Why does God not follow the Golden Rule? His best rule?

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Why does God not follow the Golden Rule? His best rule?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_-nHw0_Fos&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_-nHw0_Fos&feature=player_embedded)

I have a hard time seeing God as --- doing unto others as he would want done to himself --- in the clip above. I cannot see God wanting someone to do what he did to the women who owned those wombs to him. He is therefore certainly not walking his talk or fallowing his own good advice.

It seems that people are more responsible than God as we are trying to get everyone on board the Golden Rule that God ignores.


http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html (http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html)


Regards
DL

[Gunny]

Why does God not follow the Golden Rule? His best rule?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_-nHw0_Fos&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_-nHw0_Fos&feature=player_embedded)

I have a hard time seeing God as --- doing unto others as he would want done to himself --- in the clip above. I cannot see God wanting someone to do what he did to the women who owned those wombs to him. He is therefore certainly not walking his talk or fallowing his own good advice.

It seems that people are more responsible than God as we are trying to get everyone on board the Golden Rule that God ignores.


http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html (http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html)


Regards
DL



Learn to debate 101:

Jesus amended God's law and the Golden Rule comes from Him, not God.

God would send Sampson, Joshua or David to kick your ass. An eye for an eye. Jesus said turn the other cheek.

CYA.

[Abbey Marie]

It's ok, Gnostic. Don't worry about how awful God may be- it's not looking very likely that you will spend much quality time with him.

[revelarts]

Why does God not follow the Golden Rule? His best rule?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_-nHw0_Fos&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_-nHw0_Fos&feature=player_embedded)
I have a hard time seeing God as --- doing unto others as he would want done to himself --- in the clip above. I cannot see God wanting someone to do what he did to the women who owned those wombs to him. He is therefore certainly not walking his talk or fallowing his own good advice. It seems that people are more responsible than God as we are trying to get everyone on board the Golden Rule that God ignores.
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html (http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html)
Regards
DL


Do you try to follow the golden rule Gnostic?

[aboutime]

Gnostic. GOD is following the golden rule. We're all laughing at you, and enjoying the entertainment of GOD's trick on his mistakes...just like you. Cheer up. Even GOD has a sense of humor, and you being here...PROVES IT.

[Noir]

and enjoying the entertainment of GOD's trick on his mistakes...

What does this mean?

[aboutime]

What does this mean?


If you have to ask. You and Gnostic should be happy together.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Learn to debate 101:

Jesus amended God's law and the Golden Rule comes from Him, not God.

God would send Sampson, Joshua or David to kick your ass. An eye for an eye. Jesus said turn the other cheek.

CYA.

That rule was documented thousand of years before Christianity plagiarised it.

Read the Book of the Dead and see their rendition of the 10 commandment. They are actually better written.

Regards
DL

[Gunny]

What does this mean?

It means God has a sense of humor. He created YOU, didn't he?:laugh:

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Do you try to follow the golden rule Gnostic?

Absolutely.

Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

I come here for correction and all I get is abuse.

I thought you guys were Christians.

Jesus said he came to heal the sick and here you guys are, that are all so well and close to God, telling this one you believe to be sick, to go away and heal myself.

No wonder Christianity is shrinking.

Regards
DL

[Gunny]

That rule was documented thousand of years before Christianity plagiarised it.

Read the Book of the Dead and see their rendition of the 10 commandment. They are actually better written.

Regards
DL

Sorry. No sale. "The Golden Rule" is attributed to Christ. If you want to argue the origin of the meaning and/or intent of "do unto others ...", then say so. But you don't. You want to bash Christianity by misusing words out of time.

Try arguing with someone whose Grandfather wasn't the Superintendent of Sunday School. You might get past your first lie.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

If you have to ask. You and Gnostic should be happy together.

Such love.

Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.
Regards
DL

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

It means God has a sense of humor. He created YOU, didn't he?:laugh:

Was God laughing when he created these potential humans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_-nHw0_Fos&feature=player_embedded

Regards
DL

[Gunny]

Was God laughing when he created these potential humans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_-nHw0_Fos&feature=player_embedded

Regards
DL

Don't mistake me for Night Train. He just wanted to let you make a fool of yourself and I played along and it worked. I'm more direct.

