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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
01-12-2016, 10:53 AM
http://www.newsmax.com/HerbertLondon/911-Islam-Muslim-Radical/2016/01/11/id/709000/

Time to End Radical Islam Political Correctness

In accordance with a ten year plan of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) to implement United Nations’ Resolution 16:18 which criminalizes all criticism of Islam worldwide, the U.S. House of Representatives issued H. Res. 569 condemning violence, bigotry, and “hateful rhetoric” toward Muslims in the United States.

This proposal comes on the heels of Attorney General Loretta Lynch’s post San Bernardino promise to prosecute anyone guilty of anti-Muslim speech. It is clear that Ms. Lynch is firing a canon at a fly.

According to FBI’s annual Uniform Crime Report, there were 1014 hate crime incidents motivated by religious bias in 2014. Of those, 154 – 15.2 percent — were anti-Islamic.

More than half were anti-Jewish incidents.

Not only is this yet another example of the Obama administration exaggerating minor threats, but it suggests as well an ignorance or callous avoidance of the First Amendment.

Progressive elites have accused those who condemn Muslim extremism of being extremists themselves — claiming that censure of radical Islam is an indiscriminate criticism of all Muslims.

Here is an example of what progressives would call “Islamophobia,” dubbed appropriately by Andrew Cummins as a word “created by fascists, used by cowards, to manipulate morons.”

According to a 2013 Pew Research Survey, 10 percent of Muslims (160 million) support religiously motivated violence against civilians in certain situations. Fifteen percent believe that execution is justified for apostasy and almost 23 percent justify killing women who have extramarital sex.

Since 9/11, there have been well over 20,000 terrorist attacks connected to Islam.

Why then do progressive elites accuse critics of radical Islam as Islamophobic? According to French Prime Minister Valls this tactic is a weapon by Islam’s apologists to silence their critics. It is a cudgel of political correctness to silence the opposition.

What has emerged with this campaign of political correctness is a frontal assault on free speech. In this emerging paradigm if you criticize Islam, you are a racist.

Islam is rendered off limits except for accolades, or, at least, neutral acceptance.


This attempt to silence voices of opposition and critical analysis has gained adherence as the House Resolution would suggest. Clearly a resolution is not an Act and presumably members of the Senate will reject this proposal; nonetheless, it is worrisome that a Republican led House would even entertain the idea of opposing anti-Muslim speech.
Special: Halle Berry Shocks World With New Look and 27 Year old Man
Every American, obviously including Muslims, has an inalienable right to live without fear and intimidation and practice religious ideas without interference.

The issue is the practice of one’s faith that may be incompatible with provisions of the Constitution, including upholding the laws of the land and expecting citizen compliance with these laws.

Tashfeen Malik and Syed Pizwan Farook who killed 14 of Farook’s co-workers and wounded dozens of others in San Bernardino, California were radicalized in a mosque according to recent reports.

They did not respect the laws of this land, despite the fact Farook was an American citizen.

Here is the rub. Muslims are free to pursue their faith, but when radicalization occurs that challenges national security and our way of life, censure is appropriate.

This isn’t Islamophobia; it is common sense. The rhetoric should be condemnatory even if many House members don’t see it that way.

Free speech isn’t only light and sweet; it represents the harsh dimensions of life.

The concern about Islamophobia is part of cultural degradation.

Several years ago, the philosopher Mortimer Adler said, “A culture is not killed by political conflicts, even when they attain the shattering violence of modern warfare, not by economic revolutions, even when they involve the dislocations of modern mass uprisings.


"A culture dies of diseases which are themselves cultural. It may be born sick, as modern culture was, or it may decay through insufficient vitality to overcome disruptive forces present in every culture, but in any case, cultural disorder is a cause and not an effect of political and economic disturbance which beset the world today.”

If Adler is right, one might ask how can the culture be inoculated against a political correctness that protects potential violence and erodes the foundations of the nation?

Herbert London is president emeritus of Hudson Institute and author of the books "The Transformational Decade" (University Press of America) and "Decline and Revival in Higher Education" (Transaction Books). Read more reports from Herbert London

Gunny
01-12-2016, 11:04 AM
Time to End Radical Islam Political Correctness

In accordance with a ten year plan of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) to implement United Nations’ Resolution 16:18 which criminalizes all criticism of Islam worldwide, the U.S. House of Representatives issued H. Res. 569 condemning violence, bigotry, and “hateful rhetoric” toward Muslims in the United States.

