SUGGESTION: New Sub Forum

[Christie Brinkley]

I was wondering since there has been a growth in the amount of people who have joined the forum from Britain wouldn't it be best to set up a sub forum which could be called
UK Politics/Current Events

Since BDF (british forum) has closed I have contacts who are looking for a forum to discuss politics on and I will suggest they come here but I feel there has to be a section in which UK politics and current affairs can be discussed else many will be alienated and won't take the leap over the pond (if you will;)).

[Perianne]

I was wondering since there has been a growth in the amount of people who have joined the forum from Britain wouldn't it be best to set up a sub forum which could be called
UK Politics/Current Events

Since BDF (british forum) has closed I have contacts who are looking for a forum to discuss politics on and I will suggest they come here but I feel there has to be a section in which UK politics and current affairs can be discussed else many will be alienated and won't take the leap over the pond (if you will;)).

Wonderful suggestion. I will PM Jim for you.

[Black Diamond]

Maybe doing this will get the that whiny liberal Drummond to come back. :laugh2:

[Perianne]

Maybe doing this will get the that whiny liberal Drummond to come back. :laugh2:

You be nice to Drummond or I will spank you right in front of everyone!!!! :laugh:

[Black Diamond]

You be nice to Drummond or I will spank you right in front of everyone!!!! :laugh:

Promise?

[fj1200]

There is one: link (http://www.debatepolicy.com/forumdisplay.php?24-Conspiracy-Theories)

[Christie Brinkley]

There is one: link (http://www.debatepolicy.com/forumdisplay.php?24-Conspiracy-Theories)
The UK is a conspiracy theory? Strange.

Bit angry because you got your ass whipped in a debate we had?

[Gunny]

I was wondering since there has been a growth in the amount of people who have joined the forum from Britain wouldn't it be best to set up a sub forum which could be called
UK Politics/Current Events

Since BDF (british forum) has closed I have contacts who are looking for a forum to discuss politics on and I will suggest they come here but I feel there has to be a section in which UK politics and current affairs can be discussed else many will be alienated and won't take the leap over the pond (if you will;)).

Hmmm ...

I'm not against the subforum. What I will point out though is you stubborn Brits don't put any attempt in at understanding the differences between us and you. And that goes BOTH ways. Most Americans have NO clue about your politics. I'm just not sure division is the answer. I think more open-mindedness/understanding on both parts would be the real answer. There's already international news forums here.

If it will get others to post here I don't see the harm. I just don't see the need.

Just my 2 cents.

[Christie Brinkley]

Hmmm ...

I'm not against the subforum. What I will point out though is you stubborn Brits don't put any attempt in at understanding the differences between us and you. And that goes BOTH ways. Most Americans have NO clue about your politics. I'm just not sure division is the answer. I think more open-mindedness/understanding on both parts would be the real answer. There's already international news forums here.

If it will get others to post here I don't see the harm. I just don't see the need.

Just my 2 cents.
It is not just me interested in UK politics as there are other brits on here who also are.

To be honest I would say more brits know more about your politics than Americans know about British politics.

UK is not international to me and other users. I know your argument could be that then there can't be a Canadian sub forum then a French sub forum so on...

I feel there are enough people to justify a sub forum.

[Gunny]

It is not just me interested in UK politics as there are other brits on here who also are.

To be honest I would say more brits know more about your politics than Americans know about British politics.

UK is not international to me and other users. I know your argument could be that then there can't be a Canadian sub forum then a French sub forum so on...

I feel there are enough people to justify a sub forum.

I'm not making an argument. I just put in my 2 cents. The decision is Jim's. I have no problem interacting with Brits. Been on a couple of operations with some and grew up reading British literature.

As far as who knows what, y'all must have a lot of time on your hands if you know what's going on here when WE don't even know what's going on here. :laugh:

[DLT]

I was wondering since there has been a growth in the amount of people who have joined the forum from Britain wouldn't it be best to set up a sub forum which could be called
UK Politics/Current Events

Since BDF (british forum) has closed I have contacts who are looking for a forum to discuss politics on and I will suggest they come here but I feel there has to be a section in which UK politics and current affairs can be discussed else many will be alienated and won't take the leap over the pond (if you will;)).

That is an excellent idea. I'm just mad I didn't think of it first. ;)

[DLT]

It is not just me interested in UK politics as there are other brits on here who also are.

To be honest I would say more brits know more about your politics than Americans know about British politics.

UK is not international to me and other users. I know your argument could be that then there can't be a Canadian sub forum then a French sub forum so on...

I feel there are enough people to justify a sub forum.

I agree, and that is why I joined the Brit forum, to learn about UK politics. Maybe there is hope yet, eh? If enough of them come here for that UK section....?

[Gunny]

I agree, and that is why I joined the Brit forum, to learn about UK politics. Maybe there is hope yet, eh? If enough of them come here for that UK section....?

But, you joined a Brit forum for a purpose. Some don't try to understand and I know some Brits who try and judge us by THEIR definitions. Doesn't work. Conservatives and liberals there are not conservatives and liberals here. Same goes the other way around.

Problem I have noticed over the years are duplicate subforums and duplicate threads. Too many subforums makes the casual glancer just leave. I rarely look in more than 3 or 4 and usually just go with the Top 10 list. And how many threads do we already have on the Dem debates? Like they said anything.

[Elessar]

And how many threads do we already have on the Dem debates? Like they said anything.

Agreed. The Dem debates are splattered all over the place!

[Gunny]

Agreed. The Dem debates are splattered all over the place!

This is up to the owner and his staff, not me. I just tossed in my 2 cents. I don't care one way nor the other. If more people will post here because of an extra forum, cool. I love to learn from different people and in case no one's noticed, I love a good argument.

But we don't need to segregate the board. I'd be more than willing to learn about British politics but I don't want just another mudfest.

[Drummond]

The UK is a conspiracy theory? Strange.

Bit angry because you got your ass whipped in a debate we had?:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Drummond]

The UK is a conspiracy theory? Strange.

Bit angry because you got your ass whipped in a debate we had?

I think FJ gets fed up having his ass whipped by Brits generally ... :laugh::laugh:

... & at least, finally, he's stopped calling himself 'The One True Thatcherite' .. that one was way too ridiculous !!

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I was wondering since there has been a growth in the amount of people who have joined the forum from Britain wouldn't it be best to set up a sub forum which could be called
UK Politics/Current Events

Since BDF (british forum) has closed I have contacts who are looking for a forum to discuss politics on and I will suggest they come here but I feel there has to be a section in which UK politics and current affairs can be discussed else many will be alienated and won't take the leap over the pond (if you will;)).

Why not???
I hope that Jim gives it a go myself.. even if only on a trial basis at first.
Maybe name it the BIF, short for, BRITISH INVASION FORUM. LOL--:beer:

I suspect in the next 3 or 4 years USA will get hundreds of thousands Brit transplants to our shores fleeing the coming muslim massacres there.
And trust ON THIS, they are ramping up now, sitting on ready waiting on GO!--Tyr

[gabosaurus]

What happened to the Brit forum? Did Jose Mourinho blame them for the latest Chelsea loss? (A sure kiss of death I am told)

[Gunny]

It is not just me interested in UK politics as there are other brits on here who also are.

To be honest I would say more brits know more about your politics than Americans know about British politics.

UK is not international to me and other users. I know your argument could be that then there can't be a Canadian sub forum then a French sub forum so on...

I feel there are enough people to justify a sub forum.

The second other trick you need to learn is that if you want the owner to notice you request, either keep your thread at the top, or PM him. I STILL get accused of crap that went on I had no idea about and I haven't run a forum in 5 years. He's usually on in the early morning and mid to late afternoon OUR time.

With Jim, just make it a Pittsburgh Steelers thread and put it in sports.:laugh:

[Christie Brinkley]

What happened to the Brit forum? Did Jose Mourinho blame them for the latest Chelsea loss? (A sure kiss of death I am told)
The owner closed it down because it was too much trouble http://democracyforum.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=102

[Black Diamond]

The owner closed it down because it was too much trouble http://democracyforum.co.uk/forumdisplay.php?f=102
Bring them on over. Can talk British invasion. :laugh:

[Christie Brinkley]

Bring them on over. Can talk British invasion. :laugh:
I doubt they will stay if they have to put up with you yanks all the time (joking:beer:)

[Abbey Marie]

I've brought your suggestion into the Staff forum, and am waiting for a discussion with Jim.

[Black Diamond]

I've brought your suggestion into the Staff forum, and am waiting for a discussion with Jim.

Christie should have brought this up Monday night.:laugh:

[Gunny]

Christie should have brought this up Monday night.:laugh:

That'll work. The Steelers were playing? That's a non-happening event. I'd rather try to get a wolverine off a dog than pull Jim away from a Steelers game. :laugh:

[Black Diamond]

That'll work. The Steelers were playing? That's a non-happening event. I'd rather try to get a wolverine off a dog than pull Jim away from a Steelers game. :laugh:

Easier to get what you want from Jim after a steeler victory. :laugh:

[fj1200]

The UK is a conspiracy theory? Strange.

Bit angry because you got your ass whipped in a debate we had?

It was a joke yo.

And by A* whipped do you mean where you made a false claim and spent the rest of the thread trying to remain relevant?

[fj1200]

I think FJ gets fed up having his ass whipped by Brits generally ... :laugh::laugh:

... & at least, finally, he's stopped calling himself 'The One True Thatcherite' .. that one was way too ridiculous !!

:confused: It hasn't happened yet? :shrug:

But I realized that you aren't mentally capable of letting something go. It seems you still aren't capable. :(

[DLT]

Why not???
I hope that Jim gives it a go myself.. even if only on a trial basis at first.
Maybe name it the BIF, short for, BRITISH INVASION FORUM. LOL--:beer:

I suspect in the next 3 or 4 years USA will get hundreds of thousands Brit transplants to our shores fleeing the coming muslim massacres there.
And trust ON THIS, they are ramping up now, sitting on ready waiting on GO!--Tyr

That's a bit hostile right off the bat! lol You're kidding, of course.

And don't suspect too hard there. It could well be that, instead, there will be thousands of US transplants outta here over the next year, in fact, due to Obama's Muzzie fondness and immigration policies.

[revelarts]

It would be interesting ti me as a reader. I only see a little of U.K. Political overview news. be nice to see ground level opinions.
be nice to get some new blood in here as well,
the place needs some fresh air IMO.

[jimnyc]

New forum, top of the board, 3rd subforum down. :)

I hope we have 7,234 new members when I wake in the morning! :beer:

[Drummond]

:confused: It hasn't happened yet? :shrug:

But I realized that you aren't mentally capable of letting something go. It seems you still aren't capable. :(

You're delusional ? Or is your attention-span issue kicking in once more ?

I've looked at your avatar .. and sure enough, you just include the single word 'Conservative' below it. Before, it said 'The One True Thatcherite' .. before that, 'The Ultimate Thatcherite'. So what are you talking about, with 'It hasn't happened yet?' .. ??

So, you've finally let go of all that nonsense - & about time ! You're no such thing.

Now, we have to work on your - ahem - 'Conservative' claim. Hard for you to maintain in any credible way, I'd have thought. Your strong anti-austerity line, for example, is represented by the Greek LEFTIES (Syriza), the Spanish LEFTIES (Podemos), and most notably, is strongly advocated by British LEFTIES (Labour) under a far more hardline Socialist leader (recently elected to the post), one Jeremy Corbyn ...

.. but, ahem, you're nonetheless still 'Conservative' .... :laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Christie Brinkley]

You're delusional ? Or is your attention-span issue kicking in once more ?

I've looked at your avatar .. and sure enough, you just include the single word 'Conservative' below it. Before, it said 'The One True Thatcherite' .. before that, 'The Ultimate Thatcherite'. So what are you talking about, with 'It hasn't happened yet?' .. ??

So, you've finally let go of all that nonsense - & about time ! You're no such thing.

Now, we have to work on your - ahem - 'Conservative' claim. Hard for you to maintain in any credible way, I'd have thought. Your strong anti-austerity line, for example, is represented by the Greek LEFTIES (Syriza), the Spanish LEFTIES (Podemos), and most notably, is strongly advocated by British LEFTIES (Labour) under a far more hardline Socialist leader (recently elected to the post), one Jeremy Corbyn ...

.. but, ahem, you're nonetheless still 'Conservative' .... :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Btw Syriza (even when I despise socialist ideology) were actually against EU tyranny they still sold them selves out and proved to europe the left cannot take back our countries.
JUDAS GOAT:
http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7780&stc=1

[indago]

You're delusional ? Or is your attention-span issue kicking in once more ?

I've looked at your avatar .. and sure enough, you just include the single word 'Conservative' below it. Before, it said 'The One True Thatcherite' .. before that, 'The Ultimate Thatcherite'. So what are you talking about, with 'It hasn't happened yet?' .. ??

So, you've finally let go of all that nonsense - & about time ! You're no such thing.

Now, we have to work on your - ahem - 'Conservative' claim. Hard for you to maintain in any credible way, I'd have thought. Your strong anti-austerity line, for example, is represented by the Greek LEFTIES (Syriza), the Spanish LEFTIES (Podemos), and most notably, is strongly advocated by British LEFTIES (Labour) under a far more hardline Socialist leader (recently elected to the post), one Jeremy Corbyn ...

.. but, ahem, you're nonetheless still 'Conservative' .... :laugh::laugh::laugh:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-mKTzjzm6k

[DLT]

It would be interesting ti me as a reader. I only see a little of U.K. Political overview news. be nice to see ground level opinions.
be nice to get some new blood in here as well,
the place needs some fresh air IMO.

I concur.

[DLT]

New forum, top of the board, 3rd subforum down. :)

I hope we have 7,234 new members when I wake in the morning! :beer:

L O L !!!

You sure you could handle the influx, Jim? Be careful what you dream of ...:laugh:

[Perianne]

L O L !!!

You sure you could handle the influx, Jim? Be careful what you dream of ...:laugh:

I wish we could get some more Periannes, or the like. :)

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I doubt they will stay if they have to put up with you yanks all the time (joking:beer:)
Hey, we Yanks come in handy at times, eh? WW1 and WW2 , come to mind right off bat methinks.. :beer:-Tyr

[Drummond]

Hey, we Yanks come in handy at times, eh? WW1 and WW2 , come to mind right off bat methinks.. :beer:-Tyr:clap::clap::clap:

'Handy' is a great understatement .. in WWII, though we fended Hitler off for years, I think that sooner or later we'd have been overrun by his Third Reich had the Americans not intervened ...

[Christie Brinkley]

:clap::clap::clap:

'Handy' is a great understatement .. in WWII, though we fended Hitler off for years, I think that sooner or later we'd have been overrun by his Third Reich had the Americans not intervened ...
To be honest it was the Russians that really saved us.


Russians lost


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26,600,000



</tbody>


USA lost


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419,400



</tbody>


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

:clap::clap::clap:

'Handy' is a great understatement .. in WWII, though we fended Hitler off for years, I think that sooner or later we'd have been overrun by his Third Reich had the Americans not intervened ...

So true my friend. Even with America in the war they almost won it!
Had we foolishly abstained -Britain would have fallen, no doubt about that...
Here is the third time Britain needs help but we are not likely to rescue it in my opinion.
They themselves brought in their destroyers--the muslim hordes that breed and exist only to destroy! -Tyr

[tailfins]

To be honest it was the Russians that really saved us.


Russians lost


<tbody>
26,600,000



</tbody>


USA lost


<tbody>
419,400


</tbody>


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

So you consider incompetence helpful?

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

To be honest it was the Russians that really saved us.


Russians lost


<tbody>
26,600,000



</tbody>


USA lost


<tbody>
419,400



</tbody>


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties

You could not be more wrong!
We helped save the Russians. --Tyr

[Christie Brinkley]

You could not be more wrong!
We helped save the Russians. --Tyr
The Russians were already on the offensive after Stalingrad the states helped mostly with the air campaign until Italy then D-day.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

You could not be more wrong!
We helped save the Russians. --Tyr


AND HOW MANY OF THAT WAS MILITARY?




World War II casualties of the Soviet Union
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
World War II casualties of the Soviet Union from all related causes were over 20,000,000, both civilians and military, although the statistics vary to a great extent largely because these figures are currently disputed. During the Soviet era information on casualties was considered top secret; it was only later in the Glasnost period that information on Soviet World War II casualties was published. In 1993 a study by the Russian Academy of Sciences estimated total Soviet population losses due to the war at 26.6 million,[1][2][3][4] including military dead of 8.7 million calculated by the Russian Ministry of Defense.[5] These figures have been accepted by most historians outside of Russia. However the figure of 8.7 million military dead has been disputed by some historians in Russia because it is in conflict with the official database of the Central Defense Ministry Archive (CDMA) which lists the names of roughly 14 million dead and missing servicemen.[6][7] Some independent researchers in Russia have put total losses in the war, both civilians and military, at over 40 million.[8][9] This article covers the details of the Russian government sources as well as a presentation of sources disputing these figures.


CHINA LOST MILLIONS(15 or 20) OF CIVILIANS TOO , THE JAPS MASSACRED MILLIONS...
DO WE NOW PROCLAIM THEM MORE RESPONSIBLE FOR OUR VICTORY?



