Several Russian Helicopters Carpet Bomb ISIS In Palmyra

[Christie Brinkley]

Russian helicopters carpet bomb ISIS in Palmyra.

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Carpet bombing those ISIS filth bags.

[Voted4Reagan]

That is not Carpet Bombing.....lol

THIS is Carpet Bombing....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phzRY0DdRXk

[Christie Brinkley]

That is not Carpet Bombing.....lol

THIS is Carpet Bombing....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phzRY0DdRXk
Carpet bombing... with helicopters not bombers:rolleyes:

[glockmail]

I'd like to see Putin go nuke on them.

[Elessar]

That is not Carpet Bombing.....lol

THIS is Carpet Bombing....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phzRY0DdRXk

Those are major Ouches! Thanks!

[Voted4Reagan]

Carpet bombing... with helicopters not bombers:rolleyes:

Helicopters dont carpet bomb.... They are most effective at attacking individual ground targets at a distance. This makes them good against formations of armor units where multiple helicopters take on targets one at a time with missiles similar to the AGM-114 HELLFIRE or Russian 9k114 Shturm anti-tank Missiles. Choppers are the snipers of air warfare. They can never "Carpet Bomb" an area in large formations like bombers can. They just cant carry enough munitions.

so for true carpet bombing there is only one weapon, the Strategic Bomber like the B-1/B-2/B-52 or the TU-160 or to a much lesser extent TU-95. The Russian Air Force has 13 active TU-160's and the TU-95's and their variants are obsolete and used for Recon Missions and ASW roles.

The Majority of the Russian Bomber force is comprised of the obsolete "Backfire" Bomber TU-22M of which there are less than 100 in active service.

and TU-22m's cant carry anywhere near enough to be effective Carpet Bombers... They were designed to carry Nuclear weapons at supersonic speeds.

yes... some of us are well versed in Russian Military Hardware .... and we're hardly impressed by it. They are crudely built, badly Maintained and mostly obsolete.

The best piece of Hardware the Russians ever made was the AK-47... That cant carpet bomb either.

[Balu]

I'd like to see Putin go nuke on them.

Can you imaging what the wail will be in YOUR Mass Media and the State Department should we use even thermobaric bomb, which is much more effective than carpet bombing?:laugh:

[Voted4Reagan]

Can you imaging what the wail will be in YOUR Mass Media and the State Department should we use even thermobaric bomb, which is much more effective than carpet bombing?:laugh:

we made Thermobaric bombs back in the 1950's... There is nothing new or extraordinary about them..

[Balu]

we made Thermobaric bombs back in the 1950's... There is nothing new or extraordinary about them..

You're definitely not from Texas? I see that you are not able to understand the meaning of two previous posts in a row. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/dntknw.gif

[Voted4Reagan]

You're definitely not from Texas? I see that you are not able to understand the meaning of two previous posts in a row. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/dntknw.gif

go back into hiding Balu... was nicer around here without you.

[Christie Brinkley]

Helicopters dont carpet bomb.... They are most effective at attacking individual ground targets at a distance. This makes them good against formations of armor units where multiple helicopters take on targets one at a time with missiles similar to the AGM-114 HELLFIRE or Russian 9k114 Shturm anti-tank Missiles. Choppers are the snipers of air warfare. They can never "Carpet Bomb" an area in large formations like bombers can. They just cant carry enough munitions.

so for true carpet bombing there is only one weapon, the Strategic Bomber like the B-1/B-2/B-52 or the TU-160 or to a much lesser extent TU-95. The Russian Air Force has 13 active TU-160's and the TU-95's and their variants are obsolete and used for Recon Missions and ASW roles.

The Majority of the Russian Bomber force is comprised of the obsolete "Backfire" Bomber TU-22M of which there are less than 100 in active service.

and TU-22m's cant carry anywhere near enough to be effective Carpet Bombers... They were designed to carry Nuclear weapons at supersonic speeds.

yes... some of us are well versed in Russian Military Hardware .... and we're hardly impressed by it. They are crudely built, badly Maintained and mostly obsolete.

