In The Process of Changing My Mind?

[Kathianne]

Perhaps Obama may be impeached:

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/02/26/lawless-treasury-throws-unauthorized-3-billion-to-insurers-under-obamacare-wont-say-why/


Lawless: Treasury throws unauthorized $3 billion to insurers under Obamacare, won’t say why

POSTED AT 8:01 PM ON FEBRUARY 26, 2015 BY NOAH ROTHman


It’s right there in the Constitution: “No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.”

Which is why this latest episode of lawlessness from the administration so particularly galling. “The U.S. Treasury Department has rebuffed a request by House Ways and Means Chairman Rep. Paul Ryan, R- Wis., to explain $3 billion in payments that were made to health insurers even though Congress never authorized the spending through annual appropriations,” The Washington Examiner’s Philp Klein reported on Thursday (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/treasury-wont-explain-decision-to-make-3-billion-in-obamacare-payments/article/2560739).

That’s right. The payments insurers receive, dubbed “cost –sharing subsidies,” are designed to offset the costs incurred when they pick up the out-of-pocket expenses for low-income individuals covered by Affordable Care Act plans. If insurers had to cover these costs themselves, Obamacare would be infeasible. So, the federal government picks up the tab for the newly insured as they go about receiving “free” health care.

There’s just one tiny, unconstitutional problem: Congress never authorized the distribution of those funds. “[B]ut the Department of Health and Human Services, with the cooperation of the U.S. Treasury, made them anyway,” Klein reported.


In a Feb. 3 letter to Treasury Secretary Jack Lew, Ryan, along with House Energy and Commerce Committee Chair Rep. Fred Upton, R-Mich., asked for “a full explanation for, and all documents relating to” the administration’s decision to make the cost-sharing payments without congressional authorization.

In response, on Wednesday, the Treasury Department sent a letter to Ryan largely describing the program, without offering a detailed explanation of the decision to make the payments. The letter revealed that $2.997 billion in such payments had been made in 2014, but didn’t elaborate on where the money came from. Over the next decade, cost-sharing payments to insurers are projected by the Congressional Budget Office to cost taxpayers nearly $150 billion.



Click through to Klein’s report and read the whole thing. This pattern of behavior from administration officials staggering in its lawlessness and sets a dangerous precedent.

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[jimnyc]

Yet another overreach. Him being out of office in a couple of years is not enough. This has to be stopped. They are not "above" the law.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Yet another overreach. Him being out of office in a couple of years is not enough. This has to be stopped. They are not "above" the law.

WRONG!!!!

They are above the law and have been ever since the first Obama campaign accepted and used illegal foreign campaign contributions! And nothing was ever done about it--slippery slope began unabated and has now mushroomed . This ffing traitor does as he pleases and is back by our media, the dem party and most importantly the globalist, the damn globalists exert more power that our media and the dem party..-A tragic fact..
This nation is under extremely vicious attack from within and from foreign entities both economic, militant and ideological ..
No stopping that because they gained control of the education system and the media/dem party before starting in this deep with their agenda.
Gaffer and I used to talk IN DEPTH ABOUT THIS BY EMAIL. HE KNEW AS I DID, THE DEEPER SCORE.. Damn , I miss him everyday. One of the best men I've come to know in my life..-Tyr

[fj1200]

Perhaps Obama may be impeached:

It would be nice but I'm surprised those types of payments wouldn't already be authorized under ACA anyway. But will he be impeached by the House? Highly unlikely. Would he be convicted by the Senate? Never. I still think it's a fools errand for the Republicans to talk impeachment well before Congressional investigations and the like at least until Congress, including the Democrats, starts to care about itself as an institution.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

It would be nice but I'm surprised those types of payments wouldn't already be authorized under ACA anyway. But will he be impeached by the House? Highly unlikely. Would he be convicted by the Senate? Never. I still think it's a fools errand for the Republicans to talk impeachment well before Congressional investigations and the like at least until Congress, including the Democrats, starts to care about itself as an institution.

The mere fact that he is "untouchable" as far as impeachment goes points to the TRUTH of who and what he is! It also points to the power of the entity(globalist) that uses this puppet.

This attitude that one does not impeach because the deciding factor will never convict is also a sham. When government and the public start to agree that maintaining the Rule of Law is up for grabs and easily dismissed for convenience's sake the Republic is about to fall.
As of now we have a carefully controlled dictator implementing well organized agenda of destruction and change upon this nation.
This is not now and never was politics as usual. It is open treason that is made to look like incompetence, simple mistakes, political warfare and/or "sour grapes" .......

