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Drummond
12-23-2015, 07:40 PM
From 'Mullah Krekar' ...

http://woundedamericanwarrior.com/devout-moderate-muslim-muslims-have-the-right-to-kill-any-non-muslim-who-does-not-respect-islam-video/


A video recently surfaced of an interview with a so-called “moderate” Muslim cleric on a Norwegian TV show. The video has gone viral because it shows an Islamic leader in the West being honest about what Islam teaches when it comes to non-Muslims.

In response to questions about Muslim violence against non-Muslims, Mullah Krekar tells Norwegian TV that not only is it okay for Muslims to kill non-Muslims, it’s actually required by Qu’ranic law. Further the imam says that “Muslims have the right to Kill anyone who does not respect Islam.”

Muslim religious leader: ‘Muslims have the right to kill anyone who does not respect Islam’

Host: For someone who burns the Koran, the punishment, according to Islam, is death, is that correct?

Mullah Krekar: If you burn the Koran, which is an insult, then the answer is clearly yes.

Host: But the man who has burned the Koran, would it be right that he loses his life even though he lives in Norway?

Mullah Krekar: I know absolutely that he has committed a criminal offense where the punishment is death. The responsibility for carrying out the punishment is on the Ummah, our Muslim brotherhood.

Regardless if he lives in Norway, or if he is Barack Obama, I am not myself threatening the person.

I am telling you what is stated in the law.

I have told you what is in the Koran and in the Hadith.

I have not pointed at one specific person and said “You, we must kill.”

Host: One of those who burned a Koran is afraid because somebody who listens to you might want to kill him, because you have said that is the punishment according to the Koran. Isn’t there the risk that somebody would listen to you?

Mullah Krekar: He must fear… anybody who follows the Koran… will have to fear the crime he has committed and fear that his punishment will be executed…

Anybody who knows of this punishment can kill him. Anybody. We will defend out religion with our own blood. Our only limits are limits of blood, limits made of explosives.

Those who insult our religion must know that one of us will die. Those who insult our religion and our honor must understand – that this is a matter of life and death.

Host: Would you be satisfied if this man gets killed?

Mullah Krekar: Yes. I would send a gift to the person who kills him. Why wouldn’t I be happy about that?

Host: How would you describe those who attacked Charlie Hebdo?

Mullah Krekar: They were defending their honor, they were defending their holiness… Yes, of course {they were heroes}. They were Jihadists.


So, then, Trump had nothing to concern him, where Muslims were concerned ? REALLY ?

gabosaurus
12-23-2015, 07:52 PM
Link to the original broadcast perhaps? Otherwise...

http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1323366048922_5624544.png

Drummond
12-23-2015, 08:03 PM
Link to the original broadcast perhaps? Otherwise...

http://cdn.someecards.com/someecards/usercards/1323366048922_5624544.png

Your basis for doubting the report, is ... ?

... and considering the caption comment you've posted ... should I infer that you'll automatically ignore any number of such pronouncements ... because they're less than convenient to your philosophy ?

In the meantime, here's a picture of Muslim 'innocence' ... since no crime is shown as being committed in the picture .....

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8166&stc=1

Drummond
12-23-2015, 08:10 PM
Gabby .. this site carries the video.

http://americannews.com/muslim-leader-muslims-have-the-right-to-kill-any-non-muslim-who-does-not-respect-islam-video/

gabosaurus
12-23-2015, 08:12 PM
I don't doubt the authenticity at all. But agitators are the exception and not the rule.

Elessar
12-23-2015, 08:20 PM
I don't doubt the authenticity at all. But agitators are the exception and not the rule.

Sometimes your blindness is amazing.

Of course agitators are the exception. Who the hell
do you think the fight should be with?

Black Diamond
12-23-2015, 08:21 PM
Sometimes your blindness is amazing.

Of course agitators are the exception. Who the hell
do you think the fight should be with?

Is Islam the problem or is a small faction the problem?

Perianne
12-23-2015, 08:28 PM
Is Islam the problem or is a small faction the problem?

It's the type of "people" who adhere to Islam. If I were a Muslim, I wouldn't act like that. Of course I don't have the proper skin tone to be a Muslim. And I have no affinity for goats.

Drummond
12-23-2015, 08:31 PM
I don't doubt the authenticity at all.

Congratulations.


But agitators are the exception and not the rule.

The exception ?

Besides, have you been paying attention ? That joker was at pains to preach that Jihads, and all that comes from them, are (and should be) a mandated reaction to those who are rivals of Islam. Those who don't believe. Those who criticise or mock in any way. The claim is made that this is what constitutes a mandatory expectation of Muslims, therefore, is in no way any form of 'exception' to it.

Since you apparently think that 'agitators' like him are 'the exception', then, how many such preachers would have to be broadcasting such hate messages before you were willing to give them credence ? And in the meantime .. before you were finally willing to wake from your slumber .. just how many deaths would such 'agitators' have succeeded in approving ?

Gabby, why is it always the same story ? Why do you, and Lefties like you, INSIST upon our being complacent about such dangers, and why do you dismiss anyone who wants to snap you out of that complacency ?

Drummond
12-23-2015, 08:35 PM
Is Islam the problem or is a small faction the problem?

As I understand it, the root cause is the Koran (and the long-dead pervert who inspired it all). Therefore, Islam cannot fail to be the problem.

There may be differences of adherence, according to the sect involved. Nonetheless, what underpins ALL of them, the Koran, is the problem.

Black Diamond
12-23-2015, 08:45 PM
As I understand it, the root cause is the Koran (and the long-dead pervert who inspired it all). Therefore, Islam cannot fail to be the problem.

There may be differences of adherence, according to the sect involved. Nonetheless, what underpins ALL of them, the Koran, is the problem.
See this is the challenge. If you blame a book (I am guilty of this) should those kids' parents who sued Ozzy Osbourne when they committed suicide be awarded settlements?

Drummond
12-23-2015, 08:53 PM
See this is the challenge. If you blame a book (I am guilty of this) should those kids' parents who sued Ozzy Osbourne when they committed suicide be awarded settlements?

I'm not familiar with the Ozzy Osborne stories at all. But surely, there's a bit of a difference between anything Osborne might have authored, and a religious work that's the basis of an entire religion several hundred years old, a religion which literally has well over a billion followers (some of them homicidal maniacs) ?

Or has Osbourne founded his own religion, and nobody told me ?

Perianne
12-23-2015, 08:53 PM
It's the type of "people" who adhere to Islam. If I were a Muslim, I wouldn't act like that. Of course I don't have the proper skin tone to be a Muslim. And I have no affinity for goats.


See this is the challenge. If you blame a book (I am guilty of this) should those kids' parents who sued Ozzy Osbourne when they committed suicide be awarded settlements?

Again, it is the type of losers who adhere to the Koran's words that is the problem. The Koran doesn't make me behead people because I am not a loser.

Drummond
12-23-2015, 08:56 PM
Again, it is the type of losers who adhere to the Koran's words that is the problem. The Koran doesn't make me behead people because I am not a loser.

Well, you never know. Some of your fellow Muslims might expect you to at least contemplate such actions, were you one yourself.

They lower the tone of the entire neighbourhood ... :rolleyes:

Black Diamond
12-23-2015, 08:56 PM
I'm not familiar with the Ozzy Osborne stories at all. But surely, there's a bit of a difference between anything Osborne might have authored, and a religious work that's the basis of an entire religion several hundred years old, a religion which literally has well over a billion followers (some of them homicidal maniacs) ?

Or has Osbourne founded his own religion, and nobody told me ?

Parents blamed his "Suicide Solution" for their child's death.

Black Diamond
12-23-2015, 08:57 PM
Parents blamed his "Suicide Solution" for their child's death.

Ozzy was sued. Ozzy won.

Drummond
12-23-2015, 08:59 PM
Parents blamed his "Suicide Solution" for their child's death.

Well, as I say, I don't know the story. I don't know that the parents were necessarily wrong. Having said that, why would that child adhere to whatever had been written, with the same devotion as a Muslim would feel towards the Koran ?

Drummond
12-23-2015, 09:00 PM
Ozzy was sued. Ozzy won.

Seems reasonable. I doubt that Ozzy 'commanded' a death, as the Koran mandates Jihadist fervour ...

Black Diamond
12-23-2015, 09:06 PM
Well, as I say, I don't know the story. I don't know that the parents were necessarily wrong. Having said that, why would that child adhere to whatever had been written, with the same devotion as a Muslim would feel towards the Koran ?

Unknown. He wrote the song, he claims, about his friend, Bon Scott, who had died from alcohol poisoning. Parents sued because in the background, he says get the guns out. Shoot shoot shoot.

Drummond
12-23-2015, 09:13 PM
Unknown. He wrote the song, he claims, about his friend, Bon Scott, who had died from alcohol poisoning. Parents sued because in the background, he says get the guns out. Shoot shoot shoot.

Well, OK. I'd need to do research to answer this properly ... though I still doubt Osborne was inciting religious fervour, regardless ..

Elessar
12-23-2015, 10:07 PM
Is Islam the problem or is a small faction the problem?

A faction I would say, Just as the difference in
Ireland was 30 years ago.

It is not all, just the militant among them.

Elessar
12-23-2015, 10:10 PM
Well, OK. I'd need to do research to answer this properly ... though I still doubt Osborne was inciting religious fervour, regardless ..

Ozzy was always a bit...."ODD"...:laugh:

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
12-23-2015, 10:48 PM
Gabby .. this site carries the video.

http://americannews.com/muslim-leader-muslims-have-the-right-to-kill-any-non-muslim-who-does-not-respect-islam-video/

I WATCHED THAT STINKING BASTARD AND HIS ARROGANCE AND INSANITY. SOME PATRIOT IN NORWAY SHOULD EXECUTE THAT MURDER INSPIRING BASTARD IMHO.
These stinking vermin need to be eradicated like the damn roaches they are IMHO !!!--Tyr

LongTermGuy
12-23-2015, 11:20 PM
It's the type of "people" who adhere to Islam. If I were a Muslim, I wouldn't act like that. Of course I don't have the proper skin tone to be a Muslim. And I have no affinity for goats.