Clue Number One: I don't read cut n pastes, I rarely watch any of the videos and I don't follow dumbass links. Spit out what you got to say like a man or go home. So far, from EVERY one of your posts all you have shown is that you can misuse and twist the words of God to suit your goofy-ass little rants. And you don't change a thing.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Sorry. No sale. "The Golden Rule" is attributed to Christ. If you want to argue the origin of the meaning and/or intent of "do unto others ...", then say so. But you don't. You want to bash Christianity by misusing words out of time.

Try arguing with someone whose Grandfather wasn't the Superintendent of Sunday School. You might get past your first lie.

You Christians out to get out more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule

If you did, you would not be so ill-informed.

Debate 101

Regards
DL

[Gunny]

You Christians out to get out more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule

If you did, you would not be so ill-informed.

Debate 101

Regards
DL

Nah. YOU do. I don't carre what you believe in and what you don't. I DO care when some loud-mouthed, ignorant trog comes around spewing hate for no reason and can't even back his shit.

And it appears I'm more informed that you.

[aboutime]

You Christians out to get out more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Rule

If you did, you would not be so ill-informed.

Debate 101

Regards
DL


Speak for yourself. Most of us don't live as you do....in http://icansayit.com/images/garbagecan.jpg, hiding from reality.

[revelarts]

Absolutely.

Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.
I come here for correction and all I get is abuse.
I thought you guys were Christians.
Jesus said he came to heal the sick and here you guys are, that are all so well and close to God, telling this one you believe to be sick, to go away and heal myself.
No wonder Christianity is shrinking.

Regards
DL


DL . I've tried several times to engage you in honest debate and you've never given strait or even conversational replies.
I find it hard to believe that you are sincere in anything but wanting to come here to abuse and disabuse others of their Christian faith.
It seems to me you're dishonestly and hostilely evangelical in you gnostic beliefs. Constantly trying to tear down straw men versions of christianity. That seems your main purpose here.

are you honestly looking for "correction" yes or no?
are you honestly looking for sincere debate? yes or no?
are you honestly here to discover what Christians believe on various issues of spiritually, God, Jesus, man, morals?

Frankly I don't get the impression that you are.
And even Jesus didn't spend a lot of time with, or always reply in a friendly manner, to people who were basically out to attack him DL.

[avatar4321]

What evidence do you have that he isn't following the golden rule?

Do you think He wouldn't want someone to conquor death if He was in our fallen state?

You think He wouldn't want us to heal Him if He was sick?

You think He wouldn't want forgiveness if He did something wrong?

He gives us all that and more. He has conquered death for us. He has healed us physically and spiritually. He forgives us for our sins.

He gives us everything we could need.

He is the perfect example of the golden rule.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

DL . I've tried several times to engage you in honest debate and you've never given strait or even conversational replies.
I find it hard to believe that you are sincere in anything but wanting to come here to abuse and disabuse others of their Christian faith.
It seems to me you're dishonestly and hostilely evangelical in you gnostic beliefs. Constantly trying to tear down straw men versions of christianity. That seems your main purpose here.

are you honestly looking for "correction" yes or no?
are you honestly looking for sincere debate? yes or no?
are you honestly here to discover what Christians believe on various issues of spiritually, God, Jesus, man, morals?

Frankly I don't get the impression that you are.
And even Jesus didn't spend a lot of time with, or always reply in a friendly manner, to people who were basically out to attack him DL.

You begin with a flat out lie.

You must be too used to the simpletons here.

Regards
DL

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

What evidence do you have that he isn't following the golden rule?

Do you think He wouldn't want someone to conquor death if He was in our fallen state?

You think He wouldn't want us to heal Him if He was sick?

You think He wouldn't want forgiveness if He did something wrong?

He gives us all that and more. He has conquered death for us. He has healed us physically and spiritually. He forgives us for our sins.

He gives us everything we could need.

He is the perfect example of the golden rule.

Does he cure or kill those dumped into the lake of fire and what would you like him to do to you if you happen to be in it?

