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Kathianne
08-10-2015, 07:18 PM
As per a request, going to look up some of the other candidates and what they've been doing since the debate:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/10/politics/scott-walker-hillary-clinton-south-carolina/index.html


After GOP debate, Scott Walker refocuses on Hillary ClintonBy Elizabeth Landers (http://www.cnn.com/profiles/elizabeth-landers), CNN

Updated 12:13 PM ET, Mon August 10, 2015

...

"Hillary Clinton, after we've seen these emails, could be the deceiver in chief, but we can't trust her to be the commander in chief," Walker declared, before adding, "Every where she's touched it's more messed up today than it was before she and the president took office. She is a real threat to this country going forward."


Rand Paul (and other candidates in other variations) have said before in South Carolina that her handling of Benghazi "precludes her from ever being president," but on Sunday, Walker used Clinton as a real and tangible threat to fire up the crowd at the beginning of his speech.


At an afternoon event at an American Legion hall in Rock Hill, Walker jumped ahead of himself in his stump speech by saying, "First I want to talk about another candidate running for president... And instead of talking about the guy that was in the middle of the stage the other day, we need to talk about the real threat in this race and that is the possibility that Hillary Clinton could be elected president of the United States."
...

He praised, even if it was a backhanded compliment, the GOP candidates who took part in both debates on Thursday night. "Any of the people on that stage where I was standing would be infinitely better than Hillary Clinton as the next president of the United States."

gabosaurus
08-10-2015, 09:03 PM
Aren't all the GOP candidates going after Clinton? Walker needs to clarify his stand on other important issues. Among Dems and independents, very few voters know who he is.

Kathianne
08-10-2015, 09:05 PM
Aren't all the GOP candidates going after Clinton? Walker needs to clarify his stand on other important issues. Among Dems and independents, very few voters know who he is.

I doubt he's looking for your advice.

gabosaurus
08-10-2015, 09:08 PM
Walker can go after Clinton all he wants. Since he has very little chance of ever running against her.

Gunny
08-10-2015, 09:22 PM
Aren't all the GOP candidates going after Clinton? Walker needs to clarify his stand on other important issues. Among Dems and independents, very few voters know who he is.

It's easy to go after Hiltlery if anyone wants to uit playing kiss-ass politics and abide the law. She has committed multiple felonies. Having your own private server you use for official government business is a felony.

Material is classified at generation, not after the fact as the left likes to lie about. The topic is classified or not, and contents are classified or not FROM GENERATION based --- guess what loony lefty? ... the fucking topic.

The fact that you lefties will turn a blind eye to a criminal is despicable.

I think everyone knows who Carly Fiarino is based on the leftwing smear campaign since Thursday. That would be called a threat.

You lefty morons need to move the Hell out of this country. You can neither red nore comprehend the Constitution and you act like Marxists. So go to a marxist country and leave us normal people alone.

Kathianne
08-10-2015, 09:28 PM
It's easy to go after Hiltlery if anyone wants to uit playing kiss-ass politics and abide the law. She has committed multiple felonies. Having your own private server you use for official government business is a felony.

Material is classified at generation, not after the fact as the left likes to lie about. The topic is classified or not, and contents are classified or not FROM GENERATION based --- guess what loony lefty? ... the fucking topic.

The fact that you lefties will turn a blind eye to a criminal is despicable.

I think everyone knows who Carly Fiarino is based on the leftwing smear campaign since Thursday. That would be called a threat.

You lefty morons need to move the Hell out of this country. You can neither red nore comprehend the Constitution and you act like Marxists. So go to a marxist country and leave us normal people alone.

It think she was referring to Scott Walker:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/scott-walker-philadelphia-gop-2016-nominee-long-primary-convention-120736.html


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PHILADELPHIA — When he launched his presidential bid earlier this month, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker made clear that his emphasis was overwhelmingly on Iowa, the early-voting Midwestern neighbor state with the power to cement his position as a top White House contender.

