One pilot left cockpit, and apparently got locked out; tried to break the door down

[Little-Acorn]

Well, well.

Seems that one pilot left the cockpit for a moment. And when he tried to go back in, he apparently found the door locked.

He can be heard on the recorder, trying to break the door down, before the crash.

I guess I have just one question:
Was the other pilot (who remained in the cockpit and apparently locked the first pilot out), Islamic?

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http://news.yahoo.com/black-box-1st-clues-alpine-jet-crash-killed-064937383.html

Report: France jet audio shows pilot locked out of cockpit

Associated Press
By GREG KELLER and ELAINE GANLEY
3 hours ago

SEYNE-LES-ALPES, France (AP) — The first half of Germanwings Flight 9525 was chilling in its normalcy. It took off from Barcelona en route to Duesseldorf, climbing up over the Mediterranean and turning over France. The last communication was a routine request to continue on its route.

Minutes later, at 10:30 a.m. Tuesday, the Airbus A320 inexplicably began to descend. Within 10 minutes it had plunged from its cruising altitude of 38,000 feet to just over 6,000 feet and slammed into a remote mountainside.

To find out why, investigators have been analyzing the mangled black box that contains an audio recording from the cockpit. Remi Jouty, the head of France's accident investigation bureau BEA, said Wednesday that it has yielded sounds and voices, but so far not the "slightest explanation" of why the plane crashed, killing all 150 on board.

A newspaper report, however, suggests the audio contains intriguing information at the least: One of the pilots is heard leaving the cockpit, then banging on the door with increasing urgency in an unsuccessful attempt to get back in.

"The guy outside is knocking lightly on the door and there is no answer," The New York Times quotes an unidentified investigator as saying. "And then he hits the door stronger and no answer. There is never an answer."

Eventually, the newspaper quotes the investigator as saying: "You can hear he is trying to smash the door down."

The investigator, whom the newspaper said could not be identified because the investigation is continuing, said officials don't know why the pilot left. He also does not speculate on why the other pilot didn't open the door or make contact with ground control before the crash.

Since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, airlines in the U.S. don't leave one pilot alone in the cockpit. The standard operating procedure is that if one of the pilots leaves — for example to use the bathroom — a flight attendant takes their spot in the cockpit. It was not immediately clear if European airlines have adopted the same practice.

The names of the pilots have not been released.

[jimnyc]

Either it was a terror attack, or the other pilot was disabled due to the air pressure or whatever. I'm leaning towards terror... why wouldn't the other pilot have been affected? I'm curious to learn about the pilots, will go look in a few...

[Kathianne]

Either it was a terror attack, or the other pilot was disabled due to the air pressure or whatever. I'm leaning towards terror... why wouldn't the other pilot have been affected? I'm curious to learn about the pilots, will go look in a few...

French spokesman on TV: It was 'deliberate.' Co-pilot was alive and breathing upon impact. Screams of terror evident, pilot trying to bridge door.'

Either terrorism or suicide/murder.

[jimnyc]

Audio from the mangled voice recorder of Germanwings Flight 9525 reveals the captain was locked out of the cockpit while the co-pilot appeared to make a deliberate attempt to destroy the plane, Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin said Thursday.

The co-pilot of the doomed Germanwings flight "activated the descent" of the plane when he was alone in the cockpit, Robin said. That can only be done deliberately, he said.

But although it seems the co-pilot wanted to destroy the aircraft, as of now, there's "nothing to allow us to say that it was a terrorist attack," he said.

Robin said the co-pilot was a German national and not on any terrorism list. He named him as Andreas Lubitz.

When a reporter asked Robin whether he knew Lubitz's religion, Robin said that he did not know.

The most plausible explanation of the crash is that the co-pilot "through deliberate abstention, refused to open the cabin door ... to the chief pilot, and used the button" to cause the plane to lose altitude, Robin said.

Screaming could be heard on the audio recording only in the last few minutes, and death was instantaneous for those on board, he said.

He emphasized that his conclusions were preliminary.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/26/europe/france-germanwings-plane-crash-main/index.html

[Little-Acorn]

So far, the officials are not saying anything about the co-pilot's religion.

They are very pointedly not discussing that subject.

One wonders why.

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https://news.yahoo.com/andreas-lubitz--what-we-know-about-the-co-pilot-of-airbus-320-123246684.html

Andreas Lubitz: What we know so far about the co-pilot of Airbus 320

Yahoo News
By Simon Garner
2 hours ago

French prosecutors confirm co-pilot Andreas Lubitz "wanted to destroy" the Germanwings flight that crashed in the French Alps, killing all 150 people on board. But who was Lubitz?

WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR:

- Lubitz was a trusted pilot, who aviation authorities considered a "positive example".

- Described by acquaintances as quiet but friendly, the 28-year-old began to dream of flying as a youth in his home town of Montabaur, in the Rhineland-Palatinate region of western Germany.

- Marseille prosecutor Brice Robin said the co-pilot was alone at the controls and "intentionally" sent the plane into the doomed descent.

- He said pounding could be heard on the cockpit door during the final eight minutes before the crash as alarms sounded. Lubitz depressed the lock in the cockpit, preventing the pilot from operating the override code.

- Lufthansa still do not know Lubitz's motivation for causing the A320 crash. Chief executive Carsten Spohr told a press conference on Thursday: 'We can only speculate on what might have been the motivation of the co-pilot. What has happened is a tragic individual event.'

- Lubitz "voluntarily" refused to open the door and his breathing was normal throughout the final minutes of the flight.

- Mr Robin said the co-pilot's responses before the captain had left him alone in the cockpit were initially courteous, but became "curt" when the captain began the mid-flight briefing on the planned landing.

- Asked whether he believed the crash that killed 150 people was the result of suicide, Mr Robin said: "People who commit suicide usually do so alone....I don't call it a suicide."

- He refused to give details on his religion, saying: "I don't think it's necessarily what we should be looking for."

- Lubitz is a German national who has never been flagged as a terrorist. Lufthansa's regular security checks turned up nothing untoward on the co-pilot.

[sundaydriver]

I'm waiting for the Flight Data Recorder data.

[Kathianne]

Germany, like most of Europe is not as religious as US.

Religion in Germany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Germany)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Germany#cite_note-REMID-1)
Christianity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity)
(62%
Islam (5%)
Other (1%)
Not affiliated (32%)

[Little-Acorn]

Germany, like most of Europe is not as religious as US.

Religion in Germany (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Germany)[1] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Germany#cite_note-REMID-1)
Christianity (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity)
(62%
Islam (5%)
Other (1%)
Not affiliated (32%)


How religious do they have to be, for one Islamic nutcase to come across the border?

[Kathianne]

How religious do they have to be, for one Islamic nutcase to come across the border?
It may well be he was; then again he may have just been suicidal/homicidal. I get tired of hearing about 'terrible accidents' that aren't accidents and terrorism that isn't politically/religion motivated.

[LongTermGuy]

` I get tired of hearing about 'terrible accidents' that aren't accidents and terrorism that is motivated by the cult of Islam `

[Kathianne]

` I get tired of hearing about 'terrible accidents' that aren't accidents and terrorism that is motivated by the cult of Islam `

Islamicism is the worst, by far. Eco-terrorism has a pretty bad history. I for one would not be surprised to see racially based or economically based terrorism ahead in our country.

[gabosaurus]

There are always more logical reasons, like personal battles with depression.
But there are some idiots who are so consumed with hatred towards certain causes and religions that they will use any excuse to cast blame.
Leaves you wondering about their own religious beliefs.

http://nypost.com/2015/03/26/co-pilot-who-intentionally-destroyed-plane-wanted-to-fly-since-childhood/

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

They ARE refusing to answer what his religion was!!!
Any guesses as to why?????
Can only be one answer-the bastard was muslim convert..
He took a 6 month break a few years ago, see a pattern here.
I'll bet anybody here 20 bucks not only was he muslim but they are lying about his silence during the crash-bet another 20 bucks the piece of shit was yelling Allah Akbar!!

Anybody gullible enough to believe the cover-up coming needs serious help..
They will do their best to keep his religion from ever being known..
That's the going policy to aid the stinking muslims!!--Tyr

[LongTermGuy]

They ARE refusing to answer what his religion was!!!
Any guesses as to why?????
Can only be one answer-the bastard was muslim convert..
He took a 6 month break a few years ago, see a pattern here.
I'll bet anybody here 20 bucks not only was he muslim but they are lying about his silence during the crash-bet another 20 bucks the piece of shit was yelling Allah Akbar!!

Anybody gullible enough to believe the cover-up coming needs serious help..
They will do their best to keep his religion from ever being known..
That's the going policy to aid the stinking muslims!!--Tyr


...oh it will come out ...*if that is the case...stay tuned...

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

...oh it will come out ...*if that is the case...stay tuned...

No it will not. This is from an article about the murdering bastard's medical condition(supposed medical condition)!
Notice how they slipped in the last part??




