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namvet
06-10-2015, 07:20 PM
glad my service time is behind me

(WASHINGTONTIMES) — A married Army general on Tuesday introduced his spouse at a Pentagon event that featured lots of top brass, including Defense Secretary Ashton Carter as the keynote speaker.
What made this seemingly routine introduction noteworthy is that Brig. Gen. Randy S. Taylor introduced his husband, Lucas.
“My husband Lucas is sitting up front here,” Gen. Taylor said of the man in the same row as Mr. Carter, Army Secretary John McHugh and other senior officials. He said Lucas has subjugated his own career to support the general’s frequent moves over an 18-year relationship.

story (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/9/army-gen-randy-taylor-introduces-his-husband-penta/)

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
06-10-2015, 07:41 PM
glad my service time is behind me

(WASHINGTONTIMES) — A married Army general on Tuesday introduced his spouse at a Pentagon event that featured lots of top brass, including Defense Secretary Ashton Carter as the keynote speaker.
What made this seemingly routine introduction noteworthy is that Brig. Gen. Randy S. Taylor introduced his husband, Lucas.
“My husband Lucas is sitting up front here,” Gen. Taylor said of the man in the same row as Mr. Carter, Army Secretary John McHugh and other senior officials. He said Lucas has subjugated his own career to support the general’s frequent moves over an 18-year relationship.

story (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/9/army-gen-randy-taylor-introduces-his-husband-penta/)

Say it ain't so!!!!!
Should send that general and his wife directly into ISIS territory to fight this week IMHO.
Later give 'em a zero's burial.. :laugh:

Tis another example of why I warned two of my nephews to get out .. One did already other is going soon.
Totally ffked up shat my friend... Sad and seriously dangerous games for them to be playing IMHO.. --Tyr

Perianne
06-10-2015, 07:45 PM
Say it ain't so!!!!!
Should send that general and his wife directly into ISIS territory to fight this week IMHO.
Later give 'em a zero's burial.. :laugh:

Tis another example of why I warned two of my nephews to get out .. One did already other is going soon.
Totally ffked up shat my friend... Sad and seriously dangerous games for them to be playing IMHO.. --Tyr

But they were in love!

namvet
06-10-2015, 07:49 PM
But they were in love!

more like in heat

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
06-10-2015, 07:49 PM
But they were in love!

So were Hitler and his wife, Eva Anna Paula Hitler.......
sick is sick regardless of the emotions and perversion encapsulated. -Tyr

namvet
06-10-2015, 07:54 PM
Say it ain't so!!!!!
Should send that general and his wife directly into ISIS territory to fight this week IMHO.
Later give 'em a zero's burial.. :laugh:

Tis another example of why I warned two of my nephews to get out .. One did already other is going soon.
Totally ffked up shat my friend... Sad and seriously dangerous games for them to be playing IMHO.. --Tyr

maybe it had something to do with a bar a soap ?? :laugh:

in my time of service fags were bad for morale. good idea getting the nephews out pal. let's see if Obastard can fight with fags

Perianne
06-10-2015, 07:56 PM
maybe it had something to do with a bar a soap ?? :laugh:

in my time of service fags were bad for morale. good idea getting the nephews out pal. let's see if Obastard can fight with fags

I think Obama has a lot of experience with homosexuals.

namvet
06-10-2015, 08:04 PM
I think Obama has a lot of experience with homosexuals.

you would to if you had to live with ole nappy head bitch

http://i0.wp.com/radaronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/01-landscape-480px-wide41.jpg?fit=960%2C9999

Perianne
06-10-2015, 08:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et38_Ufv-Jw

aboutime
06-10-2015, 08:23 PM
Please PARDON my honesty, and complete disgust here.
BUT....this nation has already gone to HELL in a DAINTY, LITTLE, PINK, FRILLY Handbasket.

Imagine our enemies laughing as they Fornicate their Goats...calling them GENERAL???

namvet
06-10-2015, 08:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et38_Ufv-Jw

she died 2 mons after this. make ya wonder

namvet
06-10-2015, 08:35 PM
Please PARDON my honesty, and complete disgust here.
BUT....this nation has already gone to HELL in a DAINTY, LITTLE, PINK, FRILLY Handbasket.

