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Little-Acorn
06-08-2015, 02:28 AM
This woman's "boyfriend" is charged with her murder. If convicted, he is clearly the major criminal in the case.

But he's not the only one.

There are laws against murder. Those laws call for very harsh penalties, as they should.

But there is also a law against government interfering with a person's right to keep and bear arms.

Unfortunately, that law doesn't call out specific penalties for those who violate it.

Though the person who stabbed the woman to death is clearly the one most at fault, others also contributed to her death... by banning her from owning or carrying a defensive weapon for months while she was in danger, despite her not breaking any laws or causing any problems. They clearly violated the 2nd amendment, which forbade them from infringing her right to carry a weapon to protect herself. And in doing so, contributed to her death.

Along with the murderer, shouldn't those others also be held responsible for their part in causing her death?

If not, why not?

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http://www.courierpostonline.com/story/news/crime/2015/06/04/woman-fatally-stabbed-berlin-twp/28461361/

Ex-boyfriend sought in woman's slaying

Jim Walsh, @jimwalsh_cp
3:44 p.m. EDT June 5, 2015

When Carol Bowne felt the threat of domestic violence, the petite hairdresser took steps to protect herself.

The Berlin Township woman got a restraining order against a former boyfriend, installed security cameras and an alarm system to her home and began the months-long process of obtaining a handgun, friends said.

But it wasn't enough.

Bowne, 39, was stabbed to death in the driveway of her Patton Avenue home on Wednesday night.

Her former boyfriend, 45-year-old Michael Eitel, was charged with her murder. Eitel, a convicted felon, was a fugitive Thursday, being sought by a U.S. Marshals Service task force.

Bowne's death shocked her friends and neighbors, who described her as a bubbly, well-liked person. But her slaying also embittered some, who felt the system had failed to protect a woman in danger.

"She did absolutely everything she was supposed to," said Denise Lovallo, a fellow hairdresser at O'Hara and Co. in Somerdale.

"Do they have enough now to get him?" she asked of Bowne's attacker.

Salon employees said Bowne was meticulous about her appearance, but had struggled recently with problems in her personal life.

"She got a restraining order about a month ago, and right after that her car windows were broken," said O'Hara.

Court records show Eitel pleaded guilty to a weapons offense in 2008 after being indicted in 2006 on a charge of aggravated assault with bodily injury. He received a five-year sentence for that offense, which neighbors said was related to an assault on a former girlfriend.

Berlin Township Police Chief Leonard Check said Bowne applied for a gun license on April 21, and that she had inquired Monday about her request.

The application process typically takes two months or more as police collect information on the applicant, including fingerprints and reference checks. "We did not get the fingerprint information yet," said Check.

Police went to the home around 10:15 p.m. Wednesday, when they found Bowne lying in the driveway with multiple stab wounds. Bowne was taken to Virtua Hospital in Berlin, where she was pronounced dead at 11:22 p.m.

Gunny
06-08-2015, 04:56 AM
This woman's "boyfriend" is charged with her murder. If convicted, he is clearly the major criminal in the case.

But he's not the only one.

There are laws against murder. Those laws call for very harsh penalties, as they should.

But there is also a law against government interfering with a person's right to keep and bear arms.

Unfortunately, that law doesn't call out specific penalties for those who violate it.

Though the person who stabbed the woman to death is clearly the one most at fault, others also contributed to her death... by banning her from owning or carrying a defensive weapon for months while she was in danger, despite her not breaking any laws or causing any problems. They clearly violated the 2nd amendment, which forbade them from infringing her right to carry a weapon to protect herself. And in doing so, contributed to her death.

Along with the murderer, shouldn't those others also be held responsible for their part in causing her death?

If not, why not?

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http://www.courierpostonline.com/story/news/crime/2015/06/04/woman-fatally-stabbed-berlin-twp/28461361/

Ex-boyfriend sought in woman's slaying

Jim Walsh, @jimwalsh_cp
3:44 p.m. EDT June 5, 2015

When Carol Bowne felt the threat of domestic violence, the petite hairdresser took steps to protect herself.

The Berlin Township woman got a restraining order against a former boyfriend, installed security cameras and an alarm system to her home and began the months-long process of obtaining a handgun, friends said.

But it wasn't enough.

Bowne, 39, was stabbed to death in the driveway of her Patton Avenue home on Wednesday night.

Her former boyfriend, 45-year-old Michael Eitel, was charged with her murder. Eitel, a convicted felon, was a fugitive Thursday, being sought by a U.S. Marshals Service task force.

Bowne's death shocked her friends and neighbors, who described her as a bubbly, well-liked person. But her slaying also embittered some, who felt the system had failed to protect a woman in danger.

"She did absolutely everything she was supposed to," said Denise Lovallo, a fellow hairdresser at O'Hara and Co. in Somerdale.

"Do they have enough now to get him?" she asked of Bowne's attacker.

Salon employees said Bowne was meticulous about her appearance, but had struggled recently with problems in her personal life.

"She got a restraining order about a month ago, and right after that her car windows were broken," said O'Hara.

Court records show Eitel pleaded guilty to a weapons offense in 2008 after being indicted in 2006 on a charge of aggravated assault with bodily injury. He received a five-year sentence for that offense, which neighbors said was related to an assault on a former girlfriend.

Berlin Township Police Chief Leonard Check said Bowne applied for a gun license on April 21, and that she had inquired Monday about her request.

The application process typically takes two months or more as police collect information on the applicant, including fingerprints and reference checks. "We did not get the fingerprint information yet," said Check.

Police went to the home around 10:15 p.m. Wednesday, when they found Bowne lying in the driveway with multiple stab wounds. Bowne was taken to Virtua Hospital in Berlin, where she was pronounced dead at 11:22 p.m.

There are a LOT of things wrong with your argument.

Little-Acorn
06-08-2015, 02:33 PM
Though the person who stabbed the woman to death is clearly the one most at fault, others also contributed to her death... by banning her from owning or carrying a defensive weapon for months while she was in danger, despite her not breaking any laws or causing any problems. They clearly violated the 2nd amendment, which forbade them from infringing her right to carry a weapon to protect herself. And in doing so, contributed to her death.

Along with the murderer, shouldn't those others also be held responsible for their part in causing her death?

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241

18 U.S. Code § 241:

If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or​


If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured—

They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death.​

gabosaurus
06-08-2015, 03:25 PM
I have a "restraining order" that I keep in a drawer next to our bed. Try to break in my house and I will restrain you from living another day.

LongTermGuy
06-08-2015, 03:39 PM
I have a "restraining order" that I keep in a drawer next to our bed. Try to break in my house and I will restrain you from living another day.


Good one...agree...welcome back Gabby....

revelarts
06-08-2015, 05:24 PM
When seconds count the police are only minutes away..


great Annie Oakley Quotes

"I would like to see every woman know how to handle [firearms] as naturally as they know how to handle babies."

“I ain’t afraid to love a man. I ain’t afraid to shoot him either.”