If doing unto other, will God cure or kill?

Regards
DL

[aboutime]

Gnostic. You still refuse to answer my question from a few months ago. So, I'll ask again.

How long have you been a member of the WESTBORO Baptist Church Loony Bin Gang?

I'm following the GOLDEN RULE you seem happy to abuse. So I am DOING UNTO OTHERS...difference is. I answer questions.

[revelarts]

You begin with a flat out lie.
You must be too used to the simpletons here.
Regards
DL
riiight. you've called me a lair more than once now DL. you're full of S...
But let's try to move on. I forgive you for calling me a liar again.

So, ok, Lets try a friendly conversation again or anew DL.

Hi DL my Name is Avery. How've you been?
So you want to talk about the golden rule? how or IF it applies to God and Jesus?

Well before we go there the 1st thing i'd like to understand from you though is, well, you seem to suggest in another thread that much (all?) of the Bible is a myth. We can't really talk about God, as I understand him, if you think some or ALL of accounts of God in Bible are just myths, made up stories anyway. And not only that but fiction that has been misinterpreted by "idiot" Christians no less.
If you'd give me some criteria to understand on what basis you judge which parts of the Bible are true and literal and what's not. Like, was Jesus a real person? Was Paul a real person? was Abraham a real person? Did they or anyone literally do or say ANYTHING that's recorded by the Bible by your assessment? Or are some Bible characters literally real but all the miracles false. You seem to take some of moral teaching literally. But most importantly what/who do you think God really is? Is he real...literally? OR is it just an ideal? OR only a/the part of the human soul? OR a placebo what?

I don't want to assume your ideas on any of these points.
please don't assume you really understand mine or tell me what i believe.

If you can answer directly a few of those questions maybe we can have an honest chat about "God" and the golden rule. Because we get to see where the other is coming from in a broad sense. If we're just suppose to reply shotgun style to a hodgepodge series of complaints about God with cobbled togethers out of context verses it just seems like an dishonest attack and not conversation, intelligent or otherwise. We all have the privileged of our own beliefs. I don't mind that your's are different. And even if i think they are incorrect i can talk to you civilly about it any aspects of it... if that's what you really want to do here.

sincerely

Avery aka revelarts

[avatar4321]

Does he cure or kill those dumped into the lake of fire and what would you like him to do to you if you happen to be in it?

If doing unto other, will God cure or kill?

Regards
DL

Even the unjust will be resurrected and healed

[avatar4321]

You begin with a flat out lie.

You must be too used to the simpletons here.

Regards
DL

How is it a lie? I've seen all of us try to talk with you. You will not listen. You don't have to agree, but listening isn't unreasonable.

[DragonStryk72]

Why does God not follow the Golden Rule? His best rule?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_-nHw0_Fos&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_-nHw0_Fos&feature=player_embedded)

I have a hard time seeing God as --- doing unto others as he would want done to himself --- in the clip above. I cannot see God wanting someone to do what he did to the women who owned those wombs to him. He is therefore certainly not walking his talk or fallowing his own good advice.

It seems that people are more responsible than God as we are trying to get everyone on board the Golden Rule that God ignores.


http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html (http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html)


Regards
DL



Oh hey, thanks for proving me right in that previous thread. How long til you flee to a new thread this time, I wonder?

I'd say more, but rev pretty much has it in hand, and I'd only give you some way of trying to ignore him, so in fairness I'm just going to post his quote here:


riiight. you've called me a lair more than once now DL. you're full of S...
But let's try to move on. I forgive you for calling me a liar again.

So, ok, Lets try a friendly conversation again or anew DL.

Hi DL my Name is Avery. How've you been?
So you want to talk about the golden rule? how or IF it applies to God and Jesus?

