Illegals trying to be citizens ... to be anti-Trump ....

[Drummond]

Just found this. Some strong evidence, I think, of how good Trump would truly be for your country ... ??

http://gawker.com/trump-has-inspired-tens-of-thousands-of-immigrants-to-a-1763420016


Immigrants are applying to become naturalized U.S. citizens at unprecedented rates, the New York Times reports (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/08/us/trumps-rise-spurs-latino-immigrants-to-naturalize-to-vote-against-him.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0), largely in response to Donald Trump. The pace of applications is gathering speed weekly: There could be as many as a million by the end of 2016—about 200,000 more than the average.

[CSM]

Just found this. Some strong evidence, I think, of how good Trump would truly be for your country ... ??

http://gawker.com/trump-has-inspired-tens-of-thousands-of-immigrants-to-a-1763420016

Maybe they fear that the free ride is over if Trump gets elected.

[DLT]

Just found this. Some strong evidence, I think, of how good Trump would truly be for your country ... ??

http://gawker.com/trump-has-inspired-tens-of-thousands-of-immigrants-to-a-1763420016

Add to that....the fact that leftist Democrats are pushing to allow felons to vote, and the fact that they will, of course, vote Democrat.....

and you have a guaranteed victory for the rats this November.....

as planned and orchestrated.

And yeah, I still think Trump is part of that plan and agenda.


http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/virginia-governor-enables-200000-felons-to-vote-in-november/ar-BBs7Ejc?li=BBnb7Kz

[NightTrain]

Maybe they fear that the free ride is over if Trump gets elected.

I've read many stories about democrats doing everything they can to get as many registered as possible for that very reason.

The legal ones are overwhelmingly supporting Trump - they're more pissed than anyone about the free ride and sneaking in illegally when they did it the right way.

[Gunny]

I've read many stories about democrats doing everything they can to get as many registered as possible for that very reason.

The legal ones are overwhelmingly supporting Trump - they're more pissed than anyone about the free ride and sneaking in illegally when they did it the right way.

I grew up around Hispanics. DO note that despite the Dem BS, Texas has had a Republican Governor and Congress for over 15 years. The only lrgal Mexicans I know that are in favor of illegals are themselves immigrants with families still in Mexico. The tax paying ones don't like it anymore than the rest of us.

Look at what the Dems are. A gaggle of minority losers than want freebies. The GOP may stand for we are the other guy, but so does the DNC. The DNC uses scare tactics to get voters, and try getting votes any way they can promising crap they never deliver.

[aboutime]

Gov. of Virginia announced today he will declare 200K felons, and murderers the right to vote. Nothing like helping HILLARY, or BERNIE from the Gov. Seat while selling the entire State down the River of SHIT McAwfull created when he stole his election.

Illegals are also welcome in Virginia. They are just as welcome as the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS groups who have acres of property in FENCED Communities all over the state. But McAWFULL endorsed all the ILLEGAL VOTES he can get to enhance the SOCIALIST idea's he supports so well.

[Gunny]

Gov. of Virginia announced today he will declare 200K felons, and murderers the right to vote. Nothing like helping HILLARY, or BERNIE from the Gov. Seat while selling the entire State down the River of SHIT McAwfull created when he stole his election.

Illegals are also welcome in Virginia. They are just as welcome as the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS groups who have acres of property in FENCED Communities all over the state. But McAWFULL endorsed all the ILLEGAL VOTES he can get to enhance the SOCIALIST idea's he supports so well.


That's too bad. VA is a nice place to live.

[Elessar]

Gov. of Virginia announced today he will declare 200K felons, and murderers the right to vote. Nothing like helping HILLARY, or BERNIE from the Gov. Seat while selling the entire State down the River of SHIT McAwfull created when he stole his election.

Illegals are also welcome in Virginia. They are just as welcome as the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS groups who have acres of property in FENCED Communities all over the state. But McAWFULL endorsed all the ILLEGAL VOTES he can get to enhance the SOCIALIST idea's he supports so well.


That is kind of rough. I understand 'States Rights', but since when can a state governor
over-ride Federal statues prohibiting convicted felons to vote?

Would they have to be recognized as a federal felon? I am not sure there is a distinction.

[Atticus Finch]

I'm staying off of the Trump/Cruz merry-go-round.I will say this though,outside his 35%-40% approval rating by Repubs he is in big trouble if he gets the nom.The man is too feared and hated.Although recently I've seen him walk back some of his earlier hard line stances.I personally think we are being played, and like Forrest Gump says,"that's all I've got to say about that".

