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Perianne
08-18-2015, 08:21 PM
Which of the major candidates will drop out first? By "major" I mean:

Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton on the Dems side.

Trump, Walker, Bush, Christie, Fiorina, Carson, Cruz, Huckabee, Kasich, Jindal, Paul, Santorum, or Rubio on the Repubs side.

Abbey Marie
08-18-2015, 09:22 PM
Which of the major candidates will drop out first? By "major" I mean:

Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton on the Dems side.

Trump, Walker, Bush, Christie, Fiorina, Carson, Cruz, Huckabee, Kasich, Jindal, Paul, Santorum, or Rubio on the Repubs side.

I'd guess Kasich or Jindal

Gunny
08-18-2015, 09:35 PM
Which of the major candidates will drop out first? By "major" I mean:

Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton on the Dems side.

Trump, Walker, Bush, Christie, Fiorina, Carson, Cruz, Huckabee, Kasich, Jindal, Paul, Santorum, or Rubio on the Repubs side.

Hillary won't drop out and she's got the Clinton machine to back her.

Jindal and Santorum will go first is my best guess. Huckabee to follow. Their day is over. Nobody wants 90s Republicans anymore.

LongTermGuy
08-18-2015, 10:03 PM
Perry...heard him speaking today...even though he ran out of money...he still feels he is in it..

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Gunny
08-18-2015, 10:24 PM
Perry...heard him speaking today...even though he ran out of money...he still feels he is in it..

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I doubt he's out of money. Guess you never seen his house. He's just cutting bait. He's actually one of the best candidates. He's not PC, and he doesn't care what the media thinks. He really sucks on TV.

Which begs the question .... when did being a media darling make someone a good candidate? I just feel bad he comes off like a goof on the tube. But is that REALLY how we choose candidates now? His ability to govern outshines everyone else's. But he's not media friendly so he sucks?

Some people need to re-think what they aren't thinking. Clinton and Obama were media stars. Look what we got out of THAT deal.

Good time for a MLK Jr quote: "I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

There is no content to ANY front runner.

Abbey Marie
08-18-2015, 10:27 PM
I doubt he's out of money. Guess you never seen his house. He's just cutting bait. He's actually one of the best candidates. He's not PC, and he doesn't care what the media thinks. He really sucks on TV.

Which begs the question .... when did being a media darling make someone a good candidate? I just feel bad he comes off like a goof on the tube. But is that REALLY how we choose candidates now? His ability to govern outshines everyone else's. But he's not media friendly so he sucks?

Some people need to re-think what they aren't thinking. Clinton and Obama were media stars. Look what we got out of THAT deal.

Good time for a MLK Jr quote: "I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

There is no content to ANY front runner.

This populace only wants things that look and sound pretty. It's been form over substance for a long time now. And yes, it sucks.

Russ
08-18-2015, 10:46 PM
I have to go with Rick Perry as the first to drop out, since he's the one that's out of money.

gabosaurus
08-18-2015, 11:21 PM
By the time of the Iowa primary next winter, I see Bush, Rubio and Cruz as the only serious GOP candidates remaining.
Trump will have imploded by then and started a third party run.

Kathianne
08-19-2015, 12:43 AM
I'm with Perry dropping out, perhaps Jindal. Both have too much commonsense I hope, to waste money. They both have a lot to accomplish in the future and with the way this cycle is working, I don't see them able to overcome the crowd to get their messages out.

Gunny
08-19-2015, 02:32 AM
I'm with Perry dropping out, perhaps Jindal. Both have too much commonsense I hope, to waste money. They both have a lot to accomplish in the future and with the way this cycle is working, I don't see them able to overcome the crowd to get their messages out.

I'm not sure Perry should drop out. He was a hell of a governor.

You know why he won't the GOP vote? Because he's conservative. How sad a statement is THAT?

Kathianne
08-19-2015, 02:36 AM
I'm not sure Perry should drop out. He was a hell of a governor.

You know why he won't the GOP vote? Because he's conservative. How sad a statement is THAT?

I'm not saying you're wrong, not by a long shot. I'm saying he's at the point where he has no traction and has to decide if he has the assets in this environment to ride out for another 6 months waiting for others to do so? What are his chances to win, if he chooses to spend those assets? If he rides it out and doesn't rise significantly, what are his chances in the future?

Russ
08-19-2015, 08:44 PM
I'm not sure Perry should drop out. He was a hell of a governor.

You know why he won't the GOP vote? Because he's conservative. How sad a statement is THAT?


Yep, he was a hell of a Governor, but his campaign coffers have flat-lined.

Perianne
08-19-2015, 08:53 PM
For whatever reason, I see Fiorina hanging in until the end. Maybe she is jockeying for a position in the next government, or something. And she is wealthy.

Kathianne
08-25-2015, 12:07 PM
I'm not saying you're wrong, not by a long shot. I'm saying he's at the point where he has no traction and has to decide if he has the assets in this environment to ride out for another 6 months waiting for others to do so? What are his chances to win, if he chooses to spend those assets? If he rides it out and doesn't rise significantly, what are his chances in the future?

another sign:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/251851-rick-perrys-iowa-chairman-quits


August 24, 2015, 06:41 pmRick Perry's Iowa chairman quits
By Bradford Richardson

Former Gov. Rick Perry's (Texas) Iowa chairman is stepping down, delivering another blow to the GOP contender's 2016 presidential bid.