World War II casualties of the Soviet Union
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
World War II casualties of the Soviet Union from all related causes were over 20,000,000, both civilians and military, although the statistics vary to a great extent largely because these figures are currently disputed. During the Soviet era information on casualties was considered top secret; it was only later in the Glasnost period that information on Soviet World War II casualties was published. In 1993 a study by the Russian Academy of Sciences estimated total Soviet population losses due to the war at 26.6 million,[1][2][3][4] including military dead of 8.7 million calculated by the Russian Ministry of Defense.[5] These figures have been accepted by most historians outside of Russia. However the figure of 8.7 million military dead has been disputed by some historians in Russia because it is in conflict with the official database of the Central Defense Ministry Archive (CDMA) which lists the names of roughly 14 million dead and missing servicemen.[6][7] Some independent researchers in Russia have put total losses in the war, both civilians and military, at over 40 million.[8][9] This article covers the details of the Russian government sources as well as a presentation of sources disputing these figures.




World War II casualties
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dead Soviet soldiers, January 1942. Officially, roughly 8.7 million Soviet soldiers died in the course of the war.

Killing of Jews at Ivanhorod, Ukraine, 1942. A woman tries to shield a child with her body as Einsatzgruppen soldiers aim their rifles.

American corpses sprawled on the beach of Tarawa. The Marines secured the island after 76 hours of intense fighting with around 6,000 dead in total. Over 100,000 American military personnel died in the Pacific War.
World War II was the deadliest military conflict in history in absolute terms of total dead.[1] Over 60 million people were killed, which was about 3% of the 1940 world population (est. 2.3 billion[2]). The tables below give a detailed country-by-country count of human losses. World War II fatality statistics vary, with estimates of total dead ranging from 50 million to more than 80 million.[3] The higher figure of over 80 million includes deaths from war-related disease and famine. Civilians killed totalled 50 to 55 million, including 19 to 28 million from war-related disease and famine. Total military dead: from 21 to 25 million, including deaths in captivity of about 5 million prisoners of war.
Recent historical scholarship has shed new light on the topic of Second World War casualties. Research in Russia since the collapse of the Soviet Union has caused a revision of estimates of Soviet war dead.[4] According to Russian government figures USSR losses within postwar borders now stand at 26.6 million.[5][6] In August 2009 the Polish Institute of National Remembrance (IPN) researchers estimated Poland's dead at between 5.6 and 5.8 million.[7] The historian Rüdiger Overmans of the German Armed Forces Military History Research Office published a study in 2000 that estimated German military dead and missing at 5.3 million.[8]


Dead civilians do not win wars my friend.. just sayin.. -Tyr

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

The Russians were already on the offensive after Stalingrad the states helped mostly with the air campaign until Italy then D-day.




http://www.historynet.com/did-russia-really-go-it-alone-how-lend-lease-helped-the-soviets-defeat-the-germans.htm

That the Soviet victories of late 1941 were won with Soviet blood and largely with Soviet weapons is beyond dispute. But for decades the official Soviet line went much further. Soviet authorities recognized that the “Great Patriotic War” gave the Communist Party a claim to legitimacy that went far beyond Marxism-Leninism or the 1917 Revolution, and took pains to portray their nation’s victories in World War II as single-handed. Any mention of the role that Western assistance played in the Soviet war effort was strictly off-limits.

During Nikita Khrushchev’s rule in the late 1950s and early 1960s, there was a window of greater frankness and openness about the extent of aid supplied from the West under the Lend-Lease Act—but it was still clearly forbidden for Soviet authors to suggest that such aid ever made any real difference on the battlefield. Mentions of Lend-Lease in memoirs were always accompanied by disparagement of the quality of the weapons supplied, with American and British tanks and planes invariably portrayed as vastly inferior to comparable Soviet models.

An oft-quoted statement by First Vice-Chairman of the Council of People’s Commissars Nikolai Voznesensky summed up the standard line that Allied aid represented “only 4 percent” of Soviet production for the entire war. Lacking any detailed information to the contrary, Western authors generally agreed that even if Lend-Lease was important from 1943 on, as quantities of aid dramatically increased, the aid was far too little and late to make a difference in the decisive battles of 1941–1942.

But since the collapse of the Soviet Union, a trickle of information has emerged from archives in Moscow, shedding new light on the subject. While much of the documentary evidence remains classified “secret” in the Central Archives of the Ministry of Defense and the Russian State Archive of the Economy, Western and Russian researchers have been able to gain access to important, previously unavailable firsthand documents. I was recently able to examine Russian-language materials of the State Defense Committee—the Soviet equivalent of the British War Cabinet—held in the former Central Party Archive. Together with other recently published sources, including the wartime diaries of N. I. Biriukov, a Red Army officer responsible from August 1941 on for the distribution of recently acquired tanks to the front lines, this newly available evidence paints a very different picture from the received wisdom. In particular, it shows that British Lend-Lease assistance to the Soviet Union in late 1941 and early 1942 played a far more significant part in the defense of Moscow and the revival of Soviet fortunes in late 1941 than has been acknowledged.

Particularly important for the Soviets in late 1941 were British-supplied tanks and aircraft. American contributions of the time were far fewer. In fact, for a brief period during December 1941, the relative importance of British aid increased well beyond levels planned by the Allies as a result of American reaction to the outbreak of war with Japan; some American equipment destined for the Soviet Union was actually unloaded from merchant vessels and provided to American forces instead.

Even aid that might seem like a drop in the bucket in the larger context of Soviet production for the war played a crucial role in filling gaps at important moments during this period. At a time when Soviet industry was in disarray—many of their industrial plants were destroyed or captured by the advancing Nazi troops or in the process of evacuation east—battlefield losses of specific equipment approached or even exceeded the rate at which Soviet domestic production could replace them during this crucial period. Under these circumstances even small quantities of aid took on far greater significance.

According to research by a team of Soviet historians, the Soviet Union lost a staggering 20,500 tanks from June 22 to December 31, 1941. At the end of November 1941, only 670 Soviet tanks were available to defend Moscow—that is, in the recently formed Kalinin, Western, and Southwestern Fronts. Only 205 of these tanks were heavy or medium types, and most of their strength was concentrated in the Western Front, with the Kalinin Front having only two tank battalions (67 tanks) and the Southwestern Front two tank brigades (30 tanks).

Given the disruption to Soviet production and Red Army losses, the Soviet Union was understandably eager to put British armor into action as soon as possible. According to Biriukov’s service diary, the first 20 British tanks arrived at the Soviet tank training school in Kazan on October 28, 1941, at which point a further 120 tanks were unloaded at the port of Archangel in northern Russia. Courses on the British tanks for Soviet crews started during November as the first tanks, with British assistance, were being assembled from their in-transit states and undergoing testing by Soviet specialists.

The tanks reached the front lines with extraordinary speed. Extrapolating from available statistics, researchers estimate that British-supplied tanks made up 30 to 40 percent of the entire heavy and medium tank strength of Soviet forces before Moscow at the beginning of December 1941, and certainly made up a significant proportion of tanks available as reinforcements at this critical point in the fighting. By the end of 1941 Britain had delivered 466 tanks out of the 750 promised.

The British Military Mission to Moscow noted that by December 9, about ninety British tanks had already been in action with Soviet forces. The first of these units to have seen action seems to have been the 138th Independent Tank Battalion (with twenty-one British tanks), which was involved in stemming the advance of German units in the region of the Volga Reservoir to the north of Moscow in late November. In fact the British intercepted German communications indicating that German forces had first come in contact with British tanks on the Eastern front on November 26, 1941.

The exploits of the British-equipped 136th Independent Tank Battalion are perhaps the most widely noted in the archives. It was part of a scratch operational group of the Western Front consisting of the 18th Rifle Brigade, two ski battalions, the 5th and 20th Tank Brigades, and the 140th Independent Tank Battalion. The 136th Independent Tank Battalion was combined with the latter to produce a tank group of only twenty-one tanks, which was to operate with the two ski battalions against German forces advancing to the west of Moscow in early December. Other largely British-equipped tank units in action with the Western Front from early December were the 131st Independent Tank Brigade, which fought to the east of Tula, south of Moscow, and 146th Tank Brigade, in the region of Kriukovo to the immediate west of the Soviet capital.

While the Matilda Mk II and Valentine tanks supplied by the British were certainly inferior to the Soviets’ homegrown T-34 and KV-1, it is important to note that Soviet production of the T-34 (and to a lesser extent the KV series), was only just getting seriously underway in 1942, and Soviet production was well below plan targets. And though rapid increases in tank firepower would soon render the 40mm two-pounder main gun of the Matilda and Valentine suitable for use on light tanks only, the armor protection of these British models put them firmly in the heavy and medium categories, respectively. Both were superior to all but the Soviet KV-1 and T-34 in armor, and indeed even their much maligned winter cross-country performance was comparable to most Soviet tanks excluding the KV-1 and T-34.

A steady stream of British-made tanks continued to flow into the Red Army through the spring and summer of 1942. Canada would eventually produce 1,420 Valentines, almost exclusively for delivery to the Soviet Union. By July 1942 the Red Army had 13,500 tanks in service, with more than 16 percent of those imported, and more than half of those British.

Lend-Lease aircraft deliveries were also of significance during the Battle of Moscow. While Soviet pilots praised the maneuverability of the homegrown I-153 Chaika and I-16 Ishak fighters—still in use in significant numbers in late 1941—both types were certainly obsolete and inferior in almost all regards to the British-supplied Hurricane. The Hurricane was rugged and tried and tested, and as useful at that point as many potentially superior Soviet designs such as the LaGG-3 and MiG-3. There were apparently only 263 LaGG-3s in the Soviet inventory by the time of the Moscow counteroffensive, and it was an aircraft with numerous defects. At the end of 1941 there were greater numbers of the MiG-3, but the plane was considered difficult to fly. The Yak-1, arguably the best of the batch, and superior in most regards to the Hurricane, suffered from airframe and engine defects in early war production aircraft.

A total of 699 Lend-Lease aircraft had been delivered to Archangel by the time the Arctic convoys switched to Murmansk in December 1941. Of these, 99 Hurricanes and 39 Tomahawks were in service with the Soviet air defense forces on January 1, 1942, out of a total of 1,470 fighters. About 15 percent of the aircraft of the 6th Fighter Air Corps defending Moscow were Tomahawks or Hurricanes.

The Soviet Northern Fleet was also a major and early recipient of British Hurricanes, receiving those flown by No. 151 Wing of the RAF, which operated briefly from Soviet airfields near Murmansk. As early as October 12, 1941, the Soviet 126th Fighter Air Regiment was operating with Tomahawks bought from the United States by Britain. Tomahawks also served in defense of the Doroga Zhizni or “Road of Life” across the ice of Lake Ladoga, which provided the only supply line to the besieged city of Leningrad during the winter of 1941–42. By spring and summer of 1942 the Hurricane had clearly become the principal fighter aircraft of the Northern Fleet’s air regiments; in all, 83 out of its 109 fighters were of foreign origin.

British and Commonwealth deliveries to the Soviet Union in late 1941 and early 1942 would not only assist in the Soviet defense of Moscow and subsequent counteroffensive, but also in increasing Soviet production for the next period of the war. Substantial quantities of machine tools and raw materials, such as aluminum and rubber, were supplied to help Soviet industry back on its feet: 312 metal-cutting machine tools were delivered by convoy PQ-12 alone, arriving in March 1942, along with a range of other items for Soviet factories such as machine presses and compressors.

Once again, raw figures do not tell the whole story. Although British shipments amounted to only a few percent of Soviet domestic production of machine tools, the Soviet Union could request specific items which it may not have been able to produce for itself. Additionally, many of the British tools arrived in early 1942, when Soviet tool production was still very low, resulting in a disproportionate impact. The handing over of forty imported machine tools to Aviation Factory No. 150 in July 1942, for example, was the critical factor in enabling the factory to reach projected capacity within two months.

Lend-Lease aid did not “save” the Soviet Union from defeat during the Battle of Moscow. But the speed at which Britain in particular was willing and able to provide aid to the Soviet Union, and at which the Soviet Union was able to put foreign equipment into frontline use, is still an underappreciated part of this story. During the bitter fighting of the winter of 1941–1942, British aid made a crucial difference.

This story originally appeared in the June/July 2008 issue of World War II

[Christie Brinkley]

The amount of dead in the military was high compared to the US


8,668,000
to 10,922,000
US-
407,300 BF1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#endnote_USMIL)

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

The amount of dead in the military was high compared to the US


8,668,000[119] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#cite_note-119)

to 10,922,000 [120 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#cite_note-120)

407,300 BF1 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties#endnote_USMIL)





True but that does not equate to that of Russia being the primarily reason the allies won imho.
We tailored operation- Anvil or Overlord to draw german reserves away from Russia at a very crucial time as per Stalin's desperate requests. Winston Churchhill speaks about it in his book.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I haven't enough time to delve into this more this morn but tonight can devote more time to do so. -Tyr

[NightTrain]

To be honest it was the Russians that really saved us.


Russians lost


<tbody>
26,600,000



</tbody>


USA lost


<tbody>
419,400


</tbody>


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties


No, you're way off base there.

I don't have time to show you, gotta run to work. We carried the USSR in raw supplies and hardware in a big way and wouldn't have had a chance without our war material.

I think I showed Balu a pretty impressive list a while back, if someone wants to search for it and post here in this thread.

[Christie Brinkley]

No, you're way off base there.

I don't have time to show you, gotta run to work. We carried the USSR in raw supplies and hardware in a big way and wouldn't have had a chance without our war material.

I think I showed Balu a pretty impressive list a while back, if someone wants to search for it and post here in this thread.


I said the United States was the main air power which helped take down Germany's factories but the Russians took the heaviest toll in terms of military and civilian deaths. They did have a chance because Hitler was an ideological nut case who had no idea what Russia was capable of when on the brink of capitulation. To be honest the weather helped more.

[fj1200]

Or is your attention-span issue kicking in once more ?

Not at all. I'm still aware that you are whiny and humorless. Hopefully we'll get some new Brit members so I'll have a larger population to determine if all Brits are as whiny and humorless as you. Also with the new forum I imagine you'll have more opportunity to call for big government solutions as a means of fending off your insecurities.

[tailfins]

I said the United States was the main air power which helped take down Germany's factories but the Russians took the heaviest toll in terms of military and civilian deaths. They did have a chance because Hitler was an ideological nut case who had no idea what Russia was capable of when on the brink of capitulation. To be honest the weather helped more.

If the Russians had substituted bicycles for tanks and taken on even heavier casualties, would they have been deemed to have made an even bigger "contribution"?

[Christie Brinkley]

If the Russians had substituted bicycles for tanks and taken on even heavier casualties, would they have been deemed to have made an even bigger "contribution"?
Ahahaha!

During July 1943’s Battle of Kursk, some 6,000 tanks, 2 million men and 5,000 aircraft clashed in one of the most strategically important engagements of World War II. The campaign began when the Germans set their sights on a 70-mile-long salient, or bulge, in the Soviet lines in western Russia. Hitler delayed the attack by several weeks to allow the Nazis’ new Tiger tanks to reach the front, which gave the Soviets time to fortify the entire region. When the German offensive finally commenced, they were met by a storm of mines and artillery fire that eventually destroyed hundreds of tanks and left a total of some 350,000 men dead on both sides. Unable to match the Soviets in a contest of attrition

[jimnyc]

L O L !!!

You sure you could handle the influx, Jim? Be careful what you dream of ...:laugh:

What I DREAM of? All foreign hotties with big boobies will soon be joining us? :beer:

But sure, we'll take some more Brits, all good people that I've ever dealt with. :)

[Black Diamond]

Ahahaha!

During July 1943’s Battle of Kursk, some 6,000 tanks, 2 million men and 5,000 aircraft clashed in one of the most strategically important engagements of World War II. The campaign began when the Germans set their sights on a 70-mile-long salient, or bulge, in the Soviet lines in western Russia. Hitler delayed the attack by several weeks to allow the Nazis’ new Tiger tanks to reach the front, which gave the Soviets time to fortify the entire region. When the German offensive finally commenced, they were met by a storm of mines and artillery fire that eventually destroyed hundreds of tanks and left a total of some 350,000 men dead on both sides. Unable to match the Soviets in a contest of attrition

Kursk and Stalingrad were meat grinders.

[Perianne]

What I DREAM of? All foreign hotties with big boobies will soon be joining us? :beer:


Though born overseas, I don't have biguns. I hope I am still welcome here.

[jimnyc]

Though born overseas, I don't have biguns. I hope I am still welcome here.

Biguns, medium, small, any boobies are good boobies! (don't even start with any man boobs, as they are not boobs).

I remember when I was in grade school we had the IBTC for the gals with no boobs, the "itty bitty titty committee". Being in 5th and 6th grade or so, pretty much every young lady was a member of the group at that time. But I learned as I got older that all boobs ON WOMEN are awesome. Even better when covered with lingerie first, as pretty much anything underneath lingerie is awesome and fun to discover! And no, not if on a man! :thumb:

[Black Diamond]

Biguns, medium, small, any boobies are good boobies! (don't even start with any man boobs, as they are not boobs).



