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reason10
11-21-2015, 10:06 AM
The Amazing Donald Trump
They said he wouldn't run. He did.
They said he'd refuse to show his financial statement. He showed it before most of the other candidates.
They said the McCain remark would tank his campaign. He's now leading in all the polls and RCP has him right now winning a landslide against Hillary.

And it's with stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMnfI1a0evE

These campaign rallies draw record crowds. And he hasn't changed the message much. It's always a few WOW's at the beginning, some cute statement about those who came early getting the best real estate, then the major issues that are the most important on the people's minds.

His biggest applause lines, predictably, are about building the wall, taking care of our vets and in a couple of instances that famous line "bomb the shit out of ISIS." I don't think I've seen any presidential candidate use that word on the stump ever.

He'll close with The American Dream is Dead, but we're going to make America great again.

So you're thinking that this man is a genius at branding. So how does that qualify him for the presidency?

If you have to ask that question, just remember the idiots we've had in the Oval Office since Reagan. None of them were as qualified as THE DONALD.

Right now, nobody running for the office is as qualified as THE DONALD.

It's a great show. And Election Night will be predictable. It's going to be THE DONALD in a landslide.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-28-2015, 02:36 PM
The Amazing Donald Trump
They said he wouldn't run. He did.
They said he'd refuse to show his financial statement. He showed it before most of the other candidates.
They said the McCain remark would tank his campaign. He's now leading in all the polls and RCP has him right now winning a landslide against Hillary.

And it's with stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMnfI1a0evE

These campaign rallies draw record crowds. And he hasn't changed the message much. It's always a few WOW's at the beginning, some cute statement about those who came early getting the best real estate, then the major issues that are the most important on the people's minds.

His biggest applause lines, predictably, are about building the wall, taking care of our vets and in a couple of instances that famous line "bomb the shit out of ISIS." I don't think I've seen any presidential candidate use that word on the stump ever.

He'll close with The American Dream is Dead, but we're going to make America great again.

So you're thinking that this man is a genius at branding. So how does that qualify him for the presidency?

If you have to ask that question, just remember the idiots we've had in the Oval Office since Reagan. None of them were as qualified as THE DONALD.

Right now, nobody running for the office is as qualified as THE DONALD.

It's a great show. And Election Night will be predictable. It's going to be THE DONALD in a landslide.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to reason10 again.--Tyr

Black Diamond
11-28-2015, 02:49 PM
have a link to Trump beating Hillary in a landslide? I couldn't find it.

Gunny
11-28-2015, 02:50 PM
I wonder at which point you Trumpies realize he can't deliver on one thing he's running on.

Bilgerat
11-28-2015, 02:53 PM
I wonder at which point you Trumpies realize he can't deliver on one thing he's running on.


In all honesty, none of them can (or have)

Black Diamond
11-28-2015, 02:57 PM
I wonder at which point you Trumpies realize he can't deliver on one thing he's running on.

Most candidates don't or can't. My concern is he will lose the general.

Gunny
11-28-2015, 03:02 PM
In all honesty, none of them can (or have)


Most candidates don't or can't. My concern is he will lose the general.

I agree with both. My concern is DEFINITELY him losing the general. The left is in lockstep and going to vote for an obvious criminal. The right is not. Trump appeals to a minority of the right -- the angry ones. He's going to be another McCain. He won't get the moderate/centrist and/or independent votes. They'll stay home.

LongTermGuy
11-28-2015, 03:30 PM
I wonder at which point you Trumpies realize he can't deliver on one thing he's running on.

*You should open your ears....*I wonder at which point you start worrying about `your guy` and get your nose out of Trumps ass:thumb:.....same goes for the Rhinos and `stikin` Liberals .....always fucking bitching Trump trump trump ...Day in and day out...The Media...Trump this and Trump that...

*But I guess Ladies and gentlemen...this is good...Trump is pissing off the right people......where they are so FOOOCKING infatuated with Trump they are not worrying about their own candidates and campaigns .....

LongTermGuy
11-28-2015, 03:35 PM
In all honesty, none of them can (or have)


Bullshit "to be honest with you"....he has said enough....whats he supposed to do..sit down and write a Novel on what he plans to do in every interview and spill all the info...let all the roaches (muslim and Leftist) Know ahead of time on what he plans to do??

Everybody should start worrying about `their own` candidate and get them going and quite Jacking their mouth about Trump and helping the Leftist.

