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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
01-07-2015, 08:52 AM
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/paris-shooting---ten-people-killed--at-charlie-hebdo-office-114026330.html#W3UFxqy

12 killed and four critically injured after gunmen attack Paris office of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo
Yahoo News.
..By Chris Parsons | Yahoo News. – 1 hour 56 minutes ago.


12 DEAD IN TERROR ATTACK AT OFFICES OF FRENCH SATIRICAL NEWSPAPER 'CHARLIE HEBDO'
•PAPER ANGERED MUSLIMS AFTER PUBLISHING CRUDE CARICATURES OF ISLAM'S PROPHET MOHAMMED
•DEADLIEST FRENCH TERRORIST ATTACK IN 20 YEARS
•10 CHARLIE HEBDO STAFF AMONG DEAD - INCLUDING EDITOR AND LEAD CARTOONIST

•Five more are critically injured - gunmen are still at large

•French President Francois Hollande has said 'France is in shock from a terrorist attack.'
•David Cameron described the attack as 'sickening'.


Journalist Marie Toucan says gunmen entered wrong offices first, mixing up number 6 and 10. Cartoonists deliberately targeted. #CharlieHebdo

Jan. 7, 2015


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Wilner
• 1 minute 54 seconds ago Report Abuse
it's very sad day for those who lost their love ones. i remember Assad said be careful to the path that you're taking by giving those terrorists lethal they might return violent against your citizen.


donald
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• 1 hour 25 minutes ago Report Abuse
And this shall continue. You either cut the head off of the snake, or continue to get bitten.


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The world as a whole had better wake up the Muslim religion teaches to eliminate all other religions, they kill in the name of an antichrist they call Mohammad, they enter all free nations under the guise of a peaceful religion and then continue to breed killers and take innocent lives while... More


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As I stated in other posts, France will be at war internally with its Muslim population throughout the next decade. They invited and accepted them but they are unable to adapt to western social circumstance and will never be willing to deal with satire with a shoulder shrug.





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And this shall continue. You either cut the head off of the snake, or continue to get bitten.

^^^ Chosen from the comments. This is exactly what I've been saying since the day of 9/11.
If the head is not cut off we all will lose, will be conquered and our children and grandchildren made into either slaves or blinded stinking savages(muslims)....
These people must be stopped and it will take an ALL OUT WAR TO DO IT!!
Their mosques must be obliterated and they limited to one solitary location on earth IMHO...
The very essence of their religion is that all others must be utterly destroyed and their people murdered or converted--that leaves not room for compromise , barter, appeasement or cowardice. Because any of those actions eventually get you defeated and killed..-Tyr

NightTrain
01-07-2015, 10:55 AM
All the muzzies have done here is unite France against islam, swaying the fence-sitters against them. Maybe this time something positive will actually come of it before the usual pacifists start waving the white flag.

Another unintended consequence is bringing international exposure to the very cartoons they wanted to censor - I know I had to see what the controversy is all about. Some of them are actually pretty humorous!

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
01-07-2015, 11:27 AM
All the muzzies have done here is unite France against islam, swaying the fence-sitters against them. Maybe this time something positive will actually come of it before the usual pacifists start waving the white flag.

Another unintended consequence is bringing international exposure to the very cartoons they wanted to censor - I know I had to see what the controversy is all about. Some of them are actually pretty humorous!

The great lie, that massive fraud that so much of the world believes gives them cover--that Islam is the religion of peace..
When in fact it is directly the opposite!! And any look at its history points that out clearly!! -Tyr

Drummond
01-07-2015, 12:01 PM
^^^ Chosen from the comments. This is exactly what I've been saying since the day of 9/11.
If the head is not cut off we all will lose, will be conquered and our children and grandchildren made into either slaves or blinded stinking savages(muslims)....
These people must be stopped and it will take an ALL OUT WAR TO DO IT!!
Their mosques must be obliterated and they limited to one solitary location on earth IMHO...
The very essence of their religion is that all others must be utterly destroyed and their people murdered or converted--that leaves not room for compromise , barter, appeasement or cowardice. Because any of those actions eventually get you defeated and killed..-Tyr:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

Drummond
01-07-2015, 12:07 PM
All the muzzies have done here is unite France against islam, swaying the fence-sitters against them. Maybe this time something positive will actually come of it before the usual pacifists start waving the white flag.