What? You didn't like meat loaf's "bitch tits" in fight club? :laugh:

[Black Diamond]

Though born overseas, I don't have biguns. I hope I am still welcome here.

The entire package would be evaluated.

[Perianne]

The entire package would be evaluated.

I should behave. I have been feeling naughty lately. lol

[Drummond]

That the Soviet victories of late 1941 were won with Soviet blood and largely with Soviet weapons is beyond dispute. But for decades the official Soviet line went much further. Soviet authorities recognized that the “Great Patriotic War” gave the Communist Party a claim to legitimacy that went far beyond Marxism-Leninism or the 1917 Revolution, and took pains to portray their nation’s victories in World War II as single-handed. Any mention of the role that Western assistance played in the Soviet war effort was strictly off-limits.

During Nikita Khrushchev’s rule in the late 1950s and early 1960s, there was a window of greater frankness and openness about the extent of aid supplied from the West under the Lend-Lease Act—but it was still clearly forbidden for Soviet authors to suggest that such aid ever made any real difference on the battlefield. Mentions of Lend-Lease in memoirs were always accompanied by disparagement of the quality of the weapons supplied, with American and British tanks and planes invariably portrayed as vastly inferior to comparable Soviet models.

An oft-quoted statement by First Vice-Chairman of the Council of People’s Commissars Nikolai Voznesensky summed up the standard line that Allied aid represented “only 4 percent” of Soviet production for the entire war. Lacking any detailed information to the contrary, Western authors generally agreed that even if Lend-Lease was important from 1943 on, as quantities of aid dramatically increased, the aid was far too little and late to make a difference in the decisive battles of 1941–1942.

But since the collapse of the Soviet Union, a trickle of information has emerged from archives in Moscow, shedding new light on the subject. While much of the documentary evidence remains classified “secret” in the Central Archives of the Ministry of Defense and the Russian State Archive of the Economy, Western and Russian researchers have been able to gain access to important, previously unavailable firsthand documents. I was recently able to examine Russian-language materials of the State Defense Committee—the Soviet equivalent of the British War Cabinet—held in the former Central Party Archive. Together with other recently published sources, including the wartime diaries of N. I. Biriukov, a Red Army officer responsible from August 1941 on for the distribution of recently acquired tanks to the front lines, this newly available evidence paints a very different picture from the received wisdom. In particular, it shows that British Lend-Lease assistance to the Soviet Union in late 1941 and early 1942 played a far more significant part in the defense of Moscow and the revival of Soviet fortunes in late 1941 than has been acknowledged.

Particularly important for the Soviets in late 1941 were British-supplied tanks and aircraft. American contributions of the time were far fewer. In fact, for a brief period during December 1941, the relative importance of British aid increased well beyond levels planned by the Allies as a result of American reaction to the outbreak of war with Japan; some American equipment destined for the Soviet Union was actually unloaded from merchant vessels and provided to American forces instead.

Even aid that might seem like a drop in the bucket in the larger context of Soviet production for the war played a crucial role in filling gaps at important moments during this period. At a time when Soviet industry was in disarray—many of their industrial plants were destroyed or captured by the advancing Nazi troops or in the process of evacuation east—battlefield losses of specific equipment approached or even exceeded the rate at which Soviet domestic production could replace them during this crucial period. Under these circumstances even small quantities of aid took on far greater significance.

According to research by a team of Soviet historians, the Soviet Union lost a staggering 20,500 tanks from June 22 to December 31, 1941. At the end of November 1941, only 670 Soviet tanks were available to defend Moscow—that is, in the recently formed Kalinin, Western, and Southwestern Fronts. Only 205 of these tanks were heavy or medium types, and most of their strength was concentrated in the Western Front, with the Kalinin Front having only two tank battalions (67 tanks) and the Southwestern Front two tank brigades (30 tanks).

Given the disruption to Soviet production and Red Army losses, the Soviet Union was understandably eager to put British armor into action as soon as possible. According to Biriukov’s service diary, the first 20 British tanks arrived at the Soviet tank training school in Kazan on October 28, 1941, at which point a further 120 tanks were unloaded at the port of Archangel in northern Russia. Courses on the British tanks for Soviet crews started during November as the first tanks, with British assistance, were being assembled from their in-transit states and undergoing testing by Soviet specialists.

The tanks reached the front lines with extraordinary speed. Extrapolating from available statistics, researchers estimate that British-supplied tanks made up 30 to 40 percent of the entire heavy and medium tank strength of Soviet forces before Moscow at the beginning of December 1941, and certainly made up a significant proportion of tanks available as reinforcements at this critical point in the fighting. By the end of 1941 Britain had delivered 466 tanks out of the 750 promised.

The British Military Mission to Moscow noted that by December 9, about ninety British tanks had already been in action with Soviet forces. The first of these units to have seen action seems to have been the 138th Independent Tank Battalion (with twenty-one British tanks), which was involved in stemming the advance of German units in the region of the Volga Reservoir to the north of Moscow in late November. In fact the British intercepted German communications indicating that German forces had first come in contact with British tanks on the Eastern front on November 26, 1941.

The exploits of the British-equipped 136th Independent Tank Battalion are perhaps the most widely noted in the archives. It was part of a scratch operational group of the Western Front consisting of the 18th Rifle Brigade, two ski battalions, the 5th and 20th Tank Brigades, and the 140th Independent Tank Battalion. The 136th Independent Tank Battalion was combined with the latter to produce a tank group of only twenty-one tanks, which was to operate with the two ski battalions against German forces advancing to the west of Moscow in early December. Other largely British-equipped tank units in action with the Western Front from early December were the 131st Independent Tank Brigade, which fought to the east of Tula, south of Moscow, and 146th Tank Brigade, in the region of Kriukovo to the immediate west of the Soviet capital.

While the Matilda Mk II and Valentine tanks supplied by the British were certainly inferior to the Soviets’ homegrown T-34 and KV-1, it is important to note that Soviet production of the T-34 (and to a lesser extent the KV series), was only just getting seriously underway in 1942, and Soviet production was well below plan targets. And though rapid increases in tank firepower would soon render the 40mm two-pounder main gun of the Matilda and Valentine suitable for use on light tanks only, the armor protection of these British models put them firmly in the heavy and medium categories, respectively. Both were superior to all but the Soviet KV-1 and T-34 in armor, and indeed even their much maligned winter cross-country performance was comparable to most Soviet tanks excluding the KV-1 and T-34.

A steady stream of British-made tanks continued to flow into the Red Army through the spring and summer of 1942. Canada would eventually produce 1,420 Valentines, almost exclusively for delivery to the Soviet Union. By July 1942 the Red Army had 13,500 tanks in service, with more than 16 percent of those imported, and more than half of those British.

Lend-Lease aircraft deliveries were also of significance during the Battle of Moscow. While Soviet pilots praised the maneuverability of the homegrown I-153 Chaika and I-16 Ishak fighters—still in use in significant numbers in late 1941—both types were certainly obsolete and inferior in almost all regards to the British-supplied Hurricane. The Hurricane was rugged and tried and tested, and as useful at that point as many potentially superior Soviet designs such as the LaGG-3 and MiG-3. There were apparently only 263 LaGG-3s in the Soviet inventory by the time of the Moscow counteroffensive, and it was an aircraft with numerous defects. At the end of 1941 there were greater numbers of the MiG-3, but the plane was considered difficult to fly. The Yak-1, arguably the best of the batch, and superior in most regards to the Hurricane, suffered from airframe and engine defects in early war production aircraft.

A total of 699 Lend-Lease aircraft had been delivered to Archangel by the time the Arctic convoys switched to Murmansk in December 1941. Of these, 99 Hurricanes and 39 Tomahawks were in service with the Soviet air defense forces on January 1, 1942, out of a total of 1,470 fighters. About 15 percent of the aircraft of the 6th Fighter Air Corps defending Moscow were Tomahawks or Hurricanes.

The Soviet Northern Fleet was also a major and early recipient of British Hurricanes, receiving those flown by No. 151 Wing of the RAF, which operated briefly from Soviet airfields near Murmansk. As early as October 12, 1941, the Soviet 126th Fighter Air Regiment was operating with Tomahawks bought from the United States by Britain. Tomahawks also served in defense of the Doroga Zhizni or “Road of Life” across the ice of Lake Ladoga, which provided the only supply line to the besieged city of Leningrad during the winter of 1941–42. By spring and summer of 1942 the Hurricane had clearly become the principal fighter aircraft of the Northern Fleet’s air regiments; in all, 83 out of its 109 fighters were of foreign origin.

British and Commonwealth deliveries to the Soviet Union in late 1941 and early 1942 would not only assist in the Soviet defense of Moscow and subsequent counteroffensive, but also in increasing Soviet production for the next period of the war. Substantial quantities of machine tools and raw materials, such as aluminum and rubber, were supplied to help Soviet industry back on its feet: 312 metal-cutting machine tools were delivered by convoy PQ-12 alone, arriving in March 1942, along with a range of other items for Soviet factories such as machine presses and compressors.

Once again, raw figures do not tell the whole story. Although British shipments amounted to only a few percent of Soviet domestic production of machine tools, the Soviet Union could request specific items which it may not have been able to produce for itself. Additionally, many of the British tools arrived in early 1942, when Soviet tool production was still very low, resulting in a disproportionate impact. The handing over of forty imported machine tools to Aviation Factory No. 150 in July 1942, for example, was the critical factor in enabling the factory to reach projected capacity within two months.

Lend-Lease aid did not “save” the Soviet Union from defeat during the Battle of Moscow. But the speed at which Britain in particular was willing and able to provide aid to the Soviet Union, and at which the Soviet Union was able to put foreign equipment into frontline use, is still an underappreciated part of this story. During the bitter fighting of the winter of 1941–1942, British aid made a crucial difference.

This story originally appeared in the June/July 2008 issue of World War II

I'm surprised that we had the manufacturing capability that this suggests must've existed ! But regardless, this tells me that, though the Russian effort was a great one, it was unjderpinned and made possible by outside, WESTERN, help. So, even if more indirectly, the US obviously STILL played a highly pivotal role.

[Drummond]

Not at all. I'm still aware that you are whiny and humorless. Hopefully we'll get some new Brit members so I'll have a larger population to determine if all Brits are as whiny and humorless as you. Also with the new forum I imagine you'll have more opportunity to call for big government solutions as a means of fending off your insecurities.

I deny I'm humourless ! FJ, you are a great source of amusement to me - especially when in 'foot-in-mouth' mode.

So, then, you plan to sit in hostile judgement over any greater influx of my people, should they arrive ? I'm sure they'll be heartbroken to realise it ... :laugh: ... and don't forget to reserve your greatest vitriol to the most Conservative of them (of course) ..

As for your last sentence - as you claimed to be Thatcherite yourself, you should've been supportive of her record in Office .. which, of course, included several Governmental measures you'd have called 'Big Government'. So, then, as a 'Thatcherite' yourself, were you displaying your own insecurities by claiming such for yourself ? Or, perhaps, you regarded Mrs Thatcher as an 'insecure' Prime Minister ?? :rolleyes::rolleyes:

FJ, I challenge you to find me a British leader who displayed MORE self-assuredness than she herself did !! ;)

[Drummond]

I should behave. I have been feeling naughty lately. lol

Must be that 'walk on the wild side' you took, during your time on my Brit forum !!;)

[Gunny]

I'm surprised that we had the manufacturing capability that this suggests must've existed ! But regardless, this tells me that, though the Russian effort was a great one, it was unjderpinned and made possible by outside, WESTERN, help. So, even if more indirectly, the US obviously STILL played a highly pivotal role.

What happened with Russia is Stalin thought he and Htiler were buds. He got caught off guard the same way we did at Pearl Harbour. He thought they were going to divide Europe between them. And Hitler was as stupid as Obama .. didn't learn a damned thing from history. Invading Russia is stupid and Napoleon had already proven it. We collectively don't have the people to occupy that place.

We didn't give them help. We played Chamberlain. We're sitting back like wimps letting Putin do what he wants.

[Drummond]

What happened with Russia is Stalin thought he and Htiler were buds. He got caught off guard the same way we did at Pearl Harbour. He thought they were going to divide Europe between them. And Hitler was as stupid as Obama .. didn't learn a damned thing from history. Invading Russia is stupid and Napoleon had already proven it. We collectively don't have the people to occupy that place.

We didn't give them help. We played Chamberlain. We're sitting back like wimps letting Putin do what he wants.

Very true. We shouldn't forget that Stalin's first instinct was to ally himself with Hitler. Only after that went sour - and that NOT through Stalin's own choice - did Russia suddenly become any sort of 'friend' of the Allies ..

[Gunny]

Very true. We shouldn't forget that Stalin's first instinct was to ally himself with Hitler. Only after that went sour - and that NOT through Stalin's own choice - did Russia suddenly become any sort of 'friend' of the Allies ..

And then started demanding support. They ripped off our technology. The YAK is a doppelganger for a P-39 Bell. And they just didn't even pretend when they ripped off the B-29.

Russia was NOT an ally. They fall under "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". Had Hitler not been stupid and attacked Russia, we'd have had a REAL b*tch of a war on our hands. Nobody seems to get you don't open a second front until you secure the first one.

Hitler was stupid in the Battle of Britain. He had the RAF almost destroyed and decided he was going to bomb London instead; which, gave y'all the relief to rebuild your fighter force. I'd love to see the video of them trying to invade the UK though. I'd probably STILL be giggling about THAT. If he thought Moscow was a b*tch ... :laugh: Try on Some Royal Marines and a bunch of Scots. Another case of not paying attention to history. Ran the damned Roman Empire off. Who are you again, Adolph? :laugh:

I just don't know what some of these people are thinking.

[indago]

Biguns, medium, small, any boobies are good boobies! (don't even start with any man boobs, as they are not boobs).

I remember when I was in grade school we had the IBTC for the gals with no boobs, the "itty bitty titty committee". Being in 5th and 6th grade or so, pretty much every young lady was a member of the group at that time. But I learned as I got older that all boobs ON WOMEN are awesome. Even better when covered with lingerie first, as pretty much anything underneath lingerie is awesome and fun to discover! And no, not if on a man! :thumb:

I am reminded of this old story...

AND GOD CREATED WOMAN

She had 3 breasts. She went to the pond and looked at her reflection in the clear water. God asked her what she thought. She held the middle breast in her hands and said that she didn't think she needed this one. He gestured and it came off in her hands. She again looked at her reflection in the pond and approved, but exclaimed: "What to do with this useless boob?"

And God created man.

[Gunny]

I am reminded of this old story...

AND GOD CREATED WOMAN

She had 3 breasts. She went to the pond and looked at her reflection in the clear water. God asked her what she thought. She held the middle breast in her hands and said that she didn't think she needed this one. He gestured and it came off in her hands. She again looked at her reflection in the pond and approved, but exclaimed: "What to do with this useless boob?"

And God created man.

You are weird.

[NightTrain]

To be honest it was the Russians that really saved us.


Russians lost


<tbody>
26,600,000



</tbody>


USA lost


<tbody>
419,400


</tbody>


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II_casualties


While Hitler's defeat was a group effort, you are completely disregarding the USA's role in propping up the USSR. Stalin didn't have the materials to wage war with Hitler and was completely outclassed until we gave Russia a staggering amount of material.

Here's the most complete list I can find - keep in mind that these are WWII dollar amounts :

ITEM Quantity Cost in Dollars


ATOMIC MATERIALS
Beryllium metals 9,681 lbs. $ 10,874.
Cadmium alloys 72,535 lbs. 70,029.
Cadmium metals 834,989 lbs. 781,466.
Cobalt ore & concentrate 33,600 lbs. 49,782.
Cobalt metal & Cobalt bearing scrap 806,941 lbs. 1,190,774.
Uranium metal 2.2 lbs. ---
Aluminun tubes (for reactors) 13,766,472 lbs. 13,041,152.
Graphite, nat., flake, lump or chip 7,384,282 lbs. 812,437.
Beryllium salts & compounds 228 lbs. 775.
Cadmium oxide 2,100 lbs. 3,080.
Cadmium salts & compounds, n.e.s. * 2 lbs. 19.
Cadmium sulfate 2,170 lbs. 1,374.
Cadmium sulfide 16,823 lbs. 17,380.
Cobalt nitrate 51 lbs. 48.
Cobalt oxide 17,800 lbs. 34,832.
Cobalt salts & compounds, n.e.s. 11,475 lbs. 7,112.
Cobaltic and cobaltous sulfate 22 lbs. 25.
Deuterium oxide (heavy water) 1,100 grs. ---


* n.e.s. stands for "not especially specified".




