America Is Not The Greatest Country In The World... Anymore

[Black Diamond]

Putin certainly has more balls than Obama. I can, to some extent, understand why he gains more respect.

[Vladamir]

Welcome to DP, Mr. Putin! :salute:

Why did you shoot down that plane over Ukraine? Are you concentrating only on ISIS over in Syria, or are you up to no good as well? :)
Thanks jimnyc
Got any concrete evidence of that jimnyc,as BUK missile launchers were on both sides of the fence!

[Christie Brinkley]

Welcome to DP, Mr. Putin! :salute:

Why did you shoot down that plane over Ukraine? Are you concentrating only on ISIS over in Syria, or are you up to no good as well? :)
Why would Russia want to shoot down a commercial aircraft filled with hundreds of civilians? What would the Russian separatists/Russian Federation gain from shooting it down? Nothing, in fact they would probably lose (propaganda/information war wise)

I can tell you who would gain from having that plane shot down and that would be the Ukrainian government who allowed the commercial airliner to fly over a war zone! They gain because they can blame it on Russia and then increase their international support.

[Christie Brinkley]

Thanks jimnyc
Got any concrete evidence of that jimnyc,as BUK missile launchers were on both sides of the fence!
The type of BUK missiles were decommissioned by the Russian Federation years ago, yet they are still used by the Ukrainians but the media here will just repeat RUSSIAN MADE RUSSIAN MADE

Yes Russia correct me if I am wrong is the biggest exporter of weapons in the world?

[Vladamir]

The type of BUK missiles were decommissioned by the Russian Federation years ago, yet they are still used by the Ukrainians but the media here will just repeat RUSSIAN MADE RUSSIAN MADE

Yes Russia correct me if I am wrong is the biggest exporter of weapons in the world?
No that would be the American Military industrial complex.

[Christie Brinkley]

The missiles which allegedly shot the plane down were decommissioned by the Russian Federation in 2011.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuSCMaZ3R4Q

[Gunny]

I think Gunny is getting a bit irritated at Putin worship;) (or he wishes his country had a leader like him;))

When it comes to Putin I wish my country had a leader like ME. Diplomacy with me is I'd turn my military on his butt and have to go to the john and then play Hillary --- "I didn't know". Sorry we wiped out your country. I was going potty.:laugh:

[Christie Brinkley]

No that would be the American Military industrial complex.
Closely behind is the Russian Federation.

[jimnyc]

Why would Russia want to shoot down a commercial aircraft filled with hundreds of civilians? What would the Russian separatists/Russian Federation gain from shooting it down? Nothing, in fact they would probably lose (propaganda/information war wise)

I can tell you who would gain from having that plane shot down and that would be the Ukrainian government who allowed the commercial airliner to fly over a war zone! They gain because they can blame it on Russia and then increase their international support.

It's called a mistake. They even played audio not long after it happened, between guys on the ground, and it seemed like they accidentally shot it down.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/18/world/europe/ukraine-mh17-intercepted-audio/index.html

[Vladamir]

Closely behind is the Russian Federation.
Well not unless is has changed from 2014.Sorry you said closely behind the US that is correct with Germany third

[jimnyc]

No that would be the American Military industrial complex.

The strongest and greatest military in the world, defending the greatest country in the world. :salute:

[Christie Brinkley]

Well not unless is has changed from 2014.


United States: 31%
Russia: 27%
China: 5%
Germany: 5%
France: 5%
U.K.: 4%
Spain: 3%
Italy: 3%
Ukraine: 3%
Israel: 2%



http://www.cheatsheet.com/business/the-worlds-10-largest-arms-exporters.html/?a=viewall

[Vladamir]

United States: 31%
Russia: 27%
China: 5%
Germany: 5%
France: 5%
U.K.: 4%
Spain: 3%
Italy: 3%
Ukraine: 3%
Israel: 2%



http://www.cheatsheet.com/business/the-worlds-10-largest-arms-exporters.html/?a=viewall
I know I misread your post

[Christie Brinkley]

It's called a mistake. They even played audio not long after it happened, between guys on the ground, and it seemed like they accidentally shot it down.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/18/world/europe/ukraine-mh17-intercepted-audio/index.html
Ukrainian government faked it as they put this out. This audio was not found independently. Funnily enough this audio was miraculously found in such a short amount of time after the incident.

[jimnyc]

Ukrainian government faked it as they put this out. This audio was not found independently. Funnily enough this audio was miraculously found in such a short amount of time after the incident.

When you hear things such as this, and Russia released information blaming the Ukraine - how do you know which is telling the truth?

And Fwiw - intercepting audio isn't difficult, not sure why you would think otherwise. Especially if in a war zone. They would all be listening in on one another.

Russia has lied about a shitload. At one point they claimed they were not even in Ukraine, and that was proven a lie not shortly thereafter, even by the USA (which Btw, also stated Russia shot down the plane)

[Christie Brinkley]

The strongest and greatest military in the world, defending the greatest country in the world. :salute:
Strong but 'strongest' can be disputed. I would not say the greatest. Probably more accurately the ex-greatest.

#1 According to a brand new report that was just released by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (http://www.oecd.org/), the United States has the fattest population in the entire industrialized world by a wide margin.
#2 That same report from the OECD also found that we are number one in child obesity. In fact, at 38 percent (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-u.s-most-obese-fattest-kids-by-a-mile-tops-for-poor-teen-health/article/2573993) our rate of childhood obesity is even higher than our overall rate of obesity.
#3 According to USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/10/public-health-obesity-inactivity-state-rankings/20095261/), the obesity rate in the United States has more than doubled over the past 25 years.
#4 The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/03/21-maps-and-charts-that-prove-america-is-number-one/) has reported that Americans spend an average of 293 minutes a day watching television, which is the most in the world by a wide margin. And as I have discussed previously, more than 90 percent of the “programming” that we absorb is created by just 6 enormously powerful media corporations (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/who-owns-the-media-the-6-monolithic-corporations-that-control-almost-everything-we-watch-hear-and-read).
#5 One study found that the average American spends more than 10 hours a day (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/how-much-time-do-americans-spend-plugged-into-the-matrix-every-day) using some sort of electronic device.
#6 By the time an American child reaches the age of 18, that child will have seen approximately 40,000 murders (http://www.parentstv.org/ptc/publications/reports/stateindustryviolence/main.asp) on television.
#7 The average young American will spend 10,000 hours (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/these-two-traps-are-absolutely-destroying-the-next-generation-of-young-men-in-america) playing video games before the age of 21.
#8 Out of 22 countries studied by the Educational Testing Service (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/americas-millennials-well-educated-but-unskilled/), Americans were dead last in tech proficiency, dead last in numeracy and only two countries performed worse than us when it came to literacy proficiency.
#9 In more than half of all U.S. states, the highest paid public employee in the state is a football coach (http://deadspin.com/infographic-is-your-states-highest-paid-employee-a-co-489635228).
#10 The percentage of wealth owned by middle class adults is lower in North America (http://www.businessinsider.com/credit-suisse-global-wealth-report-decline-global-middle-class-wealth-2015-10) than it is anywhere else in the world.
#11 Almost half of all Americans (47 percent (http://www.businessinsider.com/half-of-america-doesnt-save-any-money-2015-3)) do not put a single penny out of their paychecks into savings.
#12 It turns out that Americans are very good at locking people away in prison. At 716 per 100,000 members of the population (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/03/21-maps-and-charts-that-prove-america-is-number-one/), the United States has the highest incarceration rate on the entire planet by a very wide margin.
#13 Approximately one-fourth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States) of the entire global prison population is in the United States.
#14 In 2014, police in the United States killed 1,100 people (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/#rBGD2LV7hvVi1tuh.99). During that same year, police in Canada killed14 people (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/#rBGD2LV7hvVi1tuh.99), police in China killed 12 people (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/#rBGD2LV7hvVi1tuh.99) and police in Germany didn’t kill anyone at all.
#15 One recently published study found that one out of every six young Americans (http://time.com/4069935/thief-study/?xid=homepage) has stolen something during the past year.
#16 There are more car thefts in the United States than anywhere else in the world by far (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_car_the-crime-car-thefts).
#17 According to Fox News, approximately 70 percent (http://magazine.foxnews.com/love/cheating-statistics-do-men-cheat-more-women) of married men in the United States admit to having cheated on their wives.
#18 Americans spend far more on health care than anyone else in the world, and yet we only rank 26th (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy) in life expectancy and our entire health care system has been transformed into a giant money making scam (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/hospitals-are-blatantly-ripping-us-off).
#19 According to a study conducted by the Mayo Clinic, nearly 70 percent (http://www.mayoclinic.org/news2013-rst/7543.html) of all Americans are on at least one prescription drug, and an astounding 20 percent of all Americans are on at least five prescription drugs.
#20 According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, 31 percent (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/31-percent-of-all-food-in-america-is-wasted-and-why-that-is-about-to-end) of all food in the United States gets wasted. In case you were wondering, that amounts to approximately 133 billion pounds of food a year.
#21 In 2013, women earned 60 percent (http://www.npr.org/2014/07/17/326175817/the-modern-american-man-charted) of all bachelor’s degrees that were awarded that year in the United States.
#22 A survey conducted by the Barna Group discovered that 77 percent (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/america-is-done-only-29-percent-of-americans-want-to-cut-off-funding-for-planned-parenthood) of Christian men in America in the 18 to 30-year-old age bracket view pornography at least monthly.
#23 There are more than 4 million adult websites (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630438/Pornography-treated-like-drink-driving-teenager-smoking-experts-argue-widespread-U-S-MAJOR-health-crisis.html) on the Internet, and they get more traffic than Netflix, Amazon and Twitter combined.
#24 70 percent (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-most-americans-unhappy-at-work/) of Americans do not “feel engaged or inspired at their jobs”.
#25 When LBJ’s “War on Poverty” began, less than 10 percent (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/03/22/the-real-reason-the-american-dream-is-unraveling/) of all U.S. children were growing up in single parent households. Today, that number has skyrocketed to 33 percent (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/03/22/the-real-reason-the-american-dream-is-unraveling/).
#26 In 1950, less than 5 percent (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/03/22/the-real-reason-the-american-dream-is-unraveling/) of all babies in America were born to unmarried parents. Today, that number is over 40 percent (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/03/22/the-real-reason-the-american-dream-is-unraveling/).
#27 According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there are 20 million (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/chlamydia-sets-us-record-most-cases-reportable-disease) new cases of sexually-transmitted disease in the United States each year.
#28 Today, the United States has the highest STD infection rate in the entire industrialized world (http://globalgrind.com/news/cdc-says-us-highest-rates-stds-stats-in-world-details).
#29 According to a survey that was just released within the last 30 days, only 29 percent (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/america-is-done-only-29-percent-of-americans-want-to-cut-off-funding-for-planned-parenthood) of Americans want to cut off federal funding for Planned Parenthood even after all of the shocking undercover videos that were released this year.
#30 America has the highest rate of illegal drug use (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/01/health/webmd/main4222322.shtml) on the entire planet.
#31 Doctors in the United States write more than 250 million prescriptions (http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/70-million-americans-taking-mind-altering-drugs/) for antidepressants each year.
#32 One survey of 50-year-old men in the U.S. found that only 12 percent (http://www.esquire.com/features/facts-about-men-1010) of them said that they were “very happy”.
#33 Every single year, the United States has the largest trade deficit in the entire world (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/historical/gands.pdf) by a very wide margin. But most Americans still don’t seem concerned that thousands of businesses and millions of good jobs have been leaving our country.
#34 As you read this article, there are 102.6 million (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/right-now-there-are-102-6-million-working-age-americans-that-do-not-have-jobs) working age Americans that do not have a job.
#35 We are supposed to have a government “of the people, by the people, for the people”, but only 25 percent (http://www.alternet.org/story/90161/ignorant_america%3A_just_how_stupid_are_we)of all Americans know how long U.S. Senators are elected for (6 years), and only 20 percent (http://www.alternet.org/story/90161/ignorant_america%3A_just_how_stupid_are_we) of all Americans know how many U.S. senators there are in total.
#36 On average, we have been stealing more than 100 million dollars (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/it-is-mathematically-impossible-to-pay-off-all-of-our-debt) from future generations of Americans every single hour of every single day since Barack Obama entered the White House.