Well before we go there the 1st thing i'd like to understand from you though is, well, you seem to suggest in another thread that much (all?) of the Bible is a myth. We can't really talk about God, as I understand him, if you think some or ALL of accounts of God in Bible are just myths, made up stories anyway. And not only that but fiction that has been misinterpreted by "idiot" Christians no less.
If you'd give me some criteria to understand on what basis you judge which parts of the Bible are true and literal and what's not. Like, was Jesus a real person? Was Paul a real person? was Abraham a real person? Did they or anyone literally do or say ANYTHING that's recorded by the Bible by your assessment? Or are some Bible characters literally real but all the miracles false. You seem to take some of moral teaching literally. But most importantly what/who do you think God really is? Is he real...literally? OR is it just an ideal? OR only a/the part of the human soul? OR a placebo what?

I don't want to assume your ideas on any of these points.
please don't assume you really understand mine or tell me what i believe.

If you can answer directly a few of those questions maybe we can have an honest chat about "God" and the golden rule. Because we get to see where the other is coming from in a broad sense. If we're just suppose to reply shotgun style to a hodgepodge series of complaints about God with cobbled togethers out of context verses it just seems like an dishonest attack and not conversation, intelligent or otherwise. We all have the privileged of our own beliefs. I don't mind that your's are different. And even if i think they are incorrect i can talk to you civilly about it any aspects of it... if that's what you really want to do here.

sincerely

Avery aka revelarts

[Gunny]

You begin with a flat out lie.

You must be too used to the simpletons here.

Regards
DL

No, YOU started the lying. Read your own thread title claiming the Golden Rule is GOD's law. When corrected that was Christ's amendment to Gof's law, you deflected to claiming it was someone altogether different's law. Which, renders your original argument moot.

Your attempt at 2nd grade semantics is less than impressive.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

riiight. you've called me a lair more than once now DL. you're full of S...
But let's try to move on. I forgive you for calling me a liar again.

So, ok, Lets try a friendly conversation again or anew DL.

Hi DL my Name is Avery. How've you been?
So you want to talk about the golden rule? how or IF it applies to God and Jesus?

Well before we go there the 1st thing i'd like to understand from you though is, well, you seem to suggest in another thread that much (all?) of the Bible is a myth. We can't really talk about God, as I understand him, if you think some or ALL of accounts of God in Bible are just myths, made up stories anyway. And not only that but fiction that has been misinterpreted by "idiot" Christians no less.
If you'd give me some criteria to understand on what basis you judge which parts of the Bible are true and literal and what's not. Like, was Jesus a real person? Was Paul a real person? was Abraham a real person? Did they or anyone literally do or say ANYTHING that's recorded by the Bible by your assessment? Or are some Bible characters literally real but all the miracles false. You seem to take some of moral teaching literally. But most importantly what/who do you think God really is? Is he real...literally? OR is it just an ideal? OR only a/the part of the human soul? OR a placebo what?

I don't want to assume your ideas on any of these points.
please don't assume you really understand mine or tell me what i believe.

If you can answer directly a few of those questions maybe we can have an honest chat about "God" and the golden rule. Because we get to see where the other is coming from in a broad sense. If we're just suppose to reply shotgun style to a hodgepodge series of complaints about God with cobbled togethers out of context verses it just seems like an dishonest attack and not conversation, intelligent or otherwise. We all have the privileged of our own beliefs. I don't mind that your's are different. And even if i think they are incorrect i can talk to you civilly about it any aspects of it... if that's what you really want to do here.

sincerely

Avery aka revelarts

What I said elsewhere has nothing to do with this O.P.

Speak to it or not.

Regards
DL

P.S. If you want to go all over the map then start an O.P. and link me up.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Even the unjust will be resurrected and healed

Could I have the chapter and verse for this please?

If that is the case, then I would be all wrong and that would make Christianity a Universalist religion which it does not ever claim to be.

Link me up to where it makes such a claim as well please.

Regards
DL

[revelarts]

What I said elsewhere has nothing to do with this O.P.
Speak to it or not.
Regards
DL
so much for friendly open conversation.
well I expected as much.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

No, YOU started the lying. Read your own thread title claiming the Golden Rule is GOD's law. When corrected that was Christ's amendment to Gof's law, you deflected to claiming it was someone altogether different's law. Which, renders your original argument moot.

Your attempt at 2nd grade semantics is less than impressive.

I do not blame you for saying Jesus is not God.

From that POV, I agree with you that statement would be false.