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ITEM Quantity Cost in Dollars




Thorium salts and compounds 25,352 $ 32,570 Brass & bronze blanks 32,760,542 lbs. $ 6,270,740.
Uranium nitrate 500 lbs. --- Brass & bronze plates & sheets 536,632,390 lbs. 99,376,514.
Uranium nitrate (U02) 220 lbs. --- Brass & bronze pipes & tubes l6,642,267 lbs. 5,126,324.
Uranium oxide 500 lbs. --- Copper alloys 660 lbs. 396.
Uranium, urano-uranic oxide (U308) 200 lbs. --- Insulated copper wire, n.e.s. 399,556,720 lbs. 97,637,534.
Copper maaufactures, n.e.s. --- 278,336.
METALS & METAL MANUFACTURES Copper rods 2,875,916 lbs. 553,042.
Aluminum & alloys, ingots, slabs, etc. 366,73S,204 lbs. 53,884,473. Copper wire, bare 28,235,738 lbs. 5,261,483.
Aluminum rods & bars 13,744,709 lbs. 3,285,014. Copper wire, rubber-covered 16,521,612 lbs. 3,965,050.
Aluminum plates, sheets, strips 124,052,618 lbs. 45,408,111. Copper wire, weather-proof 4,848,312 lbs. 1,261,789.
Aluminum foil 409,556 lbs. 205,231. Copper munitions, excl. rotat. bands 1,598,723 lbs. 2,102,024.
Aluminum kitchen, hospital utensils 310 lbs. 1,428. Copper refined ingots, bars, etc. 75,663,895 lbs. 9,041,122.
Aluminum powders & paste 219,736 lbs. 91,915. Copper pipes & tubes 38,913,403 lbs. 22,728,592.
Aluminum contr. valves 980 lbs. 10,122. Copper plates & sheets 26,432,417 lbs. 5,642,774.
Aluminum manufactures, n.e.s. --- 308,542. Nickel-chrome electric resistance wire 1,603,104 lbs. 2,121,121.
Brass &c bronze ingots 10,214,064 lbs. 1,283,755. Nickel ore, conc. & matts l55,604 lbs. 116,571.
Brass & bronze bars, rods, etc. 66,329,462 lbs. 12,502,080. Nickel alloys & scrap 1,944,796 lbs. 812,3ll.
Brass & bronze pipe fittings 14,097 lbs. 30,931. Nickel ingots, bars, rods, etc. 15,669,441 lbs. 6,560,7l9.
Brass & bronze valves, 4-in. & over 204,288 lbs. 189,623. Nickel manufactures, n.e.s. --- 2,216,294.
Brass goods, plumbers 8,598 lbs. 5,828. Tin & tin mfrs, tin foil 82,583 lbs. 44,353.
Brass or bronze wire l6,139,702 lbs. 3,734,169. Tin ingots, pigs, bars, etc. 30,620 lbs. 16,079.
Brass wood scrcws l,2l8 gross 453. Tin manufactures, n.e.s. --- 2.
Brass or bronze hardware --- 13,465. Lead foil and tin foil 26,880 lbs. 15,546.
Brass & bronze die stocks, etc. 8,739 lbs. 9,180. Lead, pigs & bars 801,234 lbs. l,913,769.
Brass & bronze munitions 21,824,376 lbs. 4,253,987. Lead sheets & pipes ?4,555 lbs, 6,720.
Brass & bronze window strips 65,924 lbs. 28,567. Lead, solder 378 Ibs. 76.
Brass & bronze, forgings 218 lbs. 249. Lead, cable 1,681,081 lbs. 314,308.
Brass & bronze circles 933,110 lbs. 194,447. Lead, plate or battery plate 1,122 lbs. 475.
Brass & bronze manufactures, n.e.s. --- 233,843. Lead, shot l8l,506 lbs. 17,646.


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Item Quantity Cost in Dollars
Item Quantity Cost in Dollars
METALS & METAL MANUFACTURES, continued METALS & METAL MANUFACTURES, continued


Vises 4,398 $ 68,521.
Lead, castings, circles, etc. 124,645 lbs. $ 40,569.
Lead manufactures, n.e.s. --- 105,421. Automotive wrenches & parts --- 25,736.
Carbonyl iron powder 27,050 lbs. 42,436. Wrenches & parts, excl. automotive --- 163,179.
Ferrochrome 7,820,3l3 lbs. 1,285,175. Drills, etc., metal cutting, power-driven 7,822,2l6 8,863,820.
Ferromolybdenum 5,357,500 lbs. 3,210,590. Drills, etc., excl. power-driven --- 9,062,215.
Ferrovanadium 1,074,190 lbs. 2,034,830. Hand-operated taps, etc., metal-working
Ferrophosphorus l9,229 lbs. 710. machines 593,278 1,091,423.
Ferrosilicon 16,187,318 lbs. 941,985. Hand-operated taps, etc., excL metal-
working machines --- 4,224,303.
Ferrotungsten 3,027,188 lbs. 4,715,335. Hand-operattd dies, etc., metal-work-
Ferro alloys, n.e.s. 88,900 lbs. 137,695.
Babbitt metal 604,569 lbs. 265,179. ing machines 35,538 32,346.
Quicksilver or mercury 10,590 lbs. 28,736. Hand-operated dies, etc., excl. metal-
Tungsten metal, etc. & alloy 279,449 lbs. 4,268,890. working machines --- 258,766.
Cerite or cerium ore 2,651 lbs. 8,978. Hand-operated metalcutting tools, n.e.s. --- 786,914.
Zirconium ore & concentrate 220 lbs. 2,420. Pliers, pincers, nippers, etc. 3,463 doz. 33,700.
Cesium metals & alloys 30,299 lbs. 78,61l. Drill pries, bit braces, etc. --- 217,288.
Chromium metal alloy scrap 23,924 lbs. 6,992. Planes, chisels & other cutting tools --- 121,833.
Manganese metal & alloys 359,006 lbs. ?9,259. Gauges for precision measure 38,348 1,562,938.
Molybdenum ore & concentrates 20,145,302 lbs. 10,841,501. Mechanic' hand tools, n.e.s. --- 5,272,573.
Magnesium metal primary form 17,798,206 lbs. 3,640,716. Tools with industrial diamonds 15 11l.
Molybdenum metal alloys, acrap 913,480 lbs. 466,602. Tool grinders, emery wheel dressers 15,650 lbs. 85,106.
Tantalum metal & alloys 6,513 lbs. 136,665. Hand tools & parts, n.e.a, --- 4,211,507.
Zirconium metal and alloy 193,450 lbs. 94,654. Padlock' of iron, steel, brass & bronze 146 521.
Magnesium powder 66 lbs. 75. Door locke of iron, steel, brass
Magnesium metal, n.e.s. 983,467 lbs. 208,475. bronze 5 doz. 55.
Molybdenum wire 396,527 lbs. 1,030,833. Wire bale ties 2,196,796 lbs. 103,900.
Ferromanganese 6,600 lbs. 1,272. Welding rods & wire, excl. electric 8,088,498 lbs. 1,487,802.
Vanadium ore & concentrate 5,395 lbs. 33,835. Wire on spools or coils, not cards 2,710,624 lbs. 270,830.
Metals & metal manufactures, n.e.s. --- 2,727,754. Wire, twisted 1,585 lbs. 536.


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Wire & manufactures, n.e.s. 23,236,266 lbs. $ 5,226,916. Zinc slabs, plates, blocs, n.e.s. 40,966,658 lbs. $ 3,750,736.
Wire nails 32,789,488 lbs. 1,214,356. Zinc wire 155,177 lbs. 38,767.
Tacks 900,422 Ibs. 133,604. Zinc manufactures, n.e.s. 202,324 lbs. 18,855.
Nails & staples, n.e.s. 8,105,218 lbs. 369,640. Bauxite concentrate, incl. alumina 11 tons 657.
Bolts, machine screws, nuts, etc. 13,370,637 lbs. 1,373,695. Plate, n.e.s. no alloy, excl. fabricated 17,951,792 lbs. 475,944.
Metal containers, filled, value 20% 68,650 lbs. 87,928. Armor plate, no alloy, not fabricated 39,283,679 lbs. 1,585,548.
Metal containers, unfilled 2,095,541 lbs. 352,525. Tin cans, finished or unfinished 667,603 lbs. 106,855.
Metal containers, unfilled, n.e.s. --- 616,795. Metal file cases, not insulated 3,547 165,004.
Pipestocks, etc., hand operated & parts --- 233,275. Metal File cases, insulated 13 2,860.
Screw plates, etc., hand-operated Metal furniture a parts, n.e.s. --- 49,360.
parts --- 639,746. Stoves, ranges, heaters, gas 84 9,296.
Machine knives, except metal cut 1,95l 41,218. Cooking, heating equipment, domestic
Safety razors 237 doz. 2,383. n.e.s. --- ?32,893.
Safety razor blades 857 c. 1,290. Parts, gas, kerosene, etc., stoves --- 16,617.
Cutlery, butchers & kitchens 34 doz. 500. Radiators house heating 1,426 1,315.
Cutlery, knives, shears 3,648 39,343. Oil burners & boilers industrial 126 59,605.
Cutlery & parts, n.e.s. --- 68,295. Parts oil burners & boilers, domestic --- 406,107.
Power transmission chains 92,675 lbs. 76,989. Cooking stoves, kerosene, excl. electric 27 1,332.
Chains, exc,. power transmission 13,971,287 lbs. 230,010. Room & water heaters, kerosene 1,088 13,059.
Enamelware, table, household, hospi- Stoves, room water heaters, gasoline 1,6ll 17,366.
tal, etc. 209,365 lbs. 43,492. Axes, broad & hand 12,608 doz. 22,769.
Boat propellers, blades 143,890 lbs. 8,042. Hacksaw blades, power machines 16,063 gross 346,272.
Metals & alloys, n.e.s. 791,073 lbs. 141,894. Hacksaw blades, excl. power machinery 32,172 gross 406,067.
Bauxite and other aluminum ores 56 tons 12,197. Circular saws, excl. diamond 36,175 1,079,630.
Zinc photo engraving sheets 220 lbs. 57. Circular saws, diamond 5,840 14,933.
Zinc sheets, n.e.s. & strips 2,000 lbs. 400. Saws, steel band, pit, drag & mill 7,l33 35,910.
Zinc slabs etc., special high grade 4,159,512 lbs. 397,266. Saws & parts, n.e.s. --- 1,551,889.
Zinc slabs, etc., high grade 26,757,974 lbs. 2,461,815. Augers, bits, gimlets, etc. 1,723 doz. 20,004.
Zinc slabs, etc, intermediate grade 4,253,496 lbs. 368,244. Files & rasps, under 7-in. 98,514 doz. 251,836.


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METALS & METAL MANUFACTURES, continued IRON, STEEL & ALLIED PRODUCTS
Files & rasps, 7-in. & over 95,811 doz. $ 330,827. Pig iron 7,644 tons $ 207,017.
Hammers & hatcbeta 24,757 doz. 92,890. Iron & sad scrap, n.e.s. 55 tons 35,989.
Shovels, spades, scoops, etc. 8,305 doz. 85,799. Tin plate cirles, strips, etc. 668 tons 84,490.
Scales & balances, n.e.s. 959 336,850. Iron & steel billets, no alloy 39,195 tons 8,522,389.
Scales, automatic, excl. bathroom 79,554 226,000. Iron & steel blooms, no alloy 1,064 tons 195,517.
Scales, precision 6,079 89,124. Iron & steel alloy billets 58,807 tons 16,327,932.
Hardware, car & Marine --- 249,162. Iron & steel alloy blooms 1,918 tons 356,652.
Hardware, n.e.s. --- 93,684. Iron & steel alloy slabs l ton 200.
Railway car wheels, excl. locomotive 44,532,719 lbs. 2,351,678. Steel alloy & tin plated bars 290 tons 32,51l.
Railway car tire & locomotive wheels 46,138,050 lbs. 3,169,777. Steel bars, cold finished 425,331,742 tons 39,360,892.
Railway car axles, without wheels 69,818,310 lbs. 2,520,778. Iron bars 994,557 lbs. 242,3l6.
Railway car axles, with wheels 45,900,258 lbs. 2,392,165. Concrete reinforcement steel bars 8,456,863 lbs. 441,350.
Railway locomotive car axles with- Iron & steel & tin plate bars, no
out wheels 1,632,615 lbs. 90,453. alloy 461 tons 27,136.
Railway locomotive car axles with Steel bars, no alloy, n.e.s. 209,312,002 lbs. 14,668,525.
wheels 2,190,959 lbs. 120,937. Stainless steel bars, n.e.s. 1,848,673 lbs. 632,12l.
Rail joints, splice bars, etc. 314,535,452 lbs. 9,427,137. Steel bars, alloy, n.e.s 368,427,121 lbs. 56,374,249.
R.R. switches, frogs, crossings l68,566,652 lbs. 10,946,307. Wire rods 3,648,579 lbs. 383,541.
Railroad spikes 56,999,319 lbs. 1,888,997. Roller plate, armor type 779,677 lbs. 17,891.
Railroad bolts, nuts, nut locks etc. 9,159,460 lbs. 630,947. Steel armor plate, alloy 5,801,465 lbs. 280,706.
Tie stock unfabricated whether or Steel plate, excl. armor alloy 20,820,647 lbs. 1,034,729.
not sheared to length 63,375 lbs. 3,840. Sciler plate, excl. armor type 37,614,885 lbs. 1,084,043.
Rails, 60 lbs. & over per yd. 170,025 lbs. 3,198,998. Plate alloy not fab. excl. armor 1l7,391,826 lbs. 6,497,713.
Rails, lese than 60 lbs. per yd, 2,144 tons 103,961. Stainless steel plate, not fab. 1,016,496 lbs. 339,468.
Rails, 60 lbs. & over per yd. 232,499 lbs. 10,009,983. Iron & steel structural shapes, not
Rails, under 60 lbs. 1,9l9 lbs. 81,965. fabricated 29,870 tons 1,871,436.
Sewing-machine needles 57,133 (M) 318,530. Iron & steel plates, fabricated,
Needles, excl. sewing-machine l4,447 (M) 183,503. punched, etc. l93,593,054 lbs. 12,623,581.
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Iron & steel hot-rolled, stainless 2,543,563 lbs. $ 476.262. Water, oil, gas, etc.., storage tanks 11,399,056 lbs. $ 832,539.
Iron & steel strip, cold-rolled, Seamless black pipe, n.e.s. 38,530,836 lbs. 2,932,023.
no alloy 192,816,458 lbs. 16,4ll,022. Iron or steel wood screws 5,496,440 gross 1,066,615.
Iron & Steel strip, hot-rolled Iron or steel tool bit blanks 4,403 lbs. 58,077.
no alloy 45,843,85l lbs. 1,903,017. Steel tank lines 2,386,98l lbs. 622,568.
Iron & steel & scroll, alloy, excl. Iron & steel manufacturers, n.e.s. --- 754,527.
stainless 1,196 lbs. 347. Iron & steel coated wire, n.e.s 17,803,17l lbs. 4,365,942.
Iron & steel band scroll, cold-rolled, Malleable iron castings 88,380 lbs. 40,828.
no alloy 2,281,415 lbs. 115,778. Gray iron castings 272,822 lbs. 32,235.
Iron & steel band scroll, hot-rolled, Steel casings, alloy, incl. stainless 63,289 lbs. 11,836.
no alloy 54,925 lbs. 2,054. Iron & steel grinding balls, no alloy, 3,948,946 lbs. 380,908.
Iron & steel skelp, excl. semi-fin. 22,400 lbs. 638. Iron & steel forgings, n.e.s. no alloy, 9,597,970 lbs. 1,676,349.
Iron sheets, galvanized 1,366,305 lbs. 50,761. Iron & steel grinding balls, alloy 3,978,051 lbs. 212,943.
Iron sheets, black 238,165 lbs. 6,665. Iron & Steel forgings, n.e.s., alloy 3,246,658 lbs. 615,391.
Steel sheets, galvanized 86,045,044 lbs. 3,363,966. Iron & steel forginga, n.e.s., alloy
Steel sheets, black, ungalvanized 432,663,290 lbs. 15,083,824. incl., stainless 13,429,686 lbs. 1,189,298.
Steel sheets, black, ungalvanized, Iron & steel hoop band, etc., cold-
stainless 8,452,653 lbs. 3,621,230. rolled, atainless l91,690 lbs. 5,544.
Steel sheets, ungalvanized, alloy 20,614,468 lbs. 2,244,755.
Steel hoop, cold-rolled, no alloy 1,727,369 lbs. 52,443. lron & steel hoop band, etc., cold-
Steel strip, cold-rolled, alloy 28,487,139 lbs. 5,508,009. rolled, alloy 1,169 lbs. 1,405.
Steel strip, hot-rolled, alloy 49,836,331 lbs. 7,982,848. Iron & steel hoop band, etc., hot-
Steel hoop, hot-rolled, alloy 497,701 lbs. 59,956. rolled. no alloy 1,460,590 lbs. 45,466.
Steel hoop, hot-rolled, no alloy 5,251,874 lbs. 162,656. Iron & steel hoop band, etc., hot-
Steel hoop, cold-rolled, alloy 107,504 lbs. 3,062. rolled, stainless 53,600 lbs. 1,402.
Tin plate & taggers' tin 339,131,813 lbs. 18,812,407. Steel casings, no alloy 675,033 lbs. 84,835.
Terneplate, incl. long ternes 21,928,318 lbs. 950,325. Boiler tubes, seemless 157,231,260 lbs. 17,,322,754.
Structural iron & steel shapes, fabri- 5,488 lbs. 1,063,865. Boiler tubes, welded 5,573,133 lbs. 613,956.
cated Pipe casing & oil-line, seamless 232,440,545 lbs. 11,164,969.
Pipe casing & oil-line, welded 50,165.68l lbs. 2,608,178.