It is a socialist war waged undeclared and covered up by the media, the very government charged with this nation's sovereignty and protection.

It is treason and all involved should be arrested and charged with that violation.. Starting with the ffing bastard that is infecting our White house. -Tyr

[LongTermGuy]

`The below picture is WHY Obama will never be impeached. Because stupid people are simply, stupid. Trayvon the thug is killed by a guy who defended himself, with eyewitnesses testifying on his behalf. Text messages from Trayvon’s phone about a thug life that the defense is trying to KEEP OUT of the trial. Kicked out of the house. Selling drugs. Buying an ILLEGAL gun. Booted from school for being a shitbag. But the below morons, like the clown who cheered for OJ, think poor little Trayvon was wronged.

And these nitwits are the same reason that the SCOTUS refused to hear ANYTHING on Obama’s various bogus” now sealed records. (Hint: race riots) These are the same kind of dipshits who think voter fraud is okay, as long as it was for a half black scumbag from <del style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Kenya</del>, <del style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Indonesia</del>, <del style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Hawaii</del>, Shitcago, or some fucking place. And we wonder why Newark, Trenton, Compton, Filthadelphia, DC, Detroit, Oakland, Richmond CA, and a whole host of black run cities are in the shitter.

The Democrud Party uses them like asswipe and when they’re done using them, they forget about them, until the next election that is.`
`THE ONLY IDIOTS MISSING ARE THE RACE PIMPS
JESSE AND AL`

http://www.theantiliberalzone.com/2013/06/09/why-obama-will-never-get-impeached/

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8651362.ece/BINARY/original/34-Shirley-Jackson-Getty.jpg

[revelarts]

Yet another overreach. Him being out of office in a couple of years is not enough. This has to be stopped. They are not "above" the law.
sarcasm alert
A president overreaches, acts "above the law" you say? not following the constitution?!!:eek:

well he's the president i'm SURE he knows more about the situation than we do. All kinds of TOP secret stuff.
anyway he's just Trying to keep America safe... opps i mean keep America healthy!!!
he's the CiC he can do stuff

If it means ONE less America life sacrificed , well then, i'm all for tortur... I mean... HEALTH CARE!
sarcasm ended


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYdJqSG3K6c
"if the president does it, that means it's not illegal"
Nixon, Clinton, Bush, Obama all agree here.

And U.S. citizens only see it as a problem when a president from the other party does it.
When "our" guy does it. well --it's for the good of the the country--- , ---congress was moving to slow---,---the constitution is not a suicide pack--- or some other LEGAL language like that.
May boss asked "well what good would impeachment do the country?"

Ds and Rs all find rationals to overlook presidents pissing on the constitution.

and the beat goes on

[Kathianne]

Yet another overreach. Him being out of office in a couple of years is not enough. This has to be stopped. They are not "above" the law.

Indeed Jim, you are correct, King is coming to SCOTUS in March, expected to be decided by June:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/treasury-wont-explain-decision-to-make-3-billion-in-obamacare-payments/article/2560739


The U.S. Treasury Department has rebuffed a request by House Ways and Means Chairman Rep. Paul Ryan, R- Wis., to explain $3 billion in payments that were made to health insurers even though Congress never authorized the spending through annual appropriations.

At issue are payments to insurers known as cost-sharing subsidies. These payments come about because President Obama’s healthcare law forces insurers to limit out-of-pocket costs for certain low income individuals by capping consumer expenses, such as deductibles and co-payments, in insurance policies. In exchange for capping these charges, insurers are supposed to receive compensation.


What’s tricky is that Congress never authorized any money to make such payments to insurers in its annual appropriations, but the Department of Health and Human Services, with the cooperation of the U.S. Treasury, made them anyway.

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http://www.wsj.com/articles/ilya-shapiro-and-josh-blackman-a-litmus-test-for-obamacare-and-the-rule-of-law-1424997418


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The president has ignored the law’s plain language. Now the Supreme Court decides if that’s all right.



</header>By ILYA SHAPIRO And
JOSH BLACKMAN

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This spring will mark the 800th anniversary of the signing of the Magna Carta, the landmark agreement by King John of England at Runnymede ceding certain rights to rebel barons. Liberty will have another chance to shine on Wednesday when the Supreme Court hears a case with momentous implications about another sort of executive power. In this instance, though, it is the rebels who have the royal name: King v. Burwell raises questions about how President Obama has enforced the ObamaCare law—or, more precisely, modified, delayed and suspended it.