But on Tuesday, Walker hinted at a backup plan.


After a pitstop at two iconic cheesesteak shops here, bookended by two fundraising events, Walker suggested that Republican primary could drag on for months, driving up the importance of states that vote later in the spring — states like Pennsylvania, which doesn’t vote until the end of April.


“We’re not just running an early-state campaign,” said Walker, who’s wrapping up a three-week-long announcement tour that’s included stops in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada, the four earliest-voting states, and also taken him to Chicago and Philadelphia.


“We think with the quality of the field it’s very likely that even states like [Pennsylvania] later in April will play a role,” he continued. “It may go as far as — it could be close to the convention before we know who the ultimate nominee is.”


Walker noted that Pennsylvania is a traditional swing state in the general election, albeit one that hasn’t voted for the GOP presidential nominee since 1988. If Republicans want to compete here next November, he said, they should start showing up now.


“If you want to make a case in November of 2016 that you care about people’s votes, you can’t just show up a couple months before,” he said. “You’ve got to make the case early on.”

...

Gunny
08-10-2015, 09:29 PM
It think she was referring to Scott Walker:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/07/scott-walker-philadelphia-gop-2016-nominee-long-primary-convention-120736.html

I was referring to her. :)

Kathianne
08-10-2015, 09:31 PM
I was referring to her. :)
:laugh2:

gabosaurus
08-10-2015, 11:03 PM
You lefty morons need to move the Hell out of this country. You can neither red nore comprehend the Constitution and you act like Marxists. So go to a marxist country and leave us normal people alone.

Some of us don't like Clinton any more than you do. You just enjoy pretending that we all like her.

And you are more of a Marxist than I am. And a lot less normal than I am. :cool:

Jeff
08-10-2015, 11:12 PM
Some of us don't like Clinton any more than you do. You just enjoy pretending that we all like her.

OK , first Gabs you don't like Hillary ???

And you are more of a Marxist than I am. And a lot less normal than I am. :cool:

And yea I think ya got Gunny there, as much as I hate to admit it, you are probably more normal than him. :laugh:

Gunny
08-10-2015, 11:23 PM
Some of us don't like Clinton any more than you do. You just enjoy pretending that we all like her.

And you are more of a Marxist than I am. And a lot less normal than I am. :cool:

Nope. No pretending. Like her or not, you'll vote for her.

And waste of space, there's nothing Marxist about me and nothing normal about you.

nd when you learn what "liberal" really means, get back to me. I'd as soon live in a cabin in the hill, grow my own veggies and hunt my own food and not give a damn what you or anyone else is doing. But we apparently can't keep YOUR leftwing, marxist government out of our asses and wallets.

So you want to try that one again?

red state
08-10-2015, 11:39 PM
Here's a walker that I wish HELLary would not only have going after her...but would CATCH her. However, seeing as how HELLary is DEAD inside, the walker may have no interest in her. Then again, she may be the one going after a STIFF cuz the news seems to imply that ole Slick Willie is still burying his bones somewhere in someone else's yard. :laugh:


http://www.fright-bytes.com/scary-halloween-animations/zombies/zombie4.gif

red state
08-10-2015, 11:45 PM
Nope. No pretending. Like her or not, you'll vote for her.

And waste of space, there's nothing Marxist about me and nothing normal about you.

nd when you learn what "liberal" really means, get back to me. I'd as soon live in a cabin in the hill, grow my own veggies and hunt my own food and not give a damn what you or anyone else is doing. But we apparently can't keep YOUR leftwing, marxist government out of our asses and wallets.

So you want to try that one again?