Imagine our enemies laughing as they Fornicate their Goats...calling them GENERAL???


its enough to make ya weep

fj1200
06-10-2015, 08:48 PM
glad my service time is behind me

Was he a good soldier/colonel?


Later give 'em a zero's burial..

So you wish death on an American soldier? Classy.

indago
06-10-2015, 11:04 PM
more like in heat

Yes, they didn't call him Randy for nothing...

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
06-10-2015, 11:34 PM
I think Obama has a lot of experience with homosexuals.
I do too. Looks like he married a shemale to me.-Tyr

revelarts
06-11-2015, 12:13 AM
whatever happen to don't ask don't tell. Sheesh.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
06-11-2015, 09:08 AM
whatever happen to don't ask don't tell. Sheesh.

Those attempting to establish perversion as a norm have gotten their way , primarily thanks to the socialist dem party.
Thats what happened to it. Time to shove it in the faces of decent people and laugh at them for actually being moral and understanding
the basic tenants of the laws of Nature and God.....
The obama leads the way, remember he flipped on his gay marriage stand after he got his second term .
EVIL ALWAYS DECEIVES!! -Tyr

aboutime
06-11-2015, 12:37 PM
whatever happen to don't ask don't tell. Sheesh.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/23/us/23military.html

LongTermGuy
06-11-2015, 01:31 PM
whatever happen to don't ask don't tell. Sheesh.


Agree Rev...

Drummond
06-11-2015, 03:00 PM
Was he a good soldier/colonel?



So you wish death on an American soldier? Classy.

Ah, some diversionary Leftie sensibilities ...

'Thanks' for that, FJ ... just what we needed ...

Drummond
06-11-2015, 03:02 PM
Please PARDON my honesty, and complete disgust here.
BUT....this nation has already gone to HELL in a DAINTY, LITTLE, PINK, FRILLY Handbasket.

Imagine our enemies laughing as they Fornicate their Goats...calling them GENERAL???


I still say that Monty Python has a lot to answer for ...

aboutime
06-11-2015, 05:11 PM
I still say that Monty Python has a lot to answer for ...


Right you are. Monte set the standard for Operating Procedures on the Internet,where everybody gets to ARGUE, and INSIST...only they are correct about everything...:laugh:
http://youtu.be/kQFKtI6gn9Y

fj1200
06-12-2015, 08:29 AM
Ah, some diversionary Leftie sensibilities ...

'Thanks' for that, FJ ... just what we needed ...

Yet you don't care that one of your knucklehead friends essentially wished death on an American soldier. That's (another reason) why you're a hypocrite and a coward.

LongTermGuy
06-12-2015, 08:48 AM
Yet you don't care that one of your knucklehead friends essentially wished death on an American soldier. That's (another reason) why you're a hypocrite and a coward.


Ahhhhh...Yes...here we go again....Friday morning....the dancing Leftist...FXJohn :dance: (fj)..Starting bright and early...calling people names...accusing other`s ..."twisting"...spinning....and calling it debating....


:laugh:

fj1200
06-12-2015, 08:59 AM
Ahhhhh...Yes...here we go again....Friday morning....the dancing Leftist...FXJohn :dance: (fj)..Starting bright and early...calling people names...accusing other`s ..."twisting"...spinning....and calling it debating....


:laugh:

:facepalm99: I'd say that you should watch your libel because your pal might call you on it but I know the first rule of knuckleheads is to never question another knucklehead no matter how stupid they are. So how do you feel about your friend wishing death on an American soldier?

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
06-12-2015, 10:08 AM
Ahhhhh...Yes...here we go again....Friday morning....the dancing Leftist...FXJohn :dance: (fj)..Starting bright and early...calling people names...accusing other`s ..."twisting"...spinning....and calling it debating....