I had written it more for Christians who believe that Jesus is a part of God and thus God.

Regard
DL

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

so much for friendly open conversation.
well I expected as much.

Correcting you is not an unfriendly act according to your bible.

If you were right, you are the one being unfriendly as your own bible says you are to answer evil with good.

You did the opposite.

If you were honest, then you would accept my offer to open an O.P.

Regards
DL

[revelarts]

Correcting you is not an unfriendly act according to your bible.
If you were right, you are the one being unfriendly as your own bible says you are to answer evil with good.
You did the opposite.
If you were honest, then you would accept my offer to open an O.P.
Regards
DL
Seems I did answer evil with good and just got more dodging and evasion.
now i get more false accusations laid on top of that.
PLUS you're trying to use the Bible you don't seem to believe or respect against me.

Gnot-a Christian, examine yourself. log in the eye and all that.
Jesus said it but since you never give a strait answer i don't know if you'd accept those words from Jesus or not.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Seems I did answer evil with good and just got more dodging and evasion.
now i get more false accusations laid on top of that.
PLUS you're trying to use the Bible you don't seem to believe or respect against me.

Gnot-a Christian, examine yourself. log in the eye and all that.
Jesus said it but since you never give a strait answer i don't know if you'd accept those words from Jesus or not.

If you ever give a straight question, you will get a straight answer.

I use your own bible against you because you do not follow it's tenets.

Regards
DL

[revelarts]

If you ever give a straight question, you will get a straight answer. I use your own bible against you because you do not follow it's tenets.
Regards
DL
I said "TRYING" to use it against me. a piss poor attempt in fact.

[aboutime]

No need to continue with GNOSTIC until he answers the WESTBORO question HE/SHE has intentionally IGNORED a few times here.

Not to mention how Gnostic continues to refuse answering questions without first...asking another question.
Your Liberal Ignorance is plain for everyone to see Gnostic. Go join a Demonstration at a Military Cemetery and YELL some more.

[Gunny]

I do not blame you for saying Jesus is not God.

From that POV, I agree with you that statement would be false.

I had written it more for Christians who believe that Jesus is a part of God and thus God.

Regard
DL

*yawn*

Try again. Your OP is false.

I do believe Jesus is God thus God. God can amend His own laws.

You're just too simple and easy.:laugh:

[Perianne]

I am not an expert on things religious. But if I understand it correctly, Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit. They are one in the same in a way we simple humans cannot understand. We are to take God at his word and believe. Those who choose not to believe should understand, that in the end, "For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God".

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

*yawn*

Try again. Your OP is false.

I do believe Jesus is God thus God. God can amend His own laws.

You're just too simple and easy.:laugh:

Your God says, -- I change not, --- but go ahead and think he does.

Regards
DL

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

I am not an expert on things religious. But if I understand it correctly, Jesus is God and the Holy Spirit. They are one in the same in a way we simple humans cannot understand. We are to take God at his word and believe. Those who choose not to believe should understand, that in the end, "For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God".

Any God who has such a need or want is not worthy of his title.

Do you think the strong should serve the weak or should the weak serve the strong?

Your answer should tell you what to do with what you quoted.


If your God is three in one, they would all be equal, --- but scriptures are clear that they are not.

Some know things the others do not and some can be insulted with impunity and the other not.

How do you explain that there seems to be more than on consciousness where only one consciousness is allowed?

Let me give you a bit more to think about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VsN3IG1HtQ

Regard
DL

[avatar4321]

Correcting you is not an unfriendly act according to your bible.

If you were right, you are the one being unfriendly as your own bible says you are to answer evil with good.

You did the opposite.

If you were honest, then you would accept my offer to open an O.P.

Regards
DL

Pride, however, is a sin. Condescension is a form of pride.

You want to correct us, but you aren't right to begin with. You have no authority to correct us. Christ warned that before we correct others we should correct ourselves. And we should act out of love not arrogance

[avatar4321]

Your God says, -- I change not, --- but go ahead and think he does.

Regards
DL

How does changing a rule change God?

If Congress passed a law saying all red trafficking lights mean go now, have they changed their nature?