This will be the third challenge to the Affordable Care Act to reach the court. But King is different. The law’s constitutionality was challenged in NFIB v. Sebelius, 2012, and the way certain regulations burden particular types of plaintiffs was addressed by Burwell v. Hobby Lobby last year. Now comes King, challenging the administration’s implementation of the law. Even though the ACA gives wide latitude to the executive branch over implementation, its most important parts—coverage rules, mandates and subsidies—were addressed by Congress with specific dates, formulas and other directions. None of these provisions has gone into effect as Congress designed, simply because the plan conflicted with the president’s political calculus.

...


King focuses on the subsidies that help people pay increased premiums, one ACA pillar that the administration has toppled. Because Congress couldn’t constitutionally command states to establish exchanges, it authorized these credits for people who buy insurance “through an Exchange established by the State.” If a state didn’t establish an exchange, its residents—who would instead use the federal exchange Healthcare.gov—wouldn’t be eligible for subsidies.

But a funny thing happened on the way to utopia: Only 14 states set up exchanges, meaning that the text of the law denied subsidies in nearly three quarters of the states. This result was untenable to an administration intent on pain-free implementation. And so the administration engaged in its own lawmaking process, issuing an Internal Revenue Service rule that nullified the relevant ACA provision, making subsidies available in all states.

...


King, which the Supreme Court is expected to decide in June, is thus about much more than interpreting statutory language or evaluating the “deference” that judges owe bureaucrats. It isn’t a technical debate over the finer points of administrative law; it is an existential one about the rule of law itself.

Chief Justice John Roberts (http://topics.wsj.com/person/R/John-Roberts/7417)was correct in 2012 when he wrote in the NFIB v. Sebelius decision that it isn’t the court’s role to “express any opinion on the wisdom of the Affordable Care Act.”

But he also correctly noted “the Framers created a Federal Government of limited powers, and assigned to this Court the duty of enforcing those limits.” The court’s duty is to be a bulwark against arbitrary rule.

This is especially true in disputes between the political branches; the judiciary thus provides the ultimate safeguard of the separation of powers. Or, as Justice Robert Jackson put it in the famous Youngstown case of 1952 that rebuked President Truman ’s unilateral seizure of steel mills: “With all its defects, delays and inconveniences, men have discovered no technique for long preserving free government except that the Executive be under the law, and that the law be made by parliamentary deliberations. Such institutions may be destined to pass away. But it is the duty of the Court to be last, not first, to give them up.”

The president has shown deliberate indifference toward the plain text of the law. The Supreme Court must strike down the IRS rule and confirm the principle that, like King John at Runnymede, all political leaders are bound by the rule of law.

Mr. Shapiro is a senior fellow in constitutional studies at the Cato Institute. Mr. Blackman is a constitutional law professor at the South Texas College of Law in Houston. They recently filed a brief on Cato’s behalf in King v. Burwell.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

sarcasm alert
A president overreaches, acts "above the law" you say? not following the constitution?!!:eek:

well he's the president i'm SURE he knows more about the situation than we do. All kinds of TOP secret stuff.
anyway he's just Trying to keep America safe... opps i mean keep America healthy!!!
he's the CiC he can do stuff

If it means ONE less America life sacrificed then well then i'm all for tortur... I mean... HEALTH CARE!
sarcasm ended


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYdJqSG3K6c
"if the president does it, that means it's not illegal"
Nixon, Clinton, Bush, Obama all agree here.

but the U.S. citizens only see it as a problem when a president from the other party does it.
When there guy does it. well it's for the good of the the country , congress was moving to slow, "the constitution is not a suicide pack" is what many R's during the Bush admin told me.
May boss asked "well what good would impeachment do the country?"


Ds and Rs all find rationals to overlooks presidents pissing on the constitution.

and the beat goes on

Stated as you pretend that this ffing maggot, ffing traitor is no different than other Presidents!!!

Surely you are not this damn blind!!