[Vladamir]

The strongest and greatest military in the world, defending the greatest country in the world. :salute:
Indeed jimnyc,with the largest debt @$18.5 trillion. Lets hope it doesn't put you all in the poor house.Mind you we aren't doing so good either in that area.

[Christie Brinkley]

When you hear things such as this, and Russia released information blaming the Ukraine - how do you know which is telling the truth?

And Fwiw - intercepting audio isn't difficult, not sure why you would think otherwise. Especially if in a war zone. They would all be listening in on one another.

Russia has lied about a shitload. At one point they claimed they were not even in Ukraine, and that was proven a lie not shortly thereafter, even by the USA (which Btw, also stated Russia shot down the plane)
If the facts can be verified. All I see with this 'fact' is unknown supposedly Russian soldiers talking about accidentally shooting down the plane amazingly acquired and translated by the Ukrainians in such little time after the incident?

[Gunny]

The strongest and greatest military in the world, defending the greatest country in the world. :salute:

We could trash every one of those countries. Let us do our jobs.

[jimnyc]

Strong but 'strongest' can be disputed. I would not say the greatest. Probably more accurately the ex-greatest.

#1 According to a brand new report that was just released by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (http://www.oecd.org/), the United States has the fattest population in the entire industrialized world by a wide margin.


Sure, poke fun - but our fat people alone could likely and very easily take down the UK. No offense of course, but like I told someone earlier, your country would have a hugely difficult time against our attack helo's alone.

As for living here, that's cool, I don't want anyone else coming here anyway, and I LOVE it here! The more that stay out the better. But for whatever odd reason, people from the world over are literally dying to come here.

[Christie Brinkley]

Don't mean to crash the party


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqcLUqYqrs

[Black Diamond]

Why do I feel I am simply seeing another side of Christie Brinkley? :cool:

[jimnyc]

If the facts can be verified. All I see with this 'fact' is unknown supposedly Russian soldiers talking about accidentally shooting down the plane amazingly acquired and translated by the Ukrainians in such little time after the incident?

ANd yet you "factually" state that the article I posted was wrong? Seems like you believe what you WANT to believe, and then declare the other incorrect. Me? I couldn't care less if all the idiots blew one another up and disappeared off the earth.

[NightTrain]

Well, Christie...

When you guys grow up into a Super Power, then we'll debate on who is the greatest country and who is flawless.

[Christie Brinkley]

Sure, poke fun - but our fat people alone could likely and very easily take down the UK. No offense of course, but like I told someone earlier, your country would have a hugely difficult time against our attack helo's alone.

As for living here, that's cool, I don't want anyone else coming here anyway, and I LOVE it here! The more that stay out the better. But for whatever odd reason, people from the world over are literally dying to come here.
Just because you can dominate us and most of the world militarily that does not mean America is the greatest country in the world.

I am glad you love your country but you have to admit it is no longer the greatest country in the world.

[Black Diamond]

Just because you can dominate us and most of the world militarily that does not mean America is the greatest country in the world.

I am glad you love your country but you have to admit it is no longer the greatest country in the world.

Yeah we know. Denmark is, right?

[jimnyc]

Don't mean to crash the party

And don't mean to crash your crash party - but we're still BY FAR the greatest country in the world, of course youtube videos aside! :laugh:

[Vladamir]

Sure, poke fun - but our fat people alone could likely and very easily take down the UK. No offense of course, but like I told someone earlier, your country would have a hugely difficult time against our attack helo's alone.

As for living here, that's cool, I don't want anyone else coming here anyway, and I LOVE it here! The more that stay out the better. But for whatever odd reason, people from the world over are literally dying to come here.
They would be having a long swim,so by the time they got here they wouldn't be fat.:laugh:

[Christie Brinkley]

Why do I feel I am simply seeing another side of Christie Brinkley? :cool:i am a Russian agent working for
What side would that be?

[Black Diamond]

Well, Christie...

When you guys grow up into a Super Power, then we'll debate on who is the greatest country and who is flawless.

They used to be a super power

[Black Diamond]

i am a Russian agent working for
What side would that be?

Vladimir has a different pose of Putin. It will be tough to not think of you when he posts. :cool:

[Christie Brinkley]

And don't mean to crash your crash party - but we're still BY FAR the greatest country in the world, of course youtube videos aside! :laugh:
Well Youtube video aside I just gave you 36 facts that it is no longer the greatest country in the world.

[Gunny]

Don't mean to crash the party


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqcLUqYqrs

Come into my yard and say that. Better yet send a guy to say it. Tell him to bring his sword.

[Black Diamond]

And don't mean to crash your crash party - but we're still BY FAR the greatest country in the world, of course youtube videos aside! :laugh:

Kardashians? It's deteriorating.

[Christie Brinkley]

Vladimir has a different pose of Putin. It will be tough to not think of you when he posts. :cool:
What is that supposed to mean?

[Black Diamond]

Well Youtube video aside I just gave you 36 facts that it is no longer the greatest country in the world.

Facts supporting an opinion.......

[jimnyc]

They would be having a long swim,so by the time they got here they wouldn't be fat.:laugh:

Perhaps, perhaps. Point is, I was talking about the military and another comment, and the simple fact is, no one could even come remotely close to us one on one. Our military hardware total makes most other countries look like they are still in the stone age.

Oh, and then we have freedoms. I know, I know, make funny comments about that. But truth is, we have more freedoms than anywhere else too. There's a reason that everyone rushes to get to the USA and places like the UK, Russia, China, Mexico.... all pale in comparison.

[Black Diamond]

What is that supposed to mean?

Look at yall's avatars.

[Vladamir]

Vladimir has a different pose of Putin. It will be tough to not think of you when he posts. :cool:
Hey I have the cheeky grin.that is my better side.

[NightTrain]

They used to be a super power


I'm aware.. but those days are long past.

Anyway, I'm not really sure what the whole goal is of attempting to trash America. Fast way to piss a lot of people off, as the Dixie Chicks learned when they were over in the UK.

[Christie Brinkley]

Perhaps, perhaps. Point is, I was talking about the military and another comment, and the simple fact is, no one could even come remotely close to us one on one. Our military hardware total makes most other countries look like they are still in the stone age.

Oh, and then we have freedoms. I know, I know, make funny comments about that. But truth is, we have more freedoms than anywhere else too. There's a reason that everyone rushes to get to the USA and places like the UK, Russia, China, Mexico.... all pale in comparison.
They used to flock to America for freedom, now they flock just for the money that is left.

[Vladamir]

Perhaps, perhaps. Point is, I was talking about the military and another comment, and the simple fact is, no one could even come remotely close to us one on one. Our military hardware total makes most other countries look like they are still in the stone age.

Oh, and then we have freedoms. I know, I know, make funny comments about that. But truth is, we have more freedoms than anywhere else too. There's a reason that everyone rushes to get to the USA and places like the UK, Russia, China, Mexico.... all pale in comparison.
Well maybe,but Vlad has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world.Just for educational purposes and Russia is larger.

[Christie Brinkley]

Well maybe,but Vlad has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world.Just for educational purposes and Russia is larger.
NO AMERICA NUMBER 1

USA USA USA!:salute::salute::salute:

[jimnyc]

Well Youtube video aside I just gave you 36 facts that it is no longer the greatest country in the world.

