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jimnyc
09-28-2015, 01:01 PM
Too few Americans are working, too many jobs have been shipped overseas, and too many middle class families cannot make ends meet. This tax plan directly meets these challenges with four simple goals:



Tax relief for middle class Americans: In order to achieve the American dream, let people keep more money in their pockets and increase after-tax wages.
Simplify the tax code to reduce the headaches Americans face in preparing their taxes and let everyone keep more of their money.
Grow the American economy by discouraging corporate inversions, adding a huge number of new jobs, and making America globally competitive again.
Doesn’t add to our debt and deficit, which are already too large.



The Trump Tax Plan Achieves These Goals



If you are single and earn less than $25,000, or married and jointly earn less than $50,000, you will not owe any income tax. That removes nearly 75 million households – over 50% – from the income tax rolls. They get a new one page form to send the IRS saying, “I win,” those who would otherwise owe income taxes will save an average of nearly $1,000 each.
All other Americans will get a simpler tax code with four brackets – 0%, 10%, 20% and 25% – instead of the current seven. This new tax code eliminates the marriage penalty and the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II.
No business of any size, from a Fortune 500 to a mom and pop shop to a freelancer living job to job, will pay more than 15% of their business income in taxes. This lower rate makes corporate inversions unnecessary by making America’s tax rate one of the best in the world.
No family will have to pay the death tax. You earned and saved that money for your family, not the government. You paid taxes on it when you earned it.


The Trump Tax Plan Is Revenue Neutral

The Trump tax cuts are fully paid for by:



Reducing or eliminating most deductions and loopholes available to the very rich.
A one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas at a significantly discounted 10% tax rate, followed by an end to the deferral of taxes on corporate income earned abroad.
Reducing or eliminating corporate loopholes that cater to special interests, as well as deductions made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rate on corporations and business income. We will also phase in a reasonable cap on the deductibility of business interest expenses.


DETAILS OF DONALD J. TRUMP’S TAX PLAN

America needs a bold, simple and achievable plan based on conservative economic principles. This plan does that with needed tax relief for all Americans, especially the working poor and middle class, pro-growth tax reform for all sizes of businesses, and fiscally responsible steps to ensure this plan does not add to our enormous debt and deficit.

This plan simplifies the tax code by taking nearly 50% of current filers off the income tax rolls entirely and reducing the number of tax brackets from seven to four for everyone else. This plan also reduces or eliminates loopholes used by the very rich and special interests made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rates on individuals and companies.

The Trump Tax Plan: A Simpler Tax Code For All Americans

When the income tax was first introduced, just one percent of Americans had to pay it. It was never intended as a tax most Americans would pay. The Trump plan eliminates the income tax for over 73 million households. 42 million households that currently file complex forms to determine they don’t owe any income taxes will now file a one page form saving them time, stress, uncertainty and an average of $110 in preparation costs. Over 31 million households get the same simplification and keep on average nearly $1,000 of their hard-earned money.

For those Americans who will still pay the income tax, the tax rates will go from the current seven brackets to four simpler, fairer brackets that eliminate the marriage penalty and the AMT while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II:



<tbody>
Income Tax Rate
Long Term Cap Gains/ Dividends Rate
Single Filers
Married Filers
Heads of Household


0%
0%
$0 to $25,000
$0 to $50,000
$0 to $37,500


10%
0%
$25,001 to $50,000
$50,001 to $100,000
$37,501 to $75,000


20%
15%
$50,001 to $150,000
$100,001 to $300,000
$75,001 to $225,000


25%
20%
$150,001 and up
$300,001 and up
$225,001 and up

</tbody>


With this huge reduction in rates, many of the current exemptions and deductions will become unnecessary or redundant. Those within the 10% bracket will keep all or most of their current deductions. Those within the 20% bracket will keep more than half of their current deductions. Those within the 25% bracket will keep fewer deductions. Charitable giving and mortgage interest deductions will remain unchanged for all taxpayers.

Simplifying the tax code and cutting every American’s taxes will boost consumer spending, encourage savings and investment, and maximize economic growth.

Business Tax Reform To Encourage Jobs And Spur Economic Growth

Too many companies – from great American brands to innovative startups – are leaving America, either directly or through corporate inversions. The Democrats want to outlaw inversions, but that will never work. Companies leaving is not the disease, it is the symptom. Politicians in Washington have let America fall from the best corporate tax rate in the industrialized world in the 1980’s (thanks to Ronald Reagan) to the worst rate in the industrialized world. That is unacceptable. Under the Trump plan, America will compete with the world and win by cutting the corporate tax rate to 15%, taking our rate from one of the worst to one of the best.