That's right.....THEY want us all to live in lil' concentration camps so that "nature" isn't disturbed. Good thing this $#!T didn't go around when our forefathers explored settled and trapped for a living. Gunny, I sometimes want to gear up and simply LEAVE but even if we did, you will NEVER be left alone. The Game & Fish, ATF and who knows all those that'd be after us. Alaska seems to still welcome some of what America WAS but even there you have to come up with the cash to be a mountain man.......or hermit. Heck, it's a good dang thing that my grandfather and others didn't have to buy a fishing or hunting license during the depression. Even if you did......common sense prevailed and the love of man (not the beast) was greater.

fj1200
08-11-2015, 09:17 AM
As per a request, going to look up some of the other candidates and what they've been doing since the debate:

I think they would just need to revive that "3 a.m. phone call commercial." --> Benghazi.

Kathianne
08-11-2015, 09:24 AM
I think they would just need to revive that "3 a.m. phone call commercial." --> Benghazi.

Indeed.

However it seems the enemy isn't Hillary, but conservatives that think different. I'm pretty sure I can add 'troll' to the recent names I've been called.

Abbey Marie
08-11-2015, 12:45 PM
Aren't all the GOP candidates going after Clinton? Walker needs to clarify his stand on other important issues. Among Dems and independents, very few voters know who he is.

Hard to say, since they had to spend their screen time defending themselves during the entire first debate. Walker made it his business to mention her even though he had to force it into an answer.

I just saw him on TV again yesterday, talking about how we need to talk about Hillary.

Again, a guy I'm enjoying learning more about.

Abbey Marie
08-11-2015, 12:46 PM
It's easy to go after Hiltlery if anyone wants to uit playing kiss-ass politics and abide the law. She has committed multiple felonies. Having your own private server you use for official government business is a felony.

Material is classified at generation, not after the fact as the left likes to lie about. The topic is classified or not, and contents are classified or not FROM GENERATION based --- guess what loony lefty? ... the fucking topic.

The fact that you lefties will turn a blind eye to a criminal is despicable.
...



:salute:

Kathianne
08-11-2015, 08:54 PM
Well this would be nice:

https://ricochet.com/scott-walker-and-a-return-to-normalcy/


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August 11, 2015 at 6:21 pm


https://7373-presscdn-0-43-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/scott_walker9.jpgDespite what The Donald and Jeb! and Carly said in last week’s debate, Scott Walker’s closing statement tackled an even larger elephant in the room: “I’m a guy with a wife, two kids, and a Harley. One article called me ‘aggressively normal (http://time.com/3988276/republican-debate-primetime-transcript-full-text/).’” The Wisconsin Governor’s detractors aren’t as euphemistic. Let’s face it: Scott Walker is B-O-R-I-N-G.


He brags about the bargain rack at Kohl’s. He spends his Sunday mornings at church and his Sunday afternoons watching the Packers. He live-tweets his haircuts and getting the oil changed in his Saturn. His only unhealthy obsession seems to be an addiction to hot ham and rolls after church. (He really loves hot ham (http://bluenationreview.com/scott-walker-really-loves-ham-and-talking-about-ham/).)


In a news cycle filled with burning cities, beheaded Christians, and transgendered Kardashians, how does a dull Midwesterner stand out? He showed how Thursday night. To paraphrase a reporter talking about Barry Goldwater’s presidential strategy, “my God, Walker is running as Walker!”


This isn’t the first time a politician listed “aggressively normal” as a selling point. In 1920, America’s political climate was in even greater tumult than today’s. President Wilson had fundamentally transformed the federal government into an oppressive entity that regularly jailed detractors, instituted a then-unimaginable level of regulation, and created the first income tax. Our battered soldiers returned from the charnel houses of Europe to find an executive branch pushing for an even more robust internationalism. By the time the president was incapacitated by stroke (a fact hidden for months), most Americans had had enough.


In a field of flashy candidates, a dull Midwesterner caught the zeitgeist by calling for a “Return to Normalcy”:



“America’s present need is not heroics, but healing; not nostrums, but normalcy; not revolution, but restoration; not agitation, but adjustment; not surgery, but serenity; not the dramatic, but the dispassionate; not experiment, but equipoise; not submergence in internationality, but sustainment in triumphant nationality.”


