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DLT
04-17-2016, 04:22 PM
I've been wondering about that. Who are they supporting now? Which candidate are they behind in this primary season?

One thing I've become aware of is that the Colorado GOP ran their primary that way to keep outsiders (like Paul) out in previous years. Was that wrong of them? Paul ran as three different critters previously....Libertarian Party, the Constitution Party and as a Republican. Oddly enough Trump things that Colorado wanted to keep HIM out as an outsider, as well. Trump has been a Democrat, an Independent, has run as a Reform Party candidate, and of course, is now running as a Republican. See the correlation?

Perhaps Trump is right that Colorado was trying to protect their process from any 'outsider' candidate. And if so, they have the right, if not duty, to do that. However, Trump had the same opportunities that Cruz had to gain the delegates, but Trump chose not to bother. Only after he lost badly did he then proceed to do his usual....whine.

Anyway, back to the Paul crew. Where are they now???


Where are all the Ron 'Paulite' libertarians in 2016?

Last month, Walter Block, a libertarian professor of economics and long-time acolyte of Ron Paul, pinched his nose and co-launched a group, Libertarians for Trump.

That would be Donald Trump — the red-tailed hawk of border security, defender of entitlements and opponent of free-trade. Not exactly a disciple of Ayn Rand, the novelist famous for "Atlas Shrugged" who has inspired many libertarians. Block's group, he freely admits, is a strenuous exercise of realpolitik — the ultimate lesser-of-evils decision. While he finds much of Trump's domestic agenda odious, Block very much likes Trump's noninterventionist foreign policy positions.

Still, Block insists his group, which he says had garnered several thousand signatories, is narrowly focused. It advocates only for Trump as the Republican nominee, and it intends to promptly disband after the primary. Then, Block said, even his vote is up for grabs. "If it was Bernie [Sanders] versus Donald, I would vote for the Libertarian [Party candidate] for sure," he told CNBC.com. "If it was Donald versus Hillary [Clinton], I would have a much harder time. I would have trouble deciding."

His conundrum is not unique among his kind. Four years after its political awakening, and in the absence of an obvious rallying point, the Ron Paul coalition finds itself in a diffuse, conflicted and confused diaspora.

Paul's devotees — the so-named Paulites — are now erratically strewn across the political spectrum of the 2016 election, at once attaching themselves to Trump's populism, Ted Cruz's conservatism and even Sanders' socialism. Still many others who found their political voice in the utterances of Paul, a white-haired obstetrician-turned-congressman, are trying to find a place to land.

"For people who got frustrated after 2012 and [have] now left the liberty movement and activism altogether, you have to keep in mind: this is a long game," said Norm Singleton, a longtime Paul staffer who now runs Campaign for Liberty, the ex-congressman's grassroots nonprofit. "Dr. Paul was speaking out for liberty going back as far as 1971."

For those seeking guidance on this presidential race, the octogenarian has provided scant direction. In numerous op-eds and cable news appearances, Paul has largely expressed just how displeased he is with the current offerings, chastising Cruz for being "owned by Goldman Sachs" and Trump for having "zero" solutions to offer. (Paul declined to speak to CNBC.com for this story, citing a busy schedule this week.)

Paul's friends have learned better than trying to persuade him to pick the lesser of evils. Block recounts his tireless but fruitless efforts trying to persuade Paul to jump aboard the Trump Train.

"I keep saying, suppose I have a gun to your head, who would you pick? And I still don't get an answer out of him," Block said. "He hates them all, but that's not good enough."

The current state of the Paul coalition ratifies a general truism about political movements, particularly insurgent ones: They tend to go adrift without a charismatic leader at the helm. It also suggests something specific about the Paul coalition that surprised the 2012 race: its support had much more to do with Paul's outsiderism, than his libertarianism.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/14/where-are-all-the-ron-paulite-libertarians-in-2016.html

Abbey Marie
04-17-2016, 06:46 PM
My formerly Ron Paul loving nephew is in for Gary Johnson.

Elessar
04-17-2016, 06:51 PM
I think Ron Paul might be a nice person to meet, but
some of his notions would have thrust us back into colonial
times and isolation.

In a modern world, that is just not possible.