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Item Quantity Cost in Dollars Item Quantity Cost in Dollars
IRON, STEEL & ALLIED PRODUCTS, continued MACHINES, MACHINE TOOLS & PARTS, continued
Malleable iron screwed pipefittings 999,d94 lbs. $ l80,756. Engine, incL tool-room lathes 3,340 $23,371,672.
Cast iron pressure pipe 7,439,539 lbs. 231,256. Balancing machines 3l 155,484.
Cast iron pressure pipe-fittings 325,288 lbs. 31,891. Shapers, metal power-driven 624 3,231,785.
Cast iron soil pipe 3,458,599 lbs. 114,717. Planers, metal power-driven 487 15,238,453.
Cast iron soil pipe-fittings 659,248 lbs. 40,79l. Grinding-surface, internal, external 6,608 54,759,178.
Welded black pipe, steel 13,618,029 lbs. 887,868. Precision boring machines, n.e.s. 880 14,804,678.
Welded black pipe, wrought iron 80,646,845 lbs. 3,644,605. Tapping & threading machines 456 1,704,241.
Welded galvanized pipe steel 1,835,969 lbs. l02,5l4. Auto screw bar type 1,926 23,440,971.
Iron & steel pipe, n.e.s. 67,763,737 lbs. 13,768,322. Knee & column milling 1,651 11,789,505.
Welded galvanized pipe, wrought Milling machines, n.e.s. 3,507 28,021,650.
iron 13,575,094 lbs. 691,250. Gear cutting 978 7,408,674.
Iron & steel pipe-fittings, n.e.s. 7,900,447 lbs. 2,900,1l7. Machine drilling sensitive, excl. bench 3l2 1,1l5,999.
Iron & steel wire, uncoated 86,937,329 lbs. 12,119,586. Radial drilling 759 6,181,009.
Iron & steel sash & frames 17,400 lbs. 1,583. Drilling machines, n.e.s. 1,352 5,301,663.
Iron & steel sheet piling 35,388,919 lbs. 952,275. All type breaching machines 281 2,678,790.
Galvanized wire 107,105,217 lbs. 7,246,6l4. Horizontal boring drill, etc. 845 19,552,825.
Barbed wire 81,459,023 lbs. 4,099,632. Gear honing finishing, n.e.s. 95 617,100.
Woven wire fencing 2,269,999 lbs. 186,761. Blower, ventilate machines & parts -- 4,682,945.
Cast-iron screwed pipe-fittings 7,383,537 lbs. 220;590. Canning machinery -- 210,083.
Woven wire screen cloth, insect 48,068 lbs. 18,890. Dairy equipment, commercial, n.e.s. 1,313 644,900.
Woven wire screen cloth, excl.insect 2,532,725 lbs. 2,179,358. Dyeing & finishing machinces & parts -- 68,?17.
Wire rope & cable, not insulated 101,891,796 lbs. 25,089,532. Flour grist mill machinery & parts -- 11,827.
Wire strand 36,474 lbs. 2,182. Forging machinery & parts -- 53,856,07l.
Electric welding rods & wire 24,264,316 lbs. 2,411,053. lce-making equipment & parts -- 261,547.
Refrigerating equipment & parts -- 439,904.
MACHINES, MACHINE TOOLS & PARTS Knitting machine parts, n.e.s. -- 67,804.
Lathes 2,644 28,373,506. Sewing machines & parts 362 127,085.
Turret lathes 3,073 25,574,695. Paper converting machinery & parts -- 1l0,793.
Engine lathes & bench type 999 5,770,713. Sawmill machinery & parts -- 166,221.


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Item Quantity Cost In Dollars
MACHINES, MACHINE TOOLS & PARTS, continued ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT, continued
Water wheels, turbines & parts -- S 522,845. Electric railway motors 8 $ 16,250.
Textile machinery & parts, n.e.s. -- 93,838. Electric locamotives railway mining 87 750,154.
Wood planers, matchers, etc. 1,571 344,854. Electric station warehouse & factory
Wire drawing machines & parts -- 2,508,079. trucks 1,229 4,587,780.
Blast cleaning, tumbling machines 6 37,224. Electric industrial trucks & tractors,
Chucks for machine tools 128,551 3,068,7ll. n.e.s. 424 1,204,401.
Foundry equipment parts, n.e.s. -- 3,896,873. Starting, etc. equipment for indus-
Die-casting equipment -- 918,455. trial motors -- 4,389,290.
Power metal working machine tools, n.e.s. 5,773 6,461,539. Starting, etc. equipment for electrlc
Rolling mill machinery & parts, n.e.s. -- 19,316,915. motors -- 730,015.
Power machines, tools & parts, n.e.s. -- 60,313,833. Accessories & parts for motors, n.e.s. -- 947,366.
Portable electric tools, power-driven 1,297 123,433.
Portable electric tools, n.e.s.
ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT Electric fans 3 33.
Switchboard panels & parts, excl. tele- Electric incandescent lamps 930,860 135,515.
phone -- 6,407.509. Searchlights & airpot beacons 953 4,189,708.
Oil circuit breakers & switches 7,318 1,593,675. Floodlights 457 13,593.
Power switches, circuit breakers, over Electric domestic vacuum cleaners 204 6,752.
10 amp. -- 2,281,137. Domestic heating or cooking devices,
Fuse plugs cont. mica 24,908 6,414. -- 50,203.
Fuses, n.e.s. 151,051 39,720.
Watt hour & other measuring meters 21,901 473,285.
Electric indicating instruments, n.e.s. 7,779 315,962. Electric melting furnaces & parts -- 10,466,162.
Electric recording instruments 1,610 157,717. Heat treating furances & parts -- 17,949,385.
Electric testing apparatus & parts, Industrial heatiag devices & parts -- 1,088,925.
n.e.s. -- 2,696,617. X-ray tubes 1,260 188,594.
Electric testing machines 4,367 334,064. X-ray apparatus & parts n.e.s. -- 2,628,349.
Lighting arresters, etc. -- 547,579. Therapeutic apparatus, n.e.s. -- 1,088,925.
Motors 13,463 6,102,370. Electric refrigerators, household 20 3,258.
Armatures for motors -- 35,408. Electric refrigerators, commercial un-
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ELECTRICAL EQUIPMENT, continued CANVAS ARTICLES, WOOLEN GOODS, CLOTHING, ETC.
Electric refrigerator parts -- $ l5l,438. continued
Radio receiving set components, n.e.s. -- 7,051,328. Canvas articles -- $ 7,239,229.
Loud speakers 133 1,833. Numbered biscuit & naught duct 1,009,120 sq. yd. 934,150.
Radio receiving set accessories, n.e.s. -- 2,082,247. Kapok life saving appliances -- 21,975.
Telegraph apparatus & parts -- 3,603,037. Fabric coated or impreg., n.e.s. 652,366 sq. yd. 446,797.
Telephone instruments 386,530 16,558,894. Textile manufactures, n.e.s. -- 141,l34.
Telephone equipment & parts, n.e.s. -- 15,739,286. Other cordage 2,500 lbs. 2,264.
Bells, buyers, enunciators & alarms -- 492,174. Istle or tampico manufanured 6 tons 2,640.
Starting, lighting, etc., equipment -- 264,9l8. Twine, binder, excl. cotton or jute 16,613,012 lbs. 1,903,578.
Electric insulating material l,586,378 lbs. 698,310. Flax, hemp, ramie manufactures,
Electric conduit iron or steel 1,548,868 lbs. 116,783. n.e.s. -- 7,456.
Electric conduit rigid metal, n.e.s, 221 948 lbs. 23,896. Hemp, ramie twine & cordage 319,649 lbs. 32,839.
Electric conduit metal, n.e.s., etc. -- 260,082. Pyroxlin coated impreg. fabric 17,693 sq. yd. 38,084.
Sockets, outlets, etc., & parts -- 391,867. Elastic webbing, not over 1 1/2 in. 1,009,500 yds. 57,226.
Electric interior lighting fixtures, Cotton moss & hair matresses 30 368.
fluorescent -- 10,442. Synthetic cut fibers & waste, n.e.s. 87,8l5 lbs. 32,249.
Electric interior lighting fixtures, Synthetic knit fabric in the pc. 3,000 lbs. 3,737.
n.e.s. -- 109,774. Woven synthetic yarn fabric, n.e.s. 22,663 lbs. 23,219.
Electric exterior lighting fixtures -- 226,878. Rayon waste & staple fiber 500,069 lbs. 141,668.
Electric curl. irons -- 8. Woven yarn fabric print cv. synth. 1,248 lbs. 1,785.
Flashlight cases 104,630 93,254. Synthetic hosiery, excl. nylons
Wmn's & childrea 1 doz. pr. 12.
CANVAS ARTICLES, WOOLEN GOODS, CLOTHlNG, ETC. Synthetic textile manufactures -- 1,617.
Clothing, aviation -- 1,017559. Oakum 5,130 lbs. 969.
Clothing, military & air, n.e.s. -- 283,367. Kapok cushions upholstery pads 12 30.
Clothing, military, personal & or- Cordage, n.e.s. 32,466 lbs. 5,468.
ganizational -- 21,701,189. Veg. fibre straw grass manufac-
Clothing navel 26,788. tures, n.e.s. -- 2,175.
Clothing military, cold weather -- 5,220,572. Mohair cloth 1,572,382 lbs. 2,670,321. . l5QIQIa ..comm.


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CANVAS ARTICLES, WOOLEN GOODS, CLOTHING, ETC, RUBBER COMMODITIES
continued Erasers & bands 61,539 lbs. $ 21,802.
Wool noile & waste 100 lbs. $ 29. Piecegoods & hospital sheeting,
Wool felts woven for machine l46 lbs. 315. n.e.s. l,745,3l3 sq. yd, 1,523,472.
Wool carpets & rugs 364 sq. yd. 348. Boots, shoes & heels 1,046,667 pr. 1,794,735.
Book cloth pyroxlin coated 5,328 sq. yd. 4,819. Clothing, gloves & mittens 179,163 doz. 1,437,294.
Synthetic braids, fringe, etc. -- 6,816. Druggist rubber sundries 1,188,146 513,434.
Viscose & cupr. cent. fil. yarn, etc. 40,126 lbs 22,577. Rubber manufactures: friction
Acetate rayon yarn 292,272 lbs. 184,283. tape, fan belts, auto & balata
Spun rayon yarn 84,07l lbs. 52,168. belting, hose & tubing, pack-
Nylon yarn 4 lbs. 33. ing, mats, flooring, etc. 65,472,339 lbs. 28,887,600.
Wool cloth & dress goods 95,384,022 lbs. 192,642,856. Rubber manufactures, n.e.s. -- 1,672,246.
Wool blankets 5,242,637 lbs. 7,472,329. Synthetic rubber 362,839 lbs. 125,943.
Wool knit apparel, n.e.s. 203 lbs. 450,304. Latex & other forms of rubber
Hair & felt manufactures, n.e.s. 18,432 lbs. 2,750. compounded for mfr. l,117,278 lbs. 366,413.
Wool or mohair manufactures, Hard rubber electrical goods,
n.e.s -- 208,013. n.e.s. 680,653 lbs. 803,345.
Wool men'a overcoats, suits & Truck & bus casings 3,502,736 92,466,132.
pants 188,611 3,169,329. Solid tires for automobiles &
Fur felt hats, men's & boys' 50 3l4. trucks l3,574 lbs. 378,643.
Wool fabrics, n.e.s. 408,827 lbs. 679,076. Tire sundries & repair materials,
Linoleum 121,019 sq. yd. 64,152. excl. camelback 2,020,571 lbs. 1,635,739.
Clothing, nurses -- ll,78l. Casings & tubes excl. automobile 749,056 7,595,759.
Clothing, gas protective -- 4,102. automobile casings, excl. truck &
Felt base floor coverings 114,797 sq. yd. 58,45l. bus 2,701,081 lbs. 6,659,880.
Oilcloth, shelf, table & wall 1,015,886 sq. yd. 352,319. automobile inner tubes 2,693,162 6,485,611.
Waterproof outer garments 176,962 7l0,l29. Camelback 206,472 lbs. 52,290.
Cements 7l8,894 lbs. l,016,937.


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COTTONS COTTONS, continued
Cotton gauze & sterile bandage Cotton heavy filter, hose, belting
absorbent cotton 428,391 lbs. $ 330,025. duck 70,229 sq. yd. $ 52,072.
Blankets 23l,905 723,463. Cotton ounce duck l5,944,996 sq. yd. 9,634,702.
Cotton fabric napped, excl. flannel 277,218 sq. yd. l30,803. Cotton sewing thread 3,282,633 lbs. 4,304,611.
Cotton denims 8,536,926 sq. yd. 2,240,504. Cotton carded yarn, gray 165,389 lbs. 91,041.
Cotton drill, twill, etc. 70,290,453 sq. yd. 35,769,818. Cotton aheets & pillow cases 154,072 doz. 1,796,315.
Cotton sheeting 11,748,l89 sq. yd. 2,299,442. Cotton rags, excl. paper stock 3,506 lbs. 192.
Cotton fabric apparel women Cotton chscl. & gauze blch. dyed 156,637 sq. yd. 22,036.
children, n.e.s. 73,l85 lbs. 74,091. Curtain draperies & cotton house
Cotton goods, combed, carded, furnishings, n.e.s. -- 210,853.
n.e.s. 52,362 sq. yd. 6,137. Huck damask plain twils. twling. -- 176,893.
Bags of jute 5,538 lbs. 1,416. Cotton msnufactures, n.e.s. -- 2,891,764.
Sisal, sunn, etc., twine & cordage l0,879,108 lbs. 1,887,935. Cotton printcloth, bleached 1,67,468 sq. yd. 295,757.
Manila cordage 15,454 lbs. 5,364. Cotton soft wastes, n.e.s. 4,410 lbs. 336.
Cotton underwear, men's 101,302 doz. 844,092. Cut card yarn blch. col. nov. 77,288 lbs. 45,985.
Cotton flannels, blch. or col. 4,504,083 sq. yd. 765,934. Cotton hard waste yarn thread 32,407 lbs. 3,877.
Cotton work gloves, mittens, Cotton table damask, in the pc. 111,470 sq. yd. 5,089.
gauntlets & hosiery 34,526 doz. pr. l28,589. Cotton sweatera, pullovers, etc.,
Cotton men'a jackets & wind- men's 1,500 2,520.
breakers 18,0l7 96,244. Cotton print cl. yarn fab. over
Cotton cloth, gray 289,688 sq. yd. 45,068. 36x32 ct. 737,219 sq. yd. 100,370.
Cotton twine, rope & cordage, Cotton remnants, n.e.s. 17,550 lbs. 9,803.
excl. tire 1,355,256 lbs. 706,488. Cotton pile fabrics, n.e.s. 500 sq. yd. 425.
Cotton fabrics, col. yarn, n.e.s. 3,759,396 sq. yd. 858,647. Cotton knit fabrics, in the pc. 573,757 lbs. 616,04l.
Cotton duck & awning materials 3,837,445 sq. yd. 3,810,789. Cotton narrow fabrics, n.e.s. -- 231,525.
Cotton men's work clothing, n.e.s. 61,247 doz. 967,457. Cotton woven belting for machines 396,038 lbs. l87,474.
Cotton men's clothing of woven Cotton braids, bindings,etc. -- 7,006,954.
fabrics, n.e.s. 8,887 doz. 255,660. Cotton bags, new 365,359 lbs. 182,892.