Another unintended consequence is bringing international exposure to the very cartoons they wanted to censor - I know I had to see what the controversy is all about. Some of them are actually pretty humorous!

I think that's a very big 'maybe'.

I hope you're right in your conclusion, and maybe you are. But I have my doubts.

I think you greatly underestimate the degree of State-run indoctrination that goes on. In Britain, Muslim terrorist acts are always described as originating from 'extremists' ... in fact, no media outlet ever dares suggest they're anything to do with mainstream Islam, because that'd be actionable in law.

France may well suffer the same perceptual stranglehold over the way its people think ... and when you consider that the percentage of Muslims in their population is roughly double ours, that same indoctrination must be even stronger there, than here.

But maybe this attack will work to undermine it. Time will tell.

NightTrain
01-07-2015, 12:53 PM
I'm pretty cynical about it, actually. I doubt anything positive will come from it.

It's a huge MAYBE in my comment, I certainly won't hold my breath.

LongTermGuy
01-07-2015, 01:10 PM
[QUOTE=NightTrain;720542]All the muzzies have done here is unite France against islam, swaying the fence-sitters against them. Maybe this time something positive will actually come of it before the usual pacifists start waving the white flag.`


`Like closing / burning the mosques down and finding... deporting every koran reading cacaroach...`

Bilgerat
01-07-2015, 02:03 PM
Try to wrap your mind around this

Police arrived on the scene by bicycles, but left as they were unarmed.

That's right, UNARMED

They have the choice to go armed, or to avoid carrying that scary gun.

For the civilian populace, to purchase a firearm in France, a hunting license or a shooting sport license is necessary. All semi-automatic rifles with a capacity greater than 3 rounds, all handguns and all rifles chambered in 'military' calibers, including bolt action, require permits. These are known as B1, B2 and B4 type permits. Firearms are divided into eight categories that determine the regulations that apply to their possession and use. France also sets limits on the number of cartridges that can be kept at home (1000 rounds per gun).

The total number of firearms owned by an individual is also subject to limits (not possible to have more than 12 authorizations/permits on B1, B2 and B4 type firearms). As of September, 2013, France has a capacity limit of 20 rounds for handguns; one needs a permit for category one semi-automatics that have a capacity greater than 3 rounds.

Fully automatic firearms are illegal for civilian ownership.

Yet these murdering cowards showed up with fully automatic AK 47's (notice that the left leaning MSM has carefully avoided naming these "assault weapons")

For you idiots who want more gun laws, France has banned Semi-automatic and automatic firearms.

But that hasn't stopped drug dealers and terrorists from acquiring them in increasing numbers, according to the National Observatory for Delinquency, a state body created in 2003 by then-Interior Minister and later President Nicolas Sarkozy.

The numbers of illegal weapons in France have increased by double digits, the body says.



The only thing gun laws do is disarm the law abiding.

LongTermGuy
01-07-2015, 02:30 PM
I'm pretty cynical about it, actually. I doubt anything positive will come from it.

It's a huge MAYBE in my comment, I certainly won't hold my breath.


*This sort of thing is going to be `hardening` attitudes of westerners towards the islamic cult threat.

As terrible as this is......the muslim jihadists are cutting their own throats.`

LongTermGuy
01-07-2015, 02:36 PM
`Watch it carefully, people.

.....It will be happening here soon enough`



`very raw video of the point blank execution of the police officer is on facebook`


https://www.facebook.com/thisiseuropa (https://www.facebook.com/thisiseuropa)

NightTrain
01-07-2015, 02:46 PM
*This sort of thing is going to be `hardening` attitudes of westerners towards the islamic cult threat.

As terrible as this is......the muslim jihadists are cutting their own throats.`

I've been pissing off muzzies on Al Jazeera all morning in the comment section.

There's already French liberals wringing their hands and blaming Israel. Pretty sad, really.

Jeff
01-07-2015, 03:15 PM
Try to wrap your mind around this

Police arrived on the scene by bicycles, but left as they were unarmed.

That's right, UNARMED

They have the choice to go armed, or to avoid carrying that scary gun.