The best piece of Hardware the Russians ever made was the AK-47... That cant carpet bomb either.
Saturation bombing/carpet bombing is the intense bombing with unguided bombs of an area to inflict maximum damage to a certain area.

[Voted4Reagan]

Saturation bombing/carpet bombing is the intense bombing with unguided bombs of an area to inflict maximum damage to a certain area.

Which you cant do with Helicopters...

But you can do it with JDAMS and B-52's.. Ask the Republican Guard how that worked for them in Iraq.... B-52 strikes scared them more than almost anything... The USS Wisconsin (BB-64) scared them in the First Gulf war more....

[Balu]

Saturation bombing/carpet bombing is the intense bombing with unguided bombs of an area to inflict maximum damage to a certain area.
Carpet bombimg is bombing of areas without aiming at certain targets.
Helicopters work against certain targets, but not areas, no matter guided, or unguided missiles or bombs are used and how intensive firing the target is. ;)

[Christie Brinkley]

An air strike is a strike against a specific building. Saturation bombing is against an area where you know there is enemy activity but you don't know their specific location.

[Voted4Reagan]

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[Voted4Reagan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYPsfdewImA

[Gunny]

Russian helicopters carpet bomb ISIS in Palmyra.

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Carpet bombing those ISIS filth bags.

Question: Where'd these pics come from?

[Gunny]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYPsfdewImA

One of my favorite movies. I met that Chief.

[Gunny]

And my question is based on that looks like a CH-53 on training ops in SoCal. A HIND doesn't look like that.

[Elessar]

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=7928&stc=1

Damn battleships are purely scary. I ran the cutter's small boat up alongside
the New Jersey when it was off-loading ammo in Long Beach.

The freaking barrels of those turret guns were longer than my boat.

Would be nice to see them back again to fuck with ISIS.

[Balu]

Damn battleships are purely scary. I ran the cutter's small boat up alongside

...Would be nice to see them back again to fuck with ISIS.

Aha! ISIS will sit on the seashore waiting for you with anticipation. :laugh:

[Black Diamond]

Aha! ISIS will sit on the seashore waiting for you with anticipation. :laugh:

You're probably right, thanks to Osamabama.

[Christie Brinkley]

Aha! ISIS will sit on the seashore waiting for you with anticipation. :laugh:
Waiting to be re-supplied...:laugh:

In fact they probably would ship it to Turkey and Saudi Arabia to use them as a third party to cover themselves so they can then give it to ISIS.

[Balu]

Waiting to be re-supplied...:laugh:

In fact they probably would ship it to Turkey and Saudi Arabia to use them as a third party to cover themselves so they can then give it to ISIS.

Very likely.

[jimnyc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGLgZ8htLI4

[Christie Brinkley]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGLgZ8htLI4

At least the US was actually trying to destroy the people they were bombing during the Vietnam war.:rolleyes:

[Balu]

At least the US was actually trying to destroy the people they were bombing during the Vietnam war.:rolleyes:

Good tradition after Dresden, where were no military and supply objectives.

[jimnyc]

Where is Russia when other countries are in need? Not speaking solely of wars, but even when military ships are constantly sent in for aid to countries during tragedies? But lets also add in places where terrorists are. Not much at all. Been that way as long as I can remember. Talk a tough game but always come up short. As for you Christie, make me laugh. Not my fault you live with a government full of pussies to scared to help or get involved. You talk about the US doing this wrong, or doing that wrong - but no mention of countries like your own that just whistle and look in the air and hope the problem goes away. That's why you guys are dealing with such an issue with the muslims right now.

So take the jabs all ya like, we still have the best military in the world, from the best country in the world. Always first to others aid and to donate the most money, and always the first to come in and kick some ass. Yeah, yeah, talk smack now, but that's simply the bare facts.

:finger3:

[Black Diamond]

Where is Russia when other countries are in need? Not speaking solely of wars, but even when military ships are constantly sent in for aid to countries during tragedies? But lets also add in places where terrorists are. Not much at all. Been that way as long as I can remember. Talk a tough game but always come up short. As for you Christie, make me laugh. Not my fault you live with a government full of pussies to scared to help or get involved. You talk about the US doing this wrong, or doing that wrong - but no mention of countries like your own that just whistle and look in the air and hope the problem goes away. That's why you guys are dealing with such an issue with the muslims right now.

