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Kathianne
01-22-2015, 03:10 PM
I guess that "Yemen model" touted as an Obama success in 'smart diplomacy' if done.

more discussion on topic can be found:

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?48425-What-Obama-won-t-admit-in-State-of-the-Union-address&p=721916&highlight=ISIS#post721916

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-yemen-model-is-finished-2015-1


The 'Yemen Model' Is Finished

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MAX BOOT (https://www.commentarymagazine.com/2015/01/22/yemen-model-goes-flames/#.VME0V-82lV8.twitter), COMMENTARY MAGAZINE (http://www.commentarymagazine.com/)




JAN. 22, 2015, 12:58 PM








...There is no easy or obvious solution in Yemen beyond the continuing need to support relative moderates such as Hadi and to press for political solutions that can work rather than to simply be content with killing a few terrorists with airstrikes — which seems to be the Obama administration’s preferred approach to the entire Middle East.The administration’s policy can be characterized as general lethargy and disengagement punctuated by periodic outbursts of carefully targeted violence. This is a policy that cannot possibly work, and it hasn’t.

The administration hasn’t created the chaos that is gripping the Middle East — chaos that is a Petri dish for extremism — but it certainly hasn’t done much to stop it.

Even France’s president, Francois Hollande, is lambasting Obama (http://www.wsj.com/articles/france-takes-an-activist-line-in-the-muslim-world-1421873087) for creating a power vacuum in the Middle East. When a French socialist, of all people, is attacking him for not being interventionist enough, that should tell Obama something.

But if the State of the Union is any indication, he is feeling too cocky at the moment, because of better economic news, to seriously take onboard and address the catastrophic failure of his foreign policy in Yemen and beyond.


Read more: https://www.commentarymagazine.com/2015/01/22/yemen-model-goes-flames/#.VME0V-82lV8.twitter#ixzz3PaBrBPh9

Yemen is a dangerous situation, ISIS and AQAP are fighting for domination there:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/21/politics/isis-gaining-ground-in-yemen/


ISIS gaining ground in Yemen, competing with al Qaeda

By Brian Todd (http://www.cnn.com/profiles/brian-todd-profile), CNN

Updated 7:57 AM ET, Thu January 22, 2015

<cite class="el-editorial-source" style="box-sizing: border-box; font-family: CNN, 'Helvetica Neue', Verdana, Geneva, sans-serif; font-style: normal; font-weight: 700;">Washington (CNN)</cite>The Syria-based terror group ISIS is active and recruiting inside the Middle Eastern state of Yemen, already a hotbed of terrorist activity, CNN has learned.

The disturbing information comes from a Yemeni official, who told CNN on Wednesday that ISIS has a presence in at least three provinces in southern and central Yemen, and there is now a "real competition" between ISIS and the Yemen-based terror group al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, or AQAP.

That competition manifested itself in a gun-battle between the two groups in Yemen's eastern provinces last month, the same official said, though he did not have specifics on the casualties that resulted from that incident.

CNN cannot independently confirm the claims.

American officials do think ISIS is trying to recruit in Yemen. But one U.S. counter-terror official stressed the view that AQAP remains the dominant force there. The American intelligence view is that while there may be a smattering of ISIS loyalists among Sunni extremists in Yemen, they are likely "mid-level AQAP militants who are sympathetic to ISIL's vision but haven't broken ranks."

According to some experts, ISIS may be seeking a foothold in the Middle East's poorest country because of its historical importance.

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hjmick
01-22-2015, 04:50 PM
So Obama lost Yemen...

CSM
01-23-2015, 07:10 AM
So Obama lost Yemen...

LOL! and to think we are going to use that very same policy as a model going forward. Our "allies" may not survive two more years of US foreign policy!

fj1200
01-23-2015, 09:52 AM
I thought the Houthis removed the government.


Yemen’s Government Falls Amid Standoff (http://www.wsj.com/articles/yemens-government-falls-amid-standoff-1421919686?tesla=y)
Yemen’s president and cabinet resigned on Thursday amid a standoff with a powerful anti-American militia, signaling deep uncertainty for U.S. counterterrorism strategy in the country and the future of a drone program in what has become a cornerstone of the global war on terror.
The resignations come a day after the Houthi militia and President Abed Rabbo Mansour Hadi signed a deal that would see the minority group withdraw from government and military infrastructure in exchange for greater political power.

fj1200
01-23-2015, 10:00 AM
He has a funny definition of "worked."


In devising a plan in Iraq, U.S. looks to its Yemen model (http://www.latimes.com/world/middleeast/la-fg-obama-iraq-yemen-20140622-story.html#page=1)

The U.S. experience in Yemen has obvious appeal for a president who is loath to recommit major military resources to help Iraq less than three years after he withdrew all U.S. combat forces and ended America's eight-year war there."Yemen so far has worked," said Anthony Cordesman, a former intelligence director at the Pentagon now at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "It's not stable. It's not clear what direction it is moving in, but the U.S. has exercised considerable influence there."
Yet limits of the Yemen strategy are clear.
Despite an influx of military aid and nearly 100 drone strikes, plus about a dozen reported attacks with cruise missiles, since Obama took office, the U.S. effort has not eradicated the militant threat in Yemen, only contained it.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
01-23-2015, 10:44 AM
LOL! and to think we are going to use that very same policy as a model going forward. Our "allies" may not survive two more years of US foreign policy!

Very astute observation. Here is another one for ya..
Losing is the policy Obama actually wants when it is losing to America's enemies..
So he actually takes secret pride in such losses for this nation. That is the
game this puppet plays so well on the American populace..
Sad but true.. -Tyr

fj1200
01-23-2015, 11:46 AM
Very astute observation.

Of course it was. But thank you for contributing something new and interesting.

Bilgerat
01-23-2015, 11:55 AM
http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6973&stc=1

jimnyc
01-23-2015, 12:51 PM
Removed by terrorists? So there will be a difference now? With the amount of terrorists going to that country and calling it home...