This proposal comes on the heels of Attorney General Loretta Lynch’s post San Bernardino promise to prosecute anyone guilty of anti-Muslim speech. It is clear that Ms. Lynch is firing a canon at a fly.

According to FBI’s annual Uniform Crime Report, there were 1014 hate crime incidents motivated by religious bias in 2014. Of those, 154 – 15.2 percent — were anti-Islamic.

More than half were anti-Jewish incidents.

Not only is this yet another example of the Obama administration exaggerating minor threats, but it suggests as well an ignorance or callous avoidance of the First Amendment.

Progressive elites have accused those who condemn Muslim extremism of being extremists themselves — claiming that censure of radical Islam is an indiscriminate criticism of all Muslims.

Here is an example of what progressives would call “Islamophobia,” dubbed appropriately by Andrew Cummins as a word “created by fascists, used by cowards, to manipulate morons.”

According to a 2013 Pew Research Survey, 10 percent of Muslims (160 million) support religiously motivated violence against civilians in certain situations. Fifteen percent believe that execution is justified for apostasy and almost 23 percent justify killing women who have extramarital sex.

Since 9/11, there have been well over 20,000 terrorist attacks connected to Islam.

Why then do progressive elites accuse critics of radical Islam as Islamophobic? According to French Prime Minister Valls this tactic is a weapon by Islam’s apologists to silence their critics. It is a cudgel of political correctness to silence the opposition.

What has emerged with this campaign of political correctness is a frontal assault on free speech. In this emerging paradigm if you criticize Islam, you are a racist.

Islam is rendered off limits except for accolades, or, at least, neutral acceptance.


This attempt to silence voices of opposition and critical analysis has gained adherence as the House Resolution would suggest. Clearly a resolution is not an Act and presumably members of the Senate will reject this proposal; nonetheless, it is worrisome that a Republican led House would even entertain the idea of opposing anti-Muslim speech.
Special: Halle Berry Shocks World With New Look and 27 Year old Man
Every American, obviously including Muslims, has an inalienable right to live without fear and intimidation and practice religious ideas without interference.

The issue is the practice of one’s faith that may be incompatible with provisions of the Constitution, including upholding the laws of the land and expecting citizen compliance with these laws.

Tashfeen Malik and Syed Pizwan Farook who killed 14 of Farook’s co-workers and wounded dozens of others in San Bernardino, California were radicalized in a mosque according to recent reports.

They did not respect the laws of this land, despite the fact Farook was an American citizen.

Here is the rub. Muslims are free to pursue their faith, but when radicalization occurs that challenges national security and our way of life, censure is appropriate.

This isn’t Islamophobia; it is common sense. The rhetoric should be condemnatory even if many House members don’t see it that way.

Free speech isn’t only light and sweet; it represents the harsh dimensions of life.

The concern about Islamophobia is part of cultural degradation.

Several years ago, the philosopher Mortimer Adler said, “A culture is not killed by political conflicts, even when they attain the shattering violence of modern warfare, not by economic revolutions, even when they involve the dislocations of modern mass uprisings.


"A culture dies of diseases which are themselves cultural. It may be born sick, as modern culture was, or it may decay through insufficient vitality to overcome disruptive forces present in every culture, but in any case, cultural disorder is a cause and not an effect of political and economic disturbance which beset the world today.”

If Adler is right, one might ask how can the culture be inoculated against a political correctness that protects potential violence and erodes the foundations of the nation?

Herbert London is president emeritus of Hudson Institute and author of the books "The Transformational Decade" (University Press of America) and "Decline and Revival in Higher Education" (Transaction Books). Read more reports from Herbert London

I'll call 'em ragheads if I damned well want to. A bunch of criminals have more 1st Amendment Rights than I? I think not.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
01-12-2016, 11:08 AM
Time to End Radical Islam Political Correctness

In accordance with a ten year plan of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) to implement United Nations’ Resolution 16:18 which criminalizes all criticism of Islam worldwide, the U.S. House of Representatives issued H. Res. 569 condemning violence, bigotry, and “hateful rhetoric” toward Muslims in the United States.

This proposal comes on the heels of Attorney General Loretta Lynch’s post San Bernardino promise to prosecute anyone guilty of anti-Muslim speech. It is clear that Ms. Lynch is firing a canon at a fly.

According to FBI’s annual Uniform Crime Report, there were 1014 hate crime incidents motivated by religious bias in 2014. Of those, 154 – 15.2 percent — were anti-Islamic.