:laugh:

What kind of friends do you have my friend?
Seems some invisible members here are your friends, eh?
Just be careful, the world is a dangerous place and some clowns on the internet are not what they claim to be, right? ;)--Tyr

sundaydriver
06-12-2015, 10:39 AM
What kind of friends do you have my friend?
Seems some invisible members here are your friends, eh?
Just be careful, the world is a dangerous place and some clowns on the internet are not what they claim to be, right? ;)--Tyr

:rolleyes:

Bilgerat
06-12-2015, 10:49 AM
glad my service time is behind me

(WASHINGTONTIMES) — A married Army general on Tuesday introduced his spouse at a Pentagon event that featured lots of top brass, including Defense Secretary Ashton Carter as the keynote speaker.
What made this seemingly routine introduction noteworthy is that Brig. Gen. Randy S. Taylor introduced his husband, Lucas.
“My husband Lucas is sitting up front here,” Gen. Taylor said of the man in the same row as Mr. Carter, Army Secretary John McHugh and other senior officials. He said Lucas has subjugated his own career to support the general’s frequent moves over an 18-year relationship.

story (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jun/9/army-gen-randy-taylor-introduces-his-husband-penta/)


Since we might as well get used to this becoming the "Official Language of the USA"




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkl6hu37vXw

Drummond
06-12-2015, 05:07 PM
Yet you don't care that one of your knucklehead friends essentially wished death on an American soldier. That's (another reason) why you're a hypocrite and a coward.

From what I read, it'd be ISIS that would wish for, and arrange, that death.

But perhaps, FJ, you're too busy supporting ISIS's 'humanity', on account of them all being 'human beings', to understand that point ?

Or perhaps, FJ .. 'conservative' that you 'are', you're too busy looking for an excuse to attack a Conservative to notice, or care ?

Meanwhile, we have you skating over the 'his husband' objection ENTIRELY .. as befits a LEFTIE THINKER .....

You see, FJ, no matter how much you pretend not to be a Leftie, your true thinking KEEPS betraying you, because it KEEPS surfacing. As, indeed, it must. Which is ultimately what makes your attempt at self-misrepresentation a waste of everyone's time.

namvet
06-12-2015, 05:57 PM
I would say with Khakis and red high heels he's got protection from the libs

Drummond
06-12-2015, 09:26 PM
:facepalm99: I'd say that you should watch your libel because your pal might call you on it but I know the first rule of knuckleheads is to never question another knucklehead no matter how stupid they are. So how do you feel about your friend wishing death on an American soldier?

FJ, instead of all this diversionary stuff, how about your PROVING your charge of so-called 'libel' ?

H'mm ?

Actually, why bother ? You know that the truth is well understood, and you've been 'outed' on it repeatedly. If your so-called detractors could've been bested on it, you should have succeeded in that effort long ago. Needless to say, you haven't.

In the meantime, and for total clarity, tell us .. have you finally, and for good, decided whether you're a 'Libertarian' or a 'Thatcherite' .. ?

You cannot be both. But you've done your best to very arrogantly try and claim that you are. Stupidly. Pointlessly. But you try it ANYWAY.

If or when you can ever get your story straight, go for it. Until you do, forget trying to smear others with a thoroughly arrogant 'libel' smear-accusation.

gabosaurus
06-12-2015, 09:33 PM
...let's see if Obastard can fight with fags

I am guessing that Presidents throughout history have "fought with fags."
Perhaps you served with some. Unknowingly, of course. :cool:

https://richardjenglish.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/the-vietnam-war-a-queer-perspective/

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
06-12-2015, 10:07 PM
I am guessing that Presidents throughout history have "fought with fags."
Perhaps you served with some. Unknowingly, of course. :cool:

https://richardjenglish.wordpress.com/2012/04/11/the-vietnam-war-a-queer-perspective/


fags are for burning.. ;)--Tyr

fj1200
06-15-2015, 07:01 PM
From what I read...

Hey DumbF*, do you even know how to read? You're too friggin' stupid to even read your own buddies post.


FJ, instead of all this diversionary stuff, how about your PROVING your charge of so-called 'libel' ?

Hey DipS*, I'll prove it when your idiot friend starts to prove that he's not an incompetent delusional liar. It'll never happen though, I know you guys just feed on your own brand of stupid and he already knows he's full of BS. It's standard knucklehead fair, when you're in way over your head on any sort of discussion then it's start with the deflections; you know that rule all to well.

Gunny
06-15-2015, 07:05 PM
maybe it had something to do with a bar a soap ?? :laugh:

in my time of service fags were bad for morale. good idea getting the nephews out pal. let's see if Obastard can fight with fags

They were targets when I retired. Definitely bad in a line unit. Pvt Schmuckatelli, Pvt Fag will be in your two-man hooch with you. I don't see that working out at all. I sure-as-Hell wouldn't let them put me in a two-man tent with a fag.