Ohio Senator Warren G. Harding’s promise of a boring four years delivered a landslide victory from an exhausted electorate. After dying in office he was replaced by our dullest president, Calvin Coolidge, who was succeeded by a third steady hand, Herbert Hoover.


In many ways Walker is the heir to Silent Cal; a leader focused on concrete results with minimal rhetoric and even less drama. He spent his time as a county executive and governor methodically rolling back the worst excesses of government as the world flailed around him. The unwashed progressives in Madison ranted and raved, but Walker remained the eye of the storm. Unions threatened his family, judges harassed his friends, and MSNBC’s Ed Schultz held a year-long St. Vitus’ dance, while the governor stretched in his church pew, dreaming about hot ham.

...
But Walker appeals to an exhaustion with politics in general. Like most small-government enthusiasts, I don’t want to think about Washington, D.C. every minute of every day. My ideal politician is someone I only hear about at election time and maybe in January when he submits his State of the Union address in writing. I would much rather focus my time on family, business, and art, than waste Christmas Eve watching C-SPAN’s live congressional feed. I long for the days when supermarket magazine racks featured celebrity weight loss tips instead of FLOTUS lecturing me about kale.


If we’re frustrated with politics now, we’ll desperate for relief by November 2016. If Scott Walker is able to capitalize on that mood — starting with a definition of what “normal” even means anymore — the White House chef might need to stock up on hot ham and rolls.

gabosaurus
08-11-2015, 10:08 PM
Nope. No pretending. Like her or not, you'll vote for her.

And waste of space, there's nothing Marxist about me and nothing normal about you.

nd when you learn what "liberal" really means, get back to me. I'd as soon live in a cabin in the hill, grow my own veggies and hunt my own food and not give a damn what you or anyone else is doing. But we apparently can't keep YOUR leftwing, marxist government out of our asses and wallets.

So you want to try that one again?

If given a choice of Hillary against Trump, Cruz, Walker or some other ultra-right wing nut job, I would vote for her. I'd hold my nose while doing it, but I would.
And when you learn what "right wing nut job" really means, get back to me. If you cabin in the hill has internet service, that is.

SassyLady
08-11-2015, 10:55 PM
If given a choice of Hillary against Trump, Cruz, Walker or some other ultra-right wing nut job, I would vote for her. I'd hold my nose while doing it, but I would.
And when you learn what "right wing nut job" really means, get back to me. If you cabin in the hill has internet service, that is.


https://franque23.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/ctl6403901b_0.jpg

SassyLady
08-13-2015, 10:27 PM
Gabby, if Hillary drops out, who will you vote for?

Perianne
08-13-2015, 10:30 PM
Gabby, if Hillary drops out, who will you vote for?

I can't answer for Gabby, but I bet she will vote for Trump. He's her kind of guy.

Kathianne
08-18-2015, 04:50 AM
Standing up to unions, "I am not intimidated..."

http://legalinsurrection.com/2015/08/scott-walker-confronts-union-protesters-in-iowa/


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Posted by Kemberlee Kaye (http://legalinsurrection.com/author/kemberlee-kaye/) Monday, August 17, 2015 at 11:45am

Speaking on the soap box at the Iowa State Fair Monday morning, Governor Scott Walker was welcomed by an all too familiar crowd — union hecklers.


Rather than ignoring the front row rabble-rousers, Governor Walker confronted them directly.


“I am not intimidated by you, sir, or anyone else out there. I will fight for the American people over, and over, and over, again. You want someone who’s tested? I’m right here. You can see it. This is what happened in Wisconsin. We will not back down. We will do what is necessary to defend the American people going forward,” said Walker...

Perianne
08-18-2015, 04:59 AM
I like Scott Walker. A conservative friend at work decided to start randomly eliminating potential GOP candidates. She eliminated Rand Paul, Chris Christie, and Scott Walker. I think she disliked the way Paul and Christie fussed at each other during the debate. And she found Walker dull.