More than half were anti-Jewish incidents.

Not only is this yet another example of the Obama administration exaggerating minor threats, but it suggests as well an ignorance or callous avoidance of the First Amendment.

Progressive elites have accused those who condemn Muslim extremism of being extremists themselves — claiming that censure of radical Islam is an indiscriminate criticism of all Muslims.

Here is an example of what progressives would call “Islamophobia,” dubbed appropriately by Andrew Cummins as a word “created by fascists, used by cowards, to manipulate morons.”

According to a 2013 Pew Research Survey, 10 percent of Muslims (160 million) support religiously motivated violence against civilians in certain situations. Fifteen percent believe that execution is justified for apostasy and almost 23 percent justify killing women who have extramarital sex.

Since 9/11, there have been well over 20,000 terrorist attacks connected to Islam.

Why then do progressive elites accuse critics of radical Islam as Islamophobic? According to French Prime Minister Valls this tactic is a weapon by Islam’s apologists to silence their critics. It is a cudgel of political correctness to silence the opposition.

What has emerged with this campaign of political correctness is a frontal assault on free speech. In this emerging paradigm if you criticize Islam, you are a racist.

Islam is rendered off limits except for accolades, or, at least, neutral acceptance.


This attempt to silence voices of opposition and critical analysis has gained adherence as the House Resolution would suggest. Clearly a resolution is not an Act and presumably members of the Senate will reject this proposal; nonetheless, it is worrisome that a Republican led House would even entertain the idea of opposing anti-Muslim speech.
Special: Halle Berry Shocks World With New Look and 27 Year old Man
Every American, obviously including Muslims, has an inalienable right to live without fear and intimidation and practice religious ideas without interference.

The issue is the practice of one’s faith that may be incompatible with provisions of the Constitution, including upholding the laws of the land and expecting citizen compliance with these laws.

Tashfeen Malik and Syed Pizwan Farook who killed 14 of Farook’s co-workers and wounded dozens of others in San Bernardino, California were radicalized in a mosque according to recent reports.

They did not respect the laws of this land, despite the fact Farook was an American citizen.

Here is the rub. Muslims are free to pursue their faith, but when radicalization occurs that challenges national security and our way of life, censure is appropriate.

This isn’t Islamophobia; it is common sense. The rhetoric should be condemnatory even if many House members don’t see it that way.

Free speech isn’t only light and sweet; it represents the harsh dimensions of life.

The concern about Islamophobia is part of cultural degradation.

Several years ago, the philosopher Mortimer Adler said, “A culture is not killed by political conflicts, even when they attain the shattering violence of modern warfare, not by economic revolutions, even when they involve the dislocations of modern mass uprisings.


"A culture dies of diseases which are themselves cultural. It may be born sick, as modern culture was, or it may decay through insufficient vitality to overcome disruptive forces present in every culture, but in any case, cultural disorder is a cause and not an effect of political and economic disturbance which beset the world today.”

If Adler is right, one might ask how can the culture be inoculated against a political correctness that protects potential violence and erodes the foundations of the nation?

Herbert London is president emeritus of Hudson Institute and author of the books "The Transformational Decade" (University Press of America) and "Decline and Revival in Higher Education" (Transaction Books). Read more reports from Herbert London

UN resolution to protect muslim murderers and abrogate completely our free speech rights!!
Yes folks, thats exactly what obama has signed on for too!
And he is vying for and will get the gig as the next top bastard at the ffing UN.
All proceeding according to the globalist plan...
take their guns, make 'em bow to Allah!!!
Thats the muzzy /globalist pact that works to destroy all of us! Fact not fiction .. -Tyr

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
01-12-2016, 11:12 AM
I'll call 'em ragheads if I damned well want to. A bunch of criminals have more 1st Amendment Rights than I? I think not.
They are working on disarming you so they can in future come to destroy you for expressing your free speech rights!
This is real and solidly in the works -not a conspiracy theory!
I saw this coming many years ago, even long before my , I Take My Stand, thread presented here over 3 years ago.
All of which has now been clearly proving that I was right in my comments in that very long thread and my critics then were dead wrong!-Tyr

Gunny
01-12-2016, 11:29 AM
They are working on disarming you so they can in future come to destroy you for expressing your free speech rights!
This is real and solidly in the works -not a conspiracy theory!
I saw this coming many years ago, even long before my , I Take My Stand, thread presented here over 3 years ago.
All of which has now been clearly proving that I was right in my comments in that very long thread and my critics then were dead wrong!-Tyr

Bubba, they ain't disarming me. When in Rome .... I live about 150 miles from the border. I'll be armed, one way or the other. I will NOT obey a tyrannical edict that violates the actual law.

fj1200
01-12-2016, 04:15 PM
It doesn't appear to be specifically for Islam.