This lower tax rate cannot be for big business alone; it needs to help the small businesses that are the true engine of our economy. Right now, freelancers, sole proprietors, unincorporated small businesses and pass-through entities are taxed at the high personal income tax rates. This treatment stifles small businesses. It also stifles tax reform because efforts to reduce loopholes and deductions available to the very rich and special interests end up hitting small businesses and job creators as well. The Trump plan addresses this challenge head on with a new business income tax rate within the personal income tax code that matches the 15% corporate tax rate to help these businesses, entrepreneurs and freelancers grow and prosper.

These lower rates will provide a tremendous stimulus for the economy – significant GDP growth, a huge number of new jobs and an increase in after-tax wages for workers.

The Trump Tax Plan Ends The Unfair Death Tax

The death tax punishes families for achieving the American dream. Therefore, the Trump plan eliminates the death tax.

The Trump Tax Plan Is Fiscally Responsible

The Trump tax cuts are fully paid for by:



Reducing or eliminating deductions and loopholes available to the very rich, starting by steepening the curve of the Personal Exemption Phaseout and the Pease Limitation on itemized deductions. The Trump plan also phases out the tax exemption on life insurance interest for high-income earners, ends the current tax treatment of carried interest for speculative partnerships that do not grow businesses or create jobs and are not risking their own capital, and reduces or eliminates other loopholes for the very rich and special interests. These reductions and eliminations will not harm the economy or hurt the middle class. Because the Trump plan introduces a new business income rate within the personal income tax code, they will not harm small businesses either.
A one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas at a significantly discounted 10% tax rate. Since we are making America’s corporate tax rate globally competitive, it is only fair that corporations help make that move fiscally responsible. U.S.-owned corporations have as much as $2.5 trillion in cash sitting overseas. Some companies have been leaving cash overseas as a tax maneuver. Under this plan, they can bring their cash home and put it to work in America while benefitting from the newly-lowered corporate tax rate that is globally competitive and no longer requires parking cash overseas. Other companies have cash overseas for specific business units or activities. They can leave that cash overseas, but they will still have to pay the one-time repatriation fee.
An end to the deferral of taxes on corporate income earned abroad. Corporations will no longer be allowed to defer taxes on income earned abroad, but the foreign tax credit will remain in place because no company should face double taxation.
Reducing or eliminating some corporate loopholes that cater to special interests, as well as deductions made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rate on corporations and business income. We will also phase in a reasonable cap on the deductibility of business interest expenses.


https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform

DragonStryk72
09-28-2015, 01:20 PM
Hm, now it looks good on paper, but there's a significant issue in the fact of whether he'd be able to pass it. His tendency to be directly abrasive much of the time, even to members of the Republican party, is not going to ingratiate him to Congressmen he will need in order to get this passed.

jimnyc
09-28-2015, 01:26 PM
Hm, now it looks good on paper, but there's a significant issue in the fact of whether he'd be able to pass it. His tendency to be directly abrasive much of the time, even to members of the Republican party, is not going to ingratiate him to Congressmen he will need in order to get this passed.

I agree. But at the end of the day, it's either a good plan or it's not. If someone votes against, simply for personal reasons, that's dumb, but it happens.

DragonStryk72
09-28-2015, 01:38 PM
I agree. But at the end of the day, it's either a good plan or it's not. If someone votes against, simply for personal reasons, that's dumb, but it happens.

Eh, yes and no. Being constantly, and intentionally, abrasive has a downside, as it should. Not every Congressman is going to purely benefit from this tax plan, and that means getting people to go against their own self-interest. In order to do that, you need to have some degree to which they want to work with you.

This is the one place where Trump is sorely lacking, and it gets worse when you consider him having to work with Dems, given his current attitude on the matter.

Gunny
09-28-2015, 01:40 PM
I agree. But at the end of the day, it's either a good plan or it's not. If someone votes against, simply for personal reasons, that's dumb, but it happens.

It won't get through Congress. Corporate lobbyists will see to that.

jimnyc
09-28-2015, 01:45 PM
It won't get through Congress. Corporate lobbyists will see to that.

Probably so, probably so. Every 4 years we hear great plans about the economy and taxes and every 4 years we get shit on. The problem is more so congress than it is the president and what he stands for. Can someone use an executive order to fire all of them and start over? :)

jimnyc
09-28-2015, 01:48 PM
Eh, yes and no. Being constantly, and intentionally, abrasive has a downside, as it should. Not every Congressman is going to purely benefit from this tax plan, and that means getting people to go against their own self-interest. In order to do that, you need to have some degree to which they want to work with you.