Has God changed who He is because He commanded Noah to build and ark and us not to?

Is He not still Eternal, honest, long suffering, all knowing, etc?

Our Father in Heaven is the sovereign of the universe. Like any lawmaker He can command and revoke at His prerogative.

[avatar4321]

Any God who has such a need or want is not worthy of his title.

Do you think the strong should serve the weak or should the weak serve the strong?

Your answer should tell you what to do with what you quoted.


If your God is three in one, they would all be equal, --- but scriptures are clear that they are not.

Some know things the others do not and some can be insulted with impunity and the other not.

How do you explain that there seems to be more than on consciousness where only one consciousness is allowed?

Let me give you a bit more to think about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VsN3IG1HtQ

Regard
DL

And who are you to judge God?

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Pride, however, is a sin. Condescension is a form of pride.

You want to correct us, but you aren't right to begin with. You have no authority to correct us. Christ warned that before we correct others we should correct ourselves. And we should act out of love not arrogance

You say I am not right and I say you are not yet my attitude is not the same as yours and is what you speak to instead of the issue to see who is actually right.

I see that as hypocrisy.

Not having pride in your wife, children and parents indicates poor choices.

I am quite proud of their accomplishments as well as my own.

If you cannot say the same then shame on you.

Regards
DL


.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

How does changing a rule change God?

.

It shoes him changing his mindset.

Regards
DL

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

And who are you to judge God?

Who are you to follow a God without judging him to be good?

Which one of us is following this scripture?

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.

Regards
DL

[aboutime]

Gnostic. Will you now answer my question about your membership with WESTBORO?
http://icansayit.com/images/looneyleft.jpg

[Gunny]

Your God says, -- I change not, --- but go ahead and think he does.

Regards
DL

Do you ALWAYS try to flip flop from the Old to the New Testament as it suits you? Oh yeah, of course you do. You really are a dumbass who doesn't know shit that relies on dishonesty as a basic form of argument.

[avatar4321]

You say I am not right and I say you are not yet my attitude is not the same as yours and is what you speak to instead of the issue to see who is actually right.

I see that as hypocrisy.

Not having pride in your wife, children and parents indicates poor choices.

I am quite proud of their accomplishments as well as my own.

If you cannot say the same then shame on you.

Regards
DL


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All that demonstrates is you don't know or understand pride and the danger it is to the human soul. That puts you in dangerous.

[avatar4321]

It shoes him changing his mindset.

Regards
DL

No it really does. I find it amusing that you felt the need to cut out the rest of what I said.

[avatar4321]

Who are you to follow a God without judging him to be good?

Which one of us is following this scripture?

1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good.

Regards
DL

Considering you are openly rejecting God, calling the scriptures false, and the mocking him openly, I'm sure you can deduce the answer.

[aboutime]

No it really does. I find it amusing that you felt the need to cut out the rest of what I said.


avatar. His response was actually very interesting, and telling as far as Ignorance goes. He has resorted to SHOES, when I thought his BOOTS were full of Crap anyhow???????:laugh:

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Considering you are openly rejecting God, calling the scriptures false, and the mocking him openly, I'm sure you can deduce the answer.

So what I do is why you believe as you do. Strange.

I would not want to be responsible for your poor morals but if you need someone to blame that badly then pile it nice ad high.

Regards3
DL

[Gunny]

So what I do is why you believe as you do. Strange.

I would not want to be responsible for your poor morals but if you need someone to blame that badly then pile it nice ad high.

Regards3
DL

Rule of thumb: If YOU are right, I'll never know. If WE are right, it's going to suck to be YOU. :laugh:

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Rule of thumb: If YOU are right, I'll never know. If WE are right, it's going to suck to be YOU. :laugh:

An the fact that you can laugh at what you think is harm to another shows why Christianity should be shunned.

Strange that your God says to return evil with good yet all you can do is return evil for what you perceive to be evil.

You make my case for Christian immorality.