Black Diamond
11-28-2015, 03:40 PM
*You should open your ears....*I wonder at which point you start worrying about `your guy` and get your nose out of Trumps ass:thumb:.....same goes for the Rhinos and `stikin` Liberals .....always fucking bitching Trump trump trump ...Day in and day out...The Media...Trump this and Trump that...

*But I guess Ladies and gentlemen...this is good...Trump is pissing off the right people......where they are so FOOOCKING infatuated with Trump they are not worrying about their own candidates and campaigns .....
Can you link me up to where it shows trump winning the general in a landslide as the op claims? Most polls show him losing to a criminal.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-28-2015, 03:43 PM
*You should open your ears....*I wonder at which point you start worrying about `your guy` and get your nose out of Trumps ass:thumb:.....same goes for the Rhinos and `stikin` Liberals .....always fucking bitching Trump trump trump ...Day in and day out...The Media...Trump this and Trump that...

*But I guess Ladies and gentlemen...this is good...Trump is pissing off the right people......where they are so FOOOCKING infatuated with Trump they are not worrying about their own candidates and campaigns .....

If only, I could ever learn to be as tactful as you my friend! :laugh:
Yet the truth in your words ring clear and loud.
This nation is tired of the regular lying sacks of shit that run for office.
And Trump is just rebellious enough to keep more of his promises than any of the others IMHO.
In fact, his conceit almost insures that to be the case IMHO.
AND HIS HISTORY SHOWS HIM TO BE A DO'ER........--TYR

Black Diamond
11-28-2015, 03:45 PM
If only, I could ever learn to be as tactful as you my friend! :laugh:
Yet the truth in your words ring clear and loud.
This nation is tired of the regular lying sacks of shit that run for office.
And Trump is just rebellious enough to keep more of his promises than any of the others IMHO.
In fact, his conceit almost insures that to be the case IMHO.
AND HIS HISTORY SHOWS HIM TO BE A DO'ER........--TYR
*maybe* and you're assuming he can beat the wicked witch.

LongTermGuy
11-28-2015, 03:47 PM
Can you link me up to where it shows trump winning the general in a landslide as the op claims? Most polls show him losing to a criminal.

Dude ok ...I get it you dont like Trump...*Pull it up yourself using your own words...I did...and what you will see it goes back and fourth daily..weekly with the Polls...between Carson..Trump and Cruz...on who is ahead of Hillary...*who gives a flying Foock right now on which "One" at the moment is ahead...of Hillary...the bitch belongs in jail anyway...and we all still have plenty of time to see the turn of events...right now..shots are still being fired back and fourth between the Candidates (any of our guys) and the left...

Gunny
11-28-2015, 03:49 PM
*You should open your ears....*I wonder at which point you start worrying about `your guy` and get your nose out of Trumps ass:thumb:.....same goes for the Rhinos and `stikin` Liberals .....always fucking bitching Trump trump trump ...Day in and day out...The Media...Trump this and Trump that...

*But I guess Ladies and gentlemen...this is good...Trump is pissing off the right people......where they are so FOOOCKING infatuated with Trump they are not worrying about their own candidates and campaigns .....

He's more than pissing off the "right people". He's got MORE of the REAL "right people" worried. Being pissed off is NOT a reason to vote for someone. I probably have the worst anger issues of anyone on this board. But I'm also trained to look big picture and not think with my emotions. Your last sentence works good on a playground. Not the Office of the President. I can piss off people better than he can. Crap. If that's all it takes ....

I want the most QUALIFIED person, not the biggest mouth blowing hot air. I also want the most qualified person that can win. Trump's not going to get swing votes.

And, if you'd known me long enough, you know your first sentence is just BS if it's aimed at me. I held my nose and voted for McLame. If I can do that, I'll hold it again and vote for Trump if he's the candidate. MY party is the Anti-Democratic Party. I'll vote against those leftwing socialists EVERY time.

LongTermGuy
11-28-2015, 03:52 PM
If only, I could ever learn to be as tactful as you my friend! :laugh:
Yet the truth in your words ring clear and loud.
This nation is tired of the regular lying sacks of shit that run for office.
And Trump is just rebellious enough to keep more of his promises than any of the others IMHO.
In fact, his conceit almost insures that to be the case IMHO.
AND HIS HISTORY SHOWS HIM TO BE A DO'ER........--TYR


Thank you...what Im trying to say...we are all supposed to be on the same general team and and let the public pick the best man...(again one of our guys)...but we all have our favorites...no reason for any of us to be nasty towards any of our guys...let them do their own thing....