I advised her to rethink eliminating Walker. Oh, what would my friends do without me around to tell them how to think!!! lol

Gunny
08-18-2015, 05:19 AM
Some of us don't like Clinton any more than you do. You just enjoy pretending that we all like her.

And you are more of a Marxist than I am. And a lot less normal than I am. :cool:

Actually I have a hard enough time pretending y'all have brains since you sit around and let that Chicago Mob of the 20s you call the Democratic party violate any damned law they want. You sit around holding right accountable for every burp, but don't hold your accountable for felonies.

I don't like Hillary because she's a criminal y'all have let slide since Whitewater and probably further back than that. 30 years of ignoring her shyster lawyer BS.

Difference between me and you is ... you'll vote for her anyway. I'm voting against her.

Gunny
08-18-2015, 05:22 AM
I like Scott Walker. A conservative friend at work decided to start randomly eliminating potential GOP candidates. She eliminated Rand Paul, Chris Christie, and Scott Walker. I think she disliked the way Paul and Christie fussed at each other during the debate. And she found Walker dull.

I advised her to rethink eliminating Walker. Oh, what would my friends do without me around to tell them how to think!!! lol

I like Walker too. Probably one of if not the best candidate. He looks awkward on TV though and THAT is what is hurting him.

Kathianne
08-18-2015, 05:23 AM
I like Walker too. Probably one of if not the best candidate. He looks awkward on TV though and THAT is what is hurting him.

Early days. Sometimes 'boring but effective' is just what will be chosen.

Perianne
08-18-2015, 05:27 AM
Early days. Sometimes 'boring but effective' is just what will be chosen.

I told my fried that if I were to bet, I would bet on him being the nominee. There is something neat about his dullness (AND the way he stood up to the unions).

Gunny
08-18-2015, 05:40 AM
I told my fried that if I were to bet, I would bet on him being the nominee. There is something neat about his dullness (AND the way he stood up to the unions).

I wouldn't take that bet. In 1960, Nixon was the more qualified person to be President and one of the biggest reasons he lost is because he looked like someone was putting thumbscrews to him on TV. Kennedy on the other hand used it to his advantage. He was completely relaxed and comfortable.

And the outcome of the story was Watergate. Nixon never trusted the media again and was the first President to openly go against them and they made him pay for it. Hillary's running down that same road. She's just not smart enough to get it, and not repeat history.

Obama's a rock star for his media appeal. He's been a worthless, unconstitutional tyrant and a liar from Day One.

Don't underestimate the power of presentation. Look at Trump. He'd make a better Dem than a Republican. But he's wowing the crowd and they're buying it. Got his own helicopter and his own money, a big mouth with nothing of substance coming out, and apparently a collection of Elmer Fudd baseball caps.

Perianne
08-18-2015, 06:12 AM
I wouldn't take that bet. In 1960, Nixon was the more qualified person to be President and one of the biggest reasons he lost is because he looked like someone was putting thumbscrews to him on TV. Kennedy on the other hand used it to his advantage. He was completely relaxed and comfortable.

And the outcome of the story was Watergate. Nixon never trusted the media again and was the first President to openly go against them and they made him pay for it. Hillary's running down that same road. She's just not smart enough to get it, and not repeat history.

Obama's a rock star for his media appeal. He's been a worthless, unconstitutional tyrant and a liar from Day One.

Don't underestimate the power of presentation. Look at Trump. He'd make a better Dem than a Republican. But he's wowing the crowd and they're buying it. Got his own helicopter and his own money, a big mouth with nothing of substance coming out, and apparently a collection of Elmer Fudd baseball caps.