His followers wore rose-colored glasses and could
not see the forest for the trees.

Voted4Reagan
04-17-2016, 06:54 PM
smoking Dope in Colorado

Gunny
04-17-2016, 06:56 PM
I've been wondering about that. Who are they supporting now? Which candidate are they behind in this primary season?

One thing I've become aware of is that the Colorado GOP ran their primary that way to keep outsiders (like Paul) out in previous years. Was that wrong of them? Paul ran as three different critters previously....Libertarian Party, the Constitution Party and as a Republican. Oddly enough Trump things that Colorado wanted to keep HIM out as an outsider, as well. Trump has been a Democrat, an Independent, has run as a Reform Party candidate, and of course, is now running as a Republican. See the correlation?

Perhaps Trump is right that Colorado was trying to protect their process from any 'outsider' candidate. And if so, they have the right, if not duty, to do that. However, Trump had the same opportunities that Cruz had to gain the delegates, but Trump chose not to bother. Only after he lost badly did he then proceed to do his usual....whine.

Anyway, back to the Paul crew. Where are they now???


Where are all the Ron 'Paulite' libertarians in 2016?

Last month, Walter Block, a libertarian professor of economics and long-time acolyte of Ron Paul, pinched his nose and co-launched a group, Libertarians for Trump.

That would be Donald Trump — the red-tailed hawk of border security, defender of entitlements and opponent of free-trade. Not exactly a disciple of Ayn Rand, the novelist famous for "Atlas Shrugged" who has inspired many libertarians. Block's group, he freely admits, is a strenuous exercise of realpolitik — the ultimate lesser-of-evils decision. While he finds much of Trump's domestic agenda odious, Block very much likes Trump's noninterventionist foreign policy positions.

Still, Block insists his group, which he says had garnered several thousand signatories, is narrowly focused. It advocates only for Trump as the Republican nominee, and it intends to promptly disband after the primary. Then, Block said, even his vote is up for grabs. "If it was Bernie [Sanders] versus Donald, I would vote for the Libertarian [Party candidate] for sure," he told CNBC.com. "If it was Donald versus Hillary [Clinton], I would have a much harder time. I would have trouble deciding."

His conundrum is not unique among his kind. Four years after its political awakening, and in the absence of an obvious rallying point, the Ron Paul coalition finds itself in a diffuse, conflicted and confused diaspora.

Paul's devotees — the so-named Paulites — are now erratically strewn across the political spectrum of the 2016 election, at once attaching themselves to Trump's populism, Ted Cruz's conservatism and even Sanders' socialism. Still many others who found their political voice in the utterances of Paul, a white-haired obstetrician-turned-congressman, are trying to find a place to land.

"For people who got frustrated after 2012 and [have] now left the liberty movement and activism altogether, you have to keep in mind: this is a long game," said Norm Singleton, a longtime Paul staffer who now runs Campaign for Liberty, the ex-congressman's grassroots nonprofit. "Dr. Paul was speaking out for liberty going back as far as 1971."

For those seeking guidance on this presidential race, the octogenarian has provided scant direction. In numerous op-eds and cable news appearances, Paul has largely expressed just how displeased he is with the current offerings, chastising Cruz for being "owned by Goldman Sachs" and Trump for having "zero" solutions to offer. (Paul declined to speak to CNBC.com for this story, citing a busy schedule this week.)

Paul's friends have learned better than trying to persuade him to pick the lesser of evils. Block recounts his tireless but fruitless efforts trying to persuade Paul to jump aboard the Trump Train.

"I keep saying, suppose I have a gun to your head, who would you pick? And I still don't get an answer out of him," Block said. "He hates them all, but that's not good enough."

The current state of the Paul coalition ratifies a general truism about political movements, particularly insurgent ones: They tend to go adrift without a charismatic leader at the helm. It also suggests something specific about the Paul coalition that surprised the 2012 race: its support had much more to do with Paul's outsiderism, than his libertarianism.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/04/14/where-are-all-the-ron-paulite-libertarians-in-2016.html


I know in 08 they spent all their time putting up flyers on every damned telephone pole in San Antonio. The ones they had 90 days to remove after the election and they stayed there until the sun turned the paper white.