Nice....If I were a muslim ...wanting to "live in the free world"...I would burn the Koran ...It doesn't go well with western civilization ....If thats a problem...I would stay in muslim land and do the world a favor...

gabosaurus
12-23-2015, 11:25 PM
Thirty years ago this week, two young fans of the British metal band Judas Priest tried to commit suicide (and eventually died) after listening to the band's "Stained Class" album.
The families blamed the band, saying the album contained secret messages hidden by "subliminal masking." The result was a lengthy trial that devastated band members.
Too band the families never realize that it was they that contributed to their kids leading miserable lives leading to thoughts of suicide.

The result is all too common. People lead delusional and paranoid lives, often influenced by past mishaps that they are unable to distance themselves from. Instead of blaming themselves, they look for scapegoats.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/judas-priest-suicide/

Black Diamond
12-23-2015, 11:27 PM
Thirty years ago this week, two young fans of the British metal band Judas Priest tried to commit suicide (and eventually died) after listening to the band's "Stained Class" album.
The families blamed the band, saying the album contained secret messages hidden by "subliminal masking." The result was a lengthy trial that devastated band members.
Too band the families never realize that it was they that contributed to their kids leading miserable lives leading to thoughts of suicide.

The result is all too common. People lead delusional and paranoid lives, often influenced by past mishaps that they are unable to distance themselves from. Instead of blaming themselves, they look for scapegoats.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/judas-priest-suicide/
Same as Ozzy, yes?

Perianne
12-23-2015, 11:28 PM
Thirty years ago this week, two young fans of the British metal band Judas Priest tried to commit suicide (and eventually died) after listening to the band's "Stained Class" album.
The families blamed the band, saying the album contained secret messages hidden by "subliminal masking." The result was a lengthy trial that devastated band members.
Too band the families never realize that it was they that contributed to their kids leading miserable lives leading to thoughts of suicide.

The result is all too common. People lead delusional and paranoid lives, often influenced by past mishaps that they are unable to distance themselves from. Instead of blaming themselves, they look for scapegoats.

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/judas-priest-suicide/

So you're saying that Muslims are delusional in how they behead cartoonists who draw YoMohammed? They can't let it go, so they go looking for someone to kill?

gabosaurus
12-23-2015, 11:28 PM
Pretty much the same. Even today, you have radical evangelicals and members of the religious right who are every bit as scary as Muslims.

CSM
12-24-2015, 06:56 AM
Pretty much the same. Even today, you have radical evangelicals and members of the religious right who are every bit as scary as Muslims.

Oh of course, we see them on the news all the time, beheading people, dropping gays off the top of buildings, and stoning women for adultery. Damn those radical evangelicals and members of the religious right!

Drummond
12-24-2015, 09:55 AM
Pretty much the same. Even today, you have radical evangelicals and members of the religious right who are every bit as scary as Muslims.

You just can't face reality, can you ? The convolutions you have to go through in order to retain 'PC' beliefs is a 'wonder to behold' ....

Islam is anything BUT a religion of peace. Jihad is central to what drives it, it is the chief vehicle by which it hopes to advance. How many more terrorist attacks will the world need to see, before that simple and obvious truth is finally understood ?

Christianity has no comparable 'Jihad' concept, AT ALL. And if anyone on the Right reacts .. then, they ARE reacting, and not INITIATING.

Political correctness is brainwashing people into not believing what they're shown is true, and told is true. 9/11. 7/7. Bali. Achille Lauro. Paris (two attacks, just this year !). San Bernardino. Atosha railway station, Spain. AND SO ON.

Now, you've got a hate preacher saying he'd like to give a PRESENT to A TERRORIST. One saying it's all 'lawful' and acceptable in the service of Islam. And yet, STILL, you try and find excuses to divert people from this truth, trying to foist a guilt trip on OTHERS.

Unbelievable. All we need, now, is for your comrade FJ to come along and wax lyrical about the 'humanity' of terrorists ... and you'd have a nuthouse in the making .... !!!

CSM
12-25-2015, 08:04 AM
You just can't face reality, can you ? The convolutions you have to go through in order to retain 'PC' beliefs is a 'wonder to behold' ....

Islam is anything BUT a religion of peace. Jihad is central to what drives it, it is the chief vehicle by which it hopes to advance. How many more terrorist attacks will the world need to see, before that simple and obvious truth is finally understood ?

Christianity has no comparable 'Jihad' concept, AT ALL. And if anyone on the Right reacts .. then, they ARE reacting, and not INITIATING.

Political correctness is brainwashing people into not believing what they're shown is true, and told is true. 9/11. 7/7. Bali. Achille Lauro. Paris (two attacks, just this year !). San Bernardino. Atosha railway station, Spain. AND SO ON.

Now, you've got a hate preacher saying he'd like to give a PRESENT to A TERRORIST. One saying it's all 'lawful' and acceptable in the service of Islam. And yet, STILL, you try and find excuses to divert people from this truth, trying to foist a guilt trip on OTHERS.

Unbelievable. All we need, now, is for your comrade FJ to come along and wax lyrical about the 'humanity' of terrorists ... and you'd have a nuthouse in the making .... !!!

Unfortunately, the nuthouse is already made. It was built by liberal progressives, maintained by academia and sustained by our Democrat Party.

Elessar
12-25-2015, 11:47 AM
Is Islam the problem or is a small faction the problem?

I will not blame the entire religion, only the
extremists who pervert the faith.

Drummond
12-25-2015, 02:31 PM
I will not blame the entire religion, only the
extremists who pervert the faith.

But here's the problem ... if the 'extremists' truly are perverting it, how come they're so successful in getting so many Muslims to join them ? We're not talking about some small, fringe debating society here, having only a dozen or so members, stuck in one locality.

And how come there are so many versions of that 'extremism' .. how do they proliferate ?

No, it stands to reason that there's far more to it than that. And I have a name for it.

It's called the Koran.

By the way .. here's a thought. If Islam truly is 'a religion of peace', how come the extremists aren't extremely peaceful ??:death::death:

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8182&stc=1


http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8183&stc=1

LongTermGuy
12-25-2015, 04:33 PM
But here's the problem ... if the 'extremists' truly are perverting it, how come they're so successful in getting so many Muslims to join them ? We're not talking about some small, fringe debating society here, having only a dozen or so members, stuck in one locality.

And how come there are so many versions of that 'extremism' .. how do they proliferate ?

No, it stands to reason that there's far more to it than that. And I have a name for it.

It's called the Koran.

By the way .. here's a thought. If Islam truly is 'a religion of peace', how come the extremists aren't extremely peaceful ??:death::death:

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8182&stc=1


http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8183&stc=1


>>>>>There is Only One koran....<<<<<<

http://chersonandmolschky.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Qaradawi_Death_for_Apostasy-450x450.jpg

"ISLAMOPHOBIC’ MUSLIMS LEAVE ISLAM AFTER READING THE QUR’AN"

......Muslim apologists do their best to silence apostates and their criticism of Islam by throwing out the dreaded “Islamophobia” label. Apostates are people who were once Muslims themselves but have since left the religion for a variety of reasons. Many are left shell-shocked, victims or witnesses to Muslim abuses and violence, and others have simply done the unthinkable- they opened the Qur’an and read it.

One such person is Muslim apostate Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who has gotten considerable press lately with the Brandeis University controversy (http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/04/12/ayaan-hirsi-alis-reaction-brandeis-hypocrisy/). The school first offered and later rescinded the offer for an honorary <nobr>degree (http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/04/28/islamophobic-muslims-leave-islam-reading-quran/#)</nobr> based on her impressive work for women’s rights after Ali was labeled an “Islamophobe.”

This was quite an interesting criticism considering the fact that she was raised Muslim herself, and as such, she became a victim of atrocities like female genital mutilation (FGM) and forced marriage. Ali was once a pious Muslim, but after the Somali native was granted political asylum to the Netherlands and <nobr>received (http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/04/28/islamophobic-muslims-leave-islam-reading-quran/#)</nobr> an education, she began to reflect on Islam and its teachings. After the 9/11 attacks, she picked up the Qur’an and hadith, and it wasn’t long before she renounced her faith.

Another apostate is the well-known Ali Sina, who startedfaithfreedom.org (http://www.faithfreedom.org/) in 2001, after reading the Qur’an and coming to the conclusion that Islam is a Satanic religion, and Muhammad was a psychopath as well as, Sina writes, “a liar, a pedophile, an assassin, a rapist, a thief, a lecher, a narcissist, a terrorist, a mass murderer and a madman. Muslims emulate their prophet and this explains the madness in the Islamic world. They are vile and violent because they worship a criminal.” (http://alisina.org/about-ali-sina/)

He goes even further and declares that Muhammad and Islam do not deserve any more respect than people like Charles Manson and that rather than comparing Muhammad to Jesus, Buddha or Zoroaster, he should be compared to insane criminals like Hitler and Stalin.
Sina does not hate Muslims but hates Islam and has been on a mission to <nobr>save (http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/04/28/islamophobic-muslims-leave-islam-reading-quran/#)</nobr> those following the teachings of a madman. His efforts have saved thousands of Muslims by exposing the truth about Islam and bringing these people back to humanity."

http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/04/28/islamophobic-muslims-leave-islam-reading-quran/

Drummond
12-25-2015, 07:32 PM
>>>>>There is Only One koran....<<<<<<

http://chersonandmolschky.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Qaradawi_Death_for_Apostasy-450x450.jpg

"ISLAMOPHOBIC’ MUSLIMS LEAVE ISLAM AFTER READING THE QUR’AN"

......Muslim apologists do their best to silence apostates and their criticism of Islam by throwing out the dreaded “Islamophobia” label. Apostates are people who were once Muslims themselves but have since left the religion for a variety of reasons. Many are left shell-shocked, victims or witnesses to Muslim abuses and violence, and others have simply done the unthinkable- they opened the Qur’an and read it.

One such person is Muslim apostate Ayaan Hirsi Ali, who has gotten considerable press lately with the Brandeis University controversy (http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/04/12/ayaan-hirsi-alis-reaction-brandeis-hypocrisy/). The school first offered and later rescinded the offer for an honorary <nobr>degree (http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/04/28/islamophobic-muslims-leave-islam-reading-quran/#)</nobr> based on her impressive work for women’s rights after Ali was labeled an “Islamophobe.”

This was quite an interesting criticism considering the fact that she was raised Muslim herself, and as such, she became a victim of atrocities like female genital mutilation (FGM) and forced marriage. Ali was once a pious Muslim, but after the Somali native was granted political asylum to the Netherlands and <nobr>received (http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/04/28/islamophobic-muslims-leave-islam-reading-quran/#)</nobr> an education, she began to reflect on Islam and its teachings. After the 9/11 attacks, she picked up the Qur’an and hadith, and it wasn’t long before she renounced her faith.

