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Kathianne
04-25-2015, 12:59 AM
I found this both informative and interesting:

http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-armenian-genocide/



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The Islamic Genocide of Christians: Past and Present

A century after the Armenian Genocide, Muslims continue cleansing their countries of Christian minorities.
by Raymond Ibrahim (http://pjmedia.com/blog/author/raymondibrahim/)
April 24, 2015 - 12:35 am

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Today, April 24, we remember how exactly 100 years ago the last historic Muslim caliphate, the Ottoman Empire, tried to cleanse its empire of Christian minorities — Armenians, Assyrians, and Greeks — even as we stand by watching as the new caliphate, the Islamic State, resumes the genocide.

And in both cases, the atrocities were and are being committed in the name of Islam.

In November, 1914 (http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/ottoman-empire-declares-a-holy-war), during WWI, the Ottoman caliphate issued a fatwa, or Islamic decree, proclaiming it a “sacred duty” for all Muslims to “massacre” infidels — specifically naming the “Christian men” of the Triple Entente, “the enemies of Islam” — with promises of great rewards in the afterlife.

The same Koran verses that the Islamic State and other jihadi outfits regularly quote permeated the Ottoman fatwa, including: “Slay the idolaters wherever you find them — seize them, besiege them, and be ready to ambush them” (9:5) and “O you who have believed! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are but friends of each other; and whoever among you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them” (5:51) — and several other verses that form the Islamic doctrine of Loyalty and Enmity (http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/muslim-husbands-must-hate-non-muslim-wives/).
Many Muslims still invoke this doctrine; it commands Muslims to befriend and aid fellow Muslims, while having enmity for all non-Muslims (one Islamic cleric even teaches that Muslim husbands must hate their non-Muslim wives (http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/muslim-husbands-must-hate-non-muslim-wives/), while enjoying them sexually).

As happens to this very day (http://www.raymondibrahim.com/muslim-persecution-of-christians/christians-pay-islams-price-for-freedom-muslim-persecution-of-christians-january-2015/), the Muslims of the Ottoman caliphate, not able to reach or defeat the stronger infidel — the “Christian men” of Britain, France, and Russia — satiated their bloodlust on their Christian subjects. And they justified the genocide by projecting the Islamic doctrine of Loyalty and Enmity onto Christians — saying that, because Armenians, Assyrians, and Greeks were Christian, they were naturally aiding the other “Christian men” of the West.

As happens to this day under the new caliphate — the Islamic State — the Ottoman caliphate crucified, beheaded, tortured, mutilated, raped, enslaved, and otherwise massacred countless “infidel” Christians. The official number of Armenians killed in the genocide is 1.5 million; hundreds of thousands of Greeks and Assyrians each were also systematically slaughtered (see this document for statistics (http://www.genocidetext.net/iags_resolution_supporting_documentation.htm)).

(Although today marks the “Armenian Genocide,” often forgotten is that Assyrians and Greeks were also targeted for cleansing by the Ottoman caliphate. The only thing that distinguished Armenian, Assyrian, and Greek subjects of the caliphate from Turkish subjects was that the three former were Christian. As one Armenian studies professor asks (http://www.umd.umich.edu/dept/armenian/facts/answers.html), “If it [the Armenian Genocide] was a feud between Turks and Armenians, what explains the genocide carried out by Turkey against the Christian Assyrians at the same time?”)

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NightTrain
04-25-2015, 01:19 AM
I know next to nothing about the Ottoman Empire, I'm embarrassed to say.

Looks like I've got some reading to do.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
04-25-2015, 07:55 AM
Islam is nothing but a bloody path from its first raiding of caravan's (to rape and steal) to its armies spreading across a continent murdering , raping , enslaving and stealing the fruits of civilized people all the way to this very minute. ..
Any study of it shows this to be dead on accurate.
Low estinate based upon historic facts show Islam has murdered an estimated 250 million+ people!
And that tally continues today--just wait until the ffing savages get the nukes that the obama is so desperate to give them!-Tyr

tailfins
04-25-2015, 08:22 AM
Islam is nothing but a bloody path from its first raiding of caravan's (to rape and steal) to its armies spreading across a continent murdering , raping , enslaving and stealing the fruits of civilized people all the way to this very minute. ..
Any study of it shows this to be dead on accurate.
Low estinate based upon historic facts show Islam has murdered an estimated 250 million+ people!
And that tally continues today--just wait until the ffing savages get the nukes that the obama is so desperate to give them!-Tyr

The pastor this month preached that ANY works-based religion could become like Islam. When people try work their way into heaven, they will do about anything. That's why we have grace that's only found in Jesus Christ.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
04-25-2015, 03:39 PM
The pastor this month preached that ANY works-based religion could become like Islam. When people try work their way into heaven, they will do about anything. That's why we have grace that's only found in Jesus Christ.

And that is true. Also that is why I can never agree with nor understand certain denominations/churches embracing and defending muslims and Imams.
Seems they are ignorant of that truth and/or ignorant of the fact that as Christians they are told not to embrace evil or invite it into God's house!-Tyr

LongTermGuy
04-25-2015, 03:55 PM
And that is true. Also that is why I can never agree with nor understand certain denominations/churches embracing and defending muslims and Imams.
Seems they are ignorant of that truth and/or ignorant of the fact that as Christians they are told not to embrace evil or invite it into God's house!-Tyr


`.....They are human....meaning...everybody is different and interprets things differently...we all do have freedom of will and thought...and we can defend ourselves....*some folks just cant put 2 and 2 together....and they suffer the consequences...so be it...so it shall be written.

tailfins
04-25-2015, 04:55 PM
And that is true. Also that is why I can never agree with nor understand certain denominations/churches embracing and defending muslims and Imams.
Seems they are ignorant of that truth and/or ignorant of the fact that as Christians they are told not to embrace evil or invite it into God's house!-Tyr

That's all well and good, but it shouldn't be a distraction from rejecting ALL apostate religions.

Kathianne
04-25-2015, 05:58 PM
That's all well and good, but it shouldn't be a distraction from rejecting ALL apostate religions.

Says the son of Satan. :laugh2:

tailfins
04-25-2015, 06:42 PM
Says the son of Satan. :laugh2:

You blaspheme God, not me.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
04-25-2015, 07:38 PM
`.....They are human....meaning...everybody is different and interprets things differently...we all do have freedom of will and thought...and we can defend ourselves....*some folks just cant put 2 and 2 together....and they suffer the consequences...so be it...so it shall be written.

If only it were just they that suffered for their folly, for their ignorance. The problem is its very we, my kids and grandkids that will pay a very, very heavy price as in death, enslavement and loss of security. . I see that and am biting at the bits to find a legal way to take preventative action.
Our problem is the idiots that keep voting in appeasing dem socialists and other assorted asshats, traitors and vermin..--Tyr