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Kathianne
07-15-2007, 09:03 AM
Is Al Qaeda opening a new front in Pakistan? It looks like it may be. The deal is they seem to be repeating the civilian violence that didn't work for long in Iraq:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article2076013.ece


uly 15, 2007
Bin Laden’s deputy behind the Red Mosque bloodbath
Dean Nelson, Islamabad and Ghulam Hasnain

AL-QAEDA’S leadership secretly directed the Islamic militants whose armed revolt at the Red Mosque in Islamabad ended last week with more than 100 deaths after it was stormed by the Pakistan army.

According to senior intelligence officials, the troops who finally took control discovered letters from Osama Bin Laden’s deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri. They were written to Abdul Rashid Ghazi and Abdul Aziz, the brothers who ran the mosque and adjacent madrasah.

Government sources said up to 18 foreign fighters – including Uzbeks, Egyptians and several Afghans – had arrived weeks before the final shootout and set up firing ranges to teach students, including children, how to handle weapons.

Al-Qaeda has wanted to open a Pakistan front in its global jihad since President Pervez Musharraf sided with America after the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001.

Diplomats were surprised by the speed with which the fugitive Zawahiri condemned the raid and called on Pakistanis to rise up against Musharraf.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070715/ap_on_re_as/pakistan


Militants kill 38 in northwest Pakistan

By RIAZ KHAN, Associated Press Writer 10 minutes ago

Suicide attackers struck a police headquarters and a military convoy on Sunday in Pakistan's northwest, killing as many as 38 people in an intensifying anti-government campaign in an area long known as a haven for the Taliban and al-Qaida.

Militants in the Afghan border region disavowed a 10-month old truce with the government that critics said gave them a safe haven from which to launch attacks on Afghan, U.S. and NATO forces in Afghanistan.

The government has deployed thousands of troops to the region to thwart calls by extremists for a holy war to revenge the bloody storming of Islamabad's Red Mosque last week, and the region's Islamic militants are increasingly training their attacks on the soldiers — and apparently other government targets as well.

In Dera Ismail Khan, near South Waziristan, the bomber at the police headquarters struck as recruits were testing to join the force, said Gul Afzal Afridi, a police officer.

"It was a suicide bombing and the attacker mingled among the scores of people gathered for the test and physical examination," Afridi said.

More than 150 people were on the grounds when the bomber struck. The blast killed 20 people and wounded 35, said police officer Mohammed Aslam. He said the head of the suicide bomber and his suicide vest had been found....

Gaffer
07-15-2007, 10:48 AM
Musharraf needs to give us a free hand in the area. His problems would be over in 6 months. There's likely to be a lot more fighting there soon, as pakistan would be an even bigger prize than iraq as far as a state to set themselves up in. A huge population, an infrastructure a large military and atomic weapons. What more could AQ ask for.

If masharraf ever goes down we will have to be taking on pakistan real soon.

JohnDoe
07-15-2007, 11:02 AM
Is Al Qaeda opening a new front in Pakistan? It looks like it may be. The deal is they seem to be repeating the civilian violence that didn't work for long in Iraq:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/asia/article2076013.ece



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070715/ap_on_re_as/pakistan

These tactics were finally used in Iraq, by Al Qaeda to divide and conquer the country via religious differences...causing the Civil war, well, at least one main factor in causing the civil war.

They attacked the Iraqis training to become security forces, continually killing them, just as they are doing in pakistan now, it seems.

Who will be the leader if Musharaf is replaced in a coup? Whoever that is, needs to be wiped out, right now, to slow down this movement to disempower Musharaf...imo, and planning on our part on ''what to do next'' if Musharaf is successfully replaced, with or without allies, needs to be analized in depth...for its long term effects BEFORE we make one move imo.

Kathianne
07-15-2007, 11:07 AM
These tactics were finally used in Iraq, by Al Qaeda to divide and conquer the country via religious differences...causing the Civil war, well, at least one main factor in causing the civil war.

They attacked the Iraqis training to become security forces, continually killing them, just as they are doing in pakistan now, it seems.

Who will be the leader if Musharaf is replaced in a coup? Whoever that is, needs to be wiped out, right now, to slow down this movement to disempower Musharaf...imo, and planning on our part on ''what to do next'' if Musharaf is successfully replaced, with or without allies, needs to be analized in depth...for its long term effects BEFORE we make one move imo.

Yes they did use them in Iraq and yes the tactics did begin a civil war, that many are now stepping back from, not because they 'love the US', but because al Qaeda was killing Iraqis, regardless of Shia or Sunni. Often focusing on children. Not a way to win hearts and minds.