So take the jabs all ya like, we still have the best military in the world, from the best country in the world. Always first to others aid and to donate the most money, and always the first to come in and kick some ass. Yeah, yeah, talk smack now, but that's simply the bare facts.

:finger3:

I feel like you would have been right before obama. He has castrated America.

[jimnyc]

I feel like you would have been right before obama. He has castrated America.

I look at it as a temporary setback. I hope if someone with balls gets at the helm, we'll do a little more building up, and hopefully do a shitload more in going after ISIS before they find their way to us. Imagine if we're relying on Hillary with one of the worst threats ever on the horizon?

[Black Diamond]

I look at it as a temporary setback. I hope if someone with balls gets at the helm, we'll do a little more building up, and hopefully do a shitload more in going after ISIS before they find their way to us. Imagine if we're relying on Hillary with one of the worst threats ever on the horizon?
I do think Hillary has more balls than Obama

[jimnyc]

I do think Hillary has more balls than Obama

Please don't make me even think of it...

but more importantly, if he's only going to drop some bombs here, some more there, then what's the point. And if the US is in Iraq and Russia in Syria hitting them hard, then more will come into Iraq. IMO, it needs to be a massive hit from both sides. And even then we will have the smaller cells and individuals to deal with.

[Black Diamond]

Please don't make me even think of it...

but more importantly, if he's only going to drop some bombs here, some more there, then what's the point. And if the US is in Iraq and Russia in Syria hitting them hard, then more will come into Iraq. IMO, it needs to be a massive hit from both sides. And even then we will have the smaller cells and individuals to deal with.

There's a part of me that feels, when it comes to Isis, the damage Obama has done may be irreversible. And his pulling out if Iraq will not go unpunished, I fear

[Christie Brinkley]

There's a part of me that feels, when it comes to Isis, the damage Obama has done may be irreversible. And his pulling out if Iraq will not go unpunished, I fear
One thing Obama and Hillary have in common is they both like women? If Michelle is proven to be one that is:laugh:

[Christie Brinkley]

Where is Russia when other countries are in need? Not speaking solely of wars, but even when military ships are constantly sent in for aid to countries during tragedies? But lets also add in places where terrorists are. Not much at all. Been that way as long as I can remember. Talk a tough game but always come up short. As for you Christie, make me laugh. Not my fault you live with a government full of pussies to scared to help or get involved. You talk about the US doing this wrong, or doing that wrong - but no mention of countries like your own that just whistle and look in the air and hope the problem goes away. That's why you guys are dealing with such an issue with the muslims right now.

So take the jabs all ya like, we still have the best military in the world, from the best country in the world. Always first to others aid and to donate the most money, and always the first to come in and kick some ass. Yeah, yeah, talk smack now, but that's simply the bare facts.

:finger3:
Your government has been involved for over a year... yet ISIS is still around? Logic? 2+2=5?

[Balu]

So take the jabs all ya like, we still have the best military in the world, from the best country in the world.
:finger3:

The BEST army must be able to defend your country. Can yours do it?
Your experience is to fight only against underdeveloped countries and then with a negative result.
What the sense to continiusly repeat your mantras? For complacency only? You must remeber yet, that the next day after the launch of Russian cruising missiles from Caspean Sea, your aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt noiselessly left the Persian Gulf. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/dntknw.gif

[Christie Brinkley]

The BEST army must be able to defend your country. Can yours do it?
Your experience is to fight only against underdeveloped countries and then with a negative result.
What the sense to continiusly repeat your mantras? For complacency only? You must remeber yet, that the next day after the launch of Russian cruising missiles from Caspean Sea, your aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt noiselessly left the Persian Gulf. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/dntknw.gif
Nice to see how the states fairs against someone their own size.

[Voted4Reagan]

Good tradition after Dresden, where were no military and supply objectives.