Another apostate is the well-known Ali Sina, who startedfaithfreedom.org (http://www.faithfreedom.org/) in 2001, after reading the Qur’an and coming to the conclusion that Islam is a Satanic religion, and Muhammad was a psychopath as well as, Sina writes, “a liar, a pedophile, an assassin, a rapist, a thief, a lecher, a narcissist, a terrorist, a mass murderer and a madman. Muslims emulate their prophet and this explains the madness in the Islamic world. They are vile and violent because they worship a criminal.” (http://alisina.org/about-ali-sina/)

He goes even further and declares that Muhammad and Islam do not deserve any more respect than people like Charles Manson and that rather than comparing Muhammad to Jesus, Buddha or Zoroaster, he should be compared to insane criminals like Hitler and Stalin.
Sina does not hate Muslims but hates Islam and has been on a mission to <nobr>save (http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/04/28/islamophobic-muslims-leave-islam-reading-quran/#)</nobr> those following the teachings of a madman. His efforts have saved thousands of Muslims by exposing the truth about Islam and bringing these people back to humanity."

http://chersonandmolschky.com/2014/04/28/islamophobic-muslims-leave-islam-reading-quran/




I've certainly heard of Qaradawi, the Muslim you feature in your previous post. I should have ... he received a lot of support from an ex-London mayor, a Left-winger called Ken Livingstone. You may consider from the following that there are no depths the Left won't stoop to, to support Muslims in all their backward barbarities.

See .....

http://leftfootforward.org/2010/09/livingstone-al-qaradawi-is-a-leading-progressive-voice-in-muslim-world/


Former London Mayor Ken Livingstone has described Islamist extremist Yusuf al-Qaradawi as “one of the leading progressive voices in the Muslim world”.

Should a man who supports wife-beating, FGM, and either lashing or killing homosexuals, really be considered a “progressive”?

In an interview with Ahmed Versi of The Muslim News, Labour Mayoral candidate and former London mayor, Ken Livingstone, appeared to suggest that he should.

Yusuf al-Qaradawi is often described as the ‘spiritual leader’ of the Muslim Brotherhood, the world’s largest Islamist organisation. In 2004 he turned down an offer to lead the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood and has instead pursued a career in televangelism and as an advisor on Islamic banking. As the interviewer mentions, al-Qaradawi is also banned from entering the UK (and, since 1999, the USA).

Among al-Qaradawi’s many publications is a book which seeks to give guidance to Muslims living today about how they should live their lives. It is called ‘The Lawful and Prohibited in Islam’ (pdf). On page 76 he refers to homosexuality as a “perverted act” and “depraved practice”. He then discusses potential punishments for homosexuals:

“The jurists of Islam have held differing opinions concerning the punishment for this abominable practice. Should it be the same as the punishment for fornication [i.e. lashing], or should both the active and passive participants be put to death? While such punishments may seem cruel, they have been suggested to maintain the purity of the Islamic society and to keep it clean of perverted elements.”

On page 90, al-Qaradawi goes on to state that, if a husband “senses that feelings of disobedience and rebelliousness are rising against him in his wife” and he cannot address these through reasoning with her or sleeping apart from her, then “it is permissible for him to beat her lightly with his hands”.

Al-Qaradawi has also issued a fatwa (religious opinion) arguing that “circumcision is better for a woman’s health and it enhances her conjugal relation with her husband” and that, while it is “not obligatory”, “whoever finds it serving the interest of his daughters should do it, and I personally support this under the current circumstances in the modern world”.

Are such views really “progressive”?

Elessar
12-25-2015, 08:00 PM
But here's the problem ... if the 'extremists' truly are perverting it, how come they're so successful in getting so many Muslims to join them ? We're not talking about some small, fringe debating society here, having only a dozen or so members, stuck in one locality.

And how come there are so many versions of that 'extremism' .. how do they proliferate ?

No, it stands to reason that there's far more to it than that. And I have a name for it.

It's called the Koran.

By the way .. here's a thought. If Islam truly is 'a religion of peace', how come the extremists aren't extremely peaceful ??:death::death:

I cannot argue anything you wrote.

The mindset sucks.....

Some are peaceful, just wanting to survive. Others insist on Jihad.

It is similar to Catholics in Northern Ireland. Not all are
rebellious, but those that are paint the face of them all.

LongTermGuy
12-25-2015, 08:57 PM
I cannot argue anything you wrote.

The mindset sucks.....

Some are peaceful, just wanting to survive. Others insist on Jihad.

It is similar to Catholics in Northern Ireland. Not all are
rebellious, but those that are paint the face of them all.


"We took a hard look, however, and found that the most prevalent myths of Islam are the ones held by Muslims and Western apologists. The only glaring exception to this is the misconception that all Muslims are alike (they aren't, of course), but even Muslims often believe this as well, as evidenced by the various contrary factions insisting that they are the true Muslims, while those who disagree with them are either infidels, hijackers, or hypocrites.
Don't be fooled! Hear the myths, but know the truth."


Quick read:

Islam Means 'Peace' (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#islammeanspeace)
Islam respects Women as Equals (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#women)
Jihad Means 'Inner Struggle' (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#jihad)
Islam is a Religion of Peace (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#peace)
Islam is Tolerant of Other Religions (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#tolerance)
Islam Facilitated a 'Golden Age' of Scientific Discovery (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#science)
Islam is Opposed to Slavery (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#slavery)
Islam is Incompatible with Terrorism (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#terrorism)
Islam is a Democracy (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#democracy)
The Quran is the Muslim Counterpart to the Bible (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#quran)

Islam Means ‘Peace’
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The Myth:
Muslim apologists sometimes claim that the root word of Islam is “al-Salaam,” which is “peace” in Arabic.
The Truth:
An Arabic word has only one root. The root word for Islam is “al-Silm,” which means “submission” or “surrender.” There is no disagreement about this among Arabic or Islamic scholars. al-Silm (submission) does not mean the same thing as al-Salaam (peace), otherwise they would be the same word.
Submission and peace can be very different concepts, even if a form of peace is often brought about by forcing others into submission. As the modern-day Islamic scholar, Ibrahim Sulaiman, puts it, "Jihad is not inhumane, despite its necessary violence and bloodshed, its ultimate desire is peace which is protected and enhanced by the rule of law."
In truth, the <nobr>Quran (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#)</nobr> not only calls Muslims to submit to Allah, it also orders them to subdue (http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/009-qmt.php#009.029)people of other religions until they are in a full state of submission to Islamic rule. This has inspired the aggressive history of Islam and its military and demographic success in conquering other cultures.

Islam Respects Women as Equals
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The Myth:
The Quran places men and women on equal foundation before Allah. Each person is judged according to his or her own deeds. Women have equal rights under Islamic law.
The Truth:
Merely stating that individuals will be judged as such by Allah does not mean that they have equal rights and roles, or that they are judged by the same standards.
There is no ambiguity in the Quran, the life of Muhammad, or Islamic law as to the inferiority of women to men despite the efforts of modern-day apologists to salvage Western-style feminism from scraps and fragments of verses that have historically held no such progressive interpretation.
After military conquests, Muhammad would dole out captured women as war prizes (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Muhammad/myths-mu-rape.htm) to his men. In at least one case, he advocated that they be raped in front of their husbands. Captured women were made into sex slaves by the very men who killed their husbands and brothers. There are four Quranic verses in which "Allah" makes clear that a Muslim master has full sexual access to his female slaves, yet there is not one that prohibits rape.
The Quran gives Muslim men permission to beat their wives for disobedience, but nowhere does it command love in marriage (although it is said to exist). The verses plainly say that husbands are “a degree above” wives. The Hadith says that women are intellectually inferior, and that they comprise the majority of Hell’s <nobr>occupants (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#)</nobr>.
Under Islamic law, a man may divorce his wife at his choosing. If he does this twice, then wishes to remarry her, she must first have sex with another man. Men are exempt from such degradations.
Muslim women are not free to marry whom they please, as are Muslim men. Their husband may also bring other wives (and slaves) into the marriage bed. And she must be sexually available to him at any time (as a field ready to be “tilled,” according to the holy book of Islam).
Muslim women do not inherit property in equal portion to males. This is somewhat ironic given that Islam owes its existence to the wealth of Muhammad's first wife, which would not otherwise have been inherited by her given that she had two brothers and her first husband had three sons.
A woman's testimony in court is considered to be worth only half that of a man’s, according to the Quran. Unlike a man, she must also cover her head - and often her face.
If a woman wants to prove that she was raped, then there must be four male witnesses to corroborate her account (according to strict Sharia). Otherwise she can be jailed or stoned to death for confessing to “adultery.”
Given all of this, it is quite a stretch to say that men and women have “equality under Islam” based on obscure theological analogies or comparisons. This is an entirely new ploy that is designed for modern tastes and disagrees sharply with the reality of Islamic law and history.
Further Reading from the Quran:
Veils (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/007-veils.htm)
Women Worth Less than Men (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/010-women-worth-less.htm)
Proving Rape under Islamic Law (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/002-rape_adultery.htm)
Wife-Beating (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/003-wife-beating.htm)
Divorce - A Man's Prerogative (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/005-triple-talaq.htm)
Remarriage (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/006-divorce-woman-remarry.htm)
Men in Charge of Women (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/022-man-in-charge-of-woman.htm)
Polygamy (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/017-polygamy.htm)

Jihad Means 'Inner Struggle'
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The Myth:
Islam’s Western apologists sometimes claim that since the Arabic word, Jihad, literally means “fight” or “struggle,” it refers to an “inner struggle” rather than holy war.
The Truth:
In Arabic, "jihad" means struggle. In Islam, it means holy war.
The Quran specifically exempts the disabled and elderly from Jihad (4:95), which would make no sense if the word is being used merely within the context of spiritual struggle. It is also unclear why Muhammad and his Quran would use <nobr>graphic language (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#)</nobr>, such as<nobr>smiting (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#)</nobr> fingers and heads from the hands and necks of unbelievers if he were speaking merely of character development.
With this in mind, Muslim apologists generally admit that there are two meanings to the word, but insist that “inner struggle” is the “greater Jihad,” whereas “holy war” is the “lesser.” In fact, this misconception is based only on an a single hadith that Islamic scholars generally agreed was fabricated (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/f44/hadith-authentication-greater-and-lesser-jihad-14200/).
By contrast, the most reliable of all Hadith collections is that of Bukhari. Jihad is mentioned over 200 times in reference to the words of Muhammad and each one carries a clear connotation to holy war, with only a handful of possible exceptions (dealing with a woman's supporting role during a time of holy war).
Further Reading:
The Greater-Lesser Jihad Myth (from a Muslim Source) (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Articles/Greater-Lesser-Jihad.htm)