Black Diamond
11-28-2015, 03:54 PM
Dude ok ...I get it you dont like Trump...*Pull it up yourself using your own words...I did...and what you will see it goes back and fourth daily..weekly with the Polls...between Carson..Trump and Cruz...on who is ahead of Hillary...*who gives a flying Foock right now on which "One" at the moment is ahead...of Hillary...the bitch belongs in jail anyway...and we all still have plenty of time to see the turn of events...right now..shots are still being fired back and fourth between the Candidates (any of our guys) and the left...
The op said he was way ahead of Hillary.

I pulled it up and he loses to her in most polls. Are you going to correct the op when he says he is winning in a landslide against her?

Black Diamond
11-28-2015, 03:56 PM
Dude ok ...I get it you dont like Trump...*Pull it up yourself using your own words...I did...and what you will see it goes back and fourth daily..weekly with the Polls...between Carson..Trump and Cruz...on who is ahead of Hillary...*who gives a flying Foock right now on which "One" at the moment is ahead...of Hillary...the bitch belongs in jail anyway...and we all still have plenty of time to see the turn of events...right now..shots are still being fired back and fourth between the Candidates (any of our guys) and the left...

Lemme be clear (oops). I want that bitch to lose. This left wing crap needs to stop

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-28-2015, 03:56 PM
can you link me up to where it shows trump winning the general in a landslide as the op claims? Most polls show him losing to a criminal.

are they presenting favorable articles on trump suddenly?
Or are they still printing lies, distortions and the regular lib/dem shit?
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http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/261035-fox-poll-six-republicans-would-beat-clinton
fox news poll: Six republicans would beat hillary clinton ...
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6 days ago - fox news poll: Six republicans would beat hillary clinton.
By kyle ... Trump remains the gop front-runner with 28 percent support from likely
republican primary voters in the new poll. Carson has 18 ...
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http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2015/11/25/new-poll-donald-trump-leads-nationally-and-easily-beats-cruz-rubio-and-carson-in-head-to-head-matchups/
new poll: Donald trump leads nationally and easily beats cruz, rubio and carson in head-to-head matchups…
posted on november 25, 2015 by sundance
donald trump 60% -vs- ben carson 40%
donald trump 57% -vs- marco rubio 43%
donald trump 57% -vs- ted cruz 43%

a new yougov/economist poll (full pdf below) of 2000 national respondents shows donald trump with a commanding lead, and beating all gop rivals in head-to-head matchups.

For the first time pollsters asked the respondents head-to-head comparisons between trump, carson, cruz and rubio. The results eliminate yet another promoted myth:

so he beats her and easily beats our other top strong candidates!

So why all the crap about his not being able to win!??

Are you guys cheering for his defeat??

Best be cheering for his victory-- as he is not only the strongest but is also a guy that will do more to reverse the obama shit slung upon us.-tyr

Black Diamond
11-28-2015, 03:58 PM
are they presenting favorable articles on trump suddenly?
Or are they still printing lies, distortions and the regular lib/dem shit?
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so he beats her and easily beats our other top strong candidates!

So why all the crap about his not being able to win!??

Are you guys cheering for his defeat??

Best be cheering for his victory-- as he is not only the strongest but is also a guy that will do more to reverse the obama shit slung upon us.-tyr
No my friend. I am cheering for Hillary's defeat. What the op said re a landslide per RCP is not correct. When trump wins nomination I will be chanting trump 2016 as loud as you.

LongTermGuy
11-28-2015, 03:59 PM
He's more than pissing off the "right people". He's got MORE of the REAL "right people" worried. Being pissed off is NOT a reason to vote for someone. I probably have the worst anger issues of anyone on this board. But I'm also trained to look big picture and not think with my emotions. Your last sentence works good on a playground. Not the Office of the President. I can piss off people better than he can. Crap. If that's all it takes ....

I want the most QUALIFIED person, not the biggest mouth blowing hot air. I also want the most qualified person that can win. Trump's not going to get swing votes.

And, if you'd known me long enough, you know your first sentence is just BS if it's aimed at me. I held my nose and voted for McLame. If I can do that, I'll hold it again and vote for Trump if he's the candidate. MY party is the Anti-Democratic Party. I'll vote against those leftwing socialists EVERY time.


Geeezzz...Relax man...I give you the most love here! :laugh:

Pay attention! Ready?

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Ya..we all want the most 'Qualified"...and we all have our Opinions...we can piss here back and fourth You and I..*and everyone else...and you know what buddy...it wont make a difference...Like I said before..The people will decide....