Ok, if you say so. But please tell others that may want to come here then, so that everyone is aware. And as far as military is concerned, please keep me from laughing. Say what you will about living and such, but militarily speaking - it wouldn't take much. Like I said, our attack helo's would be enough, but would definitely never need to leave the air if you add in the jets - and the much superior pilots.

[Black Diamond]

Well maybe,but Vlad has the largest nuclear arsenal in the world.Just for educational purposes and Russia is larger.

Russia is HUUUUUUGE.

[Gunny]

I have a good idea. If we're going to have a pissing contest, let's move from the introduction thread? I'll argue with a stick and screwing with my country is going to get you about as far as my reach. But this IS the welcome aboard thread. We CAN take this elsewhere.

[Black Diamond]

Ok, if you say so. But please tell others that may want to come here then, so that everyone is aware. And as far as military is concerned, please keep me from laughing. Say what you will about living and such, but militarily speaking - it wouldn't take much. Like I said, our attack helo's would be enough, but would definitely never need to leave the air if you add in the jets - and the much superior pilots.
If Obama wont use military might if his balls depended on it, are we really that powerful?

[Christie Brinkley]

Ok, if you say so. But please tell others that may want to come here then, so that everyone is aware. And as far as military is concerned, please keep me from laughing. Say what you will about living and such, but militarily speaking - it wouldn't take much. Like I said, our attack helo's would be enough, but would definitely never need to leave the air if you add in the jets - and the much superior pilots.
Military is not everything.

[jimnyc]

NO AMERICA NUMBER 1

USA USA USA!:salute::salute::salute:

Hey, jealousy won't get ya very far. Sorry if the facts annoy ya a little. I'll try and quiet it down a little. But your friend started in about the military, and I simply spoke up about the laugh of a comparison it would be between the US and the UK.

[NightTrain]

If Obama wont use military might if his balls depended on it, are we really that powerful?


A Corvette with a pussy behind the wheel is still a Corvette. :thumb:

[Gunny]

Military is not everything.

Another thread in a more appropriate forum?

[Black Diamond]

A Corvette with a pussy behind the wheel is still a Corvette. :thumb:

:laugh:

[Vladamir]

Hey, jealousy won't get ya very far. Sorry if the facts annoy ya a little. I'll try and quiet it down a little. But your friend started in about the military, and I simply spoke up about the laugh of a comparison it would be between the US and the UK.
LOL you started it with talking about BUK missles

[Christie Brinkley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqcLUqYqrs

Discuss

#1 According to a brand new report that was just released by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (http://www.oecd.org/), the United States has the fattest population in the entire industrialized world by a wide margin.
#2 That same report from the OECD also found that we are number one in child obesity. In fact, at 38 percent (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-u.s-most-obese-fattest-kids-by-a-mile-tops-for-poor-teen-health/article/2573993) our rate of childhood obesity is even higher than our overall rate of obesity.
#3 According to USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/10/public-health-obesity-inactivity-state-rankings/20095261/), the obesity rate in the United States has more than doubled over the past 25 years.
#4 The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/03/21-maps-and-charts-that-prove-america-is-number-one/) has reported that Americans spend an average of 293 minutes a day watching television, which is the most in the world by a wide margin. And as I have discussed previously, more than 90 percent of the “programming” that we absorb is created by just 6 enormously powerful media corporations (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/who-owns-the-media-the-6-monolithic-corporations-that-control-almost-everything-we-watch-hear-and-read).
#5 One study found that the average American spends more than 10 hours a day (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/how-much-time-do-americans-spend-plugged-into-the-matrix-every-day) using some sort of electronic device.
#6 By the time an American child reaches the age of 18, that child will have seen approximately 40,000 murders (http://www.parentstv.org/ptc/publications/reports/stateindustryviolence/main.asp) on television.
#7 The average young American will spend 10,000 hours (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/these-two-traps-are-absolutely-destroying-the-next-generation-of-young-men-in-america) playing video games before the age of 21.
#8 Out of 22 countries studied by the Educational Testing Service (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/americas-millennials-well-educated-but-unskilled/), Americans were dead last in tech proficiency, dead
last in numeracy and only two countries performed worse than us when it came to literacy proficiency.
#9 In more than half of all U.S. states, the highest paid public employee in the state is a football coach (http://deadspin.com/infographic-is-your-states-highest-paid-employee-a-co-489635228).
#10 The percentage of wealth owned by middle class adults is lower in North America (http://www.businessinsider.com/credit-suisse-global-wealth-report-decline-global-middle-class-wealth-2015-10) than it is anywhere else in the world.
#11 Almost half of all Americans (47 percent (http://www.businessinsider.com/half-of-america-doesnt-save-any-money-2015-3)) do not put a single penny out of their paychecks into savings.
#12 It turns out that Americans are very good at locking people away in prison. At 716 per 100,000 members of the population (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/03/21-maps-and-charts-that-prove-america-is-number-one/), the United States has the highest incarceration rate on the entire planet by a very wide margin.
#13 Approximately one-fourth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States) of the entire global prison population is in the United States.
#14 In 2014, police in the United States killed 1,100 people (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/#rBGD2LV7hvVi1tuh.99). During that same year, police in Canada killed14 people (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/#rBGD2LV7hvVi1tuh.99), police in China killed 12 people (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/#rBGD2LV7hvVi1tuh.99) and police in Germany didn’t kill anyone at all.
#15 One recently published study found that one out of every six young Americans (http://time.com/4069935/thief-study/?xid=homepage) has stolen something during the past year.
#16 There are more car thefts in the United States than anywhere else in the world by far (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_car_the-crime-car-thefts).
#17 According to Fox News, approximately 70 percent (http://magazine.foxnews.com/love/cheating-statistics-do-men-cheat-more-women) of married men in the United States admit to having cheated on their wives.
#18 Americans spend far more on health care than anyone else in the world, and yet we only rank 26th (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy) in life expectancy and our entire health care system has been transformed into a giant money making scam (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/hospitals-are-blatantly-ripping-us-off).
#19 According to a study conducted by the Mayo Clinic, nearly 70 percent (http://www.mayoclinic.org/news2013-rst/7543.html) of all Americans are on at least one prescription drug, and an astounding 20 percent of all Americans are on at least five prescription drugs.
#20 According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, 31 percent (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/31-percent-of-all-food-in-america-is-wasted-and-why-that-is-about-to-end) of all food in the United States gets wasted. In case you were wondering, that amounts to approximately 133 billion pounds of food a year.
#21 In 2013, women earned 60 percent (http://www.npr.org/2014/07/17/326175817/the-modern-american-man-charted) of all bachelor’s degrees that were awarded that year in the United States.
#22 A survey conducted by the Barna Group discovered that 77 percent (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/america-is-done-only-29-percent-of-americans-want-to-cut-off-funding-for-planned-parenthood) of Christian men in America in the 18 to 30-year-old age bracket view pornography at least monthly.
#23 There are more than 4 million adult websites (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630438/Pornography-treated-like-drink-driving-teenager-smoking-experts-argue-widespread-U-S-MAJOR-health-crisis.html) on the Internet, and they get more traffic than Netflix, Amazon and Twitter combined.
#24 70 percent (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-most-americans-unhappy-at-work/) of Americans do not “feel engaged or inspired at their jobs”.
#25 When LBJ’s “War on Poverty” began, less than 10 percent (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/03/22/the-real-reason-the-american-dream-is-unraveling/) of all U.S. children were growing up in single parent households. Today, that number has skyrocketed to 33 percent (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/03/22/the-real-reason-the-american-dream-is-unraveling/).
#26 In 1950, less than 5 percent (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/03/22/the-real-reason-the-american-dream-is-unraveling/) of all babies in America were born to unmarried parents. Today, that number is over 40 percent (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/03/22/the-real-reason-the-american-dream-is-unraveling/).
#27 According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there are 20 million (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/chlamydia-sets-us-record-most-cases-reportable-disease) new cases of sexually-transmitted disease in the United States each year.
#28 Today, the United States has the highest STD infection rate in the entire industrialized world (http://globalgrind.com/news/cdc-says-us-highest-rates-stds-stats-in-world-details).
#29 According to a survey that was just released within the last 30 days, only 29 percent (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/america-is-done-only-29-percent-of-americans-want-to-cut-off-funding-for-planned-parenthood) of Americans want to cut off federal funding for Planned Parenthood even after all of the shocking undercover videos that were released this year.
#30 America has the highest rate of illegal drug use (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/01/health/webmd/main4222322.shtml) on the entire planet.
#31 Doctors in the United States write more than 250 million prescriptions (http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/70-million-americans-taking-mind-altering-drugs/) for antidepressants each year.
#32 One survey of 50-year-old men in the U.S. found that only 12 percent (http://www.esquire.com/features/facts-about-men-1010) of them said that they were “very happy”.
#33 Every single year, the United States has the largest trade deficit in the entire world (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/historical/gands.pdf) by a very wide margin. But most Americans still don’t seem concerned that thousands of businesses and millions of good jobs have been leaving our country.
#34 As you read this article, there are 102.6 million (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/right-now-there-are-102-6-million-working-age-americans-that-do-not-have-jobs) working age Americans that do not have a job.
#35 We are supposed to have a government “of the people, by the people, for the people”, but only 25 percent (http://www.alternet.org/story/90161/ignorant_america%3A_just_how_stupid_are_we)of all Americans know how long U.S. Senators are elected for (6 years), and only 20 percent (http://www.alternet.org/story/90161/ignorant_america%3A_just_how_stupid_are_we) of all Americans know how many U.S. senators there are in total.
#36 On average, we have been stealing more than 100 million dollars (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/it-is-mathematically-impossible-to-pay-off-all-of-our-debt) from future generations of Americans every single hour of every single day since Barack Obama entered the White House.

