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jimnyc
05-09-2016, 04:36