With Love,

Your buddy LongTermGuy :2up:

Gunny
11-28-2015, 04:02 PM
Thank you...what Im trying to say...we are all supposed to be on the same general team and and let the public pick the best man...(again one of our guys)...but we all have our favorites...no reason for any of us to be nasty towards any of our guys...let them do their own thing....

If you took anything I said as nasty, it certainly wasn't meant that way. I criticize Trump, not other members who like him. Now I WILL criticize members who would actually vote for that Dem criminal who should be wearing a striped suit. :laugh:

I don't see Trump as the best candidate. He's doing more to divide the right than bring it together. Simple as that.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-28-2015, 04:02 PM
He's more than pissing off the "right people". He's got MORE of the REAL "right people" worried. Being pissed off is NOT a reason to vote for someone. I probably have the worst anger issues of anyone on this board. But I'm also trained to look big picture and not think with my emotions. Your last sentence works good on a playground. Not the Office of the President. I can piss off people better than he can. Crap. If that's all it takes ....

I want the most QUALIFIED person, not the biggest mouth blowing hot air. I also want the most qualified person that can win. Trump's not going to get swing votes.

And, if you'd known me long enough, you know your first sentence is just BS if it's aimed at me. I held my nose and voted for McLame. If I can do that, I'll hold it again and vote for Trump if he's the candidate. MY party is the Anti-Democratic Party. I'll vote against those leftwing socialists EVERY time.



He's more than pissing off the "right people". He's got MORE of the REAL "right people" worried. Being pissed off is NOT a reason to vote for someone.

HE HAS BEEN DOING THAT SINCE DAY ONE, WHY IS IT SUDDENLY AND SUPPOSEDLY SO IMPORTANT AND A DISASTER FOR HIM?
THEY'VE ONLY CRIED THAT CRAP A FEW THOUSAND TIMES--NO DICE YET.
Trump can and will win bar anything calamitous and out of the ordinary to pop up in the future on him IMHO.-Tyr

Black Diamond
11-28-2015, 04:02 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

LTG and Tyr. This is the source op quoted. Please point out where trump beats Hillary's ass per polls. I will give you much credit.

LongTermGuy
11-28-2015, 04:04 PM
Lemme be clear (oops). I want that bitch to lose. This left wing crap needs to stop


Yes...all of us do...Problem is we all "Feel" were smarter than each other here...with our opinions and whats good for the country...:salute:...​we will see what the people decide...


:laugh:

Gunny
11-28-2015, 04:06 PM
HE HAS BEEN DOING THAT SINCE DAY ONE, WHY IS IT SUDDENLY AND SUPPOSEDLY SO IMPORTANT AND A DISASTER FOR HIM?
THEY'VE ONLY CRIED THAT CRAP A FEW THOUSAND TIMES--NO DICE YET.
Trump can and will win bar anything calamitous and out of the ordinary to pop up in the future on him IMHO.-Tyr

You don't have to type in caps at me. I can read.

My stance has been the same since Day One. He's not going to win. I want Hillary OUT. I want the Dems OUT. I don't want some goof outsider who is about as conservative as my dog blowing THAT.

LongTermGuy
11-28-2015, 04:11 PM
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

LTG and Tyr. This is the source op quoted. Please point out where trump beats Hillary's ass per polls. I will give you much credit.
Quit messing around man...you find it...worrying about whose up today..last week...this week is a waste of time...*DEPENDING on `who makes the Poll` and who they want to Impress....this week...next week...bla bla bla...


Lets talk 2-3 months before the election and then...we all would know who is in and who is out...and then we can decide who can beat who...Makes more sense amigo...:salute:

Black Diamond
11-28-2015, 04:12 PM
Quit messing around man...you find it...worrying about whose up today..last week...this week is a waste of time...*DEPENDING on `who makes the Poll` and who they want to Impress....this week...next week...bla bla bla...


Lets talk 2-3 months before the election and then...we all would know who is in and who is out...and then we can decide who can beat who...Makes more sense amigo...:salute:


Ok. Fair enough. Polls are addictive.

Gunny
11-28-2015, 04:14 PM
Quit messing around man...you find it...worrying about whose up today..last week...this week is a waste of time...*DEPENDING on `who makes the Poll` and who they want to Impress....this week...next week...bla bla bla...