If you are then I have greatly misjudged you.. --Tyr

[revelarts]

Stated as you pretend that this ffing maggot, ffing traitor is no different than other Presidents!!!
Surely you are not this damn blind!!
If you are then I have greatly misjudged you.. --Tyr
No, i don't think i see nearly as much difference as you do Tyr.
I'm pretty sure of that.

but just a moemory jogger of what i think Tyr.
http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?46688-Coulter-Idiots-Who-Vote-Libertarian-Will-Cost-GOP-The-Senate

http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?47105-Crumbling-Constitution&p=710071#post710071

[hjmick]

Some day in the future, near or far, there will be a Republican president. This president, like his or her predecessor, will take into office what they have learned from this president. They will use the power of the pen to enact unpopular rules and policies. It is then that those who have stood quietly by, or in some cases in defense of, President Obama during his spate of questionable actions will scream loudly in protest.

[Kathianne]

Some day in the future, near or far, there will be a Republican president. This president, like his or her predecessor, will take into office what they have learned from this president. They will use the power of the pen to enact unpopular rules and policies. It is then that those who have stood quietly by, or in some cases in defense of, President Obama during his spate of questionable actions will scream loudly in protest.

I've said the same many times, impeachment is not a 'tool' to get rid of a president whom's decisions one disagrees with. Heck, from the time he led the partisan push for Obamacare, there were many calling for his impeachment, when asked what he'd done 'illegally, silence.

Same with the pullout of Iraq. Legal if foreseeable in being wrong.

Executive orders within the scope of powers? Yep, for the most part.

However when Congress chooses by vote to not do what he believes should be done, usurping their powers? Pushing and hopefully the courts will step in and settle it.

When he takes legislation passed, Obamacare, and changes implementation dates, provides waivers, etc., outside of that legislation by executive orders? More than pushing it, which is part of what will be decided by SCOTUS ruling of King.

Now that it's been shown that Treasury has been paying insurance companies, though not budgeted, more than pushing and is prohibited by the Constitution, also going to be addressed by King.

Ordering ICE agents not to enforce the laws regarding 'deport/not deport' lists provided by the executive order, in spite of federal court order, usurpation of judicial powers.

The list of reasons to consider impeachment grows, whether or not it will come to that?

[indago]

When government and the public start to agree that maintaining the Rule of Law is up for grabs and easily dismissed for convenience's sake the Republic is about to fall.

nation. . . . . . . . . . . . . .perversions, dilution, outsourcing, corruption
http://i59.tinypic.com/3088xg3.jpg


As perversions, dilution, outsourcing, and corruption grow, the nation descends into decay

[PixieStix]

obama, has violated his oath.

“I Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Over and over he has violated his oath.

He is an enemy America.

The process of impeachment should have started long ago. I am continually disappointed that our government has failed us in protecting our Constitution and our way of life

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

obama, has violated his oath.

“I Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Over and over he has violated his oath.

He is an enemy America.

The process of impeachment should have started long ago. I am continually disappointed that our government has failed us in protecting our Constitution and our way of life

Dead on the mark! :beer: :salute: :beer:

Notice all the excuses given for the cowards that refuse to impeach him?

Do the right thing flew out the window with such people. When that happens and all hell breaks loose they'll be the first to cry loudest and blame others IMHO!!

The Obama systematically attacks the Constitution, Rule of Law and our culture, yet these people cry "do nothing about it, he'll will be gone soon". Sheer stupidity in my opinion.
As it negates and ignores the destruction he can and will do the next two years!
Iran nukes is just one example of his treason, there are many others! -TYR

[PixieStix]

The short list of impeachable offenses

Obamacare

Immigration

Benghazi

Fast and Furious

Surveillance

[jimnyc]

Stated as you pretend that this ffing maggot, ffing traitor is no different than other Presidents!!!

Surely you are not this damn blind!!

If you are then I have greatly misjudged you.. --Tyr

He just wanted to play the "gotcha" game with me and attempt to look smart while mimicking quotes again. The turd has been playing those games for years. Why I'm being quoted and responded to, and mimicked again, when he knows full well I separated the issue with the ignore option, is completely beyond me.

[DLT]

Perhaps Obama may be impeached:

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/02/26/lawless-treasury-throws-unauthorized-3-billion-to-insurers-under-obamacare-wont-say-why/

Who needs congress any more? King Barry will just issue an edict to the royal coffers and direct the treasury to pay off...er...out "x" amount to whomever he pleases whenever he pleases.

This is no longer America, folks. There has (apparently) been a silent and invisible coup.

Pitchfork time YET??????

[DLT]

Yet another overreach. Him being out of office in a couple of years is not enough. This has to be stopped. They are not "above" the law.