For the civilian populace, to purchase a firearm in France, a hunting license or a shooting sport license is necessary. All semi-automatic rifles with a capacity greater than 3 rounds, all handguns and all rifles chambered in 'military' calibers, including bolt action, require permits. These are known as B1, B2 and B4 type permits. Firearms are divided into eight categories that determine the regulations that apply to their possession and use. France also sets limits on the number of cartridges that can be kept at home (1000 rounds per gun).

The total number of firearms owned by an individual is also subject to limits (not possible to have more than 12 authorizations/permits on B1, B2 and B4 type firearms). As of September, 2013, France has a capacity limit of 20 rounds for handguns; one needs a permit for category one semi-automatics that have a capacity greater than 3 rounds.

Fully automatic firearms are illegal for civilian ownership.

Yet these murdering cowards showed up with fully automatic AK 47's (notice that the left leaning MSM has carefully avoided naming these "assault weapons")

For you idiots who want more gun laws, France has banned Semi-automatic and automatic firearms.

But that hasn't stopped drug dealers and terrorists from acquiring them in increasing numbers, according to the National Observatory for Delinquency, a state body created in 2003 by then-Interior Minister and later President Nicolas Sarkozy.

The numbers of illegal weapons in France have increased by double digits, the body says.



The only thing gun laws do is disarm the law abiding.


Another place save to live because of there wonderful gun laws, this world needs to forget all this PC trash and realize reality, criminals aren't giving up there guns and you will never rid the world of gun so they will always have them.

LongTermGuy
01-07-2015, 03:41 PM
I've been pissing off muzzies on Al Jazeera all morning in the comment section.

There's already French liberals wringing their hands and blaming Israel. Pretty sad, really.



`Muzzies and Leftists go hand in hand....ignorant and very sensitive for their cause...think of it as a badge of honor pissing them off.....the world is starting to see the cancers of islam and Liberalism....which feed off one another...`

NightTrain
01-07-2015, 04:18 PM
`Muzzies and Leftists go hand in hand....ignorant and very sensitive for their cause...think of it as a badge of honor pissing them off.....the world is starting to see the cancers of islam and Liberalism....which feed off one another...`

The weird part is that the paper is a leftist organization, even by French standards.

It's startling how quickly they abandon their own, preaching "tolerance" even as the cartoonists were killed precisely because lack of tolerance by the muzzies.

LongTermGuy
01-07-2015, 04:25 PM
The weird part is that the paper is a leftist organization, even by French standards.

It's startling how quickly they abandon their own, preaching "tolerance" even as the cartoonists were killed precisely because lack of tolerance by the muzzies.

​`Maybe they will learn something when it comes to `Tolerance` and the cult of islam.....But...Probably not....Leftist will remain stupid and keep drooling from the mouth.`

Bilgerat
01-07-2015, 04:41 PM
I'm still having trouble with the Police NOT carrying.

All I can think of is that scene from Demolition Man




http://images2.static-bluray.com/reviews/4663_3.jpg

We're police officers! We're not trained to handle this kind of violence!

Drummond
01-07-2015, 05:58 PM
Try to wrap your mind around this

Police arrived on the scene by bicycles, but left as they were unarmed.

That's right, UNARMED

They have the choice to go armed, or to avoid carrying that scary gun.

For the civilian populace, to purchase a firearm in France, a hunting license or a shooting sport license is necessary. All semi-automatic rifles with a capacity greater than 3 rounds, all handguns and all rifles chambered in 'military' calibers, including bolt action, require permits. These are known as B1, B2 and B4 type permits. Firearms are divided into eight categories that determine the regulations that apply to their possession and use. France also sets limits on the number of cartridges that can be kept at home (1000 rounds per gun).

The total number of firearms owned by an individual is also subject to limits (not possible to have more than 12 authorizations/permits on B1, B2 and B4 type firearms). As of September, 2013, France has a capacity limit of 20 rounds for handguns; one needs a permit for category one semi-automatics that have a capacity greater than 3 rounds.

Fully automatic firearms are illegal for civilian ownership.

Yet these murdering cowards showed up with fully automatic AK 47's (notice that the left leaning MSM has carefully avoided naming these "assault weapons")

For you idiots who want more gun laws, France has banned Semi-automatic and automatic firearms.