[Christie Brinkley]

Please transport your opinions here- http://www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?52194-America-Is-Not-The-Greatest-Country-In-The-World-Anymore&p=772574#post772574

[Black Diamond]

And Denmark is the greatest nation on Earth

[jimnyc]

Another thread in a more appropriate forum?

His buddy Vlad brought up the military, I responded, they didn't care much for my patriotism. Luckily for me my patriotism is backed up by 250 years of kicking ass and keeping the most freedom in the world.

I'll swing back later and neaten this up and make a new thread out of it, so as not to ruin the Intro....

[NightTrain]

And Denmark is the greatest nation on Earth


I was going to say Slovenia.

[Christie Brinkley]

And Denmark is the greatest nation on Earth
You have to balance quality with quantity... all America has now is quantity. Denmark lacks quantity.

[Vladamir]

I will need convincing. :cool:

[Christie Brinkley]

I was going to say Slovenia.
They are being flooded with illegals? How are they the greatest nation?

[Black Diamond]

For some reason, I keep hearing how great Denmark is. Sanders was kissing its ass last week.

[Gunny]

Military is not everything.

:smoke:

[NightTrain]

They are being flooded with illegals? How are they the greatest nation?


I was being facetious.

[Christie Brinkley]

For some reason, I keep hearing how great Denmark is. Sanders was kissing its ass last week.
Should look at France and what the socialists have done there and this is just one town

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7828&stc=1

Only shops still open are the banks which tells you everything.

[Black Diamond]

Should look at France and what the socialists have done there and this is just one town

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7828&stc=1

Only shops still open are the banks which tells you everything.
In some ways the cold war ended in a tie.

[Christie Brinkley]

In some ways the cold war ended in a tie.
It paused for 20 years.

[Gunny]

Who the fuck started this thread?

Got news for you... we sent YOUR asses packing. And don't confuse the people with our dumb government.

[Vladamir]

Should look at France and what the socialists have done there and this is just one town

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7828&stc=1

Only shops still open are the banks which tells you everything.
#12 It turns out that Americans are very good at locking people away in prison. At 716 per 100,000 members of the population (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/03/21-maps-and-charts-that-prove-america-is-number-one/), the United States has the highest incarceration rate on the entire planet by a very wide margin.
I take it then that the US is the crime capital of the world.

[Christie Brinkley]

Who the fuck started this thread?

Got news for you... we sent YOUR asses packing. And don't confuse the people with our dumb government.
That was when you were the greatest country in the world. I am not insulting you I am just saying the facts. Empires rise and fall. America's empire is falling and in decline.

[Vladamir]

Who the fuck started this thread?

Got news for you... we sent YOUR asses packing. And don't confuse the people with our dumb government.
Not that old chestnut!

[aboutime]

Only while we have a coward, and wuss calling himself the President. Otherwise. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. You should remember..Most of us in America DO remember History, and Refuse to Repeat it!

That goes for every other nation around the World who WISHES we weren't the place People from around the World would DIE to get to, and live freely.

[Gunny]

That was when you were the greatest country in the world. I am not insulting you I am just saying the facts. Empires rise and fall. America's empire is falling and in decline.

And it happens when the wimps and their lawyers take over.

But I got news for you, missy .. we are YOU. We're just a few years behind. My ancestry is Scot and English. Somebody let some damn Angle in. :laugh:

I don't disagree with your comment though. Let a wimp and a lawyer in and it's over.

[Black Diamond]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqcLUqYqrs

Discuss

#1 According to a brand new report that was just released by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (http://www.oecd.org/), the United States has the fattest population in the entire industrialized world by a wide margin.
#2 That same report from the OECD also found that we are number one in child obesity. In fact, at 38 percent (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-u.s-most-obese-fattest-kids-by-a-mile-tops-for-poor-teen-health/article/2573993) our rate of childhood obesity is even higher than our overall rate of obesity.
#3 According to USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/10/public-health-obesity-inactivity-state-rankings/20095261/), the obesity rate in the United States has more than doubled over the past 25 years.
#4 The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/03/21-maps-and-charts-that-prove-america-is-number-one/) has reported that Americans spend an average of 293 minutes a day watching television, which is the most in the world by a wide margin. And as I have discussed previously, more than 90 percent of the “programming” that we absorb is created by just 6 enormously powerful media corporations (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/who-owns-the-media-the-6-monolithic-corporations-that-control-almost-everything-we-watch-hear-and-read).
#5 One study found that the average American spends more than 10 hours a day (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/how-much-time-do-americans-spend-plugged-into-the-matrix-every-day) using some sort of electronic device.
#6 By the time an American child reaches the age of 18, that child will have seen approximately 40,000 murders (http://www.parentstv.org/ptc/publications/reports/stateindustryviolence/main.asp) on television.
#7 The average young American will spend 10,000 hours (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/these-two-traps-are-absolutely-destroying-the-next-generation-of-young-men-in-america) playing video games before the age of 21.
#8 Out of 22 countries studied by the Educational Testing Service (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/americas-millennials-well-educated-but-unskilled/), Americans were dead last in tech proficiency, dead
last in numeracy and only two countries performed worse than us when it came to literacy proficiency.
#9 In more than half of all U.S. states, the highest paid public employee in the state is a football coach (http://deadspin.com/infographic-is-your-states-highest-paid-employee-a-co-489635228).
#10 The percentage of wealth owned by middle class adults is lower in North America (http://www.businessinsider.com/credit-suisse-global-wealth-report-decline-global-middle-class-wealth-2015-10) than it is anywhere else in the world.
#11 Almost half of all Americans (47 percent (http://www.businessinsider.com/half-of-america-doesnt-save-any-money-2015-3)) do not put a single penny out of their paychecks into savings.
#12 It turns out that Americans are very good at locking people away in prison. At 716 per 100,000 members of the population (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/03/21-maps-and-charts-that-prove-america-is-number-one/), the United States has the highest incarceration rate on the entire planet by a very wide margin.
#13 Approximately one-fourth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States) of the entire global prison population is in the United States.
#14 In 2014, police in the United States killed 1,100 people (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/#rBGD2LV7hvVi1tuh.99). During that same year, police in Canada killed14 people (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/#rBGD2LV7hvVi1tuh.99), police in China killed 12 people (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/#rBGD2LV7hvVi1tuh.99) and police in Germany didn’t kill anyone at all.
#15 One recently published study found that one out of every six young Americans (http://time.com/4069935/thief-study/?xid=homepage) has stolen something during the past year.
#16 There are more car thefts in the United States than anywhere else in the world by far (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_car_the-crime-car-thefts).
#17 According to Fox News, approximately 70 percent (http://magazine.foxnews.com/love/cheating-statistics-do-men-cheat-more-women) of married men in the United States admit to having cheated on their wives.
#18 Americans spend far more on health care than anyone else in the world, and yet we only rank 26th (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy) in life expectancy and our entire health care system has been transformed into a giant money making scam (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/hospitals-are-blatantly-ripping-us-off).
#19 According to a study conducted by the Mayo Clinic, nearly 70 percent (http://www.mayoclinic.org/news2013-rst/7543.html) of all Americans are on at least one prescription drug, and an astounding 20 percent of all Americans are on at least five prescription drugs.
#20 According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, 31 percent (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/31-percent-of-all-food-in-america-is-wasted-and-why-that-is-about-to-end) of all food in the United States gets wasted. In case you were wondering, that amounts to approximately 133 billion pounds of food a year.
#21 In 2013, women earned 60 percent (http://www.npr.org/2014/07/17/326175817/the-modern-american-man-charted) of all bachelor’s degrees that were awarded that year in the United States.
#22 A survey conducted by the Barna Group discovered that 77 percent (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/america-is-done-only-29-percent-of-americans-want-to-cut-off-funding-for-planned-parenthood) of Christian men in America in the 18 to 30-year-old age bracket view pornography at least monthly.
#23 There are more than 4 million adult websites (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630438/Pornography-treated-like-drink-driving-teenager-smoking-experts-argue-widespread-U-S-MAJOR-health-crisis.html) on the Internet, and they get more traffic than Netflix, Amazon and Twitter combined.
#24 70 percent (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-most-americans-unhappy-at-work/) of Americans do not “feel engaged or inspired at their jobs”.
#25 When LBJ’s “War on Poverty” began, less than 10 percent (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/03/22/the-real-reason-the-american-dream-is-unraveling/) of all U.S. children were growing up in single parent households. Today, that number has skyrocketed to 33 percent (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/03/22/the-real-reason-the-american-dream-is-unraveling/).
#26 In 1950, less than 5 percent (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/03/22/the-real-reason-the-american-dream-is-unraveling/) of all babies in America were born to unmarried parents. Today, that number is over 40 percent (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/03/22/the-real-reason-the-american-dream-is-unraveling/).
#27 According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there are 20 million (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/chlamydia-sets-us-record-most-cases-reportable-disease) new cases of sexually-transmitted disease in the United States each year.
#28 Today, the United States has the highest STD infection rate in the entire industrialized world (http://globalgrind.com/news/cdc-says-us-highest-rates-stds-stats-in-world-details).
#29 According to a survey that was just released within the last 30 days, only 29 percent (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/america-is-done-only-29-percent-of-americans-want-to-cut-off-funding-for-planned-parenthood) of Americans want to cut off federal funding for Planned Parenthood even after all of the shocking undercover videos that were released this year.
#30 America has the highest rate of illegal drug use (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/01/health/webmd/main4222322.shtml) on the entire planet.
#31 Doctors in the United States write more than 250 million prescriptions (http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/70-million-americans-taking-mind-altering-drugs/) for antidepressants each year.
#32 One survey of 50-year-old men in the U.S. found that only 12 percent (http://www.esquire.com/features/facts-about-men-1010) of them said that they were “very happy”.
#33 Every single year, the United States has the largest trade deficit in the entire world (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/historical/gands.pdf) by a very wide margin. But most Americans still don’t seem concerned that thousands of businesses and millions of good jobs have been leaving our country.
#34 As you read this article, there are 102.6 million (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/right-now-there-are-102-6-million-working-age-americans-that-do-not-have-jobs) working age Americans that do not have a job.
#35 We are supposed to have a government “of the people, by the people, for the people”, but only 25 percent (http://www.alternet.org/story/90161/ignorant_america%3A_just_how_stupid_are_we)of all Americans know how long U.S. Senators are elected for (6 years), and only 20 percent (http://www.alternet.org/story/90161/ignorant_america%3A_just_how_stupid_are_we) of all Americans know how many U.S. senators there are in total.
#36 On average, we have been stealing more than 100 million dollars (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/it-is-mathematically-impossible-to-pay-off-all-of-our-debt) from future generations of Americans every single hour of every single day since Barack Obama entered the White House.