Who's gonna stop him? John Weepy Boehner? Mitch/bitch McConnell? Not bloody likely.

It's over, I'm afraid. When you have a rogue president that nobody has the guts or the honor or the fortitude to reign in ....

we've lost the republic. The commies have won....

finally.

[DLT]

`The below picture is WHY Obama will never be impeached. Because stupid people are simply, stupid. Trayvon the thug is killed by a guy who defended himself, with eyewitnesses testifying on his behalf. Text messages from Trayvon’s phone about a thug life that the defense is trying to KEEP OUT of the trial. Kicked out of the house. Selling drugs. Buying an ILLEGAL gun. Booted from school for being a shitbag. But the below morons, like the clown who cheered for OJ, think poor little Trayvon was wronged.

And these nitwits are the same reason that the SCOTUS refused to hear ANYTHING on Obama’s various bogus” now sealed records. (Hint: race riots) These are the same kind of dipshits who think voter fraud is okay, as long as it was for a half black scumbag from <del style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Kenya</del>, <del style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Indonesia</del>, <del style="border: 0px; font-family: inherit; font-style: inherit; font-weight: inherit; margin: 0px; outline: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: baseline;">Hawaii</del>, Shitcago, or some fucking place. And we wonder why Newark, Trenton, Compton, Filthadelphia, DC, Detroit, Oakland, Richmond CA, and a whole host of black run cities are in the shitter.

The Democrud Party uses them like asswipe and when they’re done using them, they forget about them, until the next election that is.`
`THE ONLY IDIOTS MISSING ARE THE RACE PIMPS
JESSE AND AL`

http://www.theantiliberalzone.com/2013/06/09/why-obama-will-never-get-impeached/

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article8651362.ece/BINARY/original/34-Shirley-Jackson-Getty.jpg

I find it ironic that those idiotic blacks are demanding justice for Trayvon....

when he got his justice....

good & plenty...and very deservedly so.

Same for Michael Brown. They got the same justice that any whitey would have gotten under the same circumstances. And THAT is the reality they can't handle. That they aren't special, no matter how hard they try to push that "Victim" card.

[DLT]

obama, has violated his oath.

“I Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

Over and over he has violated his oath.

He is an enemy America.

The process of impeachment should have started long ago. I am continually disappointed that our government has failed us in protecting our Constitution and our way of life

Oh....I suspect that you/we ain't seen nuthin yet re: that "failure to protect". Prepare, as best that you can, for the worst.

[revelarts]

A previous look at impeachment here.
http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?34511-International-Permission%92-Trumps-Congressional-Permission-For-Military-Actions/page2

[jimnyc]

I find it ironic that those idiotic blacks are demanding justice for Trayvon....

when he got his justice....

good & plenty...and very deservedly so.

Same for Michael Brown. They got the same justice that any whitey would have gotten under the same circumstances. And THAT is the reality they can't handle. That they aren't special, no matter how hard they try to push that "Victim" card.

None of that matters if you can whine and cry - as an excuse to loot and shoot. Justice means free stuff!! :rolleyes:

[fj1200]

The mere fact that he is "untouchable" as far as impeachment goes points to the TRUTH of who and what he is! It also points to the power of the entity(globalist) that uses this puppet.

This attitude that one does not impeach because the deciding factor will never convict is also a sham. When government and the public start to agree that maintaining the Rule of Law is up for grabs and easily dismissed for convenience's sake the Republic is about to fall.
As of now we have a carefully controlled dictator implementing well organized agenda of destruction and change upon this nation.
This is not now and never was politics as usual. It is open treason that is made to look like incompetence, simple mistakes, political warfare and/or "sour grapes" .......

It is a socialist war waged undeclared and covered up by the media, the very government charged with this nation's sovereignty and protection.

It is treason and all involved should be arrested and charged with that violation.. Starting with the ffing bastard that is infecting our White house. -Tyr

:rolleyes: Why do I bother to talk to you?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

:rolleyes: Why do I bother to talk to you?

Could be because you'd rather present lies than the truth..
Tell me pray tell which part about the obastard did I get wrong..-Tyr

[Abbey Marie]

It would be nice but I'm surprised those types of payments wouldn't already be authorized under ACA anyway. But will he be impeached by the House? Highly unlikely. Would he be convicted by the Senate? Never. I still think it's a fools errand for the Republicans to talk impeachment well before Congressional investigations and the like at least until Congress, including the Democrats, starts to care about itself as an institution.

One can dream...