Regards
DL

[Abbey Marie]

Gnostic's Internet Message Board Creed:

I am Christianphobic.
Therefore, I must find fault with Christians.
I will go and try to crap on all their beliefs, until they get defensive.
Then I will shout, "Hah! You are not following your own Bible's tenets."
And convince myself I was right all along!
Rinse
Repeat

[DragonStryk72]

God doesn't change, but his approach and rules can change as can a good parent's. Do you still have your parents hold your hand every time you cross the street? No, of course not. Did your parents change? No, but you did, and thus the rules needed to be amended, since you had outgrown them, and needed new rules that keep in mind your increased capability and responsibility.

Christ came precisely *because* we had outgrown the old law, and needed a new law going forward. Whether Christ is God or not is purely irrelevant to the point that any parent or ruler can change the rules to reflect their people, and their growth.

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

God doesn't change, but his approach and rules can change as can a good parent's. Do you still have your parents hold your hand every time you cross the street? No, of course not. Did your parents change? No, but you did, and thus the rules needed to be amended, since you had outgrown them, and needed new rules that keep in mind your increased capability and responsibility.

Christ came precisely *because* we had outgrown the old law, and needed a new law going forward. Whether Christ is God or not is purely irrelevant to the point that any parent or ruler can change the rules to reflect their people, and their growth.

Christ being God is of the utmost importance to those Christians who want to ride him as their scapegoat.

If Jesus is a God, then we are saved. If he is not a God then we have been fooled by those who just wanted our cash all along.

Jesus, like all of us, should be judged on his morals and his are not that great.

But you Christian are not interested in morals. You prefer to sell your souls to Satan while thinking that substitutionary atonement is good when you know it to be evil.

Regards
DL

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Gnostic's Internet Message Board Creed:

I am Christianphobic.
Therefore, I must find fault with Christians.
I will go and try to crap on all their beliefs, until they get defensive.
Then I will shout, "Hah! You are not following your own Bible's tenets."
And convince myself I was right all along!
Rinse
Repeat

Such garbage form an admin. Wow. :clap::clap:

Regards
DL

[DLT]

Why does God not follow the Golden Rule? His best rule?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_-nHw0_Fos&feature=player_embedded (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_-nHw0_Fos&feature=player_embedded)

I have a hard time seeing God as --- doing unto others as he would want done to himself --- in the clip above. I cannot see God wanting someone to do what he did to the women who owned those wombs to him. He is therefore certainly not walking his talk or fallowing his own good advice.

It seems that people are more responsible than God as we are trying to get everyone on board the Golden Rule that God ignores.


http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html (http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html)


Regards
DL



Such asinine and simplistic/simpleton blatherings. God makes the rules. It's up to us to choose to follow them or not. You really need to get that through that thick skull (miracles do happen, after all).

[aboutime]

For the enjoyment of all.

http://icansayit.com/images/westborofan.jpg

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

Such asinine and simplistic/simpleton blatherings. God makes the rules. It's up to us to choose to follow them or not. You really need to get that through that thick skull (miracles do happen, after all).

That is what your dogma tells you while at the same time it tells you to be like God.

If God does not need to follow his rule and we are told emulate him, then we too need not follow his rules.

Do as I say and not as I do shows how immoral your God is.

Your asinine reply also indicates that your morals are as corrupt as your God's.

Regards
DL

[aboutime]

That is what your dogma tells you while at the same time it tells you to be like God.

If God does not need to follow his rule and we are told emulate him, then we too need not follow his rules.

Do as I say and not as I do shows how immoral your God is.

Your asinine reply also indicates that your morals are as corrupt as your God's.

Regards
DL


You really are funny Gnostic. Thanks for showing all of us the TRUE, GOSPEL meaning of Asinine, as demonstrated, and preached by you. You should be happy WE are EMULATING....YOU!:laugh:

[Gunny]

Such garbage form an admin. Wow. :clap::clap:

Regards
DL

Wow. Like to pick on girls, do you? This from a a so-called "man". You're a piece of trash.

[Abbey Marie]

Such garbage form an admin. Wow. :clap::clap:

Regards
DL

Thanks for the applause. I too, thought my post was spot-on.

[DragonStryk72]

Christ being God is of the utmost importance to those Christians who want to ride him as their scapegoat.