[Tyr-Ziu Saxnot]

I'm staying off of the Trump/Cruz merry-go-round.I will say this though,outside his 35%-40% approval rating by Repubs he is in big trouble if he gets the nom.The man is too feared and hated.Although recently I've seen him walk back some of his earlier hard line stances.I personally think we are being played, and like Forrest Gump says,"that's all I've got to say about that".

Careful now. If ya truly do not want to be involved in the trump hate-fest/controversy(?), I would suggest try not starting out by hitting him with comments like he is too feared and hated as if Cruz and/or Hillary are not in the same boat.
My uncle used to say, "Man, I aint gonna talk bad about that gal----but she sho'nuff is butt ugly."
I a kid all of 12 years old would say, "but you just did.."-- ;) -Tyr

[Atticus Finch]

Careful now. If ya truly do not want to be involved in the trump hate-fest/controversy(?), I would suggest try not starting out by hitting him with comments like he is too feared and hated as if Cruz and/or Hillary are not in the same boat.
My uncle used to say, "Man, I aint gonna talk bad about that gal----but she sho'nuff is butt ugly."
I a kid all of 12 years old would say, "but you just did.."-- ;) -TyrYeah it's like a vortex it just keeps sucking you in...so who's left....Bernie?

[Gunny]

That is kind of rough. I understand 'States Rights', but since when can a state governor
over-ride Federal statues prohibiting convicted felons to vote?

Would they have to be recognized as a federal felon? I am not sure there is a distinction.

I could be wrong, but I believe voting rights are decided by states, not the Fed. Gun ownership is decided by the Fed for convicted felons. I think the states decide who can vote.

At the same time, I don't see how a state governor can amke a unilateral decision like that. Sure as Hell can't in TX. They have to go through the state congress in our little mini-country just like they used to do in Fed gov't.

[Kathianne]

I could be wrong, but I believe voting rights are decided by states, not the Fed. Gun ownership is decided by the Fed for convicted felons. I think the states decide who can vote.

At the same time, I don't see how a state governor can amke a unilateral decision like that. Sure as Hell can't in TX. They have to go through the state congress in our little mini-country just like they used to do in Fed gov't.

I think what you think-states decide. Wiki agrees:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_disenfranchisement


In the U.S., the constitution implicitly permits the States to adopt rules about disenfranchisement "for participation in rebellion, or other crime", by the fourteenth amendment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitu tion), section 2. It is up to the states to decide which crimes could be ground for disenfranchisement, and they are not formally bound to restrict this to felonies; however, in most cases, they do.[citation needed (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] Felons are allowed to vote in most states of the US. Between 1996 and 2008 twenty-eight states changed their laws on felon voting rights, mostly to restore rights or to simplify the process of restoration. Since 2008 state laws have continued to shift, both curtailing and restoring voter rights, sometimes over short periods of time within the same state.[6]
(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felony_disenfranchisement#cite_note-6)

[Kathianne]

I could be wrong, but I believe voting rights are decided by states, not the Fed. Gun ownership is decided by the Fed for convicted felons. I think the states decide who can vote.

At the same time, I don't see how a state governor can amke a unilateral decision like that. Sure as Hell can't in TX. They have to go through the state congress in our little mini-country just like they used to do in Fed gov't.

Found an answer of sorts regarding unilateral-the infamous 'executive action,' which means that it's good for this election at least.

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/04/22/hillary-poised-to-lock-up-the-felon-vote-in-virginia/

[Elessar]

Thanks Kath and Gunny.

That did clarify it some.

I still feel it is an underhanded way of seeking one-minded
votes. The Dem's must really be desperate!

[Kathianne]

Thanks Kath and Gunny.

That did clarify it some.

I still feel it is an underhanded way of seeking one-minded
votes. The Dem's must really be desperate!

They always try to maximize their votes, always. They always call 'voter fraud' on the part of the opposition. Rules that work 'for them' are not to be changed, only those that minimize their success.

[DLT]

Yeah it's like a vortex it just keeps sucking you in...so who's left....Bernie?

I think the fix is definitely in for the DemocRATS to win, possibly it all, this year. God help us.

[Atticus Finch]

I think the fix is definitely in for the DemocRATS to win, possibly it all, this year. God help us.He's only one who can...but then again maybe we have it comin'.....:dunno:

[aboutime]

Though I fully realize most of you will either laugh, or completely ignore my words here.

I am convinced now. There ARE ENOUGH uneducated, generally easily-led, selfish, voter-age young, and minority people in this nation today to....ELECT BERNIE, or HILLARY.

The Republicans are so busy shooting each other at this point. They are prepared to give away VICTORY in trade for the DEFEAT those UNEDUCATED AMERICANS DEPEND UPON.

Now, I will simply watch how so many others here take my words, and use them in a different form.