Islam is a Religion of Peace
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The Myth:
Muhammad was a peaceful man who taught his followers to be the same. Muslims lived peacefully for centuries, fighting only in self-defense, and only when it was necessary. True Muslims would never act aggressively.
The Truth:
There shouldn't be any argument over who the "true Muslim" is because the Quran clearly distinguishes the true Muslim from the pretender in Sura 9 (http://www.dar-us-salam.com/TheNobleQuran/surah9.html) and elsewhere. According to this - one of the last chapters of the Quran - the true believer "strives and fights with their wealth and persons" while the hypocrites are those who "sit at home," refusing to join the jihad against unbelievers in foreign lands.
In truth, Muhammad organized 65 military campaigns in the last ten years of his life and personally led 27 of them. The more power that he attained, the smaller the excuse needed to go to battle, until finally he <nobr>began attacking (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#)</nobr> tribes merely because they were not yet part of his growing empire.
After Muhammad’s death, his successor immediately went to war with former allied tribes which wanted to go their own way. Abu Bakr called them 'apostates' and slaughtered anyone who did not want to remain Muslim. Eventually, he was successful in holding the empire together through blood and violence.
The prophet of Islam's most faithful followers and even his own family soon turned on each other as well. There were four caliphs (leaders) in the first twenty-five years, each of which was a trusted companion of his. Three of these four were murdered. The third caliph was murdered by those allied with the son of the first caliph. The fourth caliph was murdered in the midst of a conflict with the fifth caliph, who began a 100-year dynasty of excess and debauchery that was brought to an end in a gruesome, widespread bloodbath by descendents of Muhammad’s uncle (who was not even a Muslim).
Muhammad’s own daughter, Fatima, and his son-in-law, Ali, who both survived the pagan hardship during the Meccan years safe and sound, did not survive Islam after the death of Muhammad. Fatima died of stress from persecution within three months, and Ali was later assassinated by Muslim rivals. Their son (Muhammad’s grandson) was killed in battle with the faction that became today’s Sunnis. His people became Shias. The relatives and personal friends of Muhammad were mixed into both warring groups, which then fractured further into hostile sub-divisions as Islam expanded.
Muslim apologists, who like to say that is impossible for today's terrorists to be Muslim when they kill fellow Muslims, would have a very tough time explaining the war between Fatima's followers and Aisha to a knowledgeable audience. Muhammad explicitly held up both his favorite daughter and his favorite wife as model Muslim women, yet they were invoked respectively by each side in the violent civil war that followed his death. Which one was the prophet of God so horribly wrong about?
Muhammad left his men with instructions to take the battle against Christians, Persians, Jews and polytheists (which came to include millions of unfortunate Hindus). For the next four centuries, Muslim armies steamrolled over unsuspecting neighbors, plundering them of loot and slaves, and forcing the survivors to either convert or pay tribute at the point of a sword.
Companions of Muhammad lived to see Islam declare war on every major religion in the world in just the first few decades following his death - pressing the Jihad against Hindus, Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, and Buddhists.
By the time of the Crusades (when the Europeans began fighting back), Muslims had conquered two-thirds of the Christian world by sword, from Syria to Spain, and across North Africa. Millions of Christians were enslaved by Muslims, and tens of millions of Africans. The Arab slave-trading routes would stay open for 1300 years until pressure from Christian-based countries forced Islamic nations to declare the practice illegal (in theory). To this day, the Muslim world has never apologized for the victims of Jihad and slavery.
There is not another religion in the world that consistently produces terrorism in the name of God as does Islam. The most dangerous Muslims are nearly always those who interpret the Quran most transparently. They are the fundamentalists or purists of the faith, and believe in Muhammad’s mandate to spread Islamic rule by the sword, putting to death those who will not submit. In the absence of true infidels, they will even turn on each other.
The holy texts of Islam are saturated with verses of violence (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm) and hatred (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/Quran-Hate.htm) toward those outside the faith, as well as the aforementioned "hypocrites" (Muslims who don't act like Muslims). In sharp contrast to the Bible, which generally moves from relatively violent episodes to far more peaceful mandates, the Quran travels the exact opposite path (violence is first forbidden, then permitted, then mandatory). The handful of earlier verses that speak of tolerance are overwhelmed by an avalanche of later ones that carry a much different message. While Old Testament verses of blood and guts are generally bound by historical context within the text itself, Quranic imperatives to violence usually appear open-ended and subject to personal interpretation.
From the history of the faith to its most sacred writings, those who want to believe in "peaceful Islam" have a lot more to ignore than do the terrorists. By any objective measure, the "Religion of Peace" has been the harshest, bloodiest religion the world has ever known. In Islam there is no peace unless Muslims have power - and even then...
Further Reading:
The Life of Muhammad: An Inconvenient Truth (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/History.htm)
Muslim Terror from 9/11 through 2003 (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2001-2003.htm)
Muslim Terror in 2004 (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2004.htm)
Muslim Terror in 2005 (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2005.htm)
Muslim Terror in 2006 (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2006.htm)
Muslim Terror in 2007 (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2007.htm)
In the Name of Allah (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/In-The-Name-of-Allah.htm)

Islam is Tolerant of Other Religions
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The Myth:
Religious minorities have flourished under Islam. Muslims are commanded to protect Jews and Christians (the People of the Book) and do them no harm. The Quran says in Sura 109,"To you, your religion. To me, mine."
The Truth:
Religious minorities have not “flourished” under Islam. In fact, they have dwindled to mere shadows after centuries of persecution and discrimination. Some were converted from their native religion by brute force, others under the agonizing strain of dhimmitude.
What Muslims call “tolerance,” others correctly identify as institutionalized discrimination. The consignment of Jews and Christians to dhimmis under Islamic rule means that they are not allowed the same religious rights and freedoms as Muslims. They cannot share their faith, for example, or build houses of worship without permission. (See this link (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/17533) for rules imposed by the Islamic State)
Historically, dhimmis have often had to wear distinguishing clothing or cut their hair in a particular manner that indicates their position of inferiority and humiliation. They do not share the same legal rights as Muslims, and must even pay a poll tax (the jizya). They are to be killed or have their children taken from them if they cannot satisfy the tax collector’s requirements.
For hundreds of years, the Christian population in occupied Europe had their sons taken away and forcibly converted into Muslim warriors (known as Jannisaries) by the Ottoman Turks.
It is under this burden of discrimination and third-class status that so many religious minorities converted to Islam over the centuries. Those who didn’t often faced economic and social hardships that persist to this day and are appalling by Western standards of true religious tolerance and pluralism.
For those who are not “the People of the Book,” such as Hindus and atheists, there is very little tolerance to be found once Islam establishes political superiority. The Quran tells Muslims to “fight in the way of Allah” until “religion is only for Allah.” The conquered populations face death if they do not establish regular prayer and charity in the Islamic tradition (ie. the pillars of Islam).
Tamerlane and other Muslim warriors slaughtered tens of millions of Hindus and Buddhists, and displaced or forcibly converted millions more over the last thousand years. Islamists in Somalia behead (http://www.compassdirect.org/en/display.php?page=news&lang=en&length=long&idelement=5986)Christians. In Iran, they are jailed (http://www.bosnewslife.com/8217-concerns-over-detained-iranian-christians-amid-political-turmoil).
One of the great ironies of Islam is that non-Muslims are to be treated according to the very standards by which Muslims themselves would claim the right to violent self-defense were the shoe on the other foot. Islam is its own justification. Most Muslims therefore feel no need to explain the ingrained arrogance and double standard.
There are about 500 verses in the Quran that speak of Allah’s hatred for non-Muslims and the punishment that he has prepared for their unbelief. There is also a tiny handful that could be construed to say otherwise, but these are mostly earlier verses that many scholars consider to be abrogated by the later, more violent ones.
As for Sura 109, any true Quran scholar will point out that the purpose of the verse was to distinguish Islam from the gods of the Quraysh (one of which was named "Allah") rather than to advocate religious tolerance for non-Muslims. At the time that he narrated this very early verse, Muhammad did not have any power, and thus no choice but to be "tolerant" of others. By contrast, there was no true tolerance shown when he returned to Mecca with power many years later and demanded the eviction or death (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Muhammad/myths-mu-mecca-tolerance.htm) of anyone who would not convert to Islam. In fact, he physically destroyed the cherished idols of the people to whom he had previously addressed in Sura 109.
If tolerance simply means discouraging the mass slaughter of those of a different faith, then today's Islam generally meets this standard more often than not. But, if tolerance means allowing people of other faiths the same religious liberties that Muslims enjoy, then Islam is fundamentally the most intolerant religion under the sun.