Lets talk 2-3 months before the election and then...we all would know who is in and who is out...and then we can decide who can beat who...Makes more sense amigo...:salute:


I don't pay attention to the polls and who is ahead now in which or whatever poll. But THIS is a perfect example of the last two elections. I look at these stupid so-called debates the same way. So busy destroying ourselves with infighting we aren't looking at the big picture while the left IS. They want that office no matter what and would vote for Donald Duck if he was the front runner on the Dem ticket.

LongTermGuy
11-28-2015, 04:15 PM
If you took anything I said as nasty, it certainly wasn't meant that way. I criticize Trump, not other members who like him. Now I WILL criticize members who would actually vote for that Dem criminal who should be wearing a striped suit. :laugh:

I don't see Trump as the best candidate. He's doing more to divide the right than bring it together. Simple as that.


La la la la....Here we go with Opinions AGAIN Bro.....Ready?...wait for it....



I Feel Trump is the best Candidate....The rest are weak...sleepy....and weird...looking for a job...

Trump...Cruz...Carson....They can all fit in....one way or another...:coffee:

LongTermGuy
11-28-2015, 04:17 PM
**Ok...To all my good friends here...(You too Gunny)....I love you all! (as good friends here) No gay shit!!!:cool:

Nap time for me guys...see you all later...:salute:

Gunny
11-28-2015, 04:21 PM
La la la la....Here we go with Opinions AGAIN Bro.....Ready?...wait for it....



I Feel Trump is the best Candidate....The rest are weak...sleepy....and weird...looking for a job...

Trump...Cruz...Carson....They can all fit in....one way or another...:coffee:

You in a mood or something today? Trump sucks and can't fulfill ANY of his promises. He's a bag of wind and looks like Harry the Eagle from Sesame Street. He's so damned petty he gets distracted by the least perceived insult and goes on a tear and loses focus of what he's supposed to be doing. Yeah, I want THAT finger on the trigger.:rolleyes: He'll get shut down at every turn.

If he appeals to your anger, fine. Again, that is NOT the prerequisite for anyone I want as President or Commander in Chief. You want some angry MF-er in the WH vote for me. I can at least maintain my focus on the task at hand and don't spend all my time running off at the mouth.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
11-28-2015, 04:32 PM
You don't have to type in caps at me. I can read.

My stance has been the same since Day One. He's not going to win. I want Hillary OUT. I want the Dems OUT. I don't want some goof outsider who is about as conservative as my dog blowing THAT.

First, my caps are not me shouting. I forget and type too fast. Tooooooo lazy to retype.

We all want those maggots out!

Now please loan me that crystal ball you are using that informs you he is going to lose against that stinking, lying piece of hildabeast shit. I need it for the next big lottery jackpot my friend. ;)-Tyr

Black Diamond
11-28-2015, 04:36 PM
First, my caps are not me shouting. I forget and type too fast. Tooooooo lazy to retype.

We all want those maggots out!

Now please loan me that crystal ball you are using that informs you he is going to lose against that stinking, lying piece of hildabeast shit. I need it for the next big lottery jackpot my friend. ;)-Tyr

Hildabeast. :laugh:

jimnyc
11-28-2015, 04:40 PM
You in a mood or something today? Trump sucks and can't fulfill ANY of his promises. He's a bag of wind and looks like Harry the Eagle from Sesame Street. He's so damned petty he gets distracted by the least perceived insult and goes on a tear and loses focus of what he's supposed to be doing. Yeah, I want THAT finger on the trigger.:rolleyes: He'll get shut down at every turn.

If he appeals to your anger, fine. Again, that is NOT the prerequisite for anyone I want as President or Commander in Chief. You want some angry MF-er in the WH vote for me. I can at least maintain my focus on the task at hand and don't spend all my time running off at the mouth.

I think his stances and what he wants to do to improve foreign trade are workable. While I don't think he can toss out 11 million folks overnight, I think at least enforcing laws and deporting those that are caught committing crimes, at the very least, is workable. With some issues to be worked out, I think enforcing and building a wall in more areas is workable. I think even you would agree with his stance on the VA. I don't know much about extensive plans, but his stances on guns and the 2nd amendment are in line with what I believe. I don't see many issues with his tax plan, nor do I see it as not being able to be fulfilled.

Yes, he talks smack about illegals, is rough around the edges and I'm sure his demeanor pisses people off. But for a few months now people have been stating he has no plan, he just says he'll get good people, he can do this, he can't do that... And no offense, but it would appear all of those people really aren't too informed about Trump and his stances.

jimnyc
11-28-2015, 04:43 PM
First, my caps are not me shouting. I forget and type too fast. Tooooooo lazy to retype.