This is the one place where Trump is sorely lacking, and it gets worse when you consider him having to work with Dems, given his current attitude on the matter.

I agree again. But it's sad, because whether or not a congressman benefits from the plan or not shouldn't matter. Whether his constituents want such a plan or changes is what should matter. Unfortunately, representing what constituents want went out the window a long time ago.

Also, their political careers will be on the line too. If they don't want what is on the table, they'll need to come up with something different.

DLT
09-28-2015, 01:50 PM
Too few Americans are working, too many jobs have been shipped overseas, and too many middle class families cannot make ends meet. This tax plan directly meets these challenges with four simple goals:



Tax relief for middle class Americans: In order to achieve the American dream, let people keep more money in their pockets and increase after-tax wages.
Simplify the tax code to reduce the headaches Americans face in preparing their taxes and let everyone keep more of their money.
Grow the American economy by discouraging corporate inversions, adding a huge number of new jobs, and making America globally competitive again.
Doesn’t add to our debt and deficit, which are already too large.



The Trump Tax Plan Achieves These Goals



If you are single and earn less than $25,000, or married and jointly earn less than $50,000, you will not owe any income tax. That removes nearly 75 million households – over 50% – from the income tax rolls. They get a new one page form to send the IRS saying, “I win,” those who would otherwise owe income taxes will save an average of nearly $1,000 each.
All other Americans will get a simpler tax code with four brackets – 0%, 10%, 20% and 25% – instead of the current seven. This new tax code eliminates the marriage penalty and the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II.
No business of any size, from a Fortune 500 to a mom and pop shop to a freelancer living job to job, will pay more than 15% of their business income in taxes. This lower rate makes corporate inversions unnecessary by making America’s tax rate one of the best in the world.
No family will have to pay the death tax. You earned and saved that money for your family, not the government. You paid taxes on it when you earned it.


The Trump Tax Plan Is Revenue Neutral

The Trump tax cuts are fully paid for by:



Reducing or eliminating most deductions and loopholes available to the very rich.
A one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas at a significantly discounted 10% tax rate, followed by an end to the deferral of taxes on corporate income earned abroad.
Reducing or eliminating corporate loopholes that cater to special interests, as well as deductions made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rate on corporations and business income. We will also phase in a reasonable cap on the deductibility of business interest expenses.


DETAILS OF DONALD J. TRUMP’S TAX PLAN

America needs a bold, simple and achievable plan based on conservative economic principles. This plan does that with needed tax relief for all Americans, especially the working poor and middle class, pro-growth tax reform for all sizes of businesses, and fiscally responsible steps to ensure this plan does not add to our enormous debt and deficit.

This plan simplifies the tax code by taking nearly 50% of current filers off the income tax rolls entirely and reducing the number of tax brackets from seven to four for everyone else. This plan also reduces or eliminates loopholes used by the very rich and special interests made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rates on individuals and companies.

The Trump Tax Plan: A Simpler Tax Code For All Americans

When the income tax was first introduced, just one percent of Americans had to pay it. It was never intended as a tax most Americans would pay. The Trump plan eliminates the income tax for over 73 million households. 42 million households that currently file complex forms to determine they don’t owe any income taxes will now file a one page form saving them time, stress, uncertainty and an average of $110 in preparation costs. Over 31 million households get the same simplification and keep on average nearly $1,000 of their hard-earned money.

For those Americans who will still pay the income tax, the tax rates will go from the current seven brackets to four simpler, fairer brackets that eliminate the marriage penalty and the AMT while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II:



<tbody>
Income Tax Rate
Long Term Cap Gains/ Dividends Rate
Single Filers
Married Filers
Heads of Household


0%
0%
$0 to $25,000
$0 to $50,000
$0 to $37,500


10%
0%
$25,001 to $50,000
$50,001 to $100,000
$37,501 to $75,000


20%
15%
$50,001 to $150,000
$100,001 to $300,000
$75,001 to $225,000


25%
20%
$150,001 and up
$300,001 and up
$225,001 and up

</tbody>


With this huge reduction in rates, many of the current exemptions and deductions will become unnecessary or redundant. Those within the 10% bracket will keep all or most of their current deductions. Those within the 20% bracket will keep more than half of their current deductions. Those within the 25% bracket will keep fewer deductions. Charitable giving and mortgage interest deductions will remain unchanged for all taxpayers.

Simplifying the tax code and cutting every American’s taxes will boost consumer spending, encourage savings and investment, and maximize economic growth.