Islam and the “Golden Age” of Scientific Discovery
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The Myth:
Muslims often claim that their religion fostered a rich heritage of scientific discovery, “paving the way” for modern advances in technology and medicine. On this topic, they usually refer to the period between the 7th and 13th centuries, when Europe was experiencing its “Dark Ages” and the Muslim world was acquiring new populations and culture through violent conquest.
The Truth:
Although there is no arguing that the Muslim world was relatively more advanced during this Middle Age period than the “Christian” world, the reasons for this have absolutely nothing to do with the Islamic religion (other than its mandate for military expansion). In fact, the religion tends to discourages knowledge outside of itself (Quran 5:101-102 (http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/005-qmt.php#005.101)), which is why the most prolific Muslim scholars are usually students of religion rather than science.
[Note that the country of Spain alone translates more learning material and literature into Spanish each year than the entire Arab world has translated into Arabic since the 9th century. As the Saudi Grand Mufti bluntly put it in 2010, "The Quran with its stories and knowledge are sufficient for us... we don't need the Torah, or Gospels, or any other book].
The many fundamentalists and other devotees who dress as Muhammad did and adopt 7th century lifestyles to some degree or another underscore the importance of tradition in Islam. The religion is highly conservative and resistant to change, which is viewed with suspicion. As scholar Bernard Lewis points out, in Islam an innovation is presumed to be bad unless it can be proven to be good.
Beyond this, there are four basic reasons why Islam has little true claim to scientific achievement:
First, the Muslim world benefited greatly from the Greek sciences, which were translated (http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/07/hyping_islam_s_role_in_the_his.html) for them by dhimmi Christians and Jews. To their credit, Muslims did a better job of preserving Greek text than did the Europeans of the time, and this became the foundation for their own knowledge. (One large reason for this, however, was that access by Christians to this part of their world was cut off by Muslim slave ships and coastal raids that dominated the Mediterranean during this period).
Secondly, many of the scientific advances credited to Islam were actually “borrowed” from other cultures conquered by the Muslims. The algebraic concept of “zero”, for example, is erroneously attributed to Islam when, in fact, it was a Hindu discovery that was merely introduced to the West by Muslims.
In truth, conquered populations contributed greatly to the history of “Muslim science” until gradually being decimated by conversion to Islam (under the pressures of dhimmitude). As Mark Steyn puts it,"When admirers talk up Islam and the great innovations and rich culture of its heyday, they forget that even at its height Muslims were never more than a minority in the Muslim world, and they were in large part living off the energy of others."
The Muslim concentration within a population is proportional to the decline of scientific achievement. It is no accident that the Muslim world has had little to show for itself in the last 800 years or so, since running out of new civilizations to cannibalize.
Third, even accomplished Muslim scientists and cultural icons were often considered heretics in their day, sometimes with good reason. One of the greatest achievers to come out of the Muslim world was the Persian scientist and philosopher, al-Razi. His impressive works are often held up today as “proof” of Muslim accomplishment. But what the apologists often leave out is that al-Razi was denounced as a blasphemer, since he followed his own religious beliefs – which were in obvious contradiction to traditional Islam.
Fourth, even the contributions that are attributed to Islam (often inaccurately) are not terribly dramatic. There is the 'invention' of certain words, such as alchemy and elixir (and assassin, by the way), but not much else that survives in modern technology which is of practical significance. Neither is there any reason to believe that such discoveries would not have easily been made by the West following the cultural awakening triggered by the Reformation.
As an example, consider that Muslims claim credit for coffee - in the sense that they popularized existing knowledge of Africans who were caught up in the Arab slave trade. However, it is also true that the red dye used in many food products, from cranberry juice to candy, comes from the abdomen of a particular female beetle found in South America. It is extremely unlikely that the West would not have stumbled across coffee by now.
In fact, the litany of “Muslim” achievement often takes the form of rhapsody, in which the true origins of these discoveries are omitted - along with their comparative significance to Western achievement. One often doesn't hear about the dismal fate of original accomplishments either. Those who brag about the great observatory of Taqi al-Din in [freshly conquered] Istanbul, for example, often neglect to mention that it was quickly destroyed by the caliphate.
At the end of the day, the record of scientific, medical and technological accomplishment is not something over which Muslim apologists want to get into a contest with the Christian world. Today’s Islamic innovators are primarily known for turning Western technology, such as cell phones and airplanes, into instruments of mass murder.
To sum up, although the Islamic religion is not entirely hostile to science, neither should it be confused as a facilitator. The great achievements that are said to have come out of the Islamic world were made either by non-Muslims who happened to be under Islamic rule, or by heretics who usually had little interest in Islam. Scientific discovery tapers off dramatically as Islam asserts dominance, until it eventually peters out altogether.

Islam is Opposed to Slavery
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The Myth:
Islam is intolerant of enslaving human beings. The religion eradicated the institution of slavery thanks to the principles set in motion by Muhammad, who was an abolitionist.
The Truth:
There is not the least bit of intolerance for slavery anywhere in the Quran. In fact, the “holy” book of Islam explicitly gives slave-owners the freedom to sexually exploit their slaves – not just in one place, but in at least four separate Suras. Islamic law is littered with rules concerning the treatment of slaves, some of which are relatively humane, but none that prohibit the actual practice by any stretch.
The very presence of these rules condones and legitimizes the institution of slavery. Adding to this is the fact that Muhammad was an avid slave trader. After providing ample evidence of his activities according to the most reliable Muslim biographers, the Center of the Study of Political Islam summarizes its findings as such:

Muhammad captured slaves, sold slaves, bought slaves as gifts of pleasure, received slaves as gifts, and used slaves for work. The Sira is exquisitely clear on the issue of slavery. (Muhammad and the Unbelievers: a Political Life (http://www.amazon.com/dp/097855289X?tag=thereligionof-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=097855289X&adid=0FEJCC7349ZNX0DFT3M1&))
Even the very pulpit from which Muhammad preached Islam was built by slave labor on his command!
The Quran tells Muslims to emulate the example of Muhammad, who has the most "exalted character". As such, the deeply dehumanizing horror of slavery has been a ubiquitous tradition of Islam for 14 centuries, including the modern plight of non-Muslim slaves in the Sudan, Mali, Niger, Mauritania, and other parts of the Muslim world.
There has never been an abolitionary movement within Islam (just as the religion produces no organized resistance to present-day enslavement). The abolition of slavery was imposed on the Islamic world by European countries, along with other political pressures that were entirely unrelated to Islamic law.
Although horrible abuses of slaves in the Muslim world were recorded, there has been little inclination toward the documentation and earnest contrition that one finds in the West. The absence of a guilty Muslim conscience often leads to the mistaken impression that slavery was not as bad under Islam - when it is actually indicative of the explicit tolerance the religion has for the practice
So narcissistic is the effect of Islam on the devoted, that to this day many Muslims believe in their hearts that the women and children carried off in battle, along with their surviving men folk, were actually done a favor by the Muslim warriors who plucked them from their fields and homes and relegated them to lives of demeaning servitude.
Shame and apology, no matter how appropriate, are almost never to be found in Dar al-Islam. Caliphs, the religious equivalent of popes, maintained harems of hundreds, sometimes thousands of young girls and women captured from lands as far away as Europe and consigned to sexual slavery. Hungarians were hunted like animals by the Turks, who carried 3 million into slavery over a 150 year period in the 1500-1600's. In India, 200,000 Hindus were captured and transported to Iranian slave markets in just a two year span (1619-1620) by one of the kinder Muslim rulers.
African slaves were often castrated by their Muslim masters. Few survived to reproduce, which is why there are not many people of African descent living in the Middle East, even though more slaves were taken out of Africa in the 1300 years of Arab slave trading than in the 300 years of European slavery. The 400,000 slaves brought to America, for example, have now become a community of 30 million, with a much higher standard of living than their African peers.
There is no William Wilberforce or Bartoleme de las Casas in Islamic history as there is in Christianity. When asked to produce the name of a Muslim abolitionist, apologists sometimes meekly suggest Muhammad himself. But, if a slave owner and trader, who commanded the capture and sexual exploitation of slaves, and left a 13-century legacy of divinely-sanctioned slavery, is the best that Islam can offer in the way of an abolitionist, then no amount of sophistry will be enough to convince any but the most ignorant.
Further Reading:
Slavery in Islam (TROP) (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/015-slavery.htm)
Slavery in Islam (Answering Islam site) (http://www.answering-islam.org/BehindVeil/btv5.html)

Islam is Incompatible with Terrorism
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The Myth:
Islam is completely incompatible with acts of terrorism. It is against Islam to kill innocent people.
The Truth:
Islam does prohibit killing innocent people. Unfortunately, you don't qualify.
Even though many Muslims earnestly believe that their religion prohibits the killing of innocent people by acts of terrorism, the truth is certainly more complicated. This is why Muslims on both sides of the terror debate accuse the other of hijacking Islam while insisting that they are the true believers. It is also why organizations that commit horrible atrocities in the name of Allah, such as Hamas and Hezbollah, receive a significant amount of moral and financial support from the mainstream.
In fact, the definition of "terrorism" in Islam is ambiguous at best. And the definition of an “innocent person” in Islam isn't something that Muslim apologists advertise when they say that such persons aren't to be harmed. The reason for this is that anyone who rejects Islam by refusing to convert is not considered to be innocent according to Islamic teaching.
Consider that a great deal of the Quran is devoted to describing the horrible punishment that awaits those who refuse to believe Muhammad. How then can Muslims say that the subjects of divine wrath are innocent people?
The most protected and respected of all non-Muslims are the dhimma, the “people of the book.” Specifically , these would be Jews and Christians who agree to Islamic rule and pay the jizya (tribute to Muslims). Yet, the word “dhimmi” is derived from an Arabic root that means “guilt” or "blame." ["...the dhimmi parent and sister words mean both 'to blame' as well as safeguards that can be extended to protect the blameworthy" Amitav Ghosh, "In an Antique Land"].
So, if even the dhimma have a measure of guilt attached to their status (by virtue of having rejected Allah’s full truth), how can non-Muslims who oppose Islamic rule or refuse to pay thejizya be considered “innocent?”
Even within the Islamic community there is a category of Muslims who are also said to bear guilt – greater, even, than the average non-believer. These are the hypocrites, or “Munafiqin,” whom Muhammad referred to in the most derogatory terms. A hypocrite is considered to be a Muslim in name only. They are distinguished from true Muslims, according to the 9th Sura, by an unwillingness to wage (v.81, 86) or fund (v.121) holy war. True believers fight and are harsh to unbelievers (v.123).
The Muslim terrorists who frequently kill "other Muslims" in the name of Allah do so believing that their victims are Munafiqin or kafir (unbelievers). This is a part of Sharia known as takfir, in which a Muslim can be declared an apostate and then executed for their role in hindering the expansion of Islamic authority. (A true Muslim would go to paradise anyway, in which case he or she could hardly be expected to nurse a grudge amidst the orgy of sex and wine).
In addition to the murky definition of innocence, there is also the problem of distinguishing terrorism from holy war. Islamic terrorists rarely refer to themselves as terrorists, but usually say that they are holy warriors (Mujahideen, Shahid, or Fedayeen). They consider their acts to be a form of Jihad.
Holy war is commanded in the Quran and Hadith. In Sura 9:29 (http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/009-qmt.php#009.029), Muhammad establishes the principle that unbelievers should be fought until they either convert to Islam or accept a state of humiliation under Islamic subjugation. This is confirmed in the Hadith by both Sahih Muslim (http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/muslim/019-smt.php#019.4294)and Bukhari (http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/bukhari/008-sbt.php#001.008.387).
In many places, the prophet of Islam says that Jihad is the ideal path (http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/muslim/020-smt.php#020.4645) for a Muslim, and that believers should “fight in the way of Allah.” There are dozens of open-ended passages in the Quran that exhort killing and fighting – far more than there are of peace and tolerance. It is somewhat naïve to think that their inclusion in this "eternal discourse between God and Man" was of historical value only and not intended to be relevant to present-day believers, particularly when there is little to nothing within the text to distinguish them in such fashion.
Combine the Quran's exhortation to holy war with the ambiguity of innocence and a monumental problem develops that cannot be patched over by mere semantics. Not only is there a deep tolerance for violence in Islam, but also a sharp disagreement and lack of clarity over the conditions that justify this violence - and just whom the targets may be.
Even many of those Muslims who claim to be against terrorism still support the “insurgency” in Iraq, for example, and often entertain the allegation that there is a broader “war against Islam.” Although American troops in Iraq were trying to protect innocent life and help the country rebuild, Muslims around the world and in the West believe that it was legitimate for true believers to try and kill them.
Enjoying the sanction of holy war, the Mujahid thus reasoned that it is permissible to attack fellow Iraqis – the ones helping the Americans - even if they are part of a democratically-elected Iraqi government. These non-combatants and combatants alike are believed to be the “Munafiqin” or "Takfir" assisting the enemy “Crusaders.”
Although we use Iraq as an example here, this is the same rationale that is ultimately behind all Islamic terror, from the Philippines to Thailand. Wherever the Muslim religion is a minority, there are always radicals who believe that violence is justified in bringing Islam to dominance - just as Muhammad taught and set by example in Mecca and other places, such as the land of al-Harith.
And what of the so-called “innocents” who suffer from the bombings and shootings? Even in Muhammad’s time they were unavoidable. The much-touted hadith in which Muhammad forbade the killing of women, for example, also indicates that there were such casualties in his attacks on other tribes.
If there is any doubt that he believed that the forbidden is sometimes necessary, it should be put to rest by an incident in which Muhammad's men warned him that a planned night raid against an enemy camp would mean that women and children would be killed. He merely replied “they are of them,” meaning the men.
This is the slippery slope opened by the sanction of holy war. What starts out as the perception of a noble cause of self-defense against a supposed threat gradually devolves into a "let Allah sort them out" campaign through a series of logical steps that are ultimately justified by the sublime goal of Islamic rule.
Islam is not intended to co-exist as an equal with other religions. It is to be the dominant religion with Sharia as the supreme law. Islamic rule is to be extended to the ends of the earth and resistance is to be dealt with by any means necessary.
Apologists in the West often shrug off the Quran's many verses of violence by saying that they are relevant only in a “time of war.”
To this, Islamic terrorists would agree. They are at war.