Bilgerat
06-15-2015, 07:56 PM
http://38.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmjp82Jabw1qjnb0yo1_500.gif

Voted4Reagan
06-15-2015, 09:55 PM
who cares if they are gay...

I dont care if they are... as long as they do the job.

I am sure that a fair number of CMOH recipients are Homosexual.

Would you take the Medal of Honor away from someone just because they were Gay or Lesbian?

Perianne
06-15-2015, 10:08 PM
They were targets when I retired. Definitely bad in a line unit. Pvt Schmuckatelli, Pvt Fag will be in your two-man hooch with you. I don't see that working out at all. I sure-as-Hell wouldn't let them put me in a two-man tent with a fag.

What if he was really cute?

WiccanLiberal
06-15-2015, 10:38 PM
I am sure that every military in history has had a percentage of homosexuals as members in proportion to the number in the general population. I am equally certain that their combat performance has been as good or as bad as any other member. The other thing I am sure of is that being able to be open about one's sexuality is a good thing. If a person does not have to concern themselves with being "outed" they are less of a security risk. For those who say they would not want to serve with a gay person. I am under the impression that matters of sexual expression are not to be addressed in a duty situation and fraternization is forbidden. Why should it matter so much who someone goes home to when they are on leave? Bottom line is, if someone wishes to be in the military and serve our country honorably, I don't care who they are so long as they can defend me effectively. Oh yeah, the guy who organized Washington's army and helped found this country and wrote the standard drill manual used in the American Army until 1812, this guy was gay. Without his service to this nation we might very well not be having this discussion.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Baron_Steuben_by_Peale%2C_1780.jpg/220px-Baron_Steuben_by_Peale%2C_1780.jpg


Friedrich Wilhelm von Steuben

aboutime
06-16-2015, 11:29 AM
who cares if they are gay...

I dont care if they are... as long as they do the job.

I am sure that a fair number of CMOH recipients are Homosexual.

Would you take the Medal of Honor away from someone just because they were Gay or Lesbian?


V4R. I, as well, do not care...honestly. However. I do believe..our Military has been destroyed.

And anyone who hasn't been in the military...at any time. Has no idea what is really taking place, unseen, and unheard by civilians. You really need to live it, and have CONFIDENCE IN LEADERSHIP.
Unless that leadership is subject to Blackmail, Extortion, or other forms of crime...which the D.A.D.T. was originally designed to prevent.
OUR MILITARY is no longer being lead by REAL LEADERS...excusing them for being anything. Just doesn't cut it.
That is MY OPINION. And I'm sticking to it.

As for the claim about MOH winners. Really? You wanna stick with that?

Voted4Reagan
06-16-2015, 11:38 AM
As for the claim about MOH winners. Really? You wanna stick with that?

15 to 20% of the Population is Homosexual my friend....

The percentages dont change with Military service.

aboutime
06-16-2015, 01:17 PM
15 to 20% of the Population is Homosexual my friend....

The percentages dont change with Military service.


IF you insist. Got any proof for that concerning the military? If so. I'm open to correction.

Not trying to be a smart-ass here. But my 30 years had some experience...personal experience behind it.

Voted4Reagan
06-16-2015, 01:27 PM
IF you insist. Got any proof for that concerning the military? If so. I'm open to correction.

Not trying to be a smart-ass here. But my 30 years had some experience...personal experience behind it.

My Friend... My Godfather was a United States Marine (a 1st Lt.), He was a Wall Street Head Hunter, He is also Gay.

There have been Gays in the American Military since the Revolution.

There have to be quite a few that won the CMOH.

The percentages say so....

there have been 3507 winners of the CMOH

if 10% of the Population is gay in this country that equates to 350 winners.

Numbers dont lie... the are at least a couple hundred that have won it..

aboutime
06-16-2015, 01:31 PM
My Friend... My Godfather was a United States Marine (a 1st Lt.), He was a Wall Street Head Hunter, He is also Gay.

There have been Gays in the American Military since the Revolution.

There have to be quite a few that won the CMOH.

The percentages say so....


I don't doubt your Godfather was a Marine. I never said gays weren't in the military.