We all want those maggots out!

Now please loan me that crystal ball you are using that informs you he is going to lose against that stinking, lying piece of hildabeast shit. I need it for the next big lottery jackpot my friend. ;)-Tyr

I'm not glued to Trump. Hell, someone decide who it is then, tell us who it is that will definitely beat this skank running on the Dem side, and I'll gladly vote for that person. :) But if left to choices, Trump fits my style the best. Maybe him and his rhetoric can find a way to ship Hillary out of the country after he wins, or at least put her behind bars. :)

Black Diamond
11-28-2015, 04:44 PM
The middle decides elections. That is why i fear trump winning the nom. No one has a crystal ball, but I don't think trump can win the general short of a cataclysmic event.

jimnyc
11-28-2015, 04:52 PM
The middle decides elections. That is why i fear trump winning the nom. No one has a crystal ball, but I don't think trump can win the general short of a cataclysmic event.

I had a few threads about this. He's my front runner, but from everything I have seen he has the least chance against Hillary compared with Carson or Cruz (and maybe Fiorina at the time?). But hell, times and things change. Some thought Hillary was unbeatable in 2008, and some nitwit with no experience beat her out.

If the middle wants to play a part in our election process, and weed out the candidates, they need to make themselves heard as others are. Maybe folks would think twice if there was a better way to know how the candidates will fair down the line. This is the time for EVERYONE to speak out. That's the next best thing to the crystal ball - speaking out and being informed.

Gunny
11-28-2015, 04:53 PM
I think his stances and what he wants to do to improve foreign trade are workable. While I don't think he can toss out 11 million folks overnight, I think at least enforcing laws and deporting those that are caught committing crimes, at the very least, is workable. With some issues to be worked out, I think enforcing and building a wall in more areas is workable. I think even you would agree with his stance on the VA. I don't know much about extensive plans, but his stances on guns and the 2nd amendment are in line with what I believe. I don't see many issues with his tax plan, nor do I see it as not being able to be fulfilled.

Yes, he talks smack about illegals, is rough around the edges and I'm sure his demeanor pisses people off. But for a few months now people have been stating he has no plan, he just says he'll get good people, he can do this, he can't do that... And no offense, but it would appear all of those people really aren't too informed about Trump and his stances.

Look, you KNOW if anyone knows about pissing people off and being rough around the edges it's me. However, I am very nonconfrontational. And I know when and where to play nice when I have to. Trump is neither. He can't bully his way into everything he wants.

I don't care about deporting illegals. I don't care about a wall. He'll get neither done. Congress will stop him. And let's be clear, he probably will NOT have the support of Congress. The RNC is just biting its lip because he's the frontrunner. The Dems did the same with Carter and he didn't have their support in Congress.

What I don't like seeing is anyone getting ticked off about this crap. I know several of y'all like Trump. Big deal. I lose all kinds of sleep over it. :rolleyes:

I don't like words being put in my mouth, and I don't like people getting pissy because I don't like "their guy". You know my stance and it hasn't changed. Go and vote against the "D". As far as my opinion of Trump goes, it stands.

Gunny
11-28-2015, 04:59 PM
I'll also point out that "divide and conquer" is as old as time as a strategy. It's working for ISIS and it's worked for the left last 2 elections and it's going to work this time around too. If we don't quit all the infighting, Hillary will be President.

jimnyc
11-28-2015, 05:02 PM
Look, you KNOW if anyone knows about pissing people off and being rough around the edges it's me. However, I am very nonconfrontational. And I know when and where to play nice when I have to. Trump is neither. He can't bully his way into everything he wants.

I don't care about deporting illegals. I don't care about a wall. He'll get neither done. Congress will stop him. And let's be clear, he probably will NOT have the support of Congress. The RNC is just biting its lip because he's the frontrunner. The Dems did the same with Carter and he didn't have their support in Congress.

What I don't like seeing is anyone getting ticked off about this crap. I know several of y'all like Trump. Big deal. I lose all kinds of sleep over it. :rolleyes:

I don't like words being put in my mouth, and I don't like people getting pissy because I don't like "their guy". You know my stance and it hasn't changed. Go and vote against the "D". As far as my opinion of Trump goes, it stands.

I like Trump. I also like Carson, and love Cruz. I'm not ticked about anything. Just pointed out some facts was all. I didn't place words in your mouth. I didn't get pissy. Maybe you quoted the wrong person with that crap?