Islam Means 'Peace' (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#islammeanspeace)
Islam respects Women as Equals (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#women)
Jihad Means 'Inner Struggle' (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#jihad)
Islam is a Religion of Peace (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#peace)
Islam is Tolerant of Other Religions (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#tolerance)
Islam Facilitated a 'Golden Age' of Scientific Discovery (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#science)
Islam is Opposed to Slavery (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#slavery)
Islam is Incompatible with Terrorism (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#terrorism)
Islam is a Democracy (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#democracy)
The Quran is the Muslim Counterpart to the Bible (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#quran)

Islam Means ‘Peace’
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The Myth:
Muslim apologists sometimes claim that the root word of Islam is “al-Salaam,” which is “peace” in Arabic.
The Truth:
An Arabic word has only one root. The root word for Islam is “al-Silm,” which means “submission” or “surrender.” There is no disagreement about this among Arabic or Islamic scholars. al-Silm (submission) does not mean the same thing as al-Salaam (peace), otherwise they would be the same word.
Submission and peace can be very different concepts, even if a form of peace is often brought about by forcing others into submission. As the modern-day Islamic scholar, Ibrahim Sulaiman, puts it, "Jihad is not inhumane, despite its necessary violence and bloodshed, its ultimate desire is peace which is protected and enhanced by the rule of law."
In truth, the <nobr>Quran (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#)</nobr> not only calls Muslims to submit to Allah, it also orders them to subdue (http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/009-qmt.php#009.029)people of other religions until they are in a full state of submission to Islamic rule. This has inspired the aggressive history of Islam and its military and demographic success in conquering other cultures.

Islam Respects Women as Equals
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The Myth:
The Quran places men and women on equal foundation before Allah. Each person is judged according to his or her own deeds. Women have equal rights under Islamic law.
The Truth:
Merely stating that individuals will be judged as such by Allah does not mean that they have equal rights and roles, or that they are judged by the same standards.
There is no ambiguity in the Quran, the life of Muhammad, or Islamic law as to the inferiority of women to men despite the efforts of modern-day apologists to salvage Western-style feminism from scraps and fragments of verses that have historically held no such progressive interpretation.
After military conquests, Muhammad would dole out captured women as war prizes (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Muhammad/myths-mu-rape.htm) to his men. In at least one case, he advocated that they be raped in front of their husbands. Captured women were made into sex slaves by the very men who killed their husbands and brothers. There are four Quranic verses in which "Allah" makes clear that a Muslim master has full sexual access to his female slaves, yet there is not one that prohibits rape.
The Quran gives Muslim men permission to beat their wives for disobedience, but nowhere does it command love in marriage (although it is said to exist). The verses plainly say that husbands are “a degree above” wives. The Hadith says that women are intellectually inferior, and that they comprise the majority of Hell’s <nobr>occupants (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#)</nobr>.
Under Islamic law, a man may divorce his wife at his choosing. If he does this twice, then wishes to remarry her, she must first have sex with another man. Men are exempt from such degradations.
Muslim women are not free to marry whom they please, as are Muslim men. Their husband may also bring other wives (and slaves) into the marriage bed. And she must be sexually available to him at any time (as a field ready to be “tilled,” according to the holy book of Islam).
Muslim women do not inherit property in equal portion to males. This is somewhat ironic given that Islam owes its existence to the wealth of Muhammad's first wife, which would not otherwise have been inherited by her given that she had two brothers and her first husband had three sons.
A woman's testimony in court is considered to be worth only half that of a man’s, according to the Quran. Unlike a man, she must also cover her head - and often her face.
If a woman wants to prove that she was raped, then there must be four male witnesses to corroborate her account (according to strict Sharia). Otherwise she can be jailed or stoned to death for confessing to “adultery.”
Given all of this, it is quite a stretch to say that men and women have “equality under Islam” based on obscure theological analogies or comparisons. This is an entirely new ploy that is designed for modern tastes and disagrees sharply with the reality of Islamic law and history.
Further Reading from the Quran:
Veils (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/007-veils.htm)
Women Worth Less than Men (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/010-women-worth-less.htm)
Proving Rape under Islamic Law (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/002-rape_adultery.htm)
Wife-Beating (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/003-wife-beating.htm)
Divorce - A Man's Prerogative (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/005-triple-talaq.htm)
Remarriage (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/006-divorce-woman-remarry.htm)
Men in Charge of Women (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/022-man-in-charge-of-woman.htm)
Polygamy (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/017-polygamy.htm)

Jihad Means 'Inner Struggle'
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The Myth:
Islam’s Western apologists sometimes claim that since the Arabic word, Jihad, literally means “fight” or “struggle,” it refers to an “inner struggle” rather than holy war.
The Truth:
In Arabic, "jihad" means struggle. In Islam, it means holy war.
The Quran specifically exempts the disabled and elderly from Jihad (4:95), which would make no sense if the word is being used merely within the context of spiritual struggle. It is also unclear why Muhammad and his Quran would use <nobr>graphic language (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#)</nobr>, such as<nobr>smiting (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#)</nobr> fingers and heads from the hands and necks of unbelievers if he were speaking merely of character development.
With this in mind, Muslim apologists generally admit that there are two meanings to the word, but insist that “inner struggle” is the “greater Jihad,” whereas “holy war” is the “lesser.” In fact, this misconception is based only on an a single hadith that Islamic scholars generally agreed was fabricated (http://forums.islamicawakening.com/f44/hadith-authentication-greater-and-lesser-jihad-14200/).
By contrast, the most reliable of all Hadith collections is that of Bukhari. Jihad is mentioned over 200 times in reference to the words of Muhammad and each one carries a clear connotation to holy war, with only a handful of possible exceptions (dealing with a woman's supporting role during a time of holy war).
Further Reading:
The Greater-Lesser Jihad Myth (from a Muslim Source) (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Articles/Greater-Lesser-Jihad.htm)