As for the CMOH. Show me. That's all I asked. You say percentages say so. Show me. Please.

Gunny
06-16-2015, 01:32 PM
who cares if they are gay...

I dont care if they are... as long as they do the job.

I am sure that a fair number of CMOH recipients are Homosexual.

Would you take the Medal of Honor away from someone just because they were Gay or Lesbian?

A bunch of alpha males that comprise most of the Marine Corps?

I'll say it again... IF Medal of Honor winners were gay, no one knew it. They were military FIRST.

THESE gays are gay first. If you aren't Marine first and keep your private life at home where it belongs, then I don't want you.

Openly gay people screw up unit cohesion which is built on trust, and that's how people die. I don't want to lose even ONE Marine because someone wants to openly flaunt their aberrant sexual behavior.

aboutime
06-16-2015, 01:35 PM
A bunch of alpha males that comprise most of the Marine Corps?

I'll say it again... IF Medal of Honor winners were gay, no one knew it. They were military FIRST.

THESE gays are gay first. If you aren't Marine first and keep your private life at home where it belongs, then I don't want you.

Openly gay people screw up unit cohesion which is built on trust, and that's how people die. I don't want to lose even ONE Marine because someone wants to openly flaunt their aberrant sexual behavior.

Gunny. Another case where I have to agree with you. When someone...anyone throws numbers at me related to MOH winners, and our military. I want proof. Not that I doubt them. But, if the shoe was on the other foot. I would be soundly told to PROVE it.

Gunny
06-16-2015, 01:37 PM
What if he was really cute?

:laugh:

Had one of those. He came out of the closet, mostly because he didn't want to go on float. I had to waste two of my Marines' time for 4 days while they processed him out of the Corps. It wasn't that anyone was worried about what he'd do. We had to put chasers (basically guards) on him to protect him from the other Marines.

Too much disruption.

And I guess by "cute" you mean a pretty boy? I prefer the big ugly ones that can hump their own gear AND ammo. :)

Gunny
06-16-2015, 01:44 PM
15 to 20% of the Population is Homosexual my friend....

The percentages dont change with Military service.

About 5% is.

Gunny
06-16-2015, 01:52 PM
My Friend... My Godfather was a United States Marine (a 1st Lt.), He was a Wall Street Head Hunter, He is also Gay.

There have been Gays in the American Military since the Revolution.

There have to be quite a few that won the CMOH.

The percentages say so....

there have been 3507 winners of the CMOH

if 10% of the Population is gay in this country that equates to 350 winners.

Numbers dont lie... the are at least a couple hundred that have won it..

Yes, numbers DO lie; especially, when they are based on the agenda of WHO is compiling the stats.

And to correct you: the proper term is Medal of Honor. There is no "Congressional" in there.

Be that as it may, the number of MOH recipients who may or may not have been gay is irrelevant. No one knew who they were. As it should be. This is about flaunting being gay. Nothing more nor less. Just another attack on the majority by the aberrant minority. Everything about this country now supports the tyranny of the minority rather than the will of the majority. This is just another example.

AT is absolutely right on this one. You have to live it to understand it.

aboutime
06-16-2015, 02:08 PM
Screw it! I forgot. Everybody MUST always be right about everything.
Forget it. This stuff is really pissing me off anymore. NOBODY is allowed to say anything about anything because EVERYBODY is an EXPERT in stuff they MUST always be right in, or ELSE.

I quit.

WiccanLiberal
06-16-2015, 02:08 PM
In another five years,’ Thomas G. Kelley was saying yesterday, ‘I doubt this will be an issue. Remember, in 1948, people blasted Harry Truman for integrating the military. They said mixing blacks and whites could never work.
As it turned out, the military was ahead of the rest of society on that issue. On this issue, the military is years behind.’
Kelley, who is secretary of the Massachusetts Department of Veteran’s Services, a naval officer and a Medal of Honor recipient in Vietnam, had followed coverage of testimony on the ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy last week before the Senate Armed Services Committee.
‘No matter how I look at the issue,’ Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the committee, ‘I cannot escape being troubled by the fact that we have in place a policy which forces young men and women to lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens. . . . Allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly would be the right thing to do.’