Business Tax Reform To Encourage Jobs And Spur Economic Growth

Too many companies – from great American brands to innovative startups – are leaving America, either directly or through corporate inversions. The Democrats want to outlaw inversions, but that will never work. Companies leaving is not the disease, it is the symptom. Politicians in Washington have let America fall from the best corporate tax rate in the industrialized world in the 1980’s (thanks to Ronald Reagan) to the worst rate in the industrialized world. That is unacceptable. Under the Trump plan, America will compete with the world and win by cutting the corporate tax rate to 15%, taking our rate from one of the worst to one of the best.

This lower tax rate cannot be for big business alone; it needs to help the small businesses that are the true engine of our economy. Right now, freelancers, sole proprietors, unincorporated small businesses and pass-through entities are taxed at the high personal income tax rates. This treatment stifles small businesses. It also stifles tax reform because efforts to reduce loopholes and deductions available to the very rich and special interests end up hitting small businesses and job creators as well. The Trump plan addresses this challenge head on with a new business income tax rate within the personal income tax code that matches the 15% corporate tax rate to help these businesses, entrepreneurs and freelancers grow and prosper.

These lower rates will provide a tremendous stimulus for the economy – significant GDP growth, a huge number of new jobs and an increase in after-tax wages for workers.

The Trump Tax Plan Ends The Unfair Death Tax

The death tax punishes families for achieving the American dream. Therefore, the Trump plan eliminates the death tax.

The Trump Tax Plan Is Fiscally Responsible

The Trump tax cuts are fully paid for by:



Reducing or eliminating deductions and loopholes available to the very rich, starting by steepening the curve of the Personal Exemption Phaseout and the Pease Limitation on itemized deductions. The Trump plan also phases out the tax exemption on life insurance interest for high-income earners, ends the current tax treatment of carried interest for speculative partnerships that do not grow businesses or create jobs and are not risking their own capital, and reduces or eliminates other loopholes for the very rich and special interests. These reductions and eliminations will not harm the economy or hurt the middle class. Because the Trump plan introduces a new business income rate within the personal income tax code, they will not harm small businesses either.
A one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas at a significantly discounted 10% tax rate. Since we are making America’s corporate tax rate globally competitive, it is only fair that corporations help make that move fiscally responsible. U.S.-owned corporations have as much as $2.5 trillion in cash sitting overseas. Some companies have been leaving cash overseas as a tax maneuver. Under this plan, they can bring their cash home and put it to work in America while benefitting from the newly-lowered corporate tax rate that is globally competitive and no longer requires parking cash overseas. Other companies have cash overseas for specific business units or activities. They can leave that cash overseas, but they will still have to pay the one-time repatriation fee.
An end to the deferral of taxes on corporate income earned abroad. Corporations will no longer be allowed to defer taxes on income earned abroad, but the foreign tax credit will remain in place because no company should face double taxation.
Reducing or eliminating some corporate loopholes that cater to special interests, as well as deductions made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rate on corporations and business income. We will also phase in a reasonable cap on the deductibility of business interest expenses.


https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform


So where is the part about eliminating the estate tax? That is a very pertinent part of this plan, btw.


Mr. Trump’s plan appears designed to help him, as the GOP front-runner, cement his standing as a populist—though that message is complicated by the fact that the billionaire, like other Republican leaders, would eliminate the estate tax.
(http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/trump-plan-cuts-taxes-for-millions/ar-AAeS480?li=AAa0dzB&ocid=iehp)

NightTrain
09-28-2015, 02:14 PM
It won't get through Congress. Corporate lobbyists will see to that.


Disagree - corporations stand to gain a great deal from this tax plan. Setting up subsidiaries overseas is a pain in the ass and expensive - but they're doing it now to avoid punishing tax rates.

Make it profitable to be based here in the USA instead of Mexico or India or wherever, and they'll stay here.

gabosaurus
09-28-2015, 02:42 PM
Looks good on paper. Which means it will never get through Congress. Too many hands in too many pockets.

I want to see Trump's answer to one of the biggest problems facing the American worker. Which is companies having their products made overseas to take advantage of cheaper labor. I would like to see such products face a stiff import tax, which would level the playing field.
Yes, many products will see a price hike. But it will also encourage more competition from American businesses.

fj1200
09-28-2015, 03:36 PM
Looks good on paper. Which means it will never get through Congress. Too many hands in too many pockets.

I want to see Trump's answer to one of the biggest problems facing the American worker. Which is companies having their products made overseas to take advantage of cheaper labor. I would like to see such products face a stiff import tax, which would level the playing field.
Yes, many products will see a price hike. But it will also encourage more competition from American businesses.