Islam is a Religion of Peace
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The Myth:
Muhammad was a peaceful man who taught his followers to be the same. Muslims lived peacefully for centuries, fighting only in self-defense, and only when it was necessary. True Muslims would never act aggressively.
The Truth:
There shouldn't be any argument over who the "true Muslim" is because the Quran clearly distinguishes the true Muslim from the pretender in Sura 9 (http://www.dar-us-salam.com/TheNobleQuran/surah9.html) and elsewhere. According to this - one of the last chapters of the Quran - the true believer "strives and fights with their wealth and persons" while the hypocrites are those who "sit at home," refusing to join the jihad against unbelievers in foreign lands.
In truth, Muhammad organized 65 military campaigns in the last ten years of his life and personally led 27 of them. The more power that he attained, the smaller the excuse needed to go to battle, until finally he <nobr>began attacking (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm#)</nobr> tribes merely because they were not yet part of his growing empire.
After Muhammad’s death, his successor immediately went to war with former allied tribes which wanted to go their own way. Abu Bakr called them 'apostates' and slaughtered anyone who did not want to remain Muslim. Eventually, he was successful in holding the empire together through blood and violence.
The prophet of Islam's most faithful followers and even his own family soon turned on each other as well. There were four caliphs (leaders) in the first twenty-five years, each of which was a trusted companion of his. Three of these four were murdered. The third caliph was murdered by those allied with the son of the first caliph. The fourth caliph was murdered in the midst of a conflict with the fifth caliph, who began a 100-year dynasty of excess and debauchery that was brought to an end in a gruesome, widespread bloodbath by descendents of Muhammad’s uncle (who was not even a Muslim).
Muhammad’s own daughter, Fatima, and his son-in-law, Ali, who both survived the pagan hardship during the Meccan years safe and sound, did not survive Islam after the death of Muhammad. Fatima died of stress from persecution within three months, and Ali was later assassinated by Muslim rivals. Their son (Muhammad’s grandson) was killed in battle with the faction that became today’s Sunnis. His people became Shias. The relatives and personal friends of Muhammad were mixed into both warring groups, which then fractured further into hostile sub-divisions as Islam expanded.
Muslim apologists, who like to say that is impossible for today's terrorists to be Muslim when they kill fellow Muslims, would have a very tough time explaining the war between Fatima's followers and Aisha to a knowledgeable audience. Muhammad explicitly held up both his favorite daughter and his favorite wife as model Muslim women, yet they were invoked respectively by each side in the violent civil war that followed his death. Which one was the prophet of God so horribly wrong about?
Muhammad left his men with instructions to take the battle against Christians, Persians, Jews and polytheists (which came to include millions of unfortunate Hindus). For the next four centuries, Muslim armies steamrolled over unsuspecting neighbors, plundering them of loot and slaves, and forcing the survivors to either convert or pay tribute at the point of a sword.
Companions of Muhammad lived to see Islam declare war on every major religion in the world in just the first few decades following his death - pressing the Jihad against Hindus, Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, and Buddhists.
By the time of the Crusades (when the Europeans began fighting back), Muslims had conquered two-thirds of the Christian world by sword, from Syria to Spain, and across North Africa. Millions of Christians were enslaved by Muslims, and tens of millions of Africans. The Arab slave-trading routes would stay open for 1300 years until pressure from Christian-based countries forced Islamic nations to declare the practice illegal (in theory). To this day, the Muslim world has never apologized for the victims of Jihad and slavery.
There is not another religion in the world that consistently produces terrorism in the name of God as does Islam. The most dangerous Muslims are nearly always those who interpret the Quran most transparently. They are the fundamentalists or purists of the faith, and believe in Muhammad’s mandate to spread Islamic rule by the sword, putting to death those who will not submit. In the absence of true infidels, they will even turn on each other.
The holy texts of Islam are saturated with verses of violence (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/023-violence.htm) and hatred (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/Quran-Hate.htm) toward those outside the faith, as well as the aforementioned "hypocrites" (Muslims who don't act like Muslims). In sharp contrast to the Bible, which generally moves from relatively violent episodes to far more peaceful mandates, the Quran travels the exact opposite path (violence is first forbidden, then permitted, then mandatory). The handful of earlier verses that speak of tolerance are overwhelmed by an avalanche of later ones that carry a much different message. While Old Testament verses of blood and guts are generally bound by historical context within the text itself, Quranic imperatives to violence usually appear open-ended and subject to personal interpretation.
From the history of the faith to its most sacred writings, those who want to believe in "peaceful Islam" have a lot more to ignore than do the terrorists. By any objective measure, the "Religion of Peace" has been the harshest, bloodiest religion the world has ever known. In Islam there is no peace unless Muslims have power - and even then...
Further Reading:
The Life of Muhammad: An Inconvenient Truth (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/History.htm)
Muslim Terror from 9/11 through 2003 (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2001-2003.htm)
Muslim Terror in 2004 (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2004.htm)
Muslim Terror in 2005 (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2005.htm)
Muslim Terror in 2006 (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2006.htm)
Muslim Terror in 2007 (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2007.htm)
In the Name of Allah (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/In-The-Name-of-Allah.htm)

Islam is Tolerant of Other Religions
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The Myth:
Religious minorities have flourished under Islam. Muslims are commanded to protect Jews and Christians (the People of the Book) and do them no harm. The Quran says in Sura 109,"To you, your religion. To me, mine."
The Truth:
Religious minorities have not “flourished” under Islam. In fact, they have dwindled to mere shadows after centuries of persecution and discrimination. Some were converted from their native religion by brute force, others under the agonizing strain of dhimmitude.
What Muslims call “tolerance,” others correctly identify as institutionalized discrimination. The consignment of Jews and Christians to dhimmis under Islamic rule means that they are not allowed the same religious rights and freedoms as Muslims. They cannot share their faith, for example, or build houses of worship without permission. (See this link (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/17533) for rules imposed by the Islamic State)
Historically, dhimmis have often had to wear distinguishing clothing or cut their hair in a particular manner that indicates their position of inferiority and humiliation. They do not share the same legal rights as Muslims, and must even pay a poll tax (the jizya). They are to be killed or have their children taken from them if they cannot satisfy the tax collector’s requirements.
For hundreds of years, the Christian population in occupied Europe had their sons taken away and forcibly converted into Muslim warriors (known as Jannisaries) by the Ottoman Turks.
It is under this burden of discrimination and third-class status that so many religious minorities converted to Islam over the centuries. Those who didn’t often faced economic and social hardships that persist to this day and are appalling by Western standards of true religious tolerance and pluralism.
For those who are not “the People of the Book,” such as Hindus and atheists, there is very little tolerance to be found once Islam establishes political superiority. The Quran tells Muslims to “fight in the way of Allah” until “religion is only for Allah.” The conquered populations face death if they do not establish regular prayer and charity in the Islamic tradition (ie. the pillars of Islam).
Tamerlane and other Muslim warriors slaughtered tens of millions of Hindus and Buddhists, and displaced or forcibly converted millions more over the last thousand years. Islamists in Somalia behead (http://www.compassdirect.org/en/display.php?page=news&lang=en&length=long&idelement=5986)Christians. In Iran, they are jailed (http://www.bosnewslife.com/8217-concerns-over-detained-iranian-christians-amid-political-turmoil).
One of the great ironies of Islam is that non-Muslims are to be treated according to the very standards by which Muslims themselves would claim the right to violent self-defense were the shoe on the other foot. Islam is its own justification. Most Muslims therefore feel no need to explain the ingrained arrogance and double standard.
There are about 500 verses in the Quran that speak of Allah’s hatred for non-Muslims and the punishment that he has prepared for their unbelief. There is also a tiny handful that could be construed to say otherwise, but these are mostly earlier verses that many scholars consider to be abrogated by the later, more violent ones.
As for Sura 109, any true Quran scholar will point out that the purpose of the verse was to distinguish Islam from the gods of the Quraysh (one of which was named "Allah") rather than to advocate religious tolerance for non-Muslims. At the time that he narrated this very early verse, Muhammad did not have any power, and thus no choice but to be "tolerant" of others. By contrast, there was no true tolerance shown when he returned to Mecca with power many years later and demanded the eviction or death (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Muhammad/myths-mu-mecca-tolerance.htm) of anyone who would not convert to Islam. In fact, he physically destroyed the cherished idols of the people to whom he had previously addressed in Sura 109.
If tolerance simply means discouraging the mass slaughter of those of a different faith, then today's Islam generally meets this standard more often than not. But, if tolerance means allowing people of other faiths the same religious liberties that Muslims enjoy, then Islam is fundamentally the most intolerant religion under the sun.

Islam and the “Golden Age” of Scientific Discovery
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The Myth:
Muslims often claim that their religion fostered a rich heritage of scientific discovery, “paving the way” for modern advances in technology and medicine. On this topic, they usually refer to the period between the 7th and 13th centuries, when Europe was experiencing its “Dark Ages” and the Muslim world was acquiring new populations and culture through violent conquest.
The Truth:
Although there is no arguing that the Muslim world was relatively more advanced during this Middle Age period than the “Christian” world, the reasons for this have absolutely nothing to do with the Islamic religion (other than its mandate for military expansion). In fact, the religion tends to discourages knowledge outside of itself (Quran 5:101-102 (http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/005-qmt.php#005.101)), which is why the most prolific Muslim scholars are usually students of religion rather than science.
[Note that the country of Spain alone translates more learning material and literature into Spanish each year than the entire Arab world has translated into Arabic since the 9th century. As the Saudi Grand Mufti bluntly put it in 2010, "The Quran with its stories and knowledge are sufficient for us... we don't need the Torah, or Gospels, or any other book].
The many fundamentalists and other devotees who dress as Muhammad did and adopt 7th century lifestyles to some degree or another underscore the importance of tradition in Islam. The religion is highly conservative and resistant to change, which is viewed with suspicion. As scholar Bernard Lewis points out, in Islam an innovation is presumed to be bad unless it can be proven to be good.
Beyond this, there are four basic reasons why Islam has little true claim to scientific achievement:
First, the Muslim world benefited greatly from the Greek sciences, which were translated (http://www.americanthinker.com/2005/07/hyping_islam_s_role_in_the_his.html) for them by dhimmi Christians and Jews. To their credit, Muslims did a better job of preserving Greek text than did the Europeans of the time, and this became the foundation for their own knowledge. (One large reason for this, however, was that access by Christians to this part of their world was cut off by Muslim slave ships and coastal raids that dominated the Mediterranean during this period).
Secondly, many of the scientific advances credited to Islam were actually “borrowed” from other cultures conquered by the Muslims. The algebraic concept of “zero”, for example, is erroneously attributed to Islam when, in fact, it was a Hindu discovery that was merely introduced to the West by Muslims.
In truth, conquered populations contributed greatly to the history of “Muslim science” until gradually being decimated by conversion to Islam (under the pressures of dhimmitude). As Mark Steyn puts it,"When admirers talk up Islam and the great innovations and rich culture of its heyday, they forget that even at its height Muslims were never more than a minority in the Muslim world, and they were in large part living off the energy of others."
The Muslim concentration within a population is proportional to the decline of scientific achievement. It is no accident that the Muslim world has had little to show for itself in the last 800 years or so, since running out of new civilizations to cannibalize.
Third, even accomplished Muslim scientists and cultural icons were often considered heretics in their day, sometimes with good reason. One of the greatest achievers to come out of the Muslim world was the Persian scientist and philosopher, al-Razi. His impressive works are often held up today as “proof” of Muslim accomplishment. But what the apologists often leave out is that al-Razi was denounced as a blasphemer, since he followed his own religious beliefs – which were in obvious contradiction to traditional Islam.
Fourth, even the contributions that are attributed to Islam (often inaccurately) are not terribly dramatic. There is the 'invention' of certain words, such as alchemy and elixir (and assassin, by the way), but not much else that survives in modern technology which is of practical significance. Neither is there any reason to believe that such discoveries would not have easily been made by the West following the cultural awakening triggered by the Reformation.
As an example, consider that Muslims claim credit for coffee - in the sense that they popularized existing knowledge of Africans who were caught up in the Arab slave trade. However, it is also true that the red dye used in many food products, from cranberry juice to candy, comes from the abdomen of a particular female beetle found in South America. It is extremely unlikely that the West would not have stumbled across coffee by now.
In fact, the litany of “Muslim” achievement often takes the form of rhapsody, in which the true origins of these discoveries are omitted - along with their comparative significance to Western achievement. One often doesn't hear about the dismal fate of original accomplishments either. Those who brag about the great observatory of Taqi al-Din in [freshly conquered] Istanbul, for example, often neglect to mention that it was quickly destroyed by the caliphate.
At the end of the day, the record of scientific, medical and technological accomplishment is not something over which Muslim apologists want to get into a contest with the Christian world. Today’s Islamic innovators are primarily known for turning Western technology, such as cell phones and airplanes, into instruments of mass murder.
To sum up, although the Islamic religion is not entirely hostile to science, neither should it be confused as a facilitator. The great achievements that are said to have come out of the Islamic world were made either by non-Muslims who happened to be under Islamic rule, or by heretics who usually had little interest in Islam. Scientific discovery tapers off dramatically as Islam asserts dominance, until it eventually peters out altogether.

