Meanwhile China Continues

[Kathianne]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/02/16/exclusive-china-sends-surface-to-air-missiles-to-contested-island-in-provocative-move.html?intcmp=hplnws

Put this in category of press not 'connecting the dots' regarding Obama's foreign failures and near future threats.

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/02/16/exclusive-china-sends-surface-to-air-missiles-to-contested-island-in-provocative-move.html?intcmp=hplnws

Put this in category of press not 'connecting the dots' regarding Obama's foreign failures and near future threats.

Certainly seems to vindicate this thread and my comments about China from three years go.



www.debatepolicy.com/showthread.php?43808-Japan-Russia-agree-to-cooperate-on-security-as-China-rises

11-04-2013, 12:03 AM #1 Tyr-Ziu Saxnot's Avatar Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
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Japan, Russia agree to cooperate on security as China rises
http://news.yahoo.com/japan-russia-a...074456379.html
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Japan, Russia agree to cooperate on security as China rises
ReutersReuters – Sat, Nov 2, 2013. TOKYO (Reuters) - Japan and Russia held their first joint defense and foreign ministers' meeting on Saturday and agreed to boost security cooperation in the Asia-Pacific as they both warily watch neighboring China's rising influence.

Japan and Russia have never signed a treaty to mark the end of World War Two because of a territorial dispute but they are moving to deepen ties despite that, and despite Russian concern about Japan's role in a U.S. missile defense program.

The foreign ministers of both countries said the meeting helped build trust.

"To boost cooperation in the field of security, and not just in the field of economic and people exchanges, means that we are improving overall Japan-Russia ties," Japanese Foreign Minister Fumio Kishida told a news conference.

"This would also have a positive impact on the negotiations to sign a peace treaty."

Japan and Russia both claim remote, windswept islets called the Northern Territories in Japan and the Southern Kuriles in Russia.

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Russian President Vladimir Putin, who have met four times in the last six months, agreed in April to revive talks on resolving the dispute and a vice ministerial-level meeting will be held next year.

On Saturday, the two sides agreed to hold naval exercises to combat terrorism and piracy and to deepen their cooperation in regional security and diplomatic forums.

Russia invited the Japanese ministers to Moscow in 2014 for more talks, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said.

Neither side referred explicitly to worries about China's rising power and Kishida said security cooperation between Japan and Russia was not being undertaken with any other country in mind.

The path to a good relations between Japan and Russia may not be entirely smooth.

Russia expressed concern over Japan's moves to strengthen its defense alliance with the United States including a plan to locate a U.S. missile-defense radar system in Japan.

"We openly communicated that we are concerned about Japan's participation in the United States' global missile defense system," Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu said.

Relations between Russia and the United States have been strained by disputes over Iran, Syria, and Russia's decision to give temporary asylum to U.S. fugitive spy contractor Edward Snowden.

(Reporting by Yoko Kubota; Editing by Robert Birsel)
^^^^^^ Seems those that derided my previous posts about China's rise and aggressive moves can explain why after all this time since WW2 ended Japan suddenly decides to settle territorial disputes with Russia. The answer is given in the above article. This new era of Japan and Russia is coming about because Japan sees USA as untrustworthy and know under Obama we will side with China if a shooting war erupts. Yet again Obama harms our alliances . So the previous naysayers can sing a different tune but my guess is that they won't. --Tyr



Note- I believe I have comment here about China being our future enemy and how I did so 5 years prior at my old forum--and each time was criticized as a fool there. Same as my deriders did here over 3 years ago. -Tyr

[Gunny]

China has been doing this crap for years. The only real problem now as opposed to then is everyone knows Obama won't do anything. He's backed down to everyone in the world.

Want to see China tank? Start a war with the US. We stop paying them. Their economy is dust. This is just someone else getting in line to embarrass the US without fear of reprisal.

[namvet]

woody island is a resort island the gooks opened years ago. so it must be one of the others. the Parcels are closer to Vietnam. however the presence has all these country's upset. they're wasting their time with Obama. he has 2 big ears and still can't hear and doubtful if he can find it on the map. probably thinks its outside a Harlem.

the Philippine Gov has offered to reopen the old naval/marine base at Subic. we operated out there during the Nam war

[Perianne]

woody island is a resort island the gooks opened years ago. so it must be one of the others. the Parcels are closer to Vietnam. however the presence has all these country's upset. they're wasting their time with Obama. he has 2 big ears and still can't hear and doubtful if he can find it on the map. probably thinks its outside a Harlem.

the Philippine Gov has offered to reopen the old naval/marine base at Subic. we operated out there during the Nam war

Hahahah! That is a dirty word. My husband used to say he got a "woody".

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

woody island is a resort island the gooks opened years ago. so it must be one of the others. the Parcels are closer to Vietnam. however the presence has all these country's upset. they're wasting their time with Obama. he has 2 big ears and still can't hear and doubtful if he can find it on the map. probably thinks its outside a Harlem.

the Philippine Gov has offered to reopen the old naval/marine base at Subic. we operated out there during the Nam war

The bambastard will not take them up on that offer because it would benefit us far too much.
He does not have anywhere on his treasonous agenda actions that would benefit this nation , he was put there to do just the opposite..--Tyr

[namvet]

Hahahah! That is a dirty word. My husband used to say he got a "woody".

??? ziiiing