PDA

View Full Version : Seven Million Died In the Russian Holocaust In Ukraine



tailfins
06-27-2015, 05:24 PM
During the bitter winter of 1932-33, 25,000 Ukrainians per day were being shot or died of starvation and cold. Cannibalism became common. Ukraine, writes historian Robert Conquest, looked like a giant version of the future Bergen-Belsen death camp.


The mass murder of seven million Ukrainians, three million of them children, and deportation to the gulag of two million more (where most died) was hidden by Soviet propaganda. Pro-communist westerners, like The New York Times' Walter Duranty, British writers Sidney and Beatrice Webb and French Prime Minister Edouard Herriot, toured Ukraine, denied reports of genocide, and applauded what they called Soviet "agrarian reform." Those who spoke out against the genocide were branded "fascist agents."


Russia never prosecuted any of its mass murderers, as Germany did.


But who remembers Soviet mass murderers Dzerzhinsky, Kaganovitch, Yagoda, Yezhov and Beria? Were it not for writer Alexander Solzhenitsyn, we might never know of Soviet death camps like Magadan, Kolyma and Vorkuta. Movie after movie appears about Nazi evil, while the evil of the Soviet era vanishes from view or dissolves into nostalgia.
The souls of Stalin's millions of victims still cry out for justice.

http://www.ukemonde.com/genocide/margolisholocaust.html

Little-Acorn
06-27-2015, 05:49 PM
Did you have some comment about this?

BTW, it was called "Holodomor".

Balu
06-27-2015, 06:34 PM
Did you have some comment about this?

BTW, it was called "Holodomor".

No. Ukrainians called it Golodomor, demonstrating the the US pictures of 30-s, provided by "radio operator Kate" - Katherine Chumachenko, the wife of the 3-rd President of Ukraine. (*)

Holod - for cold
Golod - for hunger.

It was a time of Yushchenko's presidency when an extensive propaganda campaign of mass famine in Ukraine in the 30s was conducted.

(*)
Kateryna Yushchenko was born Catherine Claire Chumachenko in Chicago to immigrants from the Left-bank Ukraine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-bank_Ukraine). She is a former U.S. State Department (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._State_Department) official. She worked as a special assistant to the Assistant Secretary of State for Human Rights and Humanitarian Affairs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assistant_Secretary_of_State_for_Human_Rights_and_ Humanitarian_Affairs). She holds a bachelor degree in International Economics from the Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_A._Walsh_School_of_Foreign_Service) at Georgetown University (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgetown_University) (1982), and an MBA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBA) from the University of Chicago Graduate School of Business (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Chicago_Graduate_School_of_Business) (1986).

She later worked in the White House (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House) in the Office of Public Liaison during the administration of Ronald Reagan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan). Subsequently, she worked at the U.S. Treasury (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Treasury) in the executive secretary's office during the administration of George H. W. Bush (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush). After leaving that position, she was on the staff of the Joint Economic Committee of the United States Congress (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress). After Ukraine declared its freedom, she was a co-founder and the vice-president of Ukraine-USA Foundation.
(I've never heard about "former" intelligence officers. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/dntknw.gif )

tailfins
06-27-2015, 06:48 PM
No. Ukrainians called it Golodomor, demonstrating the the US pictures of 30-s, provided by "radio operator Kate" - Katherine Chumachenko, the wife of the 3-rd President of Ukraine. (*)

Holod - for cold
Golod - for hunger.

(*)
Kateryna Yushchenko was born Catherine Claire Chumachenko in Chicago to immigrants from the Left-bank Ukraine (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-bank_Ukraine). She is a former U.S. State Department (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._State_Department) official. She worked as a special assistant to the Assistant Secretary of State for Human Rights and Humanitarian Affairs (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assistant_Secretary_of_State_for_Human_Rights_and_ Humanitarian_Affairs). She holds a bachelor degree in International Economics from the Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmund_A._Walsh_School_of_Foreign_Service) at Georgetown University (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgetown_University) (1982), and an MBA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MBA) from the University of Chicago Graduate School of Business (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Chicago_Graduate_School_of_Business) (1986).