I'll be just as happy with Cruz for example. Or Carson. But who's fault is it that they are down in the polls? Where are these tons of people that don't like Trump? Because this is the time. If folks don't like what is being said thus far, someone else needs to speak up, and folks support that person. I'm cool with a few of the others. But Trump is obviously doing something that the others are incapable of doing thus far, or they would be the one in the lead.

Gunny
11-28-2015, 05:12 PM
I like Trump. I also like Carson, and love Cruz. I'm not ticked about anything. Just pointed out some facts was all. I didn't place words in your mouth. I didn't get pissy. Maybe you quoted the wrong person with that crap?

I'll be just as happy with Cruz for example. Or Carson. But who's fault is it that they are down in the polls? Where are these tons of people that don't like Trump? Because this is the time. If folks don't like what is being said thus far, someone else needs to speak up, and folks support that person. I'm cool with a few of the others. But Trump is obviously doing something that the others are incapable of doing thus far, or they would be the one in the lead.

No, but LTG was getting bent out of shape. Apparently a certain board owner is skimming threads. I am not the one taking anything personally here. :whistling2:

What Trump is doing is playing to the camera and appealing to emotion; which, I also think is wrong. The most qualified candidate to me was Rick Perry. We have a better budget in Texas than the US has. And whatever the left likes bitch about, it took 8 years of Bush and 12 years of Perry to undo the hole our last Dem governor put us in.

Of what's left, Bush is the most qualified. He's got a proven record. Trump is a real estate developer. Being a commercial electrician for 15 years, I kinda know how they operate.

LongTermGuy
11-28-2015, 07:40 PM
You in a mood or something today? Trump sucks and can't fulfill ANY of his promises. He's a bag of wind and looks like Harry the Eagle from Sesame Street. He's so damned petty he gets distracted by the least perceived insult and goes on a tear and loses focus of what he's supposed to be doing. Yeah, I want THAT finger on the trigger.:rolleyes: He'll get shut down at every turn.

If he appeals to your anger, fine. Again, that is NOT the prerequisite for anyone I want as President or Commander in Chief. You want some angry MF-er in the WH vote for me. I can at least maintain my focus on the task at hand and don't spend all my time running off at the mouth.


....ahhhhh...enjoying my coffee...uummmm...Good evening..Oh...BTW...Your guy sucks too..*who ever that is..dont hear you talk much about him....

...Trump has ...as with many got your Panties in a wad...see big boy ..we can do this all night...You vote for who ever you like and I will do the same....Ummm ...Damn! my coffee is good tonight!......

..BTW...WHEN I got up I was thinking about that Pittsburgh Sea-hawks game Sunday...I know Jimmy is thinking about...*Its a must NEEDED win for Pittsburgh...!

Do you hear that Jimmy??:laugh:

LongTermGuy
11-28-2015, 07:47 PM
No, but LTG was getting bent out of shape. Apparently a certain board owner is skimming threads. I am not the one taking anything personally here. :whistling2:

What Trump is doing is playing to the camera and appealing to emotion; which, I also think is wrong. The most qualified candidate to me was Rick Perry. We have a better budget in Texas than the US has. And whatever the left likes bitch about, it took 8 years of Bush and 12 years of Perry to undo the hole our last Dem governor put us in.

Of what's left, Bush is the most qualified. He's got a proven record. Trump is a real estate developer. Being a commercial electrician for 15 years, I kinda know how they operate.


Jesus Gunny...Relax!.....You sound like and old little bitch that wants to keep yakking...and Yakkiing..Let it go bro...aint no big deal ...the people will decide who they want....*we all Know who is who around here and which candidates each of us Likes and will stand by...None of us can do a damn thing about it here...dont take it personal...and don't say you dont...*Now Gunny ..Confess and you will be forgiven....!!!:laugh:

Black Diamond
11-28-2015, 08:22 PM
:popcorn:

LongTermGuy
11-28-2015, 08:24 PM
:popcorn:

What....? No damn Beer?:laugh:

Elessar
11-28-2015, 08:44 PM
Well...

One thing for certain is that Trump is voicing thoughts and feelings
many people hold.

Bombastic, yes. But direct? Even more Yes.

jimnyc
11-28-2015, 09:06 PM
No, but LTG was getting bent out of shape. Apparently a certain board owner is skimming threads. I am not the one taking anything personally here. :whistling2:

What Trump is doing is playing to the camera and appealing to emotion; which, I also think is wrong. The most qualified candidate to me was Rick Perry. We have a better budget in Texas than the US has. And whatever the left likes bitch about, it took 8 years of Bush and 12 years of Perry to undo the hole our last Dem governor put us in.