Herrenbrueck said other medical documents found indicated "an existing illness and appropriate medical treatment," but that no suicide note was found. He added there was no indication of any political or religious motivation for Lubitz's actions.

Myself, I knew if he was muslim that they would come up with a cover-up reason why he did it to divert away.
So why didn't they name the illness or state why that illness would lead one to suicide?

This is a multi-billion dollar matter. Those European nations joined to create the airbus and its important to point to the pilot and not mechanical failure but also important not to scare by showing it was a jihad attack by a muslim.

In short, almost definite that we are being lied to by the authorities for a host of reasons- primarily money and that ever present , deny the attacks are muslim. -Tyr

[Kathianne]

Not confirmed, but figure might as well put it out there:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/breaking-german-news-germanwings-airbus-co-pilot-was-muslim-convert/?PageSpeed=noscript


GERMAN NEWS REPORT: Co-Pilot of Germanwings Airbus Was MUSLIM CONVERT …’Hero of Islamic State’?Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, March 26, 2015, 9:48 PM...A German news website claims Andreas Lubitz was a Muslim convert.Speisa.com (http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.1086/the-co-pilot-of-the-germanwings-airbus-was-a-convert-to-islam.html) reported:

According to Michael Mannheimer, a writer for German PI-News, Germany now has its own 9/11, thanks to the convert to Islam, Andreas Lubitz.
Translation from German:
All evidence indicates that the copilot of Airbus machine in his six-months break during his training as a pilot in Germanwings, converted to Islam and subsequently either by the order of “radical”, ie. devout Muslims , or received the order from the book of terror, the Quran, on his own accord decided to carry out this mass murder. As a radical mosque in Bremen is in the center of the investigation, in which the convert was staying often, it can be assumed that he – as Mohammed Atta, in the attack against New York – received his instructions directly from the immediate vicinity of the mosque.
Converts are the most important weapon of Islam. Because their resume do not suggests that they often are particularly violent Muslims. Thus Germany now has its own 9/11, but in a reduced form. And so it is clear that Islam is a terrorist organization that are in accordance with §129a of the Criminal Code to prohibit it and to investigate its followers. But nothing will happen. One can bet that the apologists (media, politics, “Islamic Scholars”) will agree to assign this an act of a “mentally unstable” man, and you can bet that now, once again the mantra of how supposedly peaceful Islam is will continue. And worse still, the attacks by the left against those who have always warned against Islam, will be angrier and merciless.
For now the German Islam supporters like never before have their backs against the wall.
Michael Mannheimer, 26.3.2015
Apparently from the comments (http://www.pi-news.net/2015/03/german-wings-absturz-kapitaen-aus-cockpit-ausgesperrt-suizid-des-co-piloten/) at German PI – Andreas Lubitz was Muslim convert from his Facebook page...

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Not confirmed, but figure might as well put it out there:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/03/breaking-german-news-germanwings-airbus-co-pilot-was-muslim-convert/?PageSpeed=noscript

See my previous post.. written before this news came to light.
So they could not stop it from coming out.
I knew when you add 2+4+4 and come up with 10 you are right..
This is islam, its a cult that murders to ADVANCE--ALWAYS HAS BEEN.

If its the peaceful entity its stupid defenders present why do so many muslim converts engage in jihad?
or race away to go fight somewhere around the globe.

Here is why folks--the highest calling in Islam is-Jihad!
And Jihad is- --simply put--- kill the non-believers!!!!!! -Tyr

[gabosaurus]

You can trust right wing blogs looking for hits. Or you can trust the facts.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/mar/27/germanwings-crash-details-emerge-of-the-co-pilot-who-crashed-his-plane-live-updates

[gabosaurus]

http://www.tagesspiegel.de/weltspiegel/absturz-von-flug-4u9525-andreas-l-am-flugtag-wegen-depressionen-krankgeschrieben/11564148.html

[sundaydriver]

Not to go against the everything is the fault of Muzzies thinking, but...

Prosecutor say's; no evidence of religious or political reasons for actions. A theory most likely planted by the Globalists. :rolleyes:

As for the theory of his taking absence from flight training most likely to convert to Islam and mandatory terrorist training.

2009: Breaks off pilot training while still in his early twenties after suffering "depressions and anxiety attacks", the German tabloid Bild reports, quoting Lufthansa medical files. Resumes training after 18 months of treatment, according to Bild. A theory most likely planted by B. O. and associated lib/dem, scum. :slap:




http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-32087203