Combating intolerance, negative stereotyping and stigmatization of, and discrimination, incitement to violence, and violence against persons based on religion or belief
http://geneva.usmission.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Resolution16-18.pdf

Perhaps you have a more updated draft.

BTW, stupid UN. :shakesfist:

Drummond
01-12-2016, 05:12 PM
It doesn't appear to be specifically for Islam.


http://geneva.usmission.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Resolution16-18.pdf

Perhaps you have a more updated draft.

BTW, stupid UN. :shakesfist:

From Tyr's previous quote:


According to a 2013 Pew Research Survey, 10 percent of Muslims (160 million) support religiously motivated violence against civilians in certain situations. Fifteen percent believe that execution is justified for apostasy and almost 23 percent justify killing women who have extramarital sex.

Since 9/11, there have been well over 20,000 terrorist attacks connected to Islam.

What do you say, FJ ? Would you rather a climate exist where these things aren't criticised, condemned, where Islam has enshrined into edict immunity from culpability in the eyes of the world's critics ??

Perhaps, in such a 'Newspeak' sort of climate, viewing Islamic terrorists as 'human beings' might ultimately become a 'credible' act ?

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
01-12-2016, 07:13 PM
It doesn't appear to be specifically for Islam.


http://geneva.usmission.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Resolution16-18.pdf

Perhaps you have a more updated draft.

BTW, stupid UN. :shakesfist:




In accordance with a ten year plan of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) to implement United Nations’ Resolution 16:18 which criminalizes all criticism of Islam worldwide, the U.S. House of Representatives issued H. Res. 569 condemning violence, bigotry, and “hateful rhetoric” toward Muslims in the United States.

^^^^ Try reading it again..-Tyr

I did not see Christian or Jew mentioned, nor even Hindu....
WalMart sells reading glasses for about 12 bucks. -Tyr

fj1200
01-13-2016, 09:48 AM
From Tyr's previous quote:

That's not related to the UN Resolution.


^^^^ Try reading it again..-Tyr

I did not see Christian or Jew mentioned, nor even Hindu....
WalMart sells reading glasses for about 12 bucks. -Tyr

Why? I read it correctly the first time. That isn't what the UN Resolution says which is why I went to the source. Do you have an updated draft? Also, are you aware that House Resolutions do not have the force of law? Not that it criminalized anything anyway.


Resolved, That the House of Representatives—(1) expresses its condolences for the victims of anti-Muslim hate crimes;
(2) steadfastly confirms its dedication to the rights and dignity of all its citizens of all faiths, beliefs, and cultures;
(3) denounces in the strongest terms the increase of hate speech, intimidation, violence, vandalism, arson, and other hate crimes targeted against mosques, Muslims, or those perceived to be Muslim;
(4) recognizes that the United States Muslim community has made countless positive contributions to United States society;
(5) declares that the civil rights and civil liberties of all United States citizens, including Muslims in the United States, should be protected and preserved;
(6) urges local and Federal law enforcement authorities to work to prevent hate crimes; and to prosecute to the fullest extent of the law those perpetrators of hate crimes; and
(7) reaffirms the inalienable right of every citizen to live without fear and intimidation, and to practice their freedom of faith.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-resolution/569/text

Oh, and the UN sucks. :)

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
01-13-2016, 09:48 AM
^^^^ Try reading it again..-Tyr

I did not see Christian or Jew mentioned, nor even Hindu....
WalMart sells reading glasses for about 12 bucks. -Tyr

I guess fj still needs those reading glasses. He seems to have missed this reply and its glaring facts enlarged
for him and his extremely poor eyesight.-Tyr

fj1200
01-13-2016, 09:52 AM
I guess fj still needs those reading glasses. He seems to have missed this reply and its glaring facts enlarged
for him and his extremely poor eyesight.-Tyr

It's apparently quite easy to make you look the fool.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
01-13-2016, 09:53 AM
that's not related to the un resolution.

o' really?????



in accordance with a ten year plan of the organization of islamic cooperation (oic) to implement united nations’ resolution 16:18 which criminalizes all criticism of islam worldwide,

^^^^ then what the hell is this part???--tyr

my previous reply was sent exact same time as was your reply.

fj1200
01-13-2016, 09:57 AM
o' really?????