Shortly after Mike Mullen spoke his mind, Kelley sent his friend an e-mail congratulating him for articulating the view Kelley has held for more than 20 years.
‘Admiral Mullen was honest enough to say that he’d served with homosexuals since 1968,’ Kelley said. ‘It was the same for me, when I was commanding a ship more than 25 years ago. There was no secret about who was gay . . . and it didn’t matter. What mattered was that they were good sailors, trustworthy and reliable people you could depend upon.’
Like so many others, Kelley believes the resistance to scuttling ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ falls largely along generational lines. The older the soldier, the harder to let go of outdated stereotypes and caricatures that don’t apply.
‘You hear this nonsense about gays threatening unit cohesion,’ Kelley said. ‘The real threat to that kind of cohesion, that sense of family, is when people are forced to acknowledge a lie. You have to be able to trust the soldier precisely for who he or she may be. That’s the only way cohesion takes place. It’s called integrity.’

The article is from 2010. Still says something useful

Gunny
06-16-2015, 02:38 PM
In another five years,’ Thomas G. Kelley was saying yesterday, ‘I doubt this will be an issue. Remember, in 1948, people blasted Harry Truman for integrating the military. They said mixing blacks and whites could never work.
As it turned out, the military was ahead of the rest of society on that issue. On this issue, the military is years behind.’
Kelley, who is secretary of the Massachusetts Department of Veteran’s Services, a naval officer and a Medal of Honor recipient in Vietnam, had followed coverage of testimony on the ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ policy last week before the Senate Armed Services Committee.
‘No matter how I look at the issue,’ Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, told the committee, ‘I cannot escape being troubled by the fact that we have in place a policy which forces young men and women to lie about who they are in order to defend their fellow citizens. . . . Allowing gays and lesbians to serve openly would be the right thing to do.’

Shortly after Mike Mullen spoke his mind, Kelley sent his friend an e-mail congratulating him for articulating the view Kelley has held for more than 20 years.
‘Admiral Mullen was honest enough to say that he’d served with homosexuals since 1968,’ Kelley said. ‘It was the same for me, when I was commanding a ship more than 25 years ago. There was no secret about who was gay . . . and it didn’t matter. What mattered was that they were good sailors, trustworthy and reliable people you could depend upon.’
Like so many others, Kelley believes the resistance to scuttling ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell’ falls largely along generational lines. The older the soldier, the harder to let go of outdated stereotypes and caricatures that don’t apply.
‘You hear this nonsense about gays threatening unit cohesion,’ Kelley said. ‘The real threat to that kind of cohesion, that sense of family, is when people are forced to acknowledge a lie. You have to be able to trust the soldier precisely for who he or she may be. That’s the only way cohesion takes place. It’s called integrity.’

The article is from 2010. Still says something useful

One opinion. That MOH gives his no more weight than anyone else's.

Voted4Reagan
06-16-2015, 05:03 PM
I don't doubt your Godfather was a Marine. I never said gays weren't in the military.

As for the CMOH. Show me. That's all I asked. You say percentages say so. Show me. Please.

How will that even be possible... the Military only has allowed open practice for a year or so...

a low estimate of the percentage of gay men has always been set around 10% to 12%. If you add in Bi-Sexual it increases to about 20% of the population.

We will never have a count of who was gay and who wasn't. The Military would have executed them or imprisoned them up until a few years ago. You know full well that Gays would have been assaulted, beaten or killed if they were found out.. It happened on board ships all the time.

We have to take it on faith that out of 3507 winners.... Some of them were Gay.

The Military has Never been 100% Straight.. Gays have always served.. Von Steuben proved that during the Revolution. But because he was a Prussian and a Paid Mercenary he could be Gay.

