready to give you whatever you need. God bless you and your family.

aboutime
11-17-2014, 04:22 PM
Bless ya Gaffer. Stay strong. Stay brave. You are wiser, and stronger than the rest of us.

Wish I could personally do something to help in some way. But, being the wuss I am with my own challenges you know.

Please keep coming here whenever the mood grabs ya. You bring inspiration to everyone who has anything to whine about!:laugh:

Hang in there. You have no idea how much Love, and Hope with prayers we all dedicate to you. God Bless.!

jimnyc
11-17-2014, 04:41 PM
Gaffer!

Man, I am so glad to see you post. Since I got the news I've been so fucking despondent.

Please give a list of what you want while you're in there. I know Trinity has been supplying things, and doing an awesome job.

Do you have a laptop? Movies? Cell? Netflix account?

Tell me what you want to make your stay in there more pleasant.

Hospitals suck, let's make that shit more enjoyable! Say the word.

I'm with ya! Would it be wrong of us to send in some stripper grams? By the time anyone figured it out it would be too late, and Gaffer would get a free show! :)

But he's right, Gaffer, don't hesitate for a moment. We aren't millionaires and we aren't right around the corner from you guys - but if there is ANYthing we can do that you feel would be helpful, please just say it. Netflix is absolutely awesome and you can watch most TV shows and movies right from your tablet. I believe Amazon allows for movies and stuff too? I know a friend of a friend of a friend of a friend - and I think you may have even been to his site many times - but we can even help with some movies if we must. :) :)

I had just assumed everyone had a cell, but that's naive of me. Do you have one? Worst case I'm sure we can muster up a burner phone if we have to. You can then keep in touch with loved ones, and make prank phone calls to Jane Fonda!! LOL

Seriously, there are lots of things to do when you are strapped down. Be imaginative, and we can too! Anyone else have good ideas and pointers? In general, and anything we can do if possible?

red states rule
11-17-2014, 04:57 PM
Count me in as well Gaffer. If I can help I will - if you need something shoot a flare buddy

red states rule
11-18-2014, 04:14 AM
Gaffer this is for you buddy

Jim posted how you touched so many of here and he was right. God bless you


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlYcT6DmJY

Kathianne
11-19-2014, 02:16 AM
HI EVERYONE.

Hope I can keep up the posting for now. We're waiting on hospice to show up with some of the many things they offer to help ease the pain. It seems when hospice steps in all the other agencies step out.

Trinity brought all the posts from this forum last week which she had printed out so far. I set them on my tray and one of the nurses came in just and asked,whats that? I told her it was some of my fan mail. She gave me a funny look and moved on to other things.

I have managed to get on here a couple of times and read, but I can't type too easily. I'm walking, I kinda walk. swaying back and forth until I get to my destination.

I do have a goal in mind that I can't do with out staying alive. Piss of jayne fonda's grave.

Gaffer, please note that you've been an example to me. Support those you agree with, shut up with those you don't-unless they become too strident. I've always supported you, now it's just a matter of saying prayers and knowing you will be going to a better place. I love you and admire you.

Trinity
11-20-2014, 10:43 PM
Forgive me if I have already posted this ....I honestly don't remember and don't really have the time to re read through everything to see if I did. We met with hospice and they ordered Dad a hospital bed, hospital table, wheelchair, walker, and oxygen tank for now.....I was impressed they had everything delivered within a few days, the bed the very next day.

Dad is not in the hospital or in hospice he is staying at my brothers house, where he has been living for the past couple of years. They had to do some room swapping so dad could be on the main floor and not have to navigate stairs anymore. He will live out the remainder of his life there unless it gets to a point that he needs 24/7 care, then we will have him moved to the Hospice facility. For now he has nurses, aides, and social workers coming in regularly to see him and make sure he is as comfortable as can be.

At this point he is doing as best as can be expected. I am just hoping to have him around till his next birthday which is Feb 25th. Cause with my work schedule and living 45 minutes away, I am only going to get the weekends with him, as long as I have the gas money. :-(

PixieStix
11-21-2014, 11:35 PM
Trinity, Please tell Gaffer that I and my family are praying for him

Please hang in there Trinity. Know that the Lord will walk you through this. May the Peace that goes beyond understanding be yours, and your family's.

Give Gaffer my love and respect. :salute:

SassyLady
11-22-2014, 06:22 AM
Trinity ... prayers for you, your family and Gaffer. Hospice will help with the details of his care so you can focus on the bigger picture of just connecting with your dad during these next few weeks. Don't forget to take care of yourself during all this.

:hug99:

KitchenKitten99
11-25-2014, 05:16 PM
In times like this, all I really know how to do is feed people.

Being across the country, a decent traditional Minnesota hot dish doesn't ship well, and wouldn't survive the distribution house football that the people at UPS and FedEx play (I know, my sister works for UPS, lol).

Thus maybe some cookies or rolls, or maybe a loaf of homemade honey breads? Despite my certification as a chef, I am really a closeted baker...

Make a request, Gaffer, Trinity, and any of the family members and I will accommodate. Also let me know if there are any food allergies or sensitivities I need to work around.

Trinity
11-26-2014, 06:23 PM
In times like this, all I really know how to do is feed people.

Being across the country, a decent traditional Minnesota hot dish doesn't ship well, and wouldn't survive the distribution house football that the people at UPS and FedEx play (I know, my sister works for UPS, lol).

Thus maybe some cookies or rolls, or maybe a loaf of homemade honey breads? Despite my certification as a chef, I am really a closeted baker...

Make a request, Gaffer, Trinity, and any of the family members and I will accommodate. Also let me know if there are any food allergies or sensitivities I need to work around.


Ahhh thank you! That's so sweet. And I will leave that decision up to you. If you want to bake something and ship it, I'm down :-) your choice, and Gaffer does have somewhat of a sweet tooth. I noticed m&m's and powdered sugar donuts in his room :-).... No food allergies that I am aware of.

Kathianne
11-26-2014, 07:00 PM
Gaffer, I hope you get to enjoy this Thanksgiving. Eat what you can/want, but I trust you are with those you love. I'm thinking of you, sometimes at times that surprise myself.

KitchenKitten99
11-28-2014, 10:38 AM
Ahhh thank you! That's so sweet. And I will leave that decision up to you. If you want to bake something and ship it, I'm down :-) your choice, and Gaffer does have somewhat of a sweet tooth. I noticed m&m's and powdered sugar donuts in his room :-).... No food allergies that I am aware of.


Alright I will get baking. :salute: