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Russ
08-30-2015, 09:14 PM
Apparently, Obama is renaming Mt McKinley to Denali before he travels to Alaska.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/31/us/mount-mckinley-will-be-renamed-denali.html?_r=0

NT, I'd be interested to know your opinion...

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-30-2015, 09:29 PM
Apparently, Obama is renaming Mt McKinley to Denali before he travels to Alaska.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/31/us/mount-mckinley-will-be-renamed-denali.html?_r=0

NT, I'd be interested to know your opinion...

When are we to be rid of that stinking vermin?
That arrogant bastard and lying sack of shat..
Could he possibly ever be more conceited and arrogant?
I would dearly love to be able to spit in his face.. as he so richly deserves it IMHO --Tyr

Russ
08-30-2015, 09:35 PM
When are we to be rid of that stinking vermin?
That arrogant bastard and lying sack of shat..
Could he possibly ever be more conceited and arrogant?
I would dearly love to be able to spit in his face.. as he so richly deserves it IMHO --Tyr

Ha! I love that enthusiasm! Over a year until someone else gets elected, unfortunately, and 2 months after that before Obama 'pardons' every Dem in jail and then finally takes the limo to the airport. I can't wait.

hjmick
08-30-2015, 09:42 PM
When are we to be rid of that stinking vermin?
That arrogant bastard and lying sack of shat..
Could he possibly ever be more conceited and arrogant?
I would dearly love to be able to spit in his face.. as he so richly deserves it IMHO --Tyr


There has been a bipartisan effort in Alaska to change the name, in fact a Republican introduced the bill in congress. The problem has been Ohio. Their representatives have been the fly in the ointment blocking the effort because McKinley was from, well, Ohio. This has little to do with Obama except that he may get the name changed outside the normal channels.


This may be the one instance where I have no problem with that process...

NightTrain
08-30-2015, 10:55 PM
Apparently, Obama is renaming Mt McKinley to Denali before he travels to Alaska.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/31/us/mount-mckinley-will-be-renamed-denali.html?_r=0

NT, I'd be interested to know your opinion...


We call it Denali and have for a long time... it's really not an issue. It's still occasionally called McKinley here and there, but I only do it when talking about it to people from the lower 48 because no one down there knows Denali = Mt. McKinley. I used to be against the whole thing, but I've changed my mind over the last decade or two. It's natural now. And, really, McKinley had nothing to do with the discovery - he had a Republican frontiersman / explorer fan back in the day and that's how that came about.

It's never referred to as 'Mt. Denali', or Denali Mtn or Denali Peak - it's just Denali. Kind of different.

I don't know why he decided to intrude on the matter, but it is what it is - it was going to happen anyway. Classic example of a politician running like hell to get ahead of a successful movement to claim responsibility. I guess anything to add to his 'legacy'! lol



On the downside, there's more than a few Air Charter outfits in Talkeetna with the name 'McKinley' in their name, so they're going to have to change so the tourists know what they're all about.

revelarts
08-30-2015, 10:57 PM
There has been a bipartisan effort in Alaska to change the name, in fact a Republican introduced the bill in congress. The problem has been Ohio. Their representatives have been the fly in the ointment blocking the effort because McKinley was from, well, Ohio. This has little to do with Obama except that he may get the name changed outside the normal channels.


This may be the one instance where I have no problem with that process...

Seems like a decent thing to do. Seems a very small gesture.
Not sure if it's within his presidential powers though. If so fine if not chalk up to another unconstitutional act for O.

But I'm more bothered by his "climate change" activity in Alaska. that crap just won't die.

NightTrain
08-30-2015, 10:59 PM
But I'm more bothered by his "climate change" activity in Alaska. that crap just won't die.


Yeah, we're all dreading the real reason he's up here.

It won't be good for us.

Russ
08-30-2015, 11:41 PM
We call it Denali and have for a long time... it's really not an issue. It's still occasionally called McKinley here and there, but I only do it when talking about it to people from the lower 48 because no one down there knows Denali = Mt. McKinley. I used to be against the whole thing, but I've changed my mind over the last decade or two. It's natural now. And, really, McKinley had nothing to do with the discovery - he had a Republican frontiersman / explorer fan back in the day and that's how that came about.

It's never referred to as 'Mt. Denali', or Denali Mtn or Denali Peak - it's just Denali. Kind of different.

I don't know why he decided to intrude on the matter, but it is what it is - it was going to happen anyway. Classic example of a politician running like hell to get ahead of a successful movement to claim responsibility. I guess anything to add to his 'legacy'! lol



On the downside, there's more than a few Air Charter outfits in Talkeetna with the name 'McKinley' in their name, so they're going to have to change so the tourists know what they're all about.

Well, my first response was to be against it, basically because Obama is proposing it, but I'm actually changing my mind and saying it's the right thing to do. In Obama's case, it's for the wrong reasons, but it is at least the right thing to do.

gabosaurus
08-31-2015, 12:30 AM
Well, my first response was to be against it, basically because Obama is proposing it, but I'm actually changing my mind and saying it's the right thing to do. In Obama's case, it's for the wrong reasons, but it is at least the right thing to do.

On this board, Obama never does the right thing. Even when it is the right thing, it's actually not. :rolleyes:

If Obama really wanted to do something useful, he would give Alaska to Canada. :cool:

NightTrain
08-31-2015, 01:10 AM
Well, my first response was to be against it, basically because Obama is proposing it, but I'm actually changing my mind and saying it's the right thing to do. In Obama's case, it's for the wrong reasons, but it is at least the right thing to do.


Yeah, don't get me wrong... none of us want him to meddle in it. It is arrogance of the highest order to land in the State that hates you the most and change the name of the highest mountain in North America!

But we've got bigger fish to fry, and this was going to happen anyway. He's still a shithead. :laugh:

Jeff
08-31-2015, 06:05 AM
Ha! I love that enthusiasm! Over a year until someone else gets elected, unfortunately, and 2 months after that before Obama 'pardons' every Dem and black man in jail and then finally takes the limo to the airport. I can't wait.

:lol: Fixed it for ya :lol:

So the liar in charge will be staying in DC so his kids can finish school there, you know he wouldn't want his kids to go the a public school in Chicago, to many killing and no guns allowed, :laugh: where his kids go now they have armed guards , so it is just his kids that should be protected.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-31-2015, 08:44 AM
:lol: Fixed it for ya :lol:

So the liar in charge will be staying in DC so his kids can finish school there, you know he wouldn't want his kids to go the a public school in Chicago, to many killing and no guns allowed, :laugh: where his kids go now they have armed guards , so it is just his kids that should be protected.

Yes, perhaps he thinks that they might spawn another messiah like him! :cuckoo::puke3:

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
08-31-2015, 08:47 AM
Well, my first response was to be against it, basically because Obama is proposing it, but I'm actually changing my mind and saying it's the right thing to do. In Obama's case, it's for the wrong reasons, but it is at least the right thing to do.
My friend, there is VALID reason why our FIRST response to anything that worm wants to do is NO!
And that is because over 95% of the time --hell no- is the right response to give. -Tyr

Bilgerat
08-31-2015, 09:16 AM
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DragonStryk72
08-31-2015, 02:21 PM
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The republicans are the ones who have been pushing for this move in the state, with both sides of the aisle in support of the name-change. Apparently, some fanboy named it McKinley, instead Denali, which it's been named for a millenia before that.

Seeing it has popular support, had no actual history attached it, and was apparently the result of rampant fanboyism, gonna say McKinley was the Symbolism over substance here.

Perianne
08-31-2015, 02:31 PM
I would be all for him renaming it Mount Perianne! I would love to have a mountain named after me.

Bilgerat
08-31-2015, 04:01 PM
Apparently, some fanboy named it McKinley, instead Denali, which it's been named for a millenia before that.

88 years years ago

Yeah, that's about right.

I mean, look at the Boulder (oops, Hoover) dam.

But no worries, I'm certain it'll be changed again

Bilgerat
08-31-2015, 04:02 PM
I would be all for him renaming it Mount Perianne! I would love to have a mountain named after me.

Perhaps you might consider Mountain?

The shortened version of that word has other possibilities (lol) :laugh2:

Perianne
08-31-2015, 04:07 PM
Perhaps you might consider Mountain?

The shortened version of that word has other possibilities (lol) :laugh2:

D'oh! You are right! lol

Gunny
08-31-2015, 04:10 PM
Apparently, Obama is renaming Mt McKinley to Denali before he travels to Alaska.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/31/us/mount-mckinley-will-be-renamed-denali.html?_r=0

NT, I'd be interested to know your opinion...

You got to be shitting me. WHo the fuck does this asshole think he is?

Denali is sanskrit, not Native American. It's Indian -- like from India Indians. It's a noun in its own right that means something --

He needs to be removed from office before he screws up as much crap as he can which is all he's trying to do at this point.

Bilgerat
08-31-2015, 04:51 PM
When the Russki's owned the place, they called it Bolshaya Gora.
It was briefly called Densmore's Mountain in the late 1880s and early 1890s The Koyukon Athabaskan people who inhabit the area around the mountain refer to the peak as Dinale or Denali. ​

Other tribes call it the following





<tbody>
Language
Indigenous Name for Denali


Dena'ina (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dena%27ina_language)
Dghelay Ka'a


Ahtna (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahtna_language)
Dghelaay Ce'e


Lower Tanana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Tanana_language)
Dinadhit


Koyukon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koyukon_language)
Deenaalee


Upper Kuskokwim (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Kuskokwim_language)
Denaze


Holikachuk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holikachuk_language)
Denadhe


Deg Xinag (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deg_Xinag)
Dengadhiy

</tbody>

Gunny
08-31-2015, 04:59 PM
When the Russki's owned the place, they called it Bolshaya Gora.
It was briefly called Densmore's Mountain in the late 1880s and early 1890s The Koyukon Athabaskan
people who inhabit the area around the mountain refer to the peak as Dinale or Denali. ​

Other tribes call it the following





<tbody>
Language
Indigenous Name for Denali


Dena'ina (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dena%27ina_language)
Dghelay Ka'a


Ahtna (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahtna_language)
Dghelaay Ce'e


Lower Tanana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Tanana_language)
Dinadhit


Koyukon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koyukon_language)
Deenaalee


Upper Kuskokwim (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upper_Kuskokwim_language)
Denaze


Holikachuk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holikachuk_language)
Denadhe


Deg Xinag (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deg_Xinag)
Dengadhiy

</tbody>


I'm sick of this renaming crap. I'm Southern and I fly a f-ing Confederate battle flag. Changing the Jefferson Jackson dinner's name is stupid. People owned slaves back then. Get over it. Or should we change all the names of the planets in our solar system because the Romans owned Christians as slaves? Oh that's right ... we don't count.

What the f-k possibly could McKinley have done to offend Obama? Get assassinated? Hell, I bet he did that on purpose.

Bilgerat
08-31-2015, 05:35 PM
http://bokbluster.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/150831-denali.jpg

Gunny
08-31-2015, 05:37 PM
http://bokbluster.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/150831-denali.jpg


Yeah. You know Marines fly that 53, right? Sorry dude. National emergency. CYA.

jimnyc
08-31-2015, 07:39 PM
Perhaps you might consider Mountain?

The shortened version of that word has other possibilities (lol) :laugh2:


D'oh! You are right! lol

I sat for a minute thinking of how to respond to this. Without getting into further trouble, I will just move along now! :beer: I kid, I kid. :thumb:

Gunny
08-31-2015, 07:41 PM
I sat for a minute thinking of how to respond to this. Without getting into further trouble, I will just move along now! :beer: I kid, I kid. :thumb:

You too, huh? I had to do a lot of backspacing.:laugh:

NightTrain
08-31-2015, 07:47 PM
You got to be shitting me. WHo the fuck does this asshole think he is?

Denali is sanskrit, not Native American. It's Indian -- like from India Indians. It's a noun in its own right that means something --

He needs to be removed from office before he screws up as much crap as he can which is all he's trying to do at this point.


No, it's Athabascan, Gunny. Sharon is half Athabascan / half Polish.

It means "The high one" in that language, which is pretty apt.

jimnyc
08-31-2015, 07:48 PM
You too, huh? I had to do a lot of backspacing.:laugh:

Yeah, I typed a few things, and pictured myself getting slapped in the face, and backspaced myself. :)

Wait till Jeff gets here, let him get slapped.

Gunny
08-31-2015, 08:02 PM
No, it's Athabascan, Gunny. Sharon is half Athabascan / half Polish.

It means "The high one" in that language, which is pretty apt.

SOunds like a Louis L'Amour book to me. Or wait, he wrote Sitka. Alistair McCLean wrote Athabasca.

Olivia
08-31-2015, 09:22 PM
I lived in Alaska. Alaskans have always called it Denali! Obama is a day late and a dollar short.

NightTrain
08-31-2015, 10:05 PM
I lived in Alaska. Alaskans have always called it Denali! Obama is a day late and a dollar short.


That's right, I forgot you lived in Anchor Point for a while. Nice little area.

Gunny
08-31-2015, 10:16 PM
I think we should name it Mt Nighttrain. Hell, at least you actually live there.

red state
09-01-2015, 12:02 AM
Mississippi (Tippah Co. Tishamingo Co. etc.) , Chicago, Minnesota, and the list goes on. NT....you are 100% spot on. This character needs to focus on other things that are positive and profitable for this Nation. UUUuummmmmmmm.....he could start with taking care of HIS own MT.
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NightTrain
09-01-2015, 12:16 AM
I guess we're all lucky he didn't name it Mt. Obama. :laugh:

red state
09-01-2015, 01:48 PM
I guess we're all lucky he didn't name it Mt. Obama. :laugh:

Yeah, he'll simply dynamite the four old, dead, racist white guys from Mt. Rushmore and replace them with ME, MYSELF & I ....with the fourth being Treyvon (the boy who'd look like B.O.'s son (if he could make boys that is).

On that thought: Who do you guys think will ever (or should ever) be a 5th President to grace Mt. Rushmore?

I say Reagan with Truman being a close alternative.

NightTrain
09-01-2015, 02:05 PM
Yeah, he'll simply dynamite the four old, dead, racist white guys from Mt. Rushmore and replace them with ME, MYSELF & I ....with the fourth being Treyvon (the boy who'd look like B.O.'s son (if he could make boys that is).

On that thought: Who do you guys think will ever (or should ever) be a 5th President to grace Mt. Rushmore?

I say Reagan with Truman being a close alternative.



Reagan for sure.


Or we could put McKinley there since he recently lost his mountain.... kind of a consolation prize.

It might mollify the enraged Boehner... too bad we can't get that kind of passion from him on stuff that matters. :smoke:

Russ
09-01-2015, 08:27 PM
Now that I think about it... can a President just change a name on his own? What's to stop an egomaniac like Obama from just naming every mountain "Mt. Obama"? Doesn't this have to go through Congress?

Rat
09-01-2015, 09:46 PM
Nice gesture by Obama to honor Alaskan Natives. This move something people of all political ideologies can celebrate.

Black Diamond
09-01-2015, 09:56 PM
I guess we're all lucky he didn't name it Mt. Obama. :laugh:

Be like Stalingrad.

red state
09-01-2015, 10:59 PM
Reagan for sure.


Or we could put McKinley there since he recently lost his mountain.... kind of a consolation prize.

It might mollify the enraged Boehner... too bad we can't get that kind of passion from him on stuff that matters. :smoke:


Yeah....like four Americans in Iran who could have easily been bargained for.

red state
09-01-2015, 11:00 PM
Now that I think about it... can a President just change a name on his own? What's to stop an egomaniac like Obama from just naming every mountain "Mt. Obama"? Doesn't this have to go through Congress?

He's done worse with his phone & pen......

Jeff
09-02-2015, 06:12 AM
Yeah, I typed a few things, and pictured myself getting slapped in the face, and backspaced myself. :)

Wait till Jeff gets here, let him get slapped.

A Nope not taking the bait. :laugh::laugh:

Bilgerat
09-02-2015, 07:32 AM
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