She later worked in the White House (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House) in the Office of Public Liaison during the administration of Ronald Reagan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Reagan). Subsequently, she worked at the U.S. Treasury (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Treasury) in the executive secretary's office during the administration of George H. W. Bush (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush). After leaving that position, she was on the staff of the Joint Economic Committee of the United States Congress (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Congress). After Ukraine declared its freedom, she was a co-founder and the vice-president of Ukraine-USA Foundation.
(I've never heard about "former" intelligence officers. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/dntknw.gif )

Does that mean you deny that millions of Ukrainians were shot and starved by the Russians in the early 1930s? Is Russia's claim to Eastern Ukraine and Crimea based on the idea that only Russians are left because they murdered the Ukrainians?

Here's some video if you like?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1yy_nHrY4o

Balu
06-27-2015, 06:56 PM
Does that mean you deny that millions of Ukrainians were shot and starved by the Russians in the early 1930s?

This is a Western propaganda fake. But it will come up to you. You are omnivorous and are accustomed to such a bullshit.

Drummond
06-27-2015, 08:09 PM
This is a Western propaganda fake. But it will come up to you. You are omnivorous and are accustomed to such a bullshit.

Wow.

I'll be honest, of course, and admit I need to do some research on this one. But - judging from what I'm reading ... do I correctly understand you to be a form of Holocaust denier ???

Drummond
06-27-2015, 08:20 PM
Wow.

I'll be honest, of course, and admit I need to do some research on this one. But - judging from what I'm reading ... do I correctly understand you to be a form of Holocaust denier ???

It took me less than 2 minutes to find THIS ....

http://www.historyplace.com/worldhistory/genocide/stalin.htm


Joseph Stalin, leader of the Soviet Union, set in motion events designed to cause a famine in the Ukraine to destroy the people there seeking independence from his rule. As a result, an estimated 7,000,000 persons perished in this farming area, known as the breadbasket of Europe, with the people deprived of the food they had grown with their own hands.

The Ukrainian independence movement actually predated the Stalin era. Ukraine, which measures about the size of France, had been under the domination of the Imperial Czars of Russia for 200 years. With the collapse of the Czarist rule in March 1917, it seemed the long-awaited opportunity for independence had finally arrived. Optimistic Ukrainians declared their country to be an independent People's Republic and re-established the ancient capital city of Kiev as the seat of government.

However, their new-found freedom was short-lived. By the end of 1917, Vladimir Lenin, the first leader of the Soviet Union, sought to reclaim all of the areas formerly controlled by the Czars, especially the fertile Ukraine. As a result, four years of chaos and conflict followed in which Ukrainian national troops fought against Lenin's Red Army, and also against Russia's White Army (troops still loyal to the Czar) as well as other invading forces including the Germans and Poles.

By 1921, the battles ended with a Soviet victory while the western part of the Ukraine was divided-up among Poland, Romania, and Czechoslovakia. The Soviets immediately began shipping out huge amounts of grain to feed the hungry people of Moscow and other big Russian cities. Coincidentally, a drought occurred in the Ukraine, resulting in widespread starvation and a surge of popular resentment against Lenin and the Soviets.

To lessen the deepening resentment, Lenin relaxed his grip on the country, stopped taking out so much grain, and even encouraged a free-market exchange of goods. This breath of fresh air renewed the people's interest in independence and resulted in a national revival movement celebrating their unique folk customs, language, poetry, music, arts, and Ukrainian orthodox religion.

But when Lenin died in 1924, he was succeeded by Joseph Stalin, one of the most ruthless humans ever to hold power. To Stalin, the burgeoning national revival movement and continuing loss of Soviet influence in the Ukraine was completely unacceptable. To crush the people's free spirit, he began to employ the same methods he had successfully used within the Soviet Union. Thus, beginning in 1929, over 5,000 Ukrainian scholars, scientists, cultural and religious leaders were arrested after being falsely accused of plotting an armed revolt. Those arrested were either shot without a trial or deported to prison camps in remote areas of Russia.

Stalin also imposed the Soviet system of land management known as collectivization. This resulted in the seizure of all privately owned farmlands and livestock, in a country where 80 percent of the people were traditional village farmers. Among those farmers, were a class of people called Kulaks by the Communists. They were formerly wealthy farmers that had owned 24 or more acres, or had employed farm workers. Stalin believed any future insurrection would be led by the Kulaks, thus he proclaimed a policy aimed at "liquidating the Kulaks as a class."