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WOOD & WOOD PRODUCTS WOOD & WOOD PRODUCTS, continued
Boards, doug. fir, dress, scantlings 39 M bd.ft. $20,625. Filing folders, cards & other office
Furniture, chief value wood, n.e.s. -- 8,486. forms 37,500 lbs. $ 10,619.
Handles for striking tools 4,762 doz. 9,457. Writing paper 18,603,029 lbs. 3,128,385.
Millwork house fixtures, n.e.s. -- 1,139. Vulcanized fiber sheets, etc. 10,044,901 lbs. 2,454,153.
Oars & paddles, boat 20,934 32,75l. Papeteries 2,675 lbs. 296.
Wood manufactures, n.e.s. -- 248,609. Paper & paper products, n.e.s. -- 385,871.
Wood lath 39 M 4,220. Paper bags, excl. heavy shipping 210 lbs. l9.
Art cork, block, gaskets, etc. 869 lbs. l,964. Paper cash-register, adding machine 227,145 lbs. 61,657.
Cork balls, bobbers, buoys, etc. 1,129 lbs. 602. Paper boxes & cartons, n.e.s. 1,236 lbs. 373.
Natural cork manufactures, n.e.s. 4,726 lbs. 7,870.
Cork, wood or bark, unmfrd. 38,544 lbs. 6,225. CHEMICALS
Paper, newsprint 27,439 lbs. 907. Acetic acid 132,934 lbs. 27,505.
Furniture, wood, n.e.s, cov. upholstery -- 82. acetone 26,834,746 lbs. 2,275,677.
Paper, book, not coated 1,093,888 lbs. l70,581. Acetophenetindine 26,815 21,074.
Paper, wrapping, excl. Kraft 793,154 lbs. l19,873. Acetylsadicylic acid (aspirin)
Paper, cover 72,242 lbs. 7,458. tablet -- 475.
Paper, greaseproof, waterproof 8,373,322 lbs. l,333,992. Acetylsalicylic acid in bulks 44,578 lbs. l49,358.
Paper, surface coated, n.e.s. 250,060 lbs. 109,101. Acrylonitrile 2,345 lbs. 1,055.
Cigarette paper, cigarette books, Alchohols, n.e.s. 701,408,317 lbs. 94,941,346.
cover 2,043,178 lbs. 1,070,771. Alcohol, denatured, solidified 1,822,55l lbs. 188,032.
Tissue paper & crepe, n.e.s. 571,796 lbs. 421,841. Aluminum compounds, n.e.s. 1,082 lbs. 62l.
Bristols & bristol board 68,864 lbs. 7,939. Aluminum chloride, anhydrous 158,661 lbs. 14,845.
Paper, Kraft wrapping 343,982 lbs. 39,383. Ammonium compounds, n.e.s. -- 105,775.
Paper, toilet 92 lbs. 1l. Amonia, anhydrous 459,811 lbs. 95,911.
Paper, board, n.e.s. l80,9l4 lbs. 18,695. Ammonia, aqua 3,998 lbs. 3l8.
Fiber insulation board 248,891 sq. ft. 53,666, Ammonium bicarbonate 100 lbs. 13.
Paper sheathing & building 327,000 lbs. 7,909. Ammonium carbonate 2,58l lbs. 1,250.
Box board, n.e.s. 147,157 lbs. 6,094. Ammonium chloride 302,100 lbs. 15,507.
Blotting paper 10,868 lbs. 6,835. Ammonium nitrate 4,113,567 lbs. 492,096.


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CHEMICALS, continued
Amyl acetate 56,890 lbs. $ 8,543.
aniline oil 7,009,316 lbs. 962,718.
Antimony salts & compounds,
n.e.s. 122 lbs. 530.
Acetic anhydride 438,720 lbs. 40,749.
Acids & anhydrides, n.e.s. 1,026,661 lbs. 123,126.
acids & anhydrides, inorganic,
n.e.s. 659,134 lbs. 126,406.
Arsenious oxide 50,824 lbs. 50,814.
Baking powder 54 lbs. 12.
Benzocaine, benzoate, etc. 25,453 lbs. 129,038.
Benzoic acid tech. & med. gr. 9,803 lbs. 4,284.
Benzol or benzene 1,634 gal. 878.
Bleaching powder 30,730 lbs. 2,131.
Boric acid 1,838,257 lbs. 94,953.
Bromine, bromide, bromates, nes 169,101 lbs. 76,784.
Buna, S 17,967,832 lbs. 6,426,372.
Butanol 14,384,133 lbs. 3,039,314.
Butyl acetate 11,193,203 lbs. 2,147,276.
Calcium nitrate 4,940 lbs. 1,745.
Caesium salts & compounds 22 lbs. 2,300.
Caffein 82,422 lbs. 212,018.
Caffein salts & compounds 52,225 lbs. 194,129.
Calcium carbide 1,696,791 lbs. 93,114.
Calcium chloride 1,747,249 lbs. 21,981.
Campher, natural, synthetic 3,224,821 lbs. 1,373,382.
Carbon, black or gas black 5,065,003 lbs. 312,866.
Carbon tetrachloride 109,788 lbs. 8,445.
Carbons, animal charcoal, n.e.s. 27,234 lbs. 3,312.




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CHEMICALS, continued
Casein 148,364 lbs. 54,230.
Castor oil 240 gals. 458.
Cellulose-acetate flake, etc, 5,117 lbs. 2,123.
Cellulose acetate sheets, etc. 285,270 lbs. 245,676.
Cellulose plastic mold comp, 1,359 lbs. 812.
Cellulose plastic film support 225,992 lbs. 249,480.
Cementing preparations, n.e.s. 312,081 lbs. 22,750.
Chemical specialty compouads, n.e.s. -- 2,315,756.
Chemical pigments, n.e.s 92,583 lbs. 34,817.
Cements for sealing cans 224,775 lbs. 40,807.
Chlorine 2,000 lbs. 400.
Chrome pigments 51,426 lbs. 11,746.
Chromic acid 50,989 lbs. 8,759.
Chromium salts & compounds
n.e.s. 150,000 lbs. 34,805.
Citric acid 2,138,555 lbs. 715,641.
Cleaning & washing compounds
specialty 39,729 lbs. 6,495.
Coaltar acids, n.e.s. 101,428 lbs. 31,211.
Coaltar colors, dyes, stains & color
lakes 2,627,410 lbs. 1,108,534.
Coaltar dyes, n.e.s. 407,184 lbs. 489,258.
Coaltar, crude 17,203,267 lbs. 694,768.
Coaltar intermediates, n.e.s. 6,703,480 lbs. 1,938,035.
Coaltar products, finished, 1,790,573 lbs. 1,498,912.
Color lakes and toners 23,147 lbs. 17,719.
Copper salts & compounds, n.e.s. 42,875 lbs. 32,659.
Copper sulphate 230,140 lbs. 12,557.
Creslyc acid & creols 340,677 lbs. 53,108.


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CHEMICALS, continued
Cupric oxide 4,194 lbs. $ 1,105.
Dental creams 78 lbs. 68.
Dextrine or British gum 18,100 lbs. 989.
Dibutyl & diethylphtalate, etc. 12,497,577 lbs. 2,755,992.
Dimethylaniline 4,350,417 lbs. 957,918.
Diphenylamine 3,130,720 lbs. 690,908.
Disinfectants, household & Indus-
trial, etc. 603,451 lbs. 132,895.
Dyeing, tanning extracts, n.e.s. 9,672 lbs. 7,648.
Elixirs, liquid solutions, n.e.s. ---- 6,758.
Ester gums 60,000 lbs. 14,127.
Ethyl acetate 12,419,432 lbs. 1,632,875.
Ethyl ether 2,288 lbs. 502.
Ethyl fluid 558,766 gals. 2,055,864.
Ethylene chlorhydrene 301,860 gals. 63,465.
Ethylene dibromide 3,734,900 gals. 720,128.
Ethylene glycol 43,319,367 gals 5,124,760.
Ethylene glycol 3,174,020 gals. 343,554.
Fish oils & concentrates 744,200 gals. 3,372,847.
Flavoring extracts, natural 1,162 gals. 17,127.
Flavoring extracts, synthetic 4,865 gals. 29,075.
Flavor & perfume mat., synthetic,
n.e.s. 280,750 lbs. 290,587.
Floor wax & polishes for wood
furn. 151 gals. 48.
Formaldehyde, 40% solution 192 gals. 27.
Frierfsyl phosphate 26,248 gals. 6,693.
Gaseous refrigerants, n.e.s. 20,849 gals. 5,802.
Gases, liquefied & solid. n.e.s. 412,381 gals. 297,233.




Part B Quantity Cost in dollars
Item


CHEMICALS, continued
Gases, lung irritant, n.e.s 5,190 lbs. 8,261.
Gases, screening smoke 110,215 lbs. 7,930.
Glandular products, etc. --- 944,747.
Glycerin 4,794,752 lbs. 1,001,189.
Glycerin, 100% glyerol basis 25,976,878 lbs. 4,639,518.
Helius gas 56,640 cu.ft. 948.
Hexamethylene tetramine 25,447,742 lbs. 5,364,296.
Hydrochloric acid 192,505 lbs. 12,499.
lndustrial chemicals, n.e.s. --- 2,810,455.
Insecticides, etc., household & in-
dustrial 12 lbs. 2.
Iodine, n.e.s. 15 lbs. 32.
Iridium salts & compounds 1 lbs. 124.
Indigo, synthetic 4,489 lbs. 3,453.
Kalsomine o.c.w. paints, dry 34,236 lbs. 11,786.
Lacquers, nitrocell clear 13,598 lbs. 27,050.
Lacquers, nitrocell pigmented 2,276 lbs. 3,335.
Lampblack 89,753 lbs. 8,434.
Licorice extract & mass ---- lbs. 12.
Litharge 9,704 lbs. 1,567.
Liquid gum inhibitors --- 87,002.
Logwood extract 42,620 lbs. 9,211.
Manganese chloride 11 lbs. 8.
Manganese salts & compounds, 10 lbs. 13.
n.e.s.
Medical chemicals, bousehbold, ln
small pkgs., liquids 449.
Medicinal chemicals, household,
in small pkgs, solids ---- 7,008.


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CHEMICALS, continued CHEMICALS, continued
Medicinal chemicals for Prescrip- Ocher, umber & iron oxide, n.e.s. l22,557 lbs. $ 5,366.
tion use n.e.s. -- $ 7,763,950. Organic chemicals, n.e.s. 8,100,468 lbs. 4,197,742.
Mercuric chloride 465 lbs. l,l62. Oxalic acid 23,450 2,726.
Mercury salts & compounds, n.e.s. 570 lbs. 1,308. Paints, bitimious liquid plastic -- 188,2?4.
Metal working compounds l,357,724 lbs. 189,152. Paints, colors, paste, oil, n.e.s. 2,341,892 lbs. 279,679.
Methanol 4,830,148 gal. 1,526,629. Paints, etc., ready mixed, n.e.s. 176,211 gal. 298,321.
Methanol l,256,097 lbs. 59l,856. Phenol, carbolic acid 17,906,825 lbs. 9,755,822.
Methyl ethyl ketone 70 lbs. 27. Phenolformaldehyde fab. mold 26,635 lbs. 24,369.
Methylmethacrylt forms, not laminated749,503 lbs. 709,899. Phenolformaldehyde forms, lam. 1,690 lbs. 7,162.
Methyl methacrylate molded 24,858 lbs. 23,930. Phenolformaldehyde resins 999,930 lbs. 151,800.
Methyl methacrylatc not molded 71,3l0 lbs. 59,682. Phosphoric acid 248,655 lbs. 63,446.
Methyl methacrylate, unfabricated 107,823 lbs. l01,825. Phosphorous, elemental 1,174,524 lbs. 180,796.
Mineral oil, white 15,050 gal. 5,289. Phthalic anhydride 134,400 lbs. 18,145.
Molybdenum trioxide 300 lbs. 529. Petroleum oil sprays, agricultural 832 ga1s. 986.
Nanillin, all types 2,300 lbs. 4,986. Picric acid 3,309,490 lbs. 715,942.
Naphthalene 22 lbs. 6. Pigments, mineral earth, n.e.s. 2,160 lbs. 39.
Napthol & flakes, beta 275,840 lbs. 64,246. Plasters n.e.s. -- 90,325.
Nickel salts & compounds, n.e.s. 100,100 lbs. 35,036. Polyisobutylene 118,600 lbs. 48,386.
Nickel chloride 660 lbs. 660. Polymers, etc, fabricated & un-
Nickel oxide 1,100 lbs. 386. fabricated 3,046,893 948,982.
Nickel sulfate 22,000 lbs. 2,970. Polymers of styrene, etc. 135,949 lbs. 95,996.
Nicotine sulfate l68 bls. 140. Polishes, automobile 480 lbs. 75.
Nitric acid 52,117 lbs. 7,433. metal and stove 4,650 lbs. 500.
Nitrocell solution not over 12% nit. 51,215 lbs. 37,143. Potassium compounds, n.e.s. 696,938 lbs. 183,666.
Nitrocell solution, over 12% nit. 93,791 lbs. 24,189. Potassium bicarbonate & mix. 81,817 lbs. 8,182.
Nitro derivatives of benzene, etc. 760,330 lbs. 109,083. Potassiun bichromate chromate 2,084,471 lbs. 257,7l7.
Nitrogen, chemical materials, nes. 1,191,757 lbs. 38,887. Potassium bitartrate & mix. 4 lbs. 3.
Nylon 250 lbs. 138. Potassium bromine 85,583 lbs. 22,515.
Potassium bromide 369,702 lbs. 80,817.
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Item Quantity Cost in Dollars
CHEMlCALS, continued
Potassium carbonate & mix. 1,568,116 lbs. $ 104,550. CHEMICALS, continued
Potassium chlorate & mix. 2,013,317 lbs. 213,665. Resins, urea 50,001 lbs. $ 21,525.
Potassium chromium sulfate 150,000 lbs. 19,454.
Potassium cyanide & mix. 18,640 1bs. 11,001. Rhodium salts & compounds l lbs. 165.
Potassium hydroxide 471,082 1bs. 67,985. Rochelle salts 400 lbs. 290.
Potassium nitrate pp May 1, 1937 1,302,462 lbs. 88,369. Rubber compound agents, n.e.s. 845,885 lbs. 371,990.
Potassium nitrate, n.e.s. 3,778,284 lbs. 254,842. Rubber compounding agents 998,237 lbs. 437,886.
Potassium permanganate & mix. 228,864 lbs. 43,907. Salicylic acid tech. & med. 215,800 lbs. 57,395.
Potassium sulfate 290,125 lbs. 40,496. Salves, ointments, burns, etc. -- 44,463.
Proprietary medicinal prepara- Serums, antitoxins, human use -- 2,109,323.
tions, n.e.s. -- 802,922. Scouring bricks, paste, etc. 74,060 lbs. 13,605.
Pyroxylin plastic film support 383,628 lbs. 300,881. Soda lime 7 lbs. 3.
Pyroxylin sheets, rods, etc. 439,095 lbs. 321,928. Sodium benzoate tech & med. 4,523 lbs. 2,095.
Photographic chem. coaltar 5,235 lbs. 7,448. Sodium bicarbonate 31,008 lbs. 2,151.
Phenolphthalein 326 lbs. 347. Sodium bichromate & chromate 3,173,204 lbs. 233,509.
Quinine salts, n.e.s. 17,750 oz. 15,946. Sodium bromide 1,050,l12 lbs. 281,530.
Quinine salts, compounds, n.e.s. 185 oz. 817. Sodium carbonate calcined 4,380,285 lbs. 87,292.
Reagent chemicals for laboratory use -- 143,513. Sodium chlorate 600 lbs. 450.
Reagents, synthetic collecting 6,870,336 lbs. 1,370,859.
Remedies, malaria, etc., n.e.s. -- 117,276. Sodium compounds, n.e.s. 2,754,447 lbs. 272,651.
Red lead, dry 253,000 lbs. 23,813. Sodium cyanide 1,960,250 lbs. 198,119.
Red lead, in oil 440,682 lbs. 46,430. Sodium hydrosulphite & compounds 391,650 lbs. 9,401.
Resins, alkyd 1,458 lbs. 427. Sodium hydroxide 195,405,715 lbs. 4,024,739.
Resins, gums, synthetics, n.e.s. 335,903 lbs. 89,056. Sodium nitrate ll May l, l937 52,700 lbs. 3,531.
Resins, synthetic, n.e.s, forms Sodium phosphate 50,125 lbs. 3,294.
laminated 68,367 lbs. 59,602. Sodium silicate 35,104 lbs. l,3l3.
Resins, synthetic, n.e.s., forms, Sodium tetraborate 52,393 lbs. 4,182.
non-laminated 185,968 lbs. 180,555. Starch 48 lbs. 4.
Resins, tar-acid, n.e.s. 580,014 lbs. 156,086. Strontium nitrate 23,275 lbs. 6,793.
Strontium oxylate 14,000 lbs. 9,892.
Strychnine & salts thereof 950 oz. 953.
Sulfanilamide 27,195 lbs. 28,303.
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CHEMICALS, contined CHEMlCALS, continued
Sulfathiazole & derivatives 4,300 lbs. $ 30,272. Whiterite l1,200 lbs. $ 336.
Sulfadiazine & derivatives 7,971 lbs. 92,065. Xylene, xylol 5,737 lbs. 1,600.
Sulfonamide drugs, n.e.s. l19 lbs. 510. Zinc oxide 32,629 lbs. 3,305.
Sulphuric acid, fuming 2l8,488 lbs. 19,392. Zinc salts & compunds, n.e.s. 7,705 lbs. 6,683.
Sulphuric acids, n.e.s. 900,908 lbs. 62,197. Zinc sulfate 28 lbs. 8.
Tablets, powders, ointments, n.e.s. -- l,777,286.
Tantalum salts & compounds 550 lbs. 901. LEATHER GOODS
Tartaric acid 246 lbs. 201. Wearing apparel 1,333 3,235,486.
Textile specialty compounds, n.e.s. 11,343 lbs. 5,632. Boots & shoes, men's 5,396,651 pr. 22,773,758.
Theobromine & salts & compounds 59,122 lbs. 132,317. Shoes, infants, children 45,373 pr. 50,781.
Theophylline salts thereof 64 oz. 28. Boots & shoes, youths & boys,
Thickol 2,022 lbs. 1.001. women & misses 150,297 pr. 499,020.
Thinners for nitrocell lacquer 7,042 gal. 7,466. Footwear, leather sole & upper 1,356,395 pr. 5,687,539.
Tin chloride 77 lbs. 95. Leather, calf & Kid skin 5,381,631 sq.ft.1,645,944.
Tin oxide 1,000 lbs. 520. Leacher, upper, n.e.s. 21,272,175 sq.ft.6,6l3,801.
Titanium dioxide & pigments 20 lbs. 2. Leather, for soles 51,918,361 lbs. 23,507,190.
Toluene, toluol l9,986,672 lbs. 12,116,708. Sole leather, beads,back&sides l6,848,339 lbs. 7,841,336.
Tungsten acid 2,250 lbs. 6,886. Leather, for soles, outer 5,736,567 dozpr23,003,594.
Urea 21,000 lbs. 916. Leather, cut stock, excl. outer sole -- 5,705,334.
Vaccines, human use 13,035 lbs. 800,497. Discontinued models old styles &
Vanadium oxide -- 21,197. second-hand shoes -- l28,472.
Vanadium salts & compounds, n.e.s 4,944 lbs. 24,743. Leader case bag & strap 345,147 sq. ft. 152,767.
Vanadium sulfide 1 lb. 10. Leacher belting, new 361,902 lbs. 438,042
Vanillin 28,352 lbs. 64,331. Belting leather, n.e.s. l18,562 lbs. 66,135.
Varnishes 52,327 gal. 82,314. Belts to be worn, leather -- 1,595,893.
Vitamins & vitasterols, n.e.s. 2,285,641 lbs. 22,454,053. Sole & belting leather offal, shldr.
Water softeners, etc. 2,630,l5l lbs. 277,264. neck, belly 2,802,385 lbs. 1,080,089.
White lead dry 34,823 lbs. 3,527. Leather, cattle side 10,096,372sq.ft 3,021,723.
White lead, in oil 1,568,542 lbs. 135,947. Coat & kid, excl. bl. 428,870 sq.ft. 132,942.