Many of those facts indicate we have too much freedom.

[jimnyc]

Many of those facts indicate we have too much freedom.

I'm afraid that some don't fully know what freedom is. Many folks will even make excuses for their lack of various freedoms.

[Vladamir]

And it happens when the wimps and their lawyers take over.

But I got news for you, missy .. we are YOU. We're just a few years behind. My ancestry is Scot and English. Somebody let some damn Angle in. :laugh:

I don't disagree with your comment though. Let a wimp and a lawyer in and it's over.
Yep in more ways than one gunny,constant war finished us off and we have been on a downward slide ever since.That is empires for you though.

[aboutime]

Many of those facts indicate we have too much freedom.


Which also explains why...such a small number of people leave the USA, while the rest of the people, around the World are willing to give everything up, and leave their homes to COME HERE???

[Christie Brinkley]

And it happens when the wimps and their lawyers take over.

But I got news for you, missy .. we are YOU. We're just a few years behind. My ancestry is Scot and English. Somebody let some damn Angle in. :laugh:

I don't disagree with your comment though. Let a wimp and a lawyer in and it's over.
Bad leadership/corruption/losing moral high ground/increased decadence.

Look at how other empires fell down and declined. History repeats itself.

[Christie Brinkley]

Which also explains why...such a small number of people leave the USA, while the rest of the people, around the World are willing to give everything up, and leave their homes to COME HERE???
People leave their homes for the US for higher welfare and higher wages.

In the 1930's people went to America for freedom from tyranny and a better life.

[jimnyc]

People leave their homes for the US for higher welfare and higher wages.

In the 1930's people went to America for freedom from tyranny and a better life.

Is the UK broke? Are the wages really THAT low over there? Does the UK and other countries not offer welfare, or have the ability to help others out? No other countries offer higher wages than where these folks are coming from? LOL

[Christie Brinkley]

Is the UK broke? Are the wages really THAT low over there? Does the UK and other countries not offer welfare, or have the ability to help others out? No other countries offer higher wages than where these folks are coming from? LOL
The average UK wage is ten times what it is in places like Romania.


Romanians don't come to the UK to escape tyranny, they come for money. Same logic applies to the United States today.

[Black Diamond]

Which also explains why...such a small number of people leave the USA, while the rest of the people, around the World are willing to give everything up, and leave their homes to COME HERE???

Do they come here for freedom or for free stuff?

[Gunny]

Do they come here for freedom or for free stuff?

Pretty much.

[jimnyc]

The average UK wage is ten times what it is in places like Romania.


Romanians don't come to the UK to escape tyranny, they come for money. Same logic applies to the United States today.

But then why aren't all the people that are coming to the USA year after year - why aren't they choosing other countries that offer high wages, such as the UK? Maybe so that they can be closer to Obama?

[jimnyc]

Do they come here for freedom or for free stuff?

They only get the free stuff because of the freedoms. Try crawling into another country, somehow getting rights on day one, getting fed and clothed, and then taken care of as one goes along. Yup, the greatest country in the world - I forgot to mention is also compromised of the most charitable people in the world, by far.

[Christie Brinkley]

But then why aren't all the people that are coming to the USA year after year - why aren't they choosing other countries that offer high wages, such as the UK? Maybe so that they can be closer to Obama?
If you have almost a whole continent (central+southern america) in the same situation (income wise) and then you have 1 country in the north which has higher wages and higher welfare then you would go there?

[Christie Brinkley]

They only get the free stuff because of the freedoms. Try crawling into another country, somehow getting rights on day one, getting fed and clothed, and then taken care of as one goes along. Yup, the greatest country in the world - I forgot to mention is also compromised of the most charitable people in the world, by far.
It is not North Korea in central and southern america.

[jimnyc]

If you have almost a whole continent (central+southern america) in the same situation (income wise) and then you have 1 country in the north which has higher wages and higher welfare then you would go there?

Honestly? My ass goes to where I will be happiest, not where I would make the most money.

Also, we have folks immigrating here from all over the world. The people immigrating here from around the world - there is no other country that can show the same immigration numbers. And trust me, I'm not bragging, although I know it's because we're a great country. Personally I don't think our country can sustain so many people year after year after year. But here they come anyway. Many of them going right past less free countries to get here. Out of ALL of folks immigrating around the world, the USA gets about 20% of them each year.

[Vladamir]

Honestly? My ass goes to where I will be happiest, not where I would make the most money.

Also, we have folks immigrating here from all over the world. The people immigrating here from around the world - there is no other country that can show the same immigration numbers. And trust me, I'm not bragging, although I know it's because we're a great country. Personally I don't think our country can sustain so many people year after year after year. But here they come anyway. Many of them going right past less free countries to get here. Out of ALL of folks immigrating around the world, the USA gets about 20% of them each year.
How familiar does that sound then Christie?

[jimnyc]

It is not North Korea in central and southern america.

Then why are 20% of them not going to the UK - is the UK somehow like North Korea?

[Christie Brinkley]

Honestly? My ass goes to where I will be happiest, not where I would make the most money.

Also, we have folks immigrating here from all over the world. The people immigrating here from around the world - there is no other country that can show the same immigration numbers. And trust me, I'm not bragging, although I know it's because we're a great country. Personally I don't think our country can sustain so many people year after year after year. But here they come anyway. Many of them going right past less free countries to get here. Out of ALL of folks immigrating around the world, the USA gets about 20% of them each year.
Maybe if you were poor living in a country where you earn around 10 times less as the average person in the United States would you really understand why people in the 21st century leave their homeland.

[jimnyc]

How familiar does that sound then Christie?

I would imagine that facts sound similar, even if you hear it from 2 different people. :dunno:

[Christie Brinkley]

Then why are 20% of them not going to the UK - is the UK somehow like North Korea?
They can't afford plane tickets.

[Vladamir]

I would imagine that facts sound similar, even if you hear it from 2 different people. :dunno:
You can go on pretty much any British forum and hear people saying exactly the same thing,at which point they will be shouted down.I wasn't knocking your post.

[jimnyc]

They can't afford plane tickets.

LOL :laugh:

Ok, thanks for the comedic value this evening. I didn't intend a thread on something I'm already aware of. I'm out and on to the sporting world. Enjoy!

[Black Diamond]

They only get the free stuff because of the freedoms. Try crawling into another country, somehow getting rights on day one, getting fed and clothed, and then taken care of as one goes along. Yup, the greatest country in the world - I forgot to mention is also compromised of the most charitable people in the world, by far.

Does the fact we give people free stuff make us or greater or less great?

[Christie Brinkley]

LOL :laugh:

Ok, thanks for the comedic value this evening. I didn't intend a thread on something I'm already aware of. I'm out and on to the sporting world. Enjoy!
These people are not rich, that is why they are going to America!

They can't afford to get tickets to be whizzing across the Atlantic. Closest and cheapest they want.

[Black Diamond]

These people are not rich, that is why they are going to America!

They can't afford to get tickets to be whizzing across the Atlantic. Closest and cheapest they want.

So America is less than land of opportunity than the land of handouts..

[Black Diamond]

If America isn't the greatest nation on Earth, which one is?

[Christie Brinkley]

So America is less than land of opportunity than the land of handouts..
It is just money in general whether that be through welfare or through work or a combination of both.

[Christie Brinkley]

If America isn't the greatest nation on Earth, which one is?
Switzerland? At least the place is neutral and guarantees gun rights.

[Vladamir]

Switzerland? At least the place is neutral and guarantees gun rights.
They often come top of the happiest nations and have referendum politics where the people make the major choices.

[Christie Brinkley]

They often come top of the happiest nations and have referendum politics where the people make the major choices.
The Swiss are informed as shown in recent election results.

[Black Diamond]

They often come top of the happiest nations and have referendum politics where the people make the major choices.

Denmark won the happiest Nation award.

[Vladamir]

Denmark won the happiest Nation award.
I didn't say everytime I bet the swiss were second.

[Black Diamond]

I didn't say everytime I bet the swiss were second.

Yeah I don't know if they grant the award every year. Or if it was one study.

[Black Diamond]

The Swiss are informed as shown in recent election results.

Well if that's the criteria, you win. I concede right now.

[Vladamir]

Yeah I don't know if they grant the award every year. Or if it was one study.
Yep it is every year,they aslo have some real freedom with direct democracy.I know you have some of it but not anything like the level they have.Their politicians actually do have to represent what the electorate decide.

[Christie Brinkley]

Yep it is every year,they aslo have some real freedom with direct democracy.I know you have some of it but not anything like the level they have.Their politicians actually do have to represent what the electorate decide.
They also have nuclear bunker places for every citizen. Some people say that is paranoia I say it is being prepared. No wonder Switzerland has been so successful.

Switzerland truly is the beauty of what a nation state should be.