At least we never engineered a Famine like Stalin did to kill 10,000,000 + of our own citizens...

HOLOMODOR..... Stalin's Legacy and the legacy of Russia against the Ukrainian people.

[Balu]

Nice to see how the states fairs against someone their own size.

This is the desire of a sophisticated suicide. You never had wars on your territory and you do not know what it is. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/sad.gif

[Christie Brinkley]

This is the desire of a sophisticated suicide. You never had wars on your territory and you do not know what it is. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/sad.gif
Correct me if I am wrong but there is no such word as 'safe' in Russian?

[Balu]

Correct me if I am wrong but there is no such word as 'safe' in Russian?

But there is. And it's a Greate mistake for the USA to feel yourself as you used to. Nowadays two Oceans are not more than puddles.
Moreover radiactive Tsunami not only can sweep away the coastal areas, but also make it impossible to restore them for a very long time. And yet, Yellowstone is generally a separate topic. And this is not fun at all. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/sad.gif

[jimnyc]

The BEST army must be able to defend your country. Can yours do it?
Your experience is to fight only against underdeveloped countries and then with a negative result.
What the sense to continiusly repeat your mantras? For complacency only? You must remeber yet, that the next day after the launch of Russian cruising missiles from Caspean Sea, your aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt noiselessly left the Persian Gulf. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/dntknw.gif

They may be losing, but even ISIS is not backing down. Russia has done jack shit to show they are someone to be reckoned with. The only person perhaps fearing Russia is Obama. He's an idiot. Sorry to burst your bubble.

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The Theodore Roosevelt Carrier Strike Group left U.S. 5th Fleet on Tuesday with no public timeline for when its replacement will reach the Middle East to continue U.S. air strikes against Islamic State in Iraq in Syria (ISIS) targets.

The Harry S. Truman Carrier Strike Group is slated to be the next CSG bound for the Middle East, but the Navy would not specify a deployment time other than later this year, a service official told USNI News on Tuesday.

“We’re not going to talk to future operations,” the official said.

While in 5th Fleet, the Roosevelt CSG was the largest symbol in the U.S.-led anti-ISIS collation responsible for “1,812 combat sorties totaling 10,618 combat flight hours, taking on 14.5 million gallons of jet fuel and expending 1,085 precision-guided munitions,” as part of Operation Inherent Resolve, according to a Tuesday statement from the service.

The ship is now bound for its new homeport at Naval Station San Diego, Calif.

http://news.usni.org/2015/10/13/carrier-uss-theodore-roosevelt-chops-out-of-u-s-5th-fleet-no-firm-date-on-replacement-to-continue-anti-isis-strikes

[jimnyc]

But there is. And it's a Greate mistake for the USA to feel yourself as you used to. Nowadays two Oceans are not more than puddles.
Moreover radiactive Tsunami not only can sweep away the coastal areas, but also make it impossible to restore them for a very long time. And yet, Yellowstone is generally a separate topic. And this is not fun at all. http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/sad.gif

Christie is not American, from the UK.

[Balu]

Christie is not American, from the UK.

I don't care. I would recommend you check out our latest Military Doctrine. It is available in Internet.
But... Generally I don't like to discuss these topics. Everything is rather sad as "A lot of knowledge - a lot of sadness." http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/sad.gif

[jimnyc]

I don't care. I would recommend you check out our latest Military Doctrine. It is available in Internet.
But... Generally I don't like to discuss these topics. Everything is rather sad as "A lot of knowledge - a lot of sadness." http://www.kolobok.us/smiles/standart/sad.gif

It's not nice not to care, Blue!!

[Balu]

It's not nice not to care, Blue!!
I do not see any difference between the US and the UK in the framework of inter-state relations towards Russia and and in light of our Military Doctrine. Thats why I don't care.

[jimnyc]

I do not see any difference between the US and the UK in the framework of inter-state relations towards Russia and and in light of our Military Doctrine. Thats why I don't care.

Christie loves Russia! See that.

[Balu]

Christie loves Russia! See that.

This is fine. But it in no way can change my attitude to the UK in this respect.