Lol. Gunny you are very funny sometimes. :)

Kathianne
08-18-2015, 06:22 AM
Going after McConnell:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/scott-walker-to-blast-mitch-mcconnell-121463.html?hp=l2_4


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“Republican leaders in Washington told us during the campaign last year that we needed a Republican Senate to repeal Obamacare,” the Wisconsin governor will say, according to excerpts of his remarks released by the campaign. “Well, Republicans have been in charge of both houses of Congress since January and there still isn’t a bill on the president’s desk to repeal Obamacare.”


Walker will say that he’s had to take on the establishment in his party before and that he told GOP lawmakers in Wisconsin, “It was put up or shut up time. If we didn’t do what we said we’d do, the voters would have every right to throw us out.”


“And just like I did in my own state, I am willing to take on anyone – including members of my own party – to get the job done,” he will say.

Walker seemed to be expanding on comments he had made earlier Monday to conservative radio host Glenn Beck.

The Wisconsin governor said he agreed with Beck’s complaint that there were people in the GOP – including McConnell – who were “part of the problem.”


“I hear it all the time and I share that sentiment,” Walker said. “We were told if Republicans got the majority in the United States Senate, there would be a bill on the president’s desk to repeal Obamacare.

It is August. Where is that bill? Where was that vote?”


He also criticized Washington Republicans for failing to stop President Obama’s executive actions on immigration.


“This is where the frustration is,” he said. “This is why non-elected candidates are surging in the polls.”

Perianne
08-18-2015, 06:24 AM
Kathianne, you are the only person I know who reads more politics than I do. I appreciate it.

Gunny
08-18-2015, 06:47 AM
Going after McConnell:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/scott-walker-to-blast-mitch-mcconnell-121463.html?hp=l2_4

McConnell needs to grow a spine. Just a leftover from the "Contract with America".

NightTrain
08-18-2015, 07:53 AM
Agree with Gunny about Walker's likability on TV.. he really needs to work on that shortcoming, and pronto. Being in the international spotlight would be intimidating, I suppose... but the clock is ticking and he'd better get past it.


I have a lot of family in Wisconsin, and heard a great deal about how things were going when he turned around Wisconsin. It was in a sorry state when he was elected, and he went toe-to-toe with the hotbed of liberalism in Madison and won. Then he handily survived a recall election, and went from a huge deficit to running a surplus in short order.

It drove the liberals insane with rage, and quite literally there were mobs running the streets over it. At one point, a bunch of legislators fled the State to avoid defeat in a vote they knew they'd lose, so Walker removed a couple of items from the balanced budget bill allowing a simple majority vote which won.

He's a fighter, but he's not coming off as one.


He spent his time as a county executive and governor methodically rolling back the worst excesses of government as the world flailed around him. The unwashed progressives in Madison ranted and raved, but Walker remained the eye of the storm. Unions threatened his family, judges harassed his friends, and MSNBC’s Ed Schultz held a year-long St. Vitus’ dance, while the governor stretched in his church pew, dreaming about hot ham.

Truth!


IMO, if anyone can fight and win the usual liberal idiots, it's him. He's already done it and proven that he can turn around an economy in short order despite howling mobs of progressives utilizing every dirty trick (along with a few new ones) in the book.

More importantly, he can win elections by appealing to common sense and logic in a electoral pool filled with entrenched progressives, and that's certainly the makeup of America right now.

tailfins
08-18-2015, 08:19 AM
Some of us don't like Clinton any more than you do. You just enjoy pretending that we all like her.

And you are more of a Marxist than I am. And a lot less normal than I am. :cool:

Normal people have meetings; abnormal people get stuff done.

Gunny
08-18-2015, 08:21 AM
Normal people have meetings; abnormal people get stuff done.

Are you related to noir? That's a non-brilliant statement if ever there was one.