[Black Diamond]

They also have nuclear bunker places for every citizen. Some people say that is paranoia I say it is being prepared. No wonder Switzerland has been so successful.

Switzerland truly is the beauty of what a nation state should be.
Why have a nuclear bunker if you're neutral?

[Christie Brinkley]

The powers that be have left Switzerland alone on the condition it keeps its banking laws the same.

[Christie Brinkley]

Look at their ruling party- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party

National Conservatism
Euroscepticism
Right wing populism
Isolationism


Their slogan

"Swiss quality, the party of the middle class"

Amazing, real smart people in Switzerland. I bet a lot of them know what is going on in the rest of the world.

[Black Diamond]

Look at their ruling party- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party

National Conservatism
Euroscepticism
Right wing populism
Isolationism


Their slogan

"Swiss quality, the party of the middle class"

Amazing, real smart people in Switzerland. I bet a lot of them know what is going on in the rest of the world.

They all have to learn German and French. Maybe Italian too?

[Black Diamond]

Look at their ruling party- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_People%27s_Party

National Conservatism
Euroscepticism
Right wing populism
Isolationism


Their slogan

"Swiss quality, the party of the middle class"

Amazing, real smart people in Switzerland. I bet a lot of them know what is going on in the rest of the world.
Again, if that's your criteria ......

[Christie Brinkley]

Again, if that's your criteria ......
Proof is in the pudding. They reject the second party which calls for the end of gun ownership in Switzerland and wants immediate entry into the European Union.

That is a death sentence for prosperity and freedom.

[Vladamir]

Again, if that's your criteria ......
Well in all honesty if they are the first or second happiest people in the world,it can't be all bad.

[Black Diamond]

Proof is in the pudding. They reject the second party which calls for the end of gun ownership in Switzerland and wants immediate entry into the European Union.

That is a death sentence for prosperity and freedom.
No I mean if criteria is that citizens know a lot about what goes on in the word.. Americans would lose that battle on the average every time.

[Black Diamond]

Well in all honesty if they are the first or second happiest people in the world,it can't be all bad.

Maybe they all like skiing...

[Christie Brinkley]

No I mean if criteria is that citizens know a lot about what goes on in the word.. Americans would lose that battle on the average every time.
Oh yeah 100%. The key to ensuring freedom is to have an intelligent and informed public. America has neither.

The elites found out in the late 1800's that people were becoming too informed, they were reading books and understanding the world.

In 1903 the Rockefeller's founded the General Education Board which was to increase control over what was taught within schools to children. Look at how the schooling is the United States today.

[aboutime]

No I mean if criteria is that citizens know a lot about what goes on in the word.. Americans would lose that battle on the average every time.


Can't disagree with you on that one BD. Our education system is so backward, not even today's teachers (if we dare call them that) have any notion about our History, or Real life...away from their Twitter, and Facebook accounts where their need to IMPRESS other dummies slows their ability to understand Reality.

The democrats, and Obama enjoy, and need Americans to be uninformed, uneducated, and dependent on Free Money, and Stuff for their lifetime. That's how Dems win elections all the time. LIES are TRUTH liberally speaking.

[Noir]

They put ice in their tea - Greatness can not settle at the end of such a reckless path.

[Christie Brinkley]

Can't disagree with you on that one BD. Our education system is so backward, not even today's teachers (if we dare call them that) have any notion about our History, or Real life...away from their Twitter, and Facebook accounts where their need to IMPRESS other dummies slows their ability to understand Reality.

The democrats, and Obama enjoy, and need Americans to be uninformed, uneducated, and dependent on Free Money, and Stuff for their lifetime. That's how Dems win elections all the time. LIES are TRUTH liberally speaking.
You have metal detectors and security guards like prisons in many city schools. I see new videos emerge on liveleak almost everyday of teachers being beaten up by students and fights happening everyday?

Young people have been the most damaged by this. This has happened because of the media and the people who control it. Do they really want an informed and knowledgeable population that is aware of what is going on?

This was in 1981

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRBZDmf1jSw

[Vladamir]

Maybe they all like skiing...
That made me smile,they must do.

[DragonStryk72]

We've got a lot of problems, and most of it, more or less, comes down to one thing: Factionalization. With all of America broken up into our little factional fights, we waste a ton of our time bickering, when we could be making actual repairs.

The factions each have their facts, figures, and such that back them up, but no one seems to be willing to budge. This, in the end, is the fault of our political leaders. They created these factions, and now use them to keep themselves elected, unable to understand the damage they've wrought, even to their own team.

Our nation is founded on Unity, and as such, when we go to bickering with one another, we falter, and begin to fall apart.

This is why we need a President who can start to mend the divide, bring both sides back closer to center.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Many of those facts indicate we have too much freedom.

Most of them indicate the wealth we have(or once did have)....
Crime and stealing highest were the wealth is since it takes having something worth stealing to inspire more stealing. Simple logic-- communist nations very little around to steal and even in Europe under so-called democratic governments same applies--, since socialist there have so affected the level of wealth and standards of living there also..
Currently we have in charge a traitor, a lying bastard, a socialistic /muslim in hiding.
If 2016 election brings in somebody else and the current maggot ever leaves--we may rebound somewhat.-Tyr

[fj1200]

Did I miss who the greatest was if not us?

[jimnyc]

Did I miss who the greatest was if not us?

I think it was Mexico. They offer great beaches, some of the best drugs, and a free pathway to the United States of America. :)

[fj1200]

Well sign me up for the DP celebrity cruise to Mexico then. :cool:

[CSM]

Well sign me up for the DP celebrity cruise to Mexico then. :cool:

DP has celebrities???

[jimnyc]

DP has celebrities???

If you take a cruise through Mexico you may be just lucky enough to see Maineman?

[Perianne]

If you take a cruise through Mexico you may be just lucky enough to see Maineman?

Didn't we recently have a Mexican here? Rat?

[Black Diamond]

I think it was Mexico. They offer great beaches, some of the best drugs, and a free pathway to the United States of America. :)

That was a sneaky answer. :laugh:

[jimnyc]

Didn't we recently have a Mexican here? Rat?

That's right, wonder where he went, he seemed pretty cool.

[PixieStix]

Don't mean to crash the party


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqcLUqYqrs

"Freedom and Freedom, so let's keep it that way" A quote from the video.
The United States of America is still the greatest country in the world. obama is just the President, but WE are the people. That is what makes us superior. We were born liberated. Thanks to the greatest Military ever!

[Rat]

People love insulting America. Funny thing though those who do it most choose to continue live here.

America is greatest country to me. They take me, siblings, and parents in and give us opportunity. My parent hard workers and made best of opportunity. Because of America I was lucky and honored to serve in military. Because of America I got to be police officer after service. Because of America I now have good job that pays well and one I love. Because of America my children got good education and college. Because of America I have nice house, food in fridge, and money in bank.

I owe America everything and grateful for what it gave me and happy to be called an American. I have much pride in Mexico and my heritage but America is one who take family in and give us chance to have success. I will never be ungrateful or take what they did for granted. I love my country and always will. There no other country I rather live.

[PixieStix]

People love insulting America. Funny thing though those who do it most choose to continue live here.

America is greatest country to me. They take me, siblings, and parents in and give us opportunity. My parent hard workers and made best of opportunity. Because of America I was lucky and honored to serve in military. Because of America I got to be police officer after service. Because of America I now have good job that pays well and one I love. Because of America my children got good education and college. Because of America I have nice house, food in fridge, and money in bank.

I owe America everything and grateful for what it gave me and happy to be called an American. I have much pride in Mexico and my heritage but America is one who take family in and give us chance to have success. I will never be ungrateful or take what they did for granted. I love my country and always will. There no other country I rather live.


And we are better with you in this country

[fj1200]

The US is the greatest country because it can DO something great. Not many other countries would and even fewer could.

[Drummond]

They also have nuclear bunker places for every citizen. Some people say that is paranoia I say it is being prepared. No wonder Switzerland has been so successful.

Switzerland truly is the beauty of what a nation state should be.

They are seriously flawed in one particular respect, however. They have a long history - one might even call it a tradition ? - of neutrality.

Consider WWII, and the horrors of the Nazis. Switzerland had no difficulty in maintaining its neutrality throughout that period. I've heard of no regret from Switzerland that it did so, even after the revelations of Nazi inhumanity became fully known to the world.

A country whose people are more unshakeably interested in their own, selfish, day-to-day material comforts than fighting for decent principle and against tyranny .. has to be one that's fundamentally flawed, in my humble opinion !

[Drummond]

The US is the greatest country because it can DO something great. Not many other countries would and even fewer could.

That WOULD be a fair point to make, were it not for Obama's calculated - apparent - spinelessness on the world stage. Part of what makes a country great is not merely having the potential for greatness, but achieving it, too. Obama is busily downgrading your country's greatness precisely because he wants to reduce America's greatness to a mere remembered potential, rather than show it to be an actual, ongoing, fact of life.

[Gunny]

They are seriously flawed in one particular respect, however. They have a long history - one might even call it a tradition ? - of neutrality.

Consider WWII, and the horrors of the Nazis. Switzerland had no difficulty in maintaining its neutrality throughout that period. I've heard of no regret from Switzerland that it did so, even after the revelations of Nazi inhumanity became fully known to the world.

A country whose people are more unshakeably interested in their own, selfish, day-to-day material comforts than fighting for decent principle and against tyranny .. has to be one that's fundamentally flawed, in my humble opinion !

If I recall correctly, Switzerland would be a hard country to invade. If you note, the Nazi's invaded the lowlands where they could run their tanks. Apparently, even Hitler was smart enough to know you need boots on the ground. Unlike a certain current President of the US.

Anywhere the Nazi's had to deal with elevation and/or water, they struggled. Hungary, Greece. Everyone in Switzerland had to do years compulsory service and they all had firearms. Gee, there's that armed citizenship thing again. Who knows what Hitler was thinking? He was doing okay until he decided to invade Russia. Guess he didn't read Napoleon's book.