No. Free trade is good for a reason. The problems facing American workers is poor corporate tax policies that benefit foreign workers to the detriment of domestic workers. American consumers paying higher costs for products is not a net benefit.

fj1200
09-28-2015, 03:38 PM
Disagree - corporations stand to gain a great deal from this tax plan. Setting up subsidiaries overseas is a pain in the ass and expensive - but they're doing it now to avoid punishing tax rates.

Make it profitable to be based here in the USA instead of Mexico or India or wherever, and they'll stay here.

Well he did say corporate "lobbyists" and not corporations. Lobbyists would not like it if it reduces their ability to lobby for beneficial treatment for their clients.

fj1200
09-28-2015, 03:39 PM
So where is the part about eliminating the estate tax? That is a very pertinent part of this plan, btw.

Umm, you quoted it.


The Trump Tax Plan Ends The Unfair Death Tax

The death tax punishes families for achieving the American dream. Therefore, the Trump plan eliminates the death tax.

NightTrain
09-28-2015, 04:05 PM
Well he did say corporate "lobbyists" and not corporations. Lobbyists would not like it if it reduces their ability to lobby for beneficial treatment for their clients.


Now that would be funny - Lobbyists lobbying on behalf of lobbyists.

aboutime
09-28-2015, 07:09 PM
Trump's tax plan, like any conservative tax plan; makes Democrat heads spin so fast, they instantly declare the Government will never succeed. If Democrats have a limited source of STEALING from the American tax payer. They automatically will tell their UNEDUCATED Voters...how they are being robbed, and that non collection of taxes is UN-Socialistic, and anti-Democratic since...TAXES....HIGH TAXES make the Democrat Politician Rich.

LongTermGuy
09-28-2015, 09:40 PM
Trump's tax plan, like any conservative tax plan; makes Democrat heads spin so fast, they instantly declare the Government will never succeed. If Democrats have a limited source of STEALING from the American tax payer. They automatically will tell their UNEDUCATED Voters...how they are being robbed, and that non collection of taxes is UN-Socialistic, and anti-Democratic since...TAXES....HIGH TAXES make the Democrat Politician Rich.


***well said old friend....

I like the plan...and he had help from some top financial advisers in making it...watched Hannity tonight...Hannity likes it also...

Donald Trump 2016! smell the Leftist / Rhino / picky amd emotional Fools / ....Fear:cool::salute:

:laugh:

indago
09-28-2015, 11:08 PM
Trump's tax plan, like any conservative tax plan; makes Democrat heads spin so fast, they instantly declare the Government will never succeed. If Democrats have a limited source of STEALING from the American tax payer. They automatically will tell their UNEDUCATED Voters...how they are being robbed, and that non collection of taxes is UN-Socialistic, and anti-Democratic since...TAXES....HIGH TAXES make the Democrat Politician Rich.

Of course, you do realize, don't you, that all this hype about a tax plan is just for the LoInfos to argue over. Trump can't do shit about raising taxes.

aboutime
09-29-2015, 01:28 PM
Of course, you do realize, don't you, that all this hype about a tax plan is just for the LoInfos to argue over. Trump can't do shit about raising taxes.


Really? How bout telling us what you mean? You mean he can't do it like Obama has managed to Raise Taxes...? Ya know? With the approval of the Supreme Court on Obamacare????

Trigg
09-29-2015, 01:58 PM
Looks good on paper. Which means it will never get through Congress. Too many hands in too many pockets.

I want to see Trump's answer to one of the biggest problems facing the American worker. Which is companies having their products made overseas to take advantage of cheaper labor. I would like to see such products face a stiff import tax, which would level the playing field.
Yes, many products will see a price hike. But it will also encourage more competition from American businesses.


I actually agree with something gabby says

fj1200
09-29-2015, 02:00 PM
I would like to see such products face a stiff import tax, which would level the playing field.
Yes, many products will see a price hike. But it will also encourage more competition from American businesses.

Almost missed this part: How does protectionist policies that raise import prices encourage domestic competition?

indago
09-29-2015, 02:20 PM
Really? How bout telling us what you mean? You mean he can't do it like Obama has managed to Raise Taxes...? Ya know? With the approval of the Supreme Court on Obamacare????

PPACA was passed by the Congress.

aboutime
09-29-2015, 07:27 PM
PPACA was passed by the Congress.


Sure thing. Right after Nancy Pelosi told all of her sheep to vote on it BEFORE they knew what was in it!

That was when the Dems had a Majority...and they still blew it.