[fj1200]

Could be because you'd rather present lies than the truth..
Tell me pray tell which part about the obastard did I get wrong..-Tyr

I'll just answer for you:


:blah: ... traitor... treason... Aack Globalists... Aack Muzzies... Aack gays... Aack lefties...

https://soowhatnow.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/hair-on-fire.jpg

[fj1200]

One can dream...

One can always dream, it just makes no sense to live in a delusion.

[Abbey Marie]

One can always dream, it just makes no sense to live in a delusion.

Why are you hatin' on Dr. King? ;)

[Drummond]

The short list of impeachable offenses

Obamacare

Immigration

Benghazi

Fast and Furious

Surveillance







I'd add to that his public announcement / advance warning of his intention to withdraw all forces from Iraq, that giving a KNOWN ENEMY OF AMERICA ample opportunity to plan, plot in such a way that America and Western powers could hardly fail to be disadvantaged by it. To give an ENEMY such a tactical advantage, so blatantly ... does it get more impeachable than that ??

I find it staggering that Obama got away with that one. Tyr is exactly right .. Obama's a traitor, pure & simple !

We see the reality today, with the successes ISIS has had. But, still no accountability on the horizon ...

[sundaydriver]

I'd add to that his public announcement / advance warning of his intention to withdraw all forces from Iraq, that giving a KNOWN ENEMY OF AMERICA ample opportunity to plan, plot in such a way that America and Western powers could hardly fail to be disadvantaged by it. To give an ENEMY such a tactical advantage, so blatantly ... does it get more impeachable than that ??

I find it staggering that Obama got away with that one. Tyr is exactly right .. Obama's a traitor, pure & simple !

We see the reality today, with the successes ISIS has had. But, still no accountability on the horizon ...

U.S.–Iraq Status of Forces Agreement (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement)

Called for the removal of US troops by December 31, 2011. Signed by G.W. Bush in 2008 and all troops were removed by December 18, 2011 by Obama. ;)

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I'll just answer for you:

Your rejection of the truth needs no new evidence but I see that you just can not help yourself can you?

Head in the sand may be a damn comforting way to go until the enemy comes in contact with you and then reality bites your ass very hard. You can jackass bray all you want until that day but on that day the harsh reality will most likely end you life.
Evil uses useful idiots and craven fools until its time to eliminate them.
History shows the payoff they almost always get!
My self, Id rather die fighting for the right causes than die as a blind weasel devoid of any backbone, common sense or Iron principles worth dying for..-Tyr

[avatar4321]

The president won't be impeached. He could murder people on national television and our leaders would not have the political will to remove him from power.

I have come to a come to the conclusion that we should focus our energy on empowering ourselves and governing ourselves. The more power we have the less he does

[fj1200]

Why are you hatin' on Dr. King? ;)

:confused:

His dream is achievable... or so I thought. The internet is a nasty place.

[fj1200]

Called for the removal of US troops by December 31, 2011. Signed by G.W. Bush in 2008 and all troops were removed by December 18, 2011 by Obama. ;)


I have come to a come to the conclusion that we should focus our energy on empowering ourselves and governing ourselves. The more power we have the less he does

Clearly you two are lefties.

[fj1200]

:blah: truth :blah:

I can see where you're confused.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

:confused:

His dream is achievable... or so I thought. The internet is a nasty place.
The internet just reflects the world. The world is a nasty and a very, very dangerous place. Most that try to base their lives upon Christian principles have seen this racing into destruction for the last 40/50 years as our government has constantly attacked God and his people!
So much so that it now embraces Islam with preference and unceasingly attacks the Christians..
Sorry to burst your bubble with such truth but somebody has to shine a little light your way. Walking in such "darkness" you may stumble and fall , breaking your freaking neck. ;)--Tyr

[fj1200]

The internet just reflects the world.

:bla:

Thank you for proving the truth of my post:


I'll just answer for you:


:blah: ... traitor... treason... Aack Globalists... Aack Muzzies... Aack gays... Aack lefties...

https://soowhatnow.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/hair-on-fire.jpg

Nevertheless the internet removes the filters that most people have on what they think vs. what they'll say. Instead of looking for truth people just look for others who think the same way that they do.

[Drummond]

Thank you for proving the truth of my post:



Nevertheless the internet removes the filters that most people have on what they think vs. what they'll say. Instead of looking for truth people just look for others who think the same way that they do.

You mean, as YOU do ?