Kathianne
08-19-2015, 04:29 AM
alternative to Obamacare:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/08/18/walker_takes_on_obamacare_--_and_his_own_party_127809.html


Walker Takes On Obamacare -- and His Own PartyBy Caitlin Huey-Burns (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/authors/caitlin_huey-burns/) - August 18, 2015

With the rise of political outsiders (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/08/13/americas_crush_on_political_outsiders_summer_fling _or_real_deal_127768.html) pushing him down in the polls and potentially blocking his path to the Republican presidential nomination, Scott Walker is on a mission to reclaim his mojo.


And that involves taking aim at his own party -- namely, Republicans in Congress.

...

“Republican leaders in Washington told us during the campaign last year that we needed a Republican Senate to repeal Obamacare,” Walker said. “Well, Republicans have been in charge of both houses of Congress since January and there still isn’t a bill on the president’s desk to repeal Obamacare.”


Walker’s plan includes Republican-favored provisions such as lowering premiums by 25 percent; providing refundable tax credits, based on age instead of income, to be used to purchase insurance by those who don’t have coverage through their employer; expanding health savings accounts; allowing consumers to purchase insurance across state lines; and providing federal funds to states to help cover pre-existing conditions. Walker insisted that his proposal, called the Day One Patient Freedom Plan, will be cost-neutral because it makes changes to the tax code.

...

Perianne
08-19-2015, 05:06 AM
I listened to Scott Walker last night on C-SPAN. I have no doubt he would be a good president. But my gosh, he has the personality of an accountant.

Abbey Marie
08-19-2015, 10:19 AM
Agree with Gunny about Walker's likability on TV.. he really needs to work on that shortcoming, and pronto. Being in the international spotlight would be intimidating, I suppose... but the clock is ticking and he'd better get past it.


I have a lot of family in Wisconsin, and heard a great deal about how things were going when he turned around Wisconsin. It was in a sorry state when he was elected, and he went toe-to-toe with the hotbed of liberalism in Madison and won. Then he handily survived a recall election, and went from a huge deficit to running a surplus in short order.

It drove the liberals insane with rage, and quite literally there were mobs running the streets over it. At one point, a bunch of legislators fled the State to avoid defeat in a vote they knew they'd lose, so Walker removed a couple of items from the balanced budget bill allowing a simple majority vote which won.

He's a fighter, but he's not coming off as one.



[/I][/FONT][/COLOR]Truth!


IMO, if anyone can fight and win the usual liberal idiots, it's him. He's already done it and proven that he can turn around an economy in short order despite howling mobs of progressives utilizing every dirty trick (along with a few new ones) in the book.

More importantly, he can win elections by appealing to common sense and logic in a electoral pool filled with entrenched progressives, and that's certainly the makeup of America right now.

Reading the two bolded statements together- a great example of why liberals are ruining this country.

Gunny
08-19-2015, 01:27 PM
Agree with Gunny about Walker's likability on TV.. he really needs to work on that shortcoming, and pronto. Being in the international spotlight would be intimidating, I suppose... but the clock is ticking and he'd better get past it.


I have a lot of family in Wisconsin, and heard a great deal about how things were going when he turned around Wisconsin. It was in a sorry state when he was elected, and he went toe-to-toe with the hotbed of liberalism in Madison and won. Then he handily survived a recall election, and went from a huge deficit to running a surplus in short order.

It drove the liberals insane with rage, and quite literally there were mobs running the streets over it. At one point, a bunch of legislators fled the State to avoid defeat in a vote they knew they'd lose, so Walker removed a couple of items from the balanced budget bill allowing a simple majority vote which won.

He's a fighter, but he's not coming off as one.



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IMO, if anyone can fight and win the usual liberal idiots, it's him. He's already done it and proven that he can turn around an economy in short order despite howling mobs of progressives utilizing every dirty trick (along with a few new ones) in the book.

More importantly, he can win elections by appealing to common sense and logic in a electoral pool filled with entrenched progressives, and that's certainly the makeup of America right now.