Islam is Opposed to Slavery
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The Myth:
Islam is intolerant of enslaving human beings. The religion eradicated the institution of slavery thanks to the principles set in motion by Muhammad, who was an abolitionist.
The Truth:
There is not the least bit of intolerance for slavery anywhere in the Quran. In fact, the “holy” book of Islam explicitly gives slave-owners the freedom to sexually exploit their slaves – not just in one place, but in at least four separate Suras. Islamic law is littered with rules concerning the treatment of slaves, some of which are relatively humane, but none that prohibit the actual practice by any stretch.
The very presence of these rules condones and legitimizes the institution of slavery. Adding to this is the fact that Muhammad was an avid slave trader. After providing ample evidence of his activities according to the most reliable Muslim biographers, the Center of the Study of Political Islam summarizes its findings as such:

Muhammad captured slaves, sold slaves, bought slaves as gifts of pleasure, received slaves as gifts, and used slaves for work. The Sira is exquisitely clear on the issue of slavery. (Muhammad and the Unbelievers: a Political Life (http://www.amazon.com/dp/097855289X?tag=thereligionof-20&camp=14573&creative=327641&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=097855289X&adid=0FEJCC7349ZNX0DFT3M1&))
Even the very pulpit from which Muhammad preached Islam was built by slave labor on his command!
The Quran tells Muslims to emulate the example of Muhammad, who has the most "exalted character". As such, the deeply dehumanizing horror of slavery has been a ubiquitous tradition of Islam for 14 centuries, including the modern plight of non-Muslim slaves in the Sudan, Mali, Niger, Mauritania, and other parts of the Muslim world.
There has never been an abolitionary movement within Islam (just as the religion produces no organized resistance to present-day enslavement). The abolition of slavery was imposed on the Islamic world by European countries, along with other political pressures that were entirely unrelated to Islamic law.
Although horrible abuses of slaves in the Muslim world were recorded, there has been little inclination toward the documentation and earnest contrition that one finds in the West. The absence of a guilty Muslim conscience often leads to the mistaken impression that slavery was not as bad under Islam - when it is actually indicative of the explicit tolerance the religion has for the practice
So narcissistic is the effect of Islam on the devoted, that to this day many Muslims believe in their hearts that the women and children carried off in battle, along with their surviving men folk, were actually done a favor by the Muslim warriors who plucked them from their fields and homes and relegated them to lives of demeaning servitude.
Shame and apology, no matter how appropriate, are almost never to be found in Dar al-Islam. Caliphs, the religious equivalent of popes, maintained harems of hundreds, sometimes thousands of young girls and women captured from lands as far away as Europe and consigned to sexual slavery. Hungarians were hunted like animals by the Turks, who carried 3 million into slavery over a 150 year period in the 1500-1600's. In India, 200,000 Hindus were captured and transported to Iranian slave markets in just a two year span (1619-1620) by one of the kinder Muslim rulers.
African slaves were often castrated by their Muslim masters. Few survived to reproduce, which is why there are not many people of African descent living in the Middle East, even though more slaves were taken out of Africa in the 1300 years of Arab slave trading than in the 300 years of European slavery. The 400,000 slaves brought to America, for example, have now become a community of 30 million, with a much higher standard of living than their African peers.
There is no William Wilberforce or Bartoleme de las Casas in Islamic history as there is in Christianity. When asked to produce the name of a Muslim abolitionist, apologists sometimes meekly suggest Muhammad himself. But, if a slave owner and trader, who commanded the capture and sexual exploitation of slaves, and left a 13-century legacy of divinely-sanctioned slavery, is the best that Islam can offer in the way of an abolitionist, then no amount of sophistry will be enough to convince any but the most ignorant.
Further Reading:
Slavery in Islam (TROP) (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/015-slavery.htm)
Slavery in Islam (Answering Islam site) (http://www.answering-islam.org/BehindVeil/btv5.html)

Islam is Incompatible with Terrorism
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The Myth:
Islam is completely incompatible with acts of terrorism. It is against Islam to kill innocent people.
The Truth:
Islam does prohibit killing innocent people. Unfortunately, you don't qualify.
Even though many Muslims earnestly believe that their religion prohibits the killing of innocent people by acts of terrorism, the truth is certainly more complicated. This is why Muslims on both sides of the terror debate accuse the other of hijacking Islam while insisting that they are the true believers. It is also why organizations that commit horrible atrocities in the name of Allah, such as Hamas and Hezbollah, receive a significant amount of moral and financial support from the mainstream.
In fact, the definition of "terrorism" in Islam is ambiguous at best. And the definition of an “innocent person” in Islam isn't something that Muslim apologists advertise when they say that such persons aren't to be harmed. The reason for this is that anyone who rejects Islam by refusing to convert is not considered to be innocent according to Islamic teaching.
Consider that a great deal of the Quran is devoted to describing the horrible punishment that awaits those who refuse to believe Muhammad. How then can Muslims say that the subjects of divine wrath are innocent people?
The most protected and respected of all non-Muslims are the dhimma, the “people of the book.” Specifically , these would be Jews and Christians who agree to Islamic rule and pay the jizya (tribute to Muslims). Yet, the word “dhimmi” is derived from an Arabic root that means “guilt” or "blame." ["...the dhimmi parent and sister words mean both 'to blame' as well as safeguards that can be extended to protect the blameworthy" Amitav Ghosh, "In an Antique Land"].
So, if even the dhimma have a measure of guilt attached to their status (by virtue of having rejected Allah’s full truth), how can non-Muslims who oppose Islamic rule or refuse to pay thejizya be considered “innocent?”
Even within the Islamic community there is a category of Muslims who are also said to bear guilt – greater, even, than the average non-believer. These are the hypocrites, or “Munafiqin,” whom Muhammad referred to in the most derogatory terms. A hypocrite is considered to be a Muslim in name only. They are distinguished from true Muslims, according to the 9th Sura, by an unwillingness to wage (v.81, 86) or fund (v.121) holy war. True believers fight and are harsh to unbelievers (v.123).
The Muslim terrorists who frequently kill "other Muslims" in the name of Allah do so believing that their victims are Munafiqin or kafir (unbelievers). This is a part of Sharia known as takfir, in which a Muslim can be declared an apostate and then executed for their role in hindering the expansion of Islamic authority. (A true Muslim would go to paradise anyway, in which case he or she could hardly be expected to nurse a grudge amidst the orgy of sex and wine).
In addition to the murky definition of innocence, there is also the problem of distinguishing terrorism from holy war. Islamic terrorists rarely refer to themselves as terrorists, but usually say that they are holy warriors (Mujahideen, Shahid, or Fedayeen). They consider their acts to be a form of Jihad.
Holy war is commanded in the Quran and Hadith. In Sura 9:29 (http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/009-qmt.php#009.029), Muhammad establishes the principle that unbelievers should be fought until they either convert to Islam or accept a state of humiliation under Islamic subjugation. This is confirmed in the Hadith by both Sahih Muslim (http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/muslim/019-smt.php#019.4294)and Bukhari (http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/bukhari/008-sbt.php#001.008.387).
In many places, the prophet of Islam says that Jihad is the ideal path (http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/muslim/020-smt.php#020.4645) for a Muslim, and that believers should “fight in the way of Allah.” There are dozens of open-ended passages in the Quran that exhort killing and fighting – far more than there are of peace and tolerance. It is somewhat naïve to think that their inclusion in this "eternal discourse between God and Man" was of historical value only and not intended to be relevant to present-day believers, particularly when there is little to nothing within the text to distinguish them in such fashion.
Combine the Quran's exhortation to holy war with the ambiguity of innocence and a monumental problem develops that cannot be patched over by mere semantics. Not only is there a deep tolerance for violence in Islam, but also a sharp disagreement and lack of clarity over the conditions that justify this violence - and just whom the targets may be.
Even many of those Muslims who claim to be against terrorism still support the “insurgency” in Iraq, for example, and often entertain the allegation that there is a broader “war against Islam.” Although American troops in Iraq were trying to protect innocent life and help the country rebuild, Muslims around the world and in the West believe that it was legitimate for true believers to try and kill them.
Enjoying the sanction of holy war, the Mujahid thus reasoned that it is permissible to attack fellow Iraqis – the ones helping the Americans - even if they are part of a democratically-elected Iraqi government. These non-combatants and combatants alike are believed to be the “Munafiqin” or "Takfir" assisting the enemy “Crusaders.”
Although we use Iraq as an example here, this is the same rationale that is ultimately behind all Islamic terror, from the Philippines to Thailand. Wherever the Muslim religion is a minority, there are always radicals who believe that violence is justified in bringing Islam to dominance - just as Muhammad taught and set by example in Mecca and other places, such as the land of al-Harith.
And what of the so-called “innocents” who suffer from the bombings and shootings? Even in Muhammad’s time they were unavoidable. The much-touted hadith in which Muhammad forbade the killing of women, for example, also indicates that there were such casualties in his attacks on other tribes.
If there is any doubt that he believed that the forbidden is sometimes necessary, it should be put to rest by an incident in which Muhammad's men warned him that a planned night raid against an enemy camp would mean that women and children would be killed. He merely replied “they are of them,” meaning the men.
This is the slippery slope opened by the sanction of holy war. What starts out as the perception of a noble cause of self-defense against a supposed threat gradually devolves into a "let Allah sort them out" campaign through a series of logical steps that are ultimately justified by the sublime goal of Islamic rule.
Islam is not intended to co-exist as an equal with other religions. It is to be the dominant religion with Sharia as the supreme law. Islamic rule is to be extended to the ends of the earth and resistance is to be dealt with by any means necessary.
Apologists in the West often shrug off the Quran's many verses of violence by saying that they are relevant only in a “time of war.”


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