"Gun" control.

[Elessar]

More on Obama's Gun control:

http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/obama-gun-control-orders-american/2016/01/05/id/708206/?ns_mail_uid=28698617&ns_mail_job=1648461_01052016&s=al&dkt_nbr=r9vfjljh

[Black Diamond]

This explains why the Left is unimpressed.

[Black Diamond]

When does this order take effect?

[Bilgerat]

This "smart gun" technology. Obama said that it would prevent a young child from squeezing a trigger.

Here's a thought, wouldn't a weapon properly secured also do that free from Govt. expense?

It's not about "gun control"

It's about control, period.

[Perianne]

Obama puts me in the mood.... to buy another gun. :)

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

This "smart gun" technology. Obama said that it would prevent a young child from squeezing a trigger.

Here's a thought, wouldn't a weapon properly secured also do that free from Govt. expense?

It's not about "gun control"

It's about control, period.

Climate scam they run-- is all about control.
Gun control crap they run-- is all about control.
But think of the children crap they run-- is all about control.
We must save the world crap they run-- is all about control.

They are by definition and reality damn control freaks== true Nazi's... FACT
AND IF POSSIBLE , THEY'D KILL YOU AND ME TO PROVE IT, I AM NOT JOKING AT ALL....
They have that part in their future plan too...--TYR

[Bilgerat]

Obama puts me in the mood.... to buy another gun. :)




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[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

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Amazing is it not, the obama wants to take our guns/weapons from us ,but just gave a "gun" biggest weapon(Nukes) ever to Iran, his muslim brothers!
And this nation praised him for it..
We had best look to see who actually pulls his strings!
Sadly,I already know....--Tyr

[Drummond]

This is getting coverage in the UK, though it's from a standpoint of 'progress being made'. British viewpoints on this centre around being anti-gun, not understanding why Americans want to own guns, etc ....

In the UK, James O'Brien (rabid Leftie type) devoted an hour of his phone-in programme on LBC to this. Saying at one point that the American preoccupation with gun ownership was its own 'death cult'. That hour was a mixture of O'Brien saying he didn't understand the American interest in owning them, and wanted the psychology of it explained to him ... BUT ... all this from the starting-point that it was all 'WRONG' in big capital letters, and was a 'problem', not least of attitude, needing to be corrected.

I hope I've made my own views clear on this .. I see it the American way, namely, gun ownership as a basic right of self-protection deserving all support. Brits will never agree, though, and most don't understand American thinking on this.

In American eyes, what Obama's doing may be seen as a weak point in his Presidency .. I certainly hope so !! Here ... it earns him credit !! Obama's seen as a civilising force, one deserving to succeed. It's a form of countering-weight situation, where his gun control drive weighs as much IN his favour here, as it may weigh AGAINST him in America.

It's annoying in the extreme. I'd hope to see Obama's form of Government driven out of power in disgrace, finally incontrovertibly discredited. Here, some of what would disgrace him, would see him lauded as a hero !! Mark my words ... once Obama vacates the Presidency, the British will think well of him .. short of some sort of Clinton-esque scandal coming to light, that is ... as a heroic figure.

A 'Guardian' report (Gabby will be pleased .. she likes this squalid Leftie rag ...) ..

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jan/05/obama-gun-control-executive-action-background-checks-licenses-gun-shows-mental-health-funding


A tear-stained Barack Obama marked his final year in office with a last-ditch call for US gun control on Tuesday as he outlined new rules that will close important background check loopholes but leave much of the political heavy lifting to his successor.

In a much-anticipated speech that focused more on what still needed to be done than the limited set of executive actions announced in advance by the White House, the president painted gun reform as the last great civil rights challenge of his generation.

“In Dr King’s words, we need to feel the fierce urgency of now, because people are dying,” a visibly emotional Obama told an audience of mass shooting victims and relatives in the East Room.

“Our inalienable right to life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness, those rights were stripped from college kids in Blacksburg and Santa Barbara and from high schoolers at Columbine, and from first-graders in Newtown,” he added, his voice shaking. “First-graders. And from every family who never imagined that their loved one would be taken from our lives by a bullet from a gun.”