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Item
Quantity Cost in Dollars
LEATHER GOODS. continued FOODSTUFFS, continued
Leather lining, ex. sh. & lamb 125 $ 94. Milk & cream condensed 60,019,643 lbs. $ 9,027,160.
Leather & tanned skins, n.e. s. -- 491,068. Milk & cream evaporated 8,942,706 lbs. 4,905,667.
Leather manufactures, n.e.s. -- 14,866. Milk, dried whole skimmed 159,921,528 lbs. 30,804,571.
Luggage 82 858. Butter 217,660,666 lbs. 103,673,250.
Fur manufactures, n.e.s. -- 4,75O. Butter oil, & butter spreads 7,1ll,737 lbs. 4,168,845.
Oleo oil, edible, oleo stock, edible
POODSTUFFS tallow, edible, lard, incl. neutral,
Meat, canned, n.e.s. 72,000 lbs. 25,762. oleomargarine 791,822,417 lbs. 124,387,146.
Poultry, live 6,300 lbs. 7,384.
Beef & veal, fresh or frozen 89,238 lbs. 13,786. Cheese, processed blended spreads,
Beef & veal, pickled or cured 32,400 lbs. 6,383. cheese, n.e.s. 79,926,896 lbs. 2,904,957.
Pork, pickled, salted, fresh, Gelatin, edible 18,690 lbs. 16,653.
frozen 529,814,747 lbs. 77,010,566. Meat extract & bouillon cubes 685 lbs. 1,185.
Ham & shoulders, cured 27,355,903 lbs. 8,794,783. Other edible animal products, n.e.s. -- 222,593.
Bacon 70,531,571 lbs. 11,790,369. infants' foods, malted milk, etc. 115,663 lbs. 21,022.
Cumber1and & Willshlre sides 40,000 lbs. 10,400. Barley 477,30l bu. 707,672.
Sausage, bologna, etc., not canned 1,301,439 lbs. 477,075. buckwheat 5,744 bu. 17,446.
Sausage ingredients, cured 573,031 lbs. 82,876. Corn 30,429 bu. 194,230.
Meats, n.e.s. includ. snoked Hominy & corn grits 1,645,02l bu. 45,600.
poultry 33,610,181 lbs. 16,130,915. Kafir & milo 142 bu. 870.
Beef, canned 16,710,448 lbs. 4,735,745. Oats 120,830 bu. 91,231.
Pork, canned 297,186,838 lbs. 123,784,465. Oatmeal groats & rolled oats in
Sausage, bologna, etc., canned 583,479,422 lbs. 204,150,308. bulk, in packages 50,539,897 lbs. 2,220,748.
Chicken, canned 109,793 lbs. 46,879. Cornstarch & corn flour 478,692 lbs. 36,663.
Other canned meats, excl. chicken 2,405,696,825 lbs. 180,764,722. Paddy or rough rice 9,089,681 lbs. 478,984.
Tushenka, canned 166,650,966 lbs. 70,335,231. Milled rice, incl. browa rice,
Fish, canned 291,227 lbs. 41,882. broken, etc. 126,387,202 1bs. 7,893,998.
Eggs dried 242,459,249 lbs. 280,800,963. Rye 10,268 bu. 36,300.
Eggs in the shell 1,883 doz. 4,038. Wheat 1,512,973 bu. 2,119,872.
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FOODSTUFFS, continued FOODSTUFFS, continued
Wheat flour, wholly of U.S. wheat 7,806,589 bar. $34,527,968. Oranges, tangerines, & grapefruit 810 boxes $ 4,884.
Marcaroni, spaghetti, etc. 353,224 lbs. 53,103. Pears, fresh or frozen 750 boxes 75.
Wheat cereal foods, ready to eat 171,734 lbs. 19,088. Sugar 1,019,602,323 boxes 59,128,817.
Wheat cereal foods, to be cooked 1,496,043 lbs. 100,795. Honey 29,693 lbs. 10,770.
Wheat semolina 57,869,814 lbs. 2,514,115. Molasses 18 gals. 14.
Cereal foods, n.e.s. 15,613,037 lbs. 1,462,l45. Glucose, dry 35,1l0 lbs. 3,686.
Grains & preparations, n.e.s. -- 4,199,246. Coffee, roasted 1,055,552 lbs. 354,612.
Feeds, n.e.s. 11,053 tons 7l4,120. Coffee extracts & substitutes 15,782 lbs. 4,9l9.
Beans, dry, ripe 492,521,079 lbs. 30,353,423. Cbocolate candy, candy excl. choco-
Beans, seed 11,974,704 lbs. 2,353,676. late, confections, n.e.s. 946,464 lbs. l96,927.
Peas, dry, ripe 59,116,953 lbs. 3,423,782. Chocolate & cocoa 62,696 lbs. 16,121.
Peas, seed 16,324,197 lbs. 1,863,607. Cinnamon, clovca, uaground spices,
Chickpeas 80,000 lbs. 6,557. pepper 596,861 lbs. l30,824.
Onions, fresh 661,932 lbs. 43,157. Fruit juices 724,234 gals. 1,537,036.
Tomatoes, fresh 126 lbs. 12. Canned fruits 92,454 lbs. 10,839.
Potatoes, fresh white 4,919,062 lbs. 227,601. Fruit preparations, n.e.s. l2,060,382 lbs. 342,861.
Vegetables, fresh, n.e.s. 169,212. Preserved fruits, jelles & jams 6,858,277 lbs. 392,757.
Canned vegetables & juices 33,339,138 lbs. 3,491,283. Dried & evaporated fruits 4,372,578 lbs. 780,880.
Pickles, cucumber 136,021 lbs. 27,174. Vegetables, dehydrated-other
Tomato table sauces 636 lbs. 133. preparations 43,590,879 lbs. 28,79l,213.
Mayonnaise & salad-dressings, Nuts & preparations, n.e.s. 6,056,758 lbs. l,0l5,846.
sauces 52,261 lbs. 10,333. Biscuits & crackers 89 lbs. 30.
Olives 71 lbs. 33. Corn cereal food, ready to eat 83 lbs. 22.
Vinegar 128,890 gals. 112,459. Farinaceous substances 30 lbs. 8.
Yeast l,590,587 lbs. 504,036. Edible oils & cooking fats 235,115,716 lbs. 37,996,411.
Pineapples 26 boxes 2l1. Soya flour, edible 103,772,226 lbs. 1,718,512.
Vanilla beans 730 boxes 7,102. Wheat flour, wholly of U.S. wheat 2,050,6l3 cwt. 8,276,256.
Apples 3,653 boxes 15,423. Beverages, syrup & flavors 286 gals. 433.
Lemmons & limes 595 boxes 4,969. Banana, fresh 40,136 lbs. 2,571.


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Item Quantity Cost in Dollars Item Quantity Cost in Dollars
FOODSTUFFS, continued OILS, RESINS, ETC., continued
Sunflower seed, oil, edible 11,685,500 lbs. $ 1,909,663. Oil of citronella 1,000 lbs. $ 3,750.
Tea 311,913 lbs. 229,716. Oils, natural, essential & distilled, n.e.s 7,268 lbs. 46,767.
Coffee, green 6,598,709 lbs. 94l,969. Oils, blended, etc. perfume flav. 9,600 lbs. 52,500.
Qusbracbo extract 32,033 lbs. 2,979.
SEEDS Crude drugs, herbs, etc, n.e.s. 153,198 lbs. 90,369.
Grass & field, n.e.s. 12,154,637 lbs. 2,085,546. Fish oils, inedible 446,021 lbs. 95,594.
Timothy 4,l27,285 lbs. 396,567. Oleic acid or red oil 1,400 lbs. 136.
Alfalfa 459,851 lbs. 190,945. Hog grease & wool grease l45,387 lbs. 40,679.
Red clover 1,298,906 lbs. 372,281. Animal greases, fats, inedible, n.e.s. 718,474 lbs. 93,968.
Clover, excl. red 1,094,148 lbs. 269,287. Glue, animal, excl. casein 18,069 lbs. 1,650.
Red top 277,0l3 lbs. 123,282. Cascien glue & inedible 2,905,592 lbs. 611,693.
Kentucky blue grass 475,438 lbs. 197,765. Pine, oil pine, oil prod., etc. 92,080 lbs. 101,082.
Carrot 1,985,485 lbs. 2,030,066. Tar & pitch of wood 500 lbs. 3l.
Vegetable, n.e.s. l1,651,470 lbs. 11,665,584. Expressed oils & fats, inedible, n.e.s. 82,036,224 lbs. l1,173,362.
Sugar beet 90,506 lbs. 53,322. Wood rosin bbl. 500 lbs. gr. wht. 18 lbs. 1.
Digitalis 22,135 lbs. 14,164. Rosin, n.e.s. 200 lbs. 18.
Soy Beans 669,841 lbs. 65,823. Gums & resons, n.e.s. 44,132 lbs. 14,430.
Reeds, hemp, perilla, poppy,etc l,094,976 lbs. 319,004. Resins, natural, refined or modified 35,342 lbs. 19,768.
Nursery greenhouse stock, n.e.s. 7,867. Shellac bleached & unbleached 4,998 lbs. 3,037.
Animal products, indible, n.e.s. -- 810,978.


OILS, RESINS, ETC,
linseed oil, crude 530,771,576 lbs. 78,2l3,761. GENERATlNG EQUIPMENT
Cottonseed oil, crude 2,524,536 lbs. 413,457. Batteries 1,755,640 4,278,997.
Tung oil 75 lbs. 7l. Batteries, storage, flashlight, dry mul-
Soybean oil, crude 8,260,581 lbs. 1,084,986. tiple cell 3,7l1,893 cel. 4,957,434.
Caster oil, commercial 1,483 lbs. 257. Battery chargers, complete non-rotating 2,748 335,296.
Vegetable oil, excl. olive 1,346,195 lbs. 175,057. Capacitors 1/2 kva & over 2,269 185,216.
Coconut oil, crude 75 lbs. l5. Condensers, heaters, acc. & parts -- l2,924,077.
Citrus oils 93,200 lbs. 139,485. Electric generateing sets, Diesel engines 6,285 62,538,679.


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Item Quantity Cost in Dollars Item Quantity Cost in Dollars
GENERATING EQUIPMENT, continued PHOTOGRAPHIC SUPPLIES, continued
Generators 6,214 $ 222,020,760. Parts for printing, etc. -- S 5,279.
Generator accessories & parts, n.e.s. -- l1,728,204. Film, sensitized, 35 mm pos. -- 178,001.
Self-contained lighting outfits, n.e.s. l,862 1,192,713. Film, sensitized, 35 mm neg. 2,811,545 lin.ft. 59,007.
Power transformers, over 500 kva 696 6,161,470. Film, sensitized, 16 mm pos. l,103,000 lin.ft. l0,755.
Distribution tranaformers, not over Film, sensitized, 16 mm neg. 335,464 lin.ft. 4,715.
500 kva 1,297 l,094,50l. Film, sensitized, 8 mm neg. 6,500 lin.ft. 260.
Instrument transformers 753 70.965. Motion picture sound reproduction
Transformers, n.e.s. 24,248 1,182,489. equipment -- 24,156.
Mercury power rectifiers 484 438,774. Motion picture rolls, sensitized 67,560 927,370.
Rotating converters 13,784 l8,178,498. Motion picture sound track, ex-
Steam turbine generator sets 991 63,860,334. posed neg. 8,000 lin.ft. 80.
Welding sets 4,689 7,309,158. Motion picture sound track, ex-
posed pos. 8,274 lin.ft. 165.
PHOTOGRAPHIC SUPPLIES Dry plates 1,462 doz. 6,273.
Cameras, motion picture, 35 mm 4 7,656. Motion picture features, 34 mm. ex
Cameras, aerial, excl. aircraft 28 38,366. posed 84,566 lin.ft. 40,010.
Cameras, aerial, aircraft 20 6,931. Motion picture features, 16 mm 20,836 lin.ft. 20,836.
Cameras, prof. scientific, etc. 55 35,527. positive
Cameras, gun 3 1,700. Notion picture sbort subjects,
Cameras, excl. motion picture, n.e.s. 178 4,651. 35 mm 336,000 lin.ft. $ 2,5O0.
Parts of cameras, excl. lenses -- l49,476. Motion picture sbort subjects
Motion picture sound recording 16 mm 27,328 lin.ft. 3,028.
equipment -- 112,443. Motion picture short subjects
Projectors, motion picture, 33 mm. 15 5,058. 35 mm 429,300 lin.ft. 5,466.
Projectors, motion picture, 16 mm Motion picture trailers 256 lin.ft. 29.
silent 8 2,400. Film X-ray, sensitized 30,874 l82,988.
Projectors, motion picture, l6 mm Film X-ray, packs of sheets 370
sound 8 4,973. Photographic paper 752,752 lbs. 557,936.
Screens, motion picture -- 24,762. Photographic supplies -- 3,735,191.