Still ... 'not' attacking Conservatives here ?

[aboutime]

The president won't be impeached. He could murder people on national television and our leaders would not have the political will to remove him from power.

I have come to a come to the conclusion that we should focus our energy on empowering ourselves and governing ourselves. The more power we have the less he does


Truth is. White Americans who call themselves members of both houses of Congress, all fear Obama.

They know, any attempt to impeach Obama would instantly be the signal Obama wants, and needs, to declare Martial Law...as EVERY BLACK AMERICAN who voted for him several times, would take to the streets, to burn, kill, and destroy their own neighborhoods without any POLICE intervention, since Obama's own Police Force, from the Black Panthers would prevent REAL police officers from doing anything.
Meanwhile, as AMERICA Burns again, much like Ferguson, and WATTS did many years ago.
ANARCHY, and MOB RULE will instantly cause the END of the U.S.A. we all know...forever.
Anyone who thinks it's a joke, or just an Old Man, like me, blowing smoke, Crying Wolf, or creating another Conspiracy theory for the ILLITERATE among us....go right ahead.
You've ignored Obama destroying America since 2008. Why should today be any different.?

[avatar4321]

Clearly you two are lefties.

I am for empowering ourselves instead of the government and I am a lefty?

You're going to have to explain that one to me.

[avatar4321]

Truth is. White Americans who call themselves members of both houses of Congress, all fear Obama.

They know, any attempt to impeach Obama would instantly be the signal Obama wants, and needs, to declare Martial Law...as EVERY BLACK AMERICAN who voted for him several times, would take to the streets, to burn, kill, and destroy their own neighborhoods without any POLICE intervention, since Obama's own Police Force, from the Black Panthers would prevent REAL police officers from doing anything.
Meanwhile, as AMERICA Burns again, much like Ferguson, and WATTS did many years ago.
ANARCHY, and MOB RULE will instantly cause the END of the U.S.A. we all know...forever.
Anyone who thinks it's a joke, or just an Old Man, like me, blowing smoke, Crying Wolf, or creating another Conspiracy theory for the ILLITERATE among us....go right ahead.
You've ignored Obama destroying America since 2008. Why should today be any different.?

I don't believe that for a second. I don't think black America would take to the streets like you think. I do think progressives and the.media would try to get them to.

[Gunny]

It would be nice but I'm surprised those types of payments wouldn't already be authorized under ACA anyway. But will he be impeached by the House? Highly unlikely. Would he be convicted by the Senate? Never. I still think it's a fools errand for the Republicans to talk impeachment well before Congressional investigations and the like at least until Congress, including the Democrats, starts to care about itself as an institution.

We are replaying the 1990s. Same accusations, same do nothing. Obama should be nailed and so should Hillary. Their are Constitutional and legal grounds for both. I won't hold my breath.

[fj1200]

You mean, as YOU do ?

Still ... 'not' attacking Conservatives here ?

Hey idiot, still copping out on the specifics? Tell me which conservatives am I "attacking" that are to weak to defend themselves?

[fj1200]

I am for empowering ourselves instead of the government and I am a lefty?

You're going to have to explain that one to me.

:laugh: No, you're a leftie because your first instinct is NOT to devolve into hate-filled rants. :)


We are replaying the 1990s. Same accusations, same do nothing. Obama should be nailed and so should Hillary. Their are Constitutional and legal grounds for both. I won't hold my breath.

I don't disagree in the slightest. Until Congress cares about its own Constitutional role then nothing will happen.

[Gunny]

Yet another overreach. Him being out of office in a couple of years is not enough. This has to be stopped. They are not "above" the law.

I agree. BUT .... Biden has to go with him. Can use the Dem's gameplan from 1973. Get rid of the VP on a pretext, THEN get rid of the Prez.

[Drummond]

Hey idiot, still copping out on the specifics? Tell me which conservatives am I "attacking" that are to weak to defend themselves?

Excellent. Even when you don't mean to, you just can't help yourself. Can you ?

The idea that there are Conservatives here too (note spelling) weak to defend themselves from you, is an idea OF YOUR INVENTION. It is, in itself, insulting.

But the insult doesn't put you off. Quite the opposite. I'm sure you enjoyed suggesting it ...

[fj1200]

... :blah: ...

Still whining like a moron I see... and avoiding the obvious (see below). ;) Besides, you being the only whining speaks to your perpetual lie.


Hey idiot, still copping out on the specifics?