Declared "enemies of the people," the Kulaks were left homeless and without a single possession as everything was taken from them, even their pots and pans. It was also forbidden by law for anyone to aid dispossessed Kulak families. Some researchers estimate that ten million persons were thrown out of their homes, put on railroad box cars and deported to "special settlements" in the wilderness of Siberia during this era, with up to a third of them perishing amid the frigid living conditions. Men and older boys, along with childless women and unmarried girls, also became slave-workers in Soviet-run mines and big industrial projects.

Back in the Ukraine, once-proud village farmers were by now reduced to the level of rural factory workers on large collective farms. Anyone refusing to participate in the compulsory collectivization system was simply denounced as a Kulak and deported.

A propaganda campaign was started utilizing eager young Communist activists who spread out among the country folk attempting to shore up the people's support for the Soviet regime. However, their attempts failed. Despite the propaganda, ongoing coercion and threats, the people continued to resist through acts of rebellion and outright sabotage. They burned their own homes rather than surrender them. They took back their property, tools and farm animals from the collectives, harassed and even assassinated local Soviet authorities. This ultimately put them in direct conflict with the power and authority of Joseph Stalin.

Soviet troops and secret police were rushed in to put down the rebellion. They confronted rowdy farmers by firing warning shots above their heads. In some cases, however, they fired directly at the people. Stalin's secret police (GPU, predecessor of the KGB) also went to work waging a campaign of terror designed to break the people's will. GPU squads systematically attacked and killed uncooperative farmers.

But the resistance continued. The people simply refused to become cogs in the Soviet farm machine and remained stubbornly determined to return to their pre-Soviet farming lifestyle. Some refused to work at all, leaving the wheat and oats to rot in unharvested fields. Once again, they were placing themselves in conflict with Stalin.

In Moscow, Stalin responded to their unyielding defiance by dictating a policy that would deliberately cause mass starvation and result in the deaths of millions.

By mid 1932, nearly 75 percent of the farms in the Ukraine had been forcibly collectivized. On Stalin's orders, mandatory quotas of foodstuffs to be shipped out to the Soviet Union were drastically increased in August, October and again in January 1933, until there was simply no food remaining to feed the people of the Ukraine.

Much of the hugely abundant wheat crop harvested by the Ukrainians that year was dumped on the foreign market to generate cash to aid Stalin's Five Year Plan for the modernization of the Soviet Union and also to help finance his massive military buildup. If the wheat had remained in the Ukraine, it was estimated to have been enough to feed all of the people there for up to two years.

Ukrainian Communists urgently appealed to Moscow for a reduction in the grain quotas and also asked for emergency food aid. Stalin responded by denouncing them and rushed in over 100,000 fiercely loyal Russian soldiers to purge the Ukrainian Communist Party. The Soviets then sealed off the borders of the Ukraine, preventing any food from entering, in effect turning the country into a gigantic concentration camp. Soviet police troops inside the Ukraine also went house to house seizing any stored up food, leaving farm families without a morsel. All food was considered to be the "sacred" property of the State. Anyone caught stealing State property, even an ear of corn or stubble of wheat, could be shot or imprisoned for not less than ten years.

Starvation quickly ensued throughout the Ukraine, with the most vulnerable, children and the elderly, first feeling the effects of malnutrition. The once-smiling young faces of children vanished forever amid the constant pain of hunger. It gnawed away at their bellies, which became grossly swollen, while their arms and legs became like sticks as they slowly starved to death.

Mothers in the countryside sometimes tossed their emaciated children onto passing railroad cars traveling toward cities such as Kiev in the hope someone there would take pity. But in the cities, children and adults who had already flocked there from the countryside were dropping dead in the streets, with their bodies carted away in horse-drawn wagons to be dumped in mass graves. Occasionally, people lying on the sidewalk who were thought to be dead, but were actually still alive, were also carted away and buried.

While police and Communist Party officials remained quite well fed, desperate Ukrainians ate leaves off bushes and trees, killed dogs, cats, frogs, mice and birds then cooked them. Others, gone mad with hunger, resorted to cannibalism, with parents sometimes even eating their own children.

Well, well, well.

Shows how deficient my grasp of history has been about your part of the world, Balu. I was aware that Stalin was one of the worst mass murderers in history. This detail, though, I was unaware of until right now.

Very well. Deny the truth of this article if you can. And let's see what we shall see !