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Item Quantity Cost in Dollars Item Quantity Cost in Dollars
PHOTOGRAPHIC SUPPLIES, continued MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS, continued
Carbon brushes & stock 150,144 lbs. $ 451,777. Neon tubes electrode sections -- $ 1,547.
Carbon electrodes, n.e.s. -- 69,879. Diamonds for industrial use
Cement, white, nonstain & other 576 bbl. 5,298. (carat) 168 1,284.
Diamond grinding wheels 285 lbs. 55,780.
Electric apparatus & parts, n.e.s. -- 5,981.840.
ITEMS LISTED AS "MISCELLANEOUS" BY RUSSIANS, WITH Electric measuring machines 220 64,107.
AND WITHOUT QUANTITlES Parts of elec. p.d portable tools -- 141,391.
Radio sets & equipment -- 52,072,805. Testing machines, tension, etc. 414 309,786.
Pottery and glass, n.e.s. 1,268,530. Parts of elec. welding sets -- 88,009.
Salt 4,413,836 lbs. 149,104. Coal, bituminous & anthracite 25,574 tons 344,686.
Fire brick, silica, n.e.s. 791,905. Typewriters & parts 273 41,133.
Binoculara, microscopes, & ac- Vehicles & parte, n.e.s. -- 127,445.
cessories 1,531,652. Winders & parts 8,470.
asbestos products 642,970. Wheelbarrows, push carts &
Carbon or graphite products 4,968,423. trucks 19,746.
Graphite, ceylon amorphous 50,108 lbs. 10,831. Roofing materials 31,349.
Graphite electrodes for furnace asphalt & bitumen manufac-
or electrolytic 21,131,124 lbs. 2,980,89l. tutes, n.e.s.
Graphite electrodes, n.e.s. 138,676. Emery powder 328,350 lbs. 32,818. 94.
Lavatory sinks, fixtures, n.e.s. 6,352. Quartz piezo el freq cont. units 210.
Marine engines, detachable 1,191 294,524. Nonmetallic mineral products,
Marine engines, n.e.s. 2,234 11,420,239. excl. precious -- 377,441.
Cars, railway, freight, over 10 Cryolite natural 23,500 lbs. 3,148.
ton 9,029 31,429,043. Magnesite brick & shapes 107,966 lbs. 4,223.
Lighting devices, battery, elec. 110,398. Mineral wax excl. paraffin 4,156,631 lbs. 545,104.
Fire-fighting equipment excl. Mica manufactures or manufac-
automotive 534,490. tures of, n.e.s. -- 93,027.
Battery, electrical 5,383. Magnesia & manufactures 177,410 lbs. 18,743.
Electric wiring supplies, etc. Mineral insulating materials -- 118,879.
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Item Quantity Cost in Dollars Item Quantity Cost in Dollars
MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS, continued MICELLANEOUS ITEMS, continued
Military items, n.e.s. -- $ l,789,005,783. Cement refractories 1,023,012 lbs $ 191,569.
Radio ground equipment, aircraft -- 4,541,082. Chromite refractories l2,800 lbs. 759.
Wheels, turbines & parts, water -- 472,245. Sterilizers l6,188 lbs. 2,107,350.
Internalcombustion engine, ac- Surgical & medical instruments -- 7,015,192.
cessories & parts -- 13,336,863. Surgical appliances -- 497,998.
Internal-combustion engines l3,191 77,610,696. Fire clay 42 tons 14,469.
Stationary motors 40,924 11,179,433. Abrasives, natural & artificial,
Terra cotta manufactures, roof-tile -- 24,798. n.e.s. -- 17,053,409.
Stone manufactures, n.e.s. -- l1,432. Surveying equipment & levels 803 191,125.
Grindstones l27,748 lbs. 48,290. Optical lenses, not fitted to in-
Equipment (R.R.) & parte, rail- struments 209 11,977.
way car -- 7,391. Excavator & construction equipment 48,569,181.
Railway parts -- 780,864. Mining & smelting equipment 66,159,901.
Railway signals -- 9,914,560. Pumps & spare parts 12,459,744.
Cars, railway, freight, not over Asbestos textiles, automotive 16,812.
10 tons 565 134,116. Merchant vessels 121 123,803,879.
Cars, railway motor maint. etc. -- 20,992. Motor trucks, buses & chassis 508,367,622.
Steam locomotives & engines 1,168 101,075,116. Tractors & parts 23,998,280.
Locomotives 117 2,624,182.
Locomotive parts & accessories -- 2,175,075. ITEMS LISTED BY RUSSIANS AS "MISCELLANEOUS" FOR 1945
Locomotive frames, cradles, etc. -- 577,427. ONLY, WITH AND WITHOUT QUANTITIES
Steam engines 66 1,532,166. Polymers of styrene, etc. 66 lbs. 50.
Steam engines, n.e.s., & parts -- 486,124. Electric wiring supplies apparatus
Steam boilers, fire, water tube 475,251 sq. ft. 1,175,338. & parts, n.e.s. 1,979,407.
Condensers, heaters, accessories Steam engines, mech. & turb. loco-
& parts -- 4,963,417. motives, parts, frames, cradles,
Tube boiler gauge glass 60 194. etc. 79,427,657.
Steam specialties & parts -- 5,077,762. Pumps, centrifugal, rotary etc. & parts 6,417,175.
Concrete and cement manufactures -- 27,051.


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Item Quantity Cost in Dollars Item Quantity Cost in Dollars
MISCELLANEOUS FOR l945 ONLY, continued MISCELLANEOUS FOR 1945 ONLY, continued


Woodworking machinery & parts $ 280,128. Explosives, sim. blast gelatine 34,000 lbs. $ 7,480.
Ball bearings, parts, except balls 206,481. Trinitrotoluene (TNT) 31,831,984 lbs. 2,653,679.
Ball bearings, parts, rollers 6,055,945. Explosives, n.e.s. 2,793,977 lbs. 446,212.
Air compressors, sta. & port. 4,139,033. Safety fuses 66,590,000 lin.ft. 650,632.
Paint spraying equipment & parts 938. Blasting caps 10,800,500 272,875.
Industrial instruments, n.e.s. 679,157. Bombers, medium, 2 engine 163 29,634,139.
Water meters & parts, n.e.s. 16,369. Bombers, light, 2 engine 97 10,854,705.
Iron & steel pipe valves, bodies, n.e.s. 6,274,655. Bombers, U.S. patrol, 2 engine 54 9,646,885.
Machines, measuring, precision, fur- Fighters, pursuit, 1 engine l,70l 101,219,909.
naces, metal-working, industrial, Transports, heavy, 2 engine 1 265,783.
parts, n.e.s. 9,200,001. Transports, medium, 2 engine 287 28,319,277.
Guns, ground tnk mach. 50 caL 1,986. Trainers, advanced, 1 engine 54 1,260,954.
Automatic arms, parts 3 178,216. Parts, accessories for bridge building 195,913.
Parts, accessories for inf. weapons 1,294. Equipment kit mess field baking 1,389.
Parts, accessories for fld. art. 66,777. Equipage military, n.e.s. 253,338.
Guns AA, 99 mm 21 3,544,847. Small arms equipment 7,275.
Anti-aircraft parts, accessories 1,139,654. Rifle parts & accessories 7,386.
Guns, airc. 20 mm, HSMl 50 45,100. Parts, fittings, parachute, n.e.s. 39,512.
Guns, airc. 37 mm, M4 63 144,562. Eng. radl. not over 1,830 pd. 154 1,156,427.
Parts, aircraft armament 599,187. Eng. radl. over 1,830 in pd. 100 2,153,461.
Parts, tank armament 207,446. Eng. not over 1,340 in pd. 19 418,000.
Parts, naval guns 181,393. Eng. not over 1,830 in pd. 537 8,504,554.
Tracers, 50 cal. 96,600 rnd. 22,702. Carb. cowls, valves, etc., aircraft 623,672.
Armor-piercing cart. 50 cal. l91,800 rnd. 33,086. Parts, aircraft engine, n.e.s. 7,092,001.
Incendiary, cart. 50 cal. 191,800 rnd. 33,086. Automatic pilots for aircraft 5 2,250.
Components for small arms, tank Aircraft gyro instr. 3 3,150.
guns, shells, etc. 6,970,174. Aircraft navig. instr. 4,402 483,354.
powder, smokeless 22,075,681 lbs. 4,757,604. Directors, n.e.s. 4 62,000.
Dynamite l0,781,450 lbs. 1,049,469. Parts for directors 95,150.


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Item Quantity Cost in Dollars Item Quantity Cost in Dollars
MlSCELLANEOUS FOR 1945 ONLY, continued MISCELLANEOUS FOR 1945 ONLY, continued
Sights, artillery 500 $447,001. Lacquers, nitrocell pigmented 396 gals. $ 851.
Sights, n.e.s. 2 243. Varnishes, oil spir. nat. syn 8,387 gala 10,99l.
Parts telescope, periscope, sights 11,711. Sodium nitrate, n.e.s. 1,049,200 lbs. 72,804.
Equipment, fire control, n.e.s. 176,673. Equipment, dairy farm -- cu1tivators,
Radio ground equipment, aircraft 6,183,340. planters, mowers, harvesters,
Navigational instruments, n.e.s. 1,638 267,743. binders, threshers, etc. 25,778.
Quadrants gunners & range 180 4,725. Machine parts, agricultural, except 34,549.
Compass magnetic gyroscopic 1,015 95,878. tractor
Listening devices, sub 52,25l. Machinery & implements, agriculture
Tachometers, excl. aircraft 464 31,012. -- 4,002.
Trainers, aircraft pilot 1 23,160. Passenger cars, & chassis 34 77,786.
Parts, military semi-trailers 106,948. Airc. radio trans. & rec. sets 1,094 1,163,680.
Mobile communications units 134 4,807,982. Airc. radio trans. & rec. set pts. 4,399,394.
Tanks, light, n.e.s. 4 212,501. Directors, range finders, airc. 19,150.
Tanks, heavy, over 40 tons 1 96,886. Trans. etc. self-synchron., airc, 29,175.
Trans-rec. tank radio sets 20 25,898. Instruments & parts, airc., n.e.s. 264,614.
Parts, tank radio sets 6,677. Propellers, aircraft 553 1,756,048.
Eng. light, medium & heavy tanks 889 2,514,214. Parts, accessories, propellers, aircraft 3,882,345.
Kng. parts, light, medium & heavy Bomb rack cont. etc., aircraft 2,902,980.
tanks 208,864. Sights, bomb, aircraft 49 156,800.
Parts, tanks, n.e.s. 5,615,155. Other aircraft parts & accessories, n.e.s. 17,441,735.
Propellers & blades, boat 23,312 lbs. 23,410. Motorcyles parts & access., n.e.s. 3,647,804.
Vehicles & parts, n.e.s. 26,690. Vessels, merchant 31 15,990,324.
Ready mixed paints, stains, enamels 28,622 gal. 49,356. Boats, motor torpedo 63 14,726,843.
Pigments, chrome l0% chrome 9,374 lbs. 2,249. Launches, standard, navy 551,399.
Pigments, chemical, n.e.s. 12,022 lbs. 7,735. Craft, naval landing 41 3,890,645.
Paint, colors, paste oil, n.e.s. 668,409 lbs. 75,551. Watercraft, naval, n.e.s. 133,ll5.
Water paints, dry 22,400 lbs. 1,960. Parts, naval craft, exc; engine 4,138,652.
Laequers, nitrocell pigmented 4,650 gals. 20,903. Engines, marine, detachable 852 152,748.


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Item Quantity Cost in Dollars Item Quantity Cost in Dollars
MISCELLANEOUS FOR 1945 ONLY, continued MISCELLANEOUS FOR 1945 ONLY, continued
Engines, marine, n.e.s. 669 $2,759,268. Trailers, semi-military, n.e.s. 604 $ 1,569,131.
Cars, railway, freight, over 10 tons 2,478 9,079,786.
Cars, railway, freight, not over 10 tons l l4,820. JORDAN'S SPECIAL
Equipment & parts, air brake, railway Household & personal effects 86,646.
car 12,806. Cigarette case, compacts, etc. 25,230.
Railway parts, etc., excl. axles 54,087. Jewelry, men's except metal 26.
Railway signals, parts, etc. 1,46l,751. Jewelry findings, parts, material 311,695.
Pushcart & hand trucks 75 4,959. Buttons of material, n.e.s. 5,457 gr. 52,885.
Wheels, n.e.s. 20 ll8. Findings, sboe, excl. leather & rubber l09,371.
Carriers, universal, ordnance 3,887 6,574,555. Eyeglasses, n.e.s. & frames 169,806.
Engines for universal carriers 400 212,240. Teeth 13,328 956.
Parts, universal carriers, engines 2l,882. Clocks, electric 13 210.
Parts, universal carriers, n.e.s. 2,145,129. Clocks & parts, n.e.s. 48,4I8.
Cars, scout, excl. armored 4,559 6,5l8,925. Clocks, mantel, novalty & wall 4 20.
Vehicles, ordnance, combat, n.e.s. 608 5,871,493. Chronometers, marine 6,133 258,537.
Parts, ordnance combat vehicles 6,621,l90. Time recording devices, n.e.s. 59,516.
Trucks, art repair 10 ll2,506. Watches with jewels 9,126 l43,922.
Trucks, machine shop 140 l,838,483. Watch parts 50.
Trucks, small arms repair 72 623,910. Glassware, table, n.e.s. machine made 60,272 15,068.
Trucks, tank maintenance 39 410,729. GLass rolled 28,205 sq.ft. 7,48O.
Trucks, tool & bench 39 442,167. Soap, toilet and fancy 6,222 lbs. 874.
Trucks, welding 30 654,459. Soap, Laundry 2,475,979 lbs. 222,35l.
Trucks, wrecking 14 l54,090. Soap, powdered or flaked 102 lbs. I7.
Trucks, service & repair, n.e.s. 160 l,5l8,643. Scouring bricks, pastes, etc. l2 lbs. 3.
Parts, ordnance, service trucks 88,730. Soap, n.e.s. 67,589 lbs. 7,006.
Trailers, 40 ton tank transport 55 284,061. Lipsticks 400.
Trailers, military, n.e.s. 435 1,911,410. Malt liquors, whiskey, dist. liquer,
Parts, accessories, military trailers l92,930, wines n.e.s. others 373 gals. 2,079.
Trailers, semi T-4, W-van 2 21,704. Rum 55 pfg. 466.


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Item Quantity Cost in Dollars Item Quantity Cost in Dollars
JORDAN'S SPECIAL, continued JORDAN'S SPECIAL, contniued
Smoking tobacco 4,079 lbs. $ 3,520. Pianos, new 2 $ 530.
Cigars Oc cheroots 2 (M) 109. Phonograpbs, except coin-operated 4 67.
Cigarettes 5,729 (M) 11,959. Band percussion instrudments --- 330.
Fishing tackle, n.e.s. --- 57,444. Band woodwind insruments 51 6,534.
Books, bound, excl. educational --- 234,853. Musial instruments, n.e.s. --- 1,630.
Stereopticons, magic lanterns, etc, --- l61,046. Musical instruments, parts, n.e.s. --- 51,720.
amusement park & playground de- Merchandise value $10 or less --- 36,083.
vices --- 4,352. All other articles, n.e.s. --- 32,752.
Artwork, antique, etc. --- l00. Plans, aircraft photo & blueprint --- 6,500.
Lamps, lanterns, pans, gasoline --- 27,,201. Newapapers, current --- 3,155.
Office supplies --- 23,110. Roofing asphalt 2,000 sq. ft. 5,640.
Ink, writing 581 lbs. 342. Platinum bar, ingot, sheet, etc. 75 Troy oz. 12,043.
Ink, printing & lithograpbic 22,091 lbs. 20,595. Platinum allied manufactures, excl.
Carbon paper 13,256 lbs. 14,042. jewelry 66 Troy oz. 714.
Typewriter ribbons 155 doz. 651. Gold manufactures, n.e.s. -- 438.
Pencils, not mech. 3,653 gr. 24,533. Bank vaults, doors & equipment l 692.
Pencils, mech. plastic & non-plastic 230 doz. 1,383. Fire-resistant safes, vault doors, fire-
Pencil leads 1 gr. 5. resistant 1 l38.
Pens, fount. & stylo, plastic & non- Bathtubs, iron, & steel enameled
plastic 51 doz. 3,599. bath 1O 580.
Pens, points, metallic 231 gr. 553. Household heating-boilers & warm
Penholders, n.e.s. --- 242. air furnaces 6 8,832.
Ink, excl. writing, ptg. & lithog. --- 4538. Pipes, tobacco 1 10.
Paste 4c mucilage 1,736 lbs. 289. Shotguns l 25.
Machines, calculating, accounting, Relief or charity, 1942 10,457,417.
etc., n.e.s. --- 34,483. Relief or charity, 1943 19,089,139.
Duplicating machines --- 13,863. Relief or charity, 1944 25,479,722.
Office appliances, typesetting, printing --- 59,479. Relief or charity, 1945 33,674,825.
Phonograph records --- 12,409. TOTAL "Relief or charity" 88,701,103.


SUMMARY


MUNITIONS $4,651,582,000 NON-MUNITIONS 4,826,084,000 ---------------- Total 9,477,666,000 Note: the figure of $11 billion includes services as well as goods furnished.
The U.S. Government has never released detailed reports on what was sent in Lend-Lease, so Major Jordan's data, gleaned from the Russians' own manifests, is the only public record. More than one-third of Lend-Lease sent was illegal under the terms of the act which specifically prohibited "goods furnished for relief and rehabilitation purposes."


It should be kept in mind that Russia was an ally of Japan throughout the war, that it had been the ally of Hitler during the first two years of the war, that its division of Poland with Germany started the war, that it was an agressive imperialist force that attacked Finland and subverted the Baltic states as well, that it had announced that it intended to take over the world and that most of the aid sent in 1945 was sent after Stalin's February speech in which he said he would continue the war but against the United States.


Franklin Roosevelt's alter ego and Lend-Lease administrator Harry L. Hopkins, a KGB agent, declared to Russia before a crowd at Madison Square Garden on June 22, 1942, that: "We are determined that nothing shall stop us from sharing with you all that we have." He was not joking.

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So, Christie, while Russia did indeed have appalling losses on the battlefield, you have to consider the only resource Stalin had in abundance that we didn't give him : millions of peasants. Millions were forced to charge the German lines in frontal assaults, and if they did not, they were shot by their commanding officers. Pretty bad situation to be in, and the only way out was to hope you didn't get cut in half as you charged the line.

Even with the huge amounts of supplies we gave the Russians, it was the winter weather that ultimately ground Hitler's advance to a halt, combined with our Air Force targeting Hitler's oil fields and resupply networks. The Germans in Russia had no supplies of their own and it's damned hard to fight a war without petroleum, ammo and cold weather gear in the middle of a Russian winter.

Russia wouldn't have had a snowball's chance in hell at stopping Hitler without the USA propping them up and cutting off Hitler's resupply resources.

I should probably search for the WWII materials we sent the UK - I'm sure it dwarfs what we did for Russia.

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I deny I'm humourless !

But you don't deny your whiny? Wise as you've provided copious evidence that you are. But I've already conceded that insane people laugh a lot and you do meet the layman's definition of crazy. You incessantly whine about the same thing while expecting a different result. And then there is your proclivity to hallucinate err, pay to much attention to your imagination.