^^^^ then what the hell is this part???--tyr

That isn't the section quoted by your ignorant friend.


my previous reply was sent exact same time as was your reply.

Which makes you look the fool.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
01-13-2016, 09:59 AM
united nations’ resolution 16:18 which criminalizes all criticism of islam worldwide,

NAME ANY OTHER RELIGION IN THE WORLD WHICH HAS BEEN SANCTIONED AND PROTECTED BY THE STINKING UN.

That quoted action by the UN highlights its abject prejudice against all religions except Islam...and its cowardice in facing them as the great enemy they are to all non-muslims.
Obama will head straight for the body to further harm this nation after leaving office as president.
He needs to be arrested and imprisoned for his damn treason!!
We simply must kick the damn UN out of this country and not give it another damn dime!
As it works tirelessly to weaken and destroy us.. A fact.. -Tyr

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
01-13-2016, 10:02 AM
That isn't the section quoted by your ignorant friend.



Which makes you look the fool.

Idiot- sent same time would make you look like a fool, if it did me , --what a stupid moron you are.
Did you even graduate from high school??? Serious question... -Tyr

fj1200
01-13-2016, 10:03 AM
NAME ANY OTHER RELIGION IN THE WORLD WHICH HAS BEEN SANCTIONED AND PROTECTED BY THE STINKING UN.

That quoted action by the UN highlights its abject prejudice against all religions except Islam...and its cowardice in facing them as the great enemy they are to all non-muslims.
Obama will head straight for the body to further harm this nation after leaving office as president.
He needs to be arrested and imprisoned for his damn treason!!
We simply must kick the damn UN out of this country and not give it another damn dime!
As it works tirelessly to weaken and destroy us.. A fact.. -Tyr

Ranting with ever larger font doesn't disprove my original post.


It doesn't appear to be specifically for Islam.

Perhaps you have a more updated draft.

And I'll repeat: Stupid UN.

fj1200
01-13-2016, 10:04 AM
Idiot- sent same time would make you look like a fool, if it did me , --what a stupid moron you are.
Did you even graduate from high school??? Serious question... -Tyr

Because it shows you to be incredibly misinformed.


He seems to have missed this reply...

jimnyc
01-13-2016, 10:12 AM
Here is the best way to end radical islam, both quickly and humanely. And at the rate they are killing people since 9/11, I believe in the long run that this will save lives.

Start with these:

http://images.realclear.com/300447_5_.jpg

And these:

http://thelondonpost.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Carpet-bombing-Tora-bora-500x320.jpg

And maybe just one of these (or 2 if I have my way) :)

http://cdn1.img.sputniknews.com/images/102974/63/1029746337.jpg

Leave this in it's place:

http://dreamatico.com/data_images/desert/desert-2.jpg

Problem saved. You're welcome.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
01-13-2016, 10:54 AM
Here is the best way to end radical islam, both quickly and humanely. And at the rate they are killing people since 9/11, I believe in the long run that this will save lives.

Start with these:

http://images.realclear.com/300447_5_.jpg

And these:

http://thelondonpost.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Carpet-bombing-Tora-bora-500x320.jpg

And maybe just one of these (or 2 if I have my way) :)

http://cdn1.img.sputniknews.com/images/102974/63/1029746337.jpg

Leave this in it's place:

http://dreamatico.com/data_images/desert/desert-2.jpg

Problem saved. You're welcome.

Neutron bombs , about a hundred of them would do the trick, all strategically administered. -Tyr

Gunny
01-13-2016, 12:01 PM
It doesn't appear to be specifically for Islam.


http://geneva.usmission.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Resolution16-18.pdf

Perhaps you have a more updated draft.

BTW, stupid UN. :shakesfist:

Doesn't REALLY matter who or what it identifies, does it? I don't like the KKK, but I believe in their equal right to freedom of expression as much as anyone else's.

fj1200
01-13-2016, 01:09 PM
Doesn't REALLY matter who or what it identifies, does it? I don't like the KKK, but I believe in their equal right to freedom of expression as much as anyone else's.

That's the thing; it doesn't really identify anyone or anything. It's centered on religion and belief in classic UN puffery.