They pulled that crap on Rick Perry too. The Dems all ran to a motel in Oklahoma to avoid an ass-whipping. Cowards always leave that yellow spine trail so they're easy to track. :)

Kathianne
08-24-2015, 08:05 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/23/politics/scott-walker-donald-trump-birthright-citizenship-2016/index.html

Keep changing positions.

Try to sound like the front runner, then backing off.

NightTrain
08-24-2015, 08:36 AM
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/23/politics/scott-walker-donald-trump-birthright-citizenship-2016/index.html

Keep changing positions.

Try to sound like the front runner, then backing off.


You are 100% correct.

He should have been honest and simply said he didn't know and would need to consider it further before making up his mind. I would respect that.

Saying 'Yes', then 'No', then 'Maybe' screams of a typical politician afraid to make a stand and stick with it.

I don't want a typical politician. I want an exceptional leader, one we're in desperate need of.

I'm sure he's got a huge staff gauging poll numbers hour-by-hour and co-relating them to his announced stances, but ultimately it's his decision to go with recommendations to pander to a specific group - or at least not piss off a specific group - and waffling like that will sink his ship in a hurry.

This is a spread of torpedoes in the water, and you can bet the farm that he's going to get asked about this in the next debate, along with cheap shots from the competition.

He's done for. Dammit.

Kathianne
08-24-2015, 08:38 AM
You are 100% correct.

He should have been honest and simply said he didn't know and would need to consider it further before making up his mind. I would respect that.

Saying 'Yes', then 'No', then 'Maybe' screams of a typical politician afraid to make a stand and stick with it.

I don't want a typical politician. I want an exceptional leader, one we're in desperate need of.

I'm sure he's got a huge staff gauging poll numbers hour-by-hour and co-relating them to his announced stances, but ultimately it's his decision to go with recommendations to pander to a specific group - or at least not piss off a specific group - and waffling like that will sink his ship in a hurry.

This is a spread of torpedoes in the water, and you can bet the farm that he's going to get asked about this in the next debate, along with cheap shots from the competition.

He's done for. Dammit.

It's still early and there's lots of time. He does need to find where HE stands and stick with it. He's smart, but there's lots of smart people in this. I do like he has a good record in a purple to blue state. He's way ahead in WI which bodes well. Still, he seems lost right now on the national platform, especially in this very strange environment.

Black Diamond
08-24-2015, 08:52 AM
You are 100% correct.

He should have been honest and simply said he didn't know and would need to consider it further before making up his mind. I would respect that.

Saying 'Yes', then 'No', then 'Maybe' screams of a typical politician afraid to make a stand and stick with it.

I don't want a typical politician. I want an exceptional leader, one we're in desperate need of.

I'm sure he's got a huge staff gauging poll numbers hour-by-hour and co-relating them to his announced stances, but ultimately it's his decision to go with recommendations to pander to a specific group - or at least not piss off a specific group - and waffling like that will sink his ship in a hurry.

This is a spread of torpedoes in the water, and you can bet the farm that he's going to get asked about this in the next debate, along with cheap shots from the competition.

He's done for. Dammit.
2020, 2024..

Kathianne
08-26-2015, 09:03 AM
While from Slate, the analysis is pretty good:

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/08/donald_trump_is_killing_scott_walker_s_presidentia l_campaign.html


Tim Pawlenty 2.0?
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Scott Walker’s presidential campaign is flailing, and it’s not just because of Trump.By Jamelle Bouie (http://www.slate.com/authors.jamelle_bouie.html)

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None of this means Walker is doomed. If he improves in debates, learns to answer questions, begins to capitalize on missteps from his opponents, and otherwise boosts his performance, he could soar. The raw material is still there. And hewouldn’t be the first presidential candidate (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_McCain_presidential_campaign,_2008) to go from a listless start to a strong and successful finish.



But right now Walker looks like he’s on the wane. He’s not quite Tim Pawlenty—the doomed Minnesota governor who quit the 2012 Republican primary after poor showings in polls and onstage—but he’s coming uncomfortably close.