Of what's left, Bush is the most qualified. He's got a proven record. Trump is a real estate developer. Being a commercial electrician for 15 years, I kinda know how they operate.

What board owner, what are you talking about?

Of course Trump is playing to the cameras, that's what ALL the candidates are doing right about now. While it is true he is playing to emotions - those emotions are real. It's not Trump who made the entire country pissed with illegal immigration. That anger was there and he used it to his advantage. Same with ISIS and other foreign policy stuff. People are tired of looking weak and bowing to others. Trump is in line with the feelings of many, many folks in America.

I'd be curious from others as to what other candidates are better, and why, and what specifically they are stating they will do, that Trump is not. Seriously, what is so great - or even better, different - about the plans of those against Trump? (those that have a shot in hell). We hear tons of anti-Trump talk, but seemingly there's a shortage of threads/posts on what is so great about the other candidates. I'm more than happy to discuss such things.

I know how some real estate developers are too, but they certainly aren't all the same. My wife is a real estate developer who has even done some deals with Trump and his company. He may have other shitty things about him, but his RE companies don't disqualify him.

I know what you're saying about qualifications. But Hillary would supposedly have as much qualifications as the next, and that doesn't mean much to me. I'm a little tired of career politicians. That's not to say that Trump is the answer, but "status quo" or someone "who knows" congress and other leaders doesn't speak much to me. That tells me "another insider".

Black Diamond
12-02-2015, 01:10 AM
I had a few threads about this. He's my front runner, but from everything I have seen he has the least chance against Hillary compared with Carson or Cruz (and maybe Fiorina at the time?). But hell, times and things change. Some thought Hillary was unbeatable in 2008, and some nitwit with no experience beat her out.

If the middle wants to play a part in our election process, and weed out the candidates, they need to make themselves heard as others are. Maybe folks would think twice if there was a better way to know how the candidates will fair down the line. This is the time for EVERYONE to speak out. That's the next best thing to the crystal ball - speaking out and being informed.

Carly Carly Carly.

She has the temperament we need and she exudes strength and good leadership.

Trump is a loose cannon. And I have serious doubts about how conservative (or right wing ) he is. Abortion and single payer come to mind. And how aggressive on foreign policy is he? Not my last choice but not my first. I am worried.

Carson is a good man but does not exude strength or leadership.

Jeb has the experience but I am so thoroughly disappointed... There's my wife. Why don't you apologize. Gmafb. George W kept us safe?? That was insulting. I don't blame W for 9/11 but he didn't keep us safe. He should not have brought that up.

Rand Paul is an absolute dipshit. He would be similar to Obama on foreign policy. He is too much of an idealist. No pragmatism whatsoever.

Rubio is extremely sharp but has never led anything and that shows to some extent. He is probably my second choice.

Perianne
12-02-2015, 01:19 AM
Carly Carly Carly.

She has the temperament we need and she exudes strength and good leadership.

Trump is a loose cannon. And I have serious doubts about how conservative (or right wing ) he is. Abortion and single payer come to mind. And how aggressive on foreign policy is he? Not my last choice but not my first. I am worried.

Carson is a good man but does not exude strength or leadership.

Jeb has the experience but I am so thoroughly disappointed... There's my wife. Why don't you apologize. Gmafb. George W kept us safe?? That was insulting. I don't blame W for 9/11 but he didn't keep us safe. He should not have brought that up.

Rand Paul is an absolute dipshit. He would be similar to Obama on foreign policy. He is too much of an idealist. No pragmatism whatsoever.

Rubio is extremely sharp but has never led anything and that shows to some extent. He is probably my second choice.
@Black Diamond (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=2142)...

Take a wary look at Rubio. He is pro-immigrant. Very pro-immigrant. Same with Jeb, though I think he would probably be a solid moderate Republican. I might vote for him if he wins, but I will have to take a xanax before I ever vote for Rubio. Rubio is at the bottom of the list for me.

Remember, if we lose the immigration battle, we lose everything.

Trump kinda lost me when he made fun of the retarded man. Now that in itself does not hurt him with me so much, but it shows that one never knows what he will do and that he will do something to blow it and let the Democrats win.

While probably a good man, Carson comes across as soft.

And like you, I do like Carly. But Cruz is my choice for right now. To me the ideal ticket would be Cruz/Fiorina.

And as always, I appreciate your conservative beliefs.