Sam Clovis cited the campaign's financial struggles, noting that he left in part because he is no longer being paid, The Associated Press first reported.


“I feel bad for the campaign and I feel bad for Governor Perry because I think he’s a marvelous human being, he’s a great man and it was my honor to be a part of this, but it was just time to move on,” Clovis later told The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/24/rick-perrys-iowa-chairman-quits-time-to-move-on/).

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Perianne
08-25-2015, 12:08 PM
another sign:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/251851-rick-perrys-iowa-chairman-quits

I think Perry had his chance.... and he blew it.

bripat9643
08-25-2015, 06:03 PM
Which of the major candidates will drop out first? By "major" I mean:

Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton on the Dems side.

Trump, Walker, Bush, Christie, Fiorina, Carson, Cruz, Huckabee, Kasich, Jindal, Paul, Santorum, or Rubio on the Repubs side.

Christie

Perianne
08-25-2015, 06:08 PM
Christie

I don't know. I kinda see Christie in it for a while.

BTW, Welcome bripat9643!

OAK
08-25-2015, 06:15 PM
I doubt he's out of money. Guess you never seen his house. He's just cutting bait. He's actually one of the best candidates. He's not PC, and he doesn't care what the media thinks. He really sucks on TV.

Which begs the question .... when did being a media darling make someone a good candidate? I just feel bad he comes off like a goof on the tube. But is that REALLY how we choose candidates now? His ability to govern outshines everyone else's. But he's not media friendly so he sucks?

Some people need to re-think what they aren't thinking. Clinton and Obama were media stars. Look what we got out of THAT deal.

Good time for a MLK Jr quote: "I look to a day when people will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."

There is no content to ANY front runner.Kennedy-Nixon televised debate.

bripat9643
08-25-2015, 06:23 PM
I don't know. I kinda see Christie in it for a while.

BTW, Welcome bripat9643!

He's out of money.

Kathianne
08-26-2015, 07:56 AM
another sign:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/251851-rick-perrys-iowa-chairman-quits

and he's signed with Trump:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/08/rick-perry-adviser-joins-donald-trump-2016-campaign-121742.html


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Sam Clovis, the prominent conservative Iowa operative who departed Rick Perry’s campaign this week, is heading to Donald Trump’s camp to serve as his national co-chairman and policy adviser.


“I had an opportunity to get to know Mr. Trump over the past several months,” Clovis said in an interview. “I have some close friends working on the campaign. It’s a great opportunity for me to effect change in Washington, and I think Mr. Trump is exactly the person to do that.”

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Kathianne
08-29-2015, 06:56 AM
http://www3.atr.rollcall.com/lindsey-graham-drowning-in-weak-polling/


Drowning in Weak Polling, How Long Can Lindsey Graham Stay in 2016 Race? By Matthew Fleming (http://atr.rollcall.com/author/matthewflemingcqrollcall-com/)Posted at 5 a.m. today

Sen. Lindsey Graham (http://www.rollcall.com/members/438.html)’s presidential campaign has had a tough time getting traction so far, and a new Quinnipiac University poll keeps him in the conversation about who might be the first of the 17 Republican presidential candidates (http://atr.rollcall.com/2016-presidential-candidates-profiles/) to fold.
But do his low poll numbers suggest the end is near?


The poll (http://www.quinnipiac.edu/images/polling/us/us08272015_Ueg38d.pdf) released Thursday showed nothing new: The South Carolina Republican has been unable to differentiate himself from other candidates in any way. But the national poll — which says that 13 percent of Republican or leans-Republican voters said they’d never vote for him and zero percent said they would vote for him — shows that things are not improving.


Even “someone else” polled at 1 percent (cue the joke about how hard it would be to find someone else who isn’t already in the race). The highest Graham polled nationally was at 2 percent, according to Real Clear Politics.


In Graham’s home state, he’s polling at 5 percent (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/sc/south_carolina_republican_presidential_primary-4151.html), and in New Hampshire, where he hoped to get a bump from the prior success of his buddy, Sen. John McCain (http://www.rollcall.com/members/26.html), R-Ariz., Graham is polling only at 1 percent (http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_republican_presidential_primary-3350.html), according to Real Clear Politics averages.

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NightTrain
08-29-2015, 07:00 AM
Yikes. Polling at 5% in his own home State is awfully dismal.

It's still early, but I can't see any way to turn that around... unless he single handedly rescues a bus full of Nuns, Orphans and Kittens teetering on the edge of a cliff.

Kathianne
09-09-2015, 10:02 AM
http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/09/08/rick-perry-south-carolina/


It appears former Texas governor Rick Perry’s GOP presidential campaign is taking another hit — this time in South Carolina.

CNN reported Tuesday (http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/08/politics/rick-perry-south-carolina-headquarters-closed/index.html) that Perry’s South Carolina campaign headquarters had been shuttered, saying the move was confirmed by Perry’s state chairman, Katon Dawson.


The Perry campaign had been using a Columbia, S.C., building provided by Dawson as part of his retainer fee, according to CNN. But the campaign was now losing the property to a “hot new client” found by a realtor, CNN says, quoting Dawson.


Suffice it to say, it’s been a rough few weeks for Perry, who also sought the 2012 GOP nomination.

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SassyLady
09-11-2015, 02:47 AM
Huckabee, Kasich, Jindal, Santorum