The president had been introduced by Mark Barden, the father of Daniel, one of the 20 young children killed at Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown three years ago. As his speech rose to its climax, with tears rolling down his cheeks, Obama said: “Every time I think about those kids, it gets me mad and, by the way, it happens on the streets of Chicago every day.”

... etc .....

Just in this piece, two references to Obama's 'tears'. Also they happily hint at reporting this as akin to a Martin Luther King moment.

I believe Obama, rank narcissist that he is, wants to go down in history as a second version of King. And he's doing it on the back of efforts to exercise anti-freedom controls.

[Perianne]

I ran across the British anti-gun mentality firsthand on that forum that closed. I don't understand the British inclination to find Americans as in favor of a death cult. Guns, for the 99%, are the exact opposite. I would not sleep well at night if I didn't have at least one gun available to me. Just this morning I spent time looking up bulk ammo.

A high number of the people who die from gunshots are undesirables anyway, so no big loss. The British don't understand that.

[Drummond]

I ran across the British anti-gun mentality firsthand on that forum that closed. I don't understand the British inclination to find Americans as in favor of a death cult. Guns, for the 99%, are the exact opposite. I would not sleep well at night if I didn't have at least one gun available to me. Just this morning I spent time looking up bulk ammo.

A high number of the people who die from gunshots are undesirables anyway, so no big loss. The British don't understand that.

You're certainly right in your last two sentences. In fact, that they're 'undesirables' won't really get coverage in those terms at all .. it's all about 'the loss of human life', and how - if only gun ownership were severely curbed - lives could be saved.

[Remember, we have no death penalty here, so the very notion of anyone deserving death for any reason is far more alien to our thinking. The Brits will even ban extraditions (even of terrorists) to any overseas nation where there's a likelihood of the death penalty resulting from it.]

And yes, I still remember your encounter on that forum ! You had a rough time of it there. It all comes from generation after generation of Socialist indoctrination in Britain, one that's firmly taken hold. It's something Obama would be delighted to see duplicated in the US.

[CSM]

You're certainly right in your last two sentences. In fact, that they're 'undesirables' won't really get coverage in those terms at all .. it's all about 'the loss of human life', and how - if only gun ownership were severely curbed - lives could be saved.

[Remember, we have no death penalty here, so the very notion of anyone deserving death for any reason is far more alien to our thinking. The Brits will even ban extraditions (even of terrorists) to any overseas nation where there's a likelihood of the death penalty resulting from it.]

And yes, I still remember your encounter on that forum ! You had a rough time of it there. It all comes from generation after generation of Socialist indoctrination in Britain, one that's firmly taken hold. It's something Obama would be delighted to see duplicated in the US.

All I can say is that there may be some residual resentment among SOME Brits.... without guns and the Second Amendment, we here would still be loyal subjects of the Crown instead of US citizens. LOL!

[fj1200]

All I can say is that there may be some residual resentment among SOME Brits.... without guns and the Second Amendment, we here would still be loyal subjects of the Crown instead of US citizens. LOL!

Wouldn't we just be Can-ah-dian then and talk funny eh?

[Drummond]

All I can say is that there may be some residual resentment among SOME Brits.... without guns and the Second Amendment, we here would still be loyal subjects of the Crown instead of US citizens. LOL!

You should 'worry' ... I'd say that you have taken the correct path, and its us who need to learn from YOU.

Pity it'll never happen .. I think Perianne could tell you from her own experience how far in the opposite direction we've gone.

[Bilgerat]

Things were certainly different after Dunkirk, but then the Brits were far less effete back then.


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[Drummond]

Things were certainly different after Dunkirk, but then the Brits were far less effete back then.


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Of course - what this also says is that there was a shortage of ownership of arms in the first place ! That's because we'd already had decades of Socialist interference, even back then.

'Funny' how the logic of gun proliferation increased in value to the ordinary Brit, back then ... when faced with a stark reality. Which proves one thing ... for all the Leftie idealism demanding gun control, the only ultimately practical measure is to OWN THEM, to HAVE THEM READILY AVAILABLE.