I can probably give you one of the First.... Dr. Mary Edwards Walker, United States Army


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Citation:


Whereas it appears from official reports that Dr. Mary E. Walker, a graduate of medicine, "has rendered valuable service to the Government and her efforts have been earnest and untiring in a variety of ways," and that she was assigned to duty and served as an assistant surgeon in charge of female prisoners at Louisville, Ky., upon the recommendation of Major GeneralsSherman (http://www.aboutnorthgeorgia.com/ang/William_Tecumseh_Sherman) and Thomas (http://www.aboutnorthgeorgia.com/ang/George_Henry_Thomas), and faithfully served as contract surgeon in the service of the United States, and has devoted herself with much patriotic zeal to the sick and wounded soldiers, both in the field and hospitals, to the detriment of her own health, and has also endured hardships as a prisoner of war four months in a Southern prison while acting as contract surgeon; and

Whereas by reason of her not being a commissioned officer in the military service, a brevet or honorary rank cannot, under existing laws, be conferred upon her; and

Whereas in the opinion of the President an honorable recognition of her services and sufferings should be made:

It is ordered, That a testimonial thereof shall be hereby made and given to the said Dr. Mary E. Walker, and that the usual medal of honor for meritorious services be given her.

Given under my hand in the city of Washington, D.C., this 11th day of November, A.D. 1865.

</tbody>

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1e/Mary_edwards_walker.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Dr_Mary_Edwards_Walker_man%27s_top_coat_and_hat_c_ 1911.jpg



Certainly a transvestite and assuredly a Lesbian...

aboutime
06-16-2015, 07:45 PM
How will that even be possible... the Military only has allowed open practice for a year or so...

a low estimate of the percentage of gay men has always been set around 10% to 12%. If you add in Bi-Sexual it increases to about 20% of the population.

We will never have a count of who was gay and who wasn't. The Military would have executed them or imprisoned them up until a few years ago. You know full well that Gays would have been assaulted, beaten or killed if they were found out.. It happened on board ships all the time.

We have to take it on faith that out of 3507 winners.... Some of them were Gay.

The Military has Never been 100% Straight.. Gays have always served.. Von Steuben proved that during the Revolution. But because he was a Prussian and a Paid Mercenary he could be Gay.

I can probably give you one of the First.... Dr. Mary Edwards Walker, United States Army


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Whereas it appears from official reports that Dr. Mary E. Walker, a graduate of medicine, "has rendered valuable service to the Government and her efforts have been earnest and untiring in a variety of ways," and that she was assigned to duty and served as an assistant surgeon in charge of female prisoners at Louisville, Ky., upon the recommendation of Major GeneralsSherman (http://www.aboutnorthgeorgia.com/ang/William_Tecumseh_Sherman) and Thomas (http://www.aboutnorthgeorgia.com/ang/George_Henry_Thomas), and faithfully served as contract surgeon in the service of the United States, and has devoted herself with much patriotic zeal to the sick and wounded soldiers, both in the field and hospitals, to the detriment of her own health, and has also endured hardships as a prisoner of war four months in a Southern prison while acting as contract surgeon; and

Whereas by reason of her not being a commissioned officer in the military service, a brevet or honorary rank cannot, under existing laws, be conferred upon her; and

Whereas in the opinion of the President an honorable recognition of her services and sufferings should be made:

It is ordered, That a testimonial thereof shall be hereby made and given to the said Dr. Mary E. Walker, and that the usual medal of honor for meritorious services be given her.

Given under my hand in the city of Washington, D.C., this 11th day of November, A.D. 1865.

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Certainly a transvestite and assuredly a Lesbian...


I have to ask you the very same question. "How can you be sure?"

And I will quote your words here: ( "I am sure that a fair number of CMOH recipients are Homosexual.")
How, and why would anyone say that if..."they have no way to be sure?"

Voted4Reagan
06-16-2015, 08:31 PM
I have to ask you the very same question. "How can you be sure?"

And I will quote your words here: ( "I am sure that a fair number of CMOH recipients are Homosexual.")
How, and why would anyone say that if..."they have no way to be sure?"

Because... just the numbers alone indicate that it has to be true. The law of probability proves this.

You cant flip a coin 3507 times and have it come up the same way every time. Initially the odds are 50/50 heads or tails. Probability dictates that a percentage have to have been homosexual.

Even if only between 5% and 12% of the Population is homosexual, it stands to Mathematical reason that a certain percentage of those winning the award were indeed Gay. That translates to between 175 and 400 people out of 3507 were Gay/Bisexual or Lesbian.

It is basic Mathematical Principle my friend... Probability alone proves this. You can refute the premise based on not being able to Identify individual names. But the Numbers prove that it has to be true.

Your argument is based on a Negative truth. Mine is based on an affirmative. Mathematics proves mine. You can't prove a negative truth my friend.