[fj1200]

... Obama's ...

BO sucks but he'll be gone.

[Gunny]

BO sucks but he'll be gone.

Yeah? Before he does how much more damage? I want him gone NOW and if our lawmakers had the balls, they could shut him down like they shut down Andrew Johnson.

[Perianne]

Yeah? Before he does how much more damage? I want him gone NOW and if our lawmakers had the balls, they could shut him down like they shut down Andrew Johnson.

Or Lincoln. I am amazed no one has tried to Lincolnize Obama. Not that I would approve.

[jimnyc]

8 days later, and by far and easily still the best and most powerful country in the world. :salute:

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

8 days later, and by far and easily still the best and most powerful country in the world. :salute:

AND THE OBAMA HAS HOW MANY MORE DAYS TO WORK TO DESTROY THAT??--:mad::mad::mad:--TYR

[jimnyc]

AND THE OBAMA HAS HOW MANY MORE DAYS TO WORK TO DESTROY THAT??--:mad::mad::mad:--TYR

Countdown until Obama is OUT OF OFFICE http://c.tadst.com/gfx/timer/zoom.png (http://www.timeanddate.com/counters/fullscreen.html?mode=m&iso=20161108T07&year=2016&month=11&day=8&hour=7&min=0&sec=0&p0=611&msg=Countdown%20until%20Obama%20is%20OUT%20OF%20OF FICE)

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[Gunny]

Or Lincoln. I am amazed no one has tried to Lincolnize Obama. Not that I would approve.

You don't read around much. Lincoln has been outdone in his unconstitutional crap by Obama. I've been pretty outspoken about it.

[Perianne]

You don't read around much. Lincoln has been outdone in his unconstitutional crap by Obama. I've been pretty outspoken about it.

I wasn't referring to how he governed, I was referring to how he died.

[Perianne]

Countdown until Obama is OUT OF OFFICE

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I think it's less than that. :)

[Gunny]

I wasn't referring to how he governed, I was referring to how he died.

Trying to get me going on what I've been wishing for for about 6 years and am surprised it hasn't happened?

Hypothetically, at the time, you'd have to pull off a Lincoln-like plot. And succeed. Prez, VP and Speaker of the House. I think the latter two are the only thing that has kept the former alive..

[DLT]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqcLUqYqrs

Discuss

#1 According to a brand new report that was just released by the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (http://www.oecd.org/), the United States has the fattest population in the entire industrialized world by a wide margin.
#2 That same report from the OECD also found that we are number one in child obesity. In fact, at 38 percent (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/report-u.s-most-obese-fattest-kids-by-a-mile-tops-for-poor-teen-health/article/2573993) our rate of childhood obesity is even higher than our overall rate of obesity.
#3 According to USA Today (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/10/public-health-obesity-inactivity-state-rankings/20095261/), the obesity rate in the United States has more than doubled over the past 25 years.
#4 The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/03/21-maps-and-charts-that-prove-america-is-number-one/) has reported that Americans spend an average of 293 minutes a day watching television, which is the most in the world by a wide margin. And as I have discussed previously, more than 90 percent of the “programming” that we absorb is created by just 6 enormously powerful media corporations (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/who-owns-the-media-the-6-monolithic-corporations-that-control-almost-everything-we-watch-hear-and-read).
#5 One study found that the average American spends more than 10 hours a day (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/how-much-time-do-americans-spend-plugged-into-the-matrix-every-day) using some sort of electronic device.
#6 By the time an American child reaches the age of 18, that child will have seen approximately 40,000 murders (http://www.parentstv.org/ptc/publications/reports/stateindustryviolence/main.asp) on television.
#7 The average young American will spend 10,000 hours (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/these-two-traps-are-absolutely-destroying-the-next-generation-of-young-men-in-america) playing video games before the age of 21.
#8 Out of 22 countries studied by the Educational Testing Service (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/americas-millennials-well-educated-but-unskilled/), Americans were dead last in tech proficiency, dead
last in numeracy and only two countries performed worse than us when it came to literacy proficiency.
#9 In more than half of all U.S. states, the highest paid public employee in the state is a football coach (http://deadspin.com/infographic-is-your-states-highest-paid-employee-a-co-489635228).
#10 The percentage of wealth owned by middle class adults is lower in North America (http://www.businessinsider.com/credit-suisse-global-wealth-report-decline-global-middle-class-wealth-2015-10) than it is anywhere else in the world.
#11 Almost half of all Americans (47 percent (http://www.businessinsider.com/half-of-america-doesnt-save-any-money-2015-3)) do not put a single penny out of their paychecks into savings.
#12 It turns out that Americans are very good at locking people away in prison. At 716 per 100,000 members of the population (http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/03/21-maps-and-charts-that-prove-america-is-number-one/), the United States has the highest incarceration rate on the entire planet by a very wide margin.
#13 Approximately one-fourth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States) of the entire global prison population is in the United States.
#14 In 2014, police in the United States killed 1,100 people (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/#rBGD2LV7hvVi1tuh.99). During that same year, police in Canada killed14 people (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/#rBGD2LV7hvVi1tuh.99), police in China killed 12 people (http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-kill-citizens-70-times-rate-first-world-nations/#rBGD2LV7hvVi1tuh.99) and police in Germany didn’t kill anyone at all.
#15 One recently published study found that one out of every six young Americans (http://time.com/4069935/thief-study/?xid=homepage) has stolen something during the past year.
#16 There are more car thefts in the United States than anywhere else in the world by far (http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_car_the-crime-car-thefts).
#17 According to Fox News, approximately 70 percent (http://magazine.foxnews.com/love/cheating-statistics-do-men-cheat-more-women) of married men in the United States admit to having cheated on their wives.
#18 Americans spend far more on health care than anyone else in the world, and yet we only rank 26th (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy) in life expectancy and our entire health care system has been transformed into a giant money making scam (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/hospitals-are-blatantly-ripping-us-off).
#19 According to a study conducted by the Mayo Clinic, nearly 70 percent (http://www.mayoclinic.org/news2013-rst/7543.html) of all Americans are on at least one prescription drug, and an astounding 20 percent of all Americans are on at least five prescription drugs.
#20 According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, 31 percent (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/31-percent-of-all-food-in-america-is-wasted-and-why-that-is-about-to-end) of all food in the United States gets wasted. In case you were wondering, that amounts to approximately 133 billion pounds of food a year.
#21 In 2013, women earned 60 percent (http://www.npr.org/2014/07/17/326175817/the-modern-american-man-charted) of all bachelor’s degrees that were awarded that year in the United States.
#22 A survey conducted by the Barna Group discovered that 77 percent (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/america-is-done-only-29-percent-of-americans-want-to-cut-off-funding-for-planned-parenthood) of Christian men in America in the 18 to 30-year-old age bracket view pornography at least monthly.
#23 There are more than 4 million adult websites (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2630438/Pornography-treated-like-drink-driving-teenager-smoking-experts-argue-widespread-U-S-MAJOR-health-crisis.html) on the Internet, and they get more traffic than Netflix, Amazon and Twitter combined.
#24 70 percent (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-most-americans-unhappy-at-work/) of Americans do not “feel engaged or inspired at their jobs”.
#25 When LBJ’s “War on Poverty” began, less than 10 percent (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/03/22/the-real-reason-the-american-dream-is-unraveling/) of all U.S. children were growing up in single parent households. Today, that number has skyrocketed to 33 percent (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/03/22/the-real-reason-the-american-dream-is-unraveling/).
#26 In 1950, less than 5 percent (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/03/22/the-real-reason-the-american-dream-is-unraveling/) of all babies in America were born to unmarried parents. Today, that number is over 40 percent (http://www.theburningplatform.com/2015/03/22/the-real-reason-the-american-dream-is-unraveling/).
#27 According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, there are 20 million (http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/chlamydia-sets-us-record-most-cases-reportable-disease) new cases of sexually-transmitted disease in the United States each year.
#28 Today, the United States has the highest STD infection rate in the entire industrialized world (http://globalgrind.com/news/cdc-says-us-highest-rates-stds-stats-in-world-details).
#29 According to a survey that was just released within the last 30 days, only 29 percent (http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/america-is-done-only-29-percent-of-americans-want-to-cut-off-funding-for-planned-parenthood) of Americans want to cut off federal funding for Planned Parenthood even after all of the shocking undercover videos that were released this year.
#30 America has the highest rate of illegal drug use (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/07/01/health/webmd/main4222322.shtml) on the entire planet.
#31 Doctors in the United States write more than 250 million prescriptions (http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/70-million-americans-taking-mind-altering-drugs/) for antidepressants each year.
#32 One survey of 50-year-old men in the U.S. found that only 12 percent (http://www.esquire.com/features/facts-about-men-1010) of them said that they were “very happy”.
#33 Every single year, the United States has the largest trade deficit in the entire world (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/statistics/historical/gands.pdf) by a very wide margin. But most Americans still don’t seem concerned that thousands of businesses and millions of good jobs have been leaving our country.
#34 As you read this article, there are 102.6 million (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/right-now-there-are-102-6-million-working-age-americans-that-do-not-have-jobs) working age Americans that do not have a job.
#35 We are supposed to have a government “of the people, by the people, for the people”, but only 25 percent (http://www.alternet.org/story/90161/ignorant_america%3A_just_how_stupid_are_we)of all Americans know how long U.S. Senators are elected for (6 years), and only 20 percent (http://www.alternet.org/story/90161/ignorant_america%3A_just_how_stupid_are_we) of all Americans know how many U.S. senators there are in total.
#36 On average, we have been stealing more than 100 million dollars (http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/it-is-mathematically-impossible-to-pay-off-all-of-our-debt) from future generations of Americans every single hour of every single day since Barack Obama entered the White House.