But that hasn't stopped drug dealers and terrorists from acquiring them in increasing numbers, according to the National Observatory for Delinquency, a state body created in 2003 by then-Interior Minister and later President Nicolas Sarkozy.

The numbers of illegal weapons in France have increased by double digits, the body says.



The only thing gun laws do is disarm the law abiding.
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

PERFECTLY PUT. Couldn't agree more. This is certainly no less true in the UK .. and your conclusions are spot on.

The only criticism I'd have of this French situation is that, though most police (as, again, is true in Britain) don't carry guns, nonetheless, there are specialist squads which can be called upon when needed in an emergency, who are proficient in using guns and who are allowed to carry them. I'd guess the problem here was that someone blundered in assessing the full nature of the situation, and so didn't call the 'right' police to the scene.

Drummond
01-07-2015, 06:03 PM
I'm still having trouble with the Police NOT carrying.

All I can think of is that scene from Demolition Man




http://images2.static-bluray.com/reviews/4663_3.jpg

We're police officers! We're not trained to handle this kind of violence!


For me, it's a daily reality.

And it's totally nuts.

Criminals, by and large, either get guns, or use knives as substitutes. The law-abiding usually don't own guns because (a) it's part of the culture not to, and (b) the laws allowing gun ownership are overly prohibitive.

So most of the police are unarmed as well.

A couple of years ago, we had widespread rioting in England. Police faced rioters unarmed. Shopkeepers were unarmed.

The rioting lasted nearly a week. In the more extreme cases, shops, stores, were burned to the ground. Their owners lacked the means to drive the rioters away and defend their businesses.

LongTermGuy
01-07-2015, 06:46 PM
For me, it's a daily reality.

And it's totally nuts.

Criminals, by and large, either get guns, or use knives as substitutes. The law-abiding usually don't own guns because (a) it's part of the culture not to, and (b) the laws allowing gun ownership are overly prohibitive.

So most of the police are unarmed as well.

A couple of years ago, we had widespread rioting in England. Police faced rioters unarmed. Shopkeepers were unarmed.

The rioting lasted nearly a week. In the more extreme cases, shops, stores, were burned to the ground. Their owners lacked the means to drive the rioters away and defend their businesses.


*Agree....remember the movie well....where "civilized" society has become soft....tolerant and politically correct...and found itself frozen / shocked / clueless... when it came to violence and solving the self made "puzzle".....Made me think of another movie...The Time Machine.....

`....In the new narrative, the Time Traveller tests his device with a journey that takes him toA.D. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anno_Domini) 802,701, where he meets the `Eloi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eloi)` a society of small, elegant, childlike adults.

They live in small communities within large and futuristic yet slowly deteriorating buildings, doing no work and having a frugivorous (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frugivore) diet. His efforts to communicate with them are hampered by their lack of curiosity or discipline, and he speculates that they are a peaceful, common society, the result of humanity conquering nature with technology, and subsequently evolving to adapt to an environment in which strength and intellect are no longer advantageous to survival.....

*Later in the dark, he is approached menacingly by the Morlocks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morlock), ape (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ape)-like troglodytes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caveman) who live in darkness underground and surface only at night...to `feed` off the "Eloi" the blonde `sunshine` people...

Go to 1:40


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKP-WkcDT5s#t=31

Jeff
01-08-2015, 06:21 AM
For me, it's a daily reality.

And it's totally nuts.

Criminals, by and large, either get guns, or use knives as substitutes. The law-abiding usually don't own guns because (a) it's part of the culture not to, and (b) the laws allowing gun ownership are overly prohibitive.

So most of the police are unarmed as well.

A couple of years ago, we had widespread rioting in England. Police faced rioters unarmed. Shopkeepers were unarmed.

The rioting lasted nearly a week. In the more extreme cases, shops, stores, were burned to the ground. Their owners lacked the means to drive the rioters away and defend their businesses.

This explains why the Muslims hit certain countries first. America is well under way of there invasion but they here slower to make it here because we can protect ourselves, AND man are they going to find that out when the :shitfan:

Bilgerat
01-08-2015, 08:01 AM
America is well under way of there invasion but they here slower to make it here because we can protect ourselves, AND man are they going to find that out

He knew it then, time for them to learn it now



You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.
Isoroku Yamamoto (http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/i/isoroku_yamamoto.html)