If Jesus is a God, then we are saved. If he is not a God then we have been fooled by those who just wanted our cash all along.

Jesus, like all of us, should be judged on his morals and his are not that great.

But you Christian are not interested in morals. You prefer to sell your souls to Satan while thinking that substitutionary atonement is good when you know it to be evil.

Regards
DL

And again, you've got nothing, so you just repeat yourself, because this is just another regurgitation of a thread you've posted elsewhere. God stays constant, people changed, and thus the rules changed to fit what the People needed. Its not hard, every parent on Earth does it, unless your mom still changes your diapers, picks your clothes, and expects you to be in by the time the street lamps come on. She didn't change, you did, and thus she altered the rules to suit your changing needs.

[aboutime]

Anyone but Gnostic that is?

Hey douchebag...I mean, Gnostic.

When will you notice how YOU are the only one on this thread who is insisting God doesn't follow the GOLDEN RULE?

Could it be. You are such a putz, and full of yourself. You haven't got the intelligence, or the human possibility of knowing... much less following what you despise the most? Namely a Rule you are not qualified to follow anyhow?

[red states rule]

That is what your dogma tells you while at the same time it tells you to be like God.

If God does not need to follow his rule and we are told emulate him, then we too need not follow his rules.

Do as I say and not as I do shows how immoral your God is.

Your asinine reply also indicates that your morals are as corrupt as your God's.

Regards
DL

When I go to Church tomorrow I will ask pastor Dave to forgive me

You are a human hemorrhoid. You hang around and are a pain in the ass

Please go spread your garbage somewhere else and put us out our misery

[aboutime]

When I go to Church tomorrow I will ask pastor Dave to forgive me

You are a human hemorrhoid. You hang around and are a pain in the ass

Please go spread your garbage somewhere else and put us out our misery


red state. Just wondering. I am very familiar with a pastor named DAVE as well.

Perhaps we have a "WAVE" in common?

Just wondering.

[red states rule]

red state. Just wondering. I am very familiar with a pastor named DAVE as well.

Perhaps we have a "WAVE" in common?

Just wondering.

My Pastor Dave is in the Pocono's and I watch him online

It is a very laid back service. Jeans are fine. He talks to you and is is not a fire and brimstone type of Pastor.

He is a fine man and a joy to listen to

[aboutime]

My Pastor Dave is in the Pocono's and I watch him online

It is a very laid back service. Jeans are fine. He talks to you and is is not a fire and brimstone type of Pastor.

He is a fine man and a joy to listen to


Okay. Thanks. The Pastor Dave I know, and see often is the pastor of the day-care, and pre-school where two of our grandchildren go during the week.

It's a local thing. But growing. And it is also laid back. No fire and brimstone either. Almost like JOEL on TV we see occasionally here.
Either way. Gnostic would probably only be suited to clean the garbage cans after services, since his mind is obviously...in the same gutter.:laugh:

[red states rule]

Okay. Thanks. The Pastor Dave I know, and see often is the pastor of the day-care, and pre-school where two of our grandchildren go during the week.

It's a local thing. But growing. And it is also laid back. No fire and brimstone either. Almost like JOEL on TV we see occasionally here.
Either way. Gnostic would probably only be suited to clean the garbage cans after services, since his mind is obviously...in the same gutter.:laugh:

If you want to experience my Pastor Dave send me a PM and I will send you the link. He is a trip and he mixes humor very well with his message

[avatar4321]

That is what your dogma tells you while at the same time it tells you to be like God.

If God does not need to follow his rule and we are told emulate him, then we too need not follow his rules.

Do as I say and not as I do shows how immoral your God is.

Your asinine reply also indicates that your morals are as corrupt as your God's.

Regards
DL

When you actually establish that God doesn't follow His own rules, you may have a point.

Until then you are just rambling incoherently

[Gnostic Christian Bishop]

When you actually establish that God doesn't follow His own rules, you may have a point.

Until then you are just rambling incoherently

Shall we have a look?

Did God make a rule saying not to kill?

That word kill many see as murder.

Is torturing an innocent baby for six days then killing it murder?

Regards
DL