Lol! I couldn't even get past #5 before laughing myself silly at this "report". Soooo....by these idiots' standards....I suppose that the various nations in Africa, for instance, would rate highest on that dubious scale for having the least "obese" kids (more like millions of scrawny and starving kids)....and for not having any (or as many) demonic devices like cell phones, video games and such (much less electricity) to drive their nations' ""ratings"" down. So the USA's technological advances in electronics causes us to rate lower than other nations? Pure asinine idiocy.

A nation is great based on the freedoms that nation provides its citizens....and the choices and chances for success that living in that nation gives its citizens...which still makes America THE greatest nation (despite the best attempts of the Marxist Obama drones like Soros) on the planet....and which explains why millions upon millions of people are still flooding into America....as we speak.

Also....the USA gives more $$$ and aid to struggling nations and to the poor, provides MORE aid to victims of natural disasters around the world, and is always there with our support and our military if and when needed.... with, (unlike Russia), no future gains required from those nations and no ulterior motives (vested interest) in order for us to give our aid.

So basically, this is just ...

BULLSHIT.

[fj1200]

Yeah? Before he does how much more damage? I want him gone NOW and if our lawmakers had the balls, they could shut him down like they shut down Andrew Johnson.

He's not going to do much more in his remaining days. A Republican Congress has done that effectively for a few years now.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

He's not going to do much more in his remaining days. A Republican Congress has done that effectively for a few years now.

Which is it--or they the roadblocks /qrid lock claimed by the traitorous dems or are they advancing all this agenda you just laid claim to?
As you attempt to shift emphasis away from obama's agenda and blame the republicans for not successfully blocking most of it.
If what they have done is so bad for the nation you had best present exactly whose agenda has been being advanced these last 7 years junior.
Instead you lay blame at Republican feet instead of the bambastard that you try to cleverly protect, every damn chance you get and its ffing sickening to me that others don't call you on your duplicity and RINO tactics. - Tyr

[fj1200]

Which is it :blah:

Your imaginatory musings are not my concern. BO sucks; he will be gone; the US will still be the greatest country.

[Black Diamond]

He's not going to do much more in his remaining days. A Republican Congress has done that effectively for a few years now.

Yeah the Republican Congress did a great job stopping the Iran deal.

[Perianne]

Yeah the Republican Congress did a great job stopping the Iran deal.

And agreeing to unlimited spending by our president in the budget deal.

[Black Diamond]

And agreeing to unlimited spending by our president in the budget deal.

That too. Amazing how Gingrich kept his foot on Clinton's throat. And bonehead bent over for Obama.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

Your imaginatory musings are not my concern. BO sucks; he will be gone; the US will still be the greatest country.
Nothing imaginary about what I cited and that is exactly why you just replied as you did.
You can not refute nor find a good way to spin away from it.
So like so many times before you use that "blah blah crap' and then pretend that you've prove something to be false....
Such childish tactics fool nobody except maybe some fool that already agrees with your views, tactics and dishonorable methods.

When my previous points made are so good , you use that edited quote crap or do not quote me at all while you pretend to have addressed the points made which is exactly how libs do!
Only the blind can not see that.. -Tyr

[fj1200]

Yeah the Republican Congress did a great job stopping the Iran deal.

I'd agree they muffed that one.


And agreeing to unlimited spending by our president in the budget deal.

Not exactly but nothing like some good hyperbole.


... you pretend to have addressed...

I don't pretend to address them, I don't care about them. If you want to have arguments with your imagination I shall not stand in your way.

[Jeff]

When it comes to Putin I wish my country had a leader like ME. Diplomacy with me is I'd turn my military on his butt and have to go to the john and then play Hillary --- "I didn't know". Sorry we wiped out your country. I was going potty.:laugh:

I'm sorry but no one liked that video. :laugh:

[Perianne]

And agreeing to unlimited spending by our president in the budget deal.



Not exactly but nothing like some good hyperbole.







The deal suspends the limit on borrowing until March 16, 2017, leaving the next fight for Obama’s successor.

http://thehill.com/blogs/floor-action/senate/258629-senate-approves-budget-deal-in-overnight-vote


fj1200, if only you were nearly as smart and clever as you find yourself to be. I cannot believe you behave in real life as you do on here. Someone would have whipped your butt by now to the point of you being little more than a vegetable on a ventilator.

[fj1200]

fj1200

Your link didn't prove your point; You should try working from a standpoint of truth and not hyperbole. And I'll take my cues about behavior from the non-racists among us.

But I guess I didn't realize that informing someone that they engage in hyperbole were fightin' words. :dunno:

[Gunny]

Yeah? Before he does how much more damage? I want him gone NOW and if our lawmakers had the balls, they could shut him down like they shut down Andrew Johnson.

Let me answer my own question. He's about to put 6K drug dealers on the street because dealing drugs is "non-violent". What a crock of sh*t THAT is. I guess providing a slow death is better than just shooting someone. :rolleyes:

[fj1200]

Let me answer my own question. He's about to put 6K drug dealers on the street because dealing drugs is "non-violent". What a crock of sh*t THAT is. I guess providing a slow death is better than just shooting someone. :rolleyes:

Hmmm.


The Justice Department is set to release about 6,000 inmates early from prison — the largest one-time release of federal prisoners — in an effort to reduce overcrowding and provide relief to drug offenders who received harsh sentences over the past three decades, according to U.S. officials.The inmates from federal prisons nationwide will be set free by the department’s Bureau of Prisons between Oct. 30 and Nov. 2. About two-thirds of them will go to halfway houses and home confinement before being put on supervised release. About one-third are foreign citizens who will be quickly deported, officials said.
The early releases follow action by the U.S. Sentencing Commission — an independent agency that sets sentencing policies for federal crimes — that reduced the potential punishment for future drug offenders last year and then made that change retroactive.
The commission’s action is separate from an effort by President Obama (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-commutes-sentences-of-46-non-violent-drug-offenders/2015/07/13/b533f61e-2974-11e5-a250-42bd812efc09_story.html) to grant clemency to certain nonviolent drug offenders, an initiative that has resulted in the early release of 89 inmates.
The panel estimated that its change in sentencing guidelines eventually could result in 46,000 of the nation’s approximately 100,000 drug offenders in federal prison qualifying for early release. The 6,000 figure, which has not been reported previously, is the first tranche in that process.

“The number of people who will be affected is quite exceptional,” said Mary Price, general counsel for Families Against Mandatory Minimums, an advocacy group that supports sentencing reform.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-department-about-to-free-6000-prisoners-largest-one-time-release/2015/10/06/961f4c9a-6ba2-11e5-aa5b-f78a98956699_story.html

[Gunny]

Hmmm.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/justice-department-about-to-free-6000-prisoners-largest-one-time-release/2015/10/06/961f4c9a-6ba2-11e5-aa5b-f78a98956699_story.html

They need to quit pretending no one can see through their game. When I was a teen, you didn't bust the user and setting them up was entrapment. Until some moron bean counter figured out pushing users through the legal system netted more revenue than setting up a dealer for months and getting a one-time bust. So they set up the addicts who just need help instead. Yet I could legally drink myself blind enough to destroy my garage.

And now, President Numbnuts wants to put 6K DEALERS back on the street?

[fj1200]

^It was a commission of numbnuts. :poke:

[fj1200]

America’s reinvention is helping it leap further ahead of the world (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2015/11/02/americas-reinvention-is-helping-it-leap-further-ahead-of-the-world/)



Pessimists believe that the United States has peaked as a superpower and is falling behind in education, research and development, and economic growth. They say the country’s best days are behind it.

Fortunately, they are wrong. Not only is the United States leading a technology revolution that will help solve the grand challenges of humanity — problems such as disease, hunger and shortages of energy and clean water — it is increasing its lead on the rest of the world. By combining its entrepreneurial strengths with its creativity, it is reinventing itself (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2014/01/02/how-the-united-states-is-reinventing-itself-yet-again/) once again.

A new report from the Council on Foreign Relations, Keeping the Edge (http://www.cfr.org/innovation/keeping-edge-us-innovation/p37127), is one in a series that analyzes where the United States stands in key dimensions of economic competitiveness. It concludes that on innovation, which drives rising living standards in the advanced economies, no other country is even close. For example:

–Of the top 20 universities in the world that produce the highest-impact scientific research, 16 are in the United States.

–Total U.S. research & development spending — most of it by companies — is higher as a share of the economy than at any other time since the early 1960s when the space program was starting. In absolute terms, no other country invests nearly as much in R&D as the United States, and in relative terms only Japan is close. And in a recent survey, the average U.S. corporation said it planned to boost research spending this year by nearly twice the rate of its international competitors.

–The share of the U.S. economy that comes from knowledge-intensive industries has risen sharply over the past decade, reaching nearly 40 percent; no other large economy has even hit 30 percent.

...

[Black Diamond]

America’s reinvention is helping it leap further ahead of the world (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/innovations/wp/2015/11/02/americas-reinvention-is-helping-it-leap-further-ahead-of-the-world/)
Yeah America is the new Madonna.

[fj1200]

Yeah America is the new Madonna.

:confused: Not sure what you mean by that. The United States has always driven innovation.

[Perianne]

Yeah America is the new Madonna.

I don't know what that means either, but I like it. :)

[Gunny]

I want to know how many of y'all speak military, or Navy .... Lots of y'all whine a lot when we get in your asses.

[Perianne]

I want to know how many of y'all speak military, or Navy .... Lots of y'all whine a lot when we get in your asses.

I am a delicate princess. Harsh words bruise me. :)

[Gunny]

I am a delicate princess. Harsh words bruise me. :)

Yeah, well I bet you'd just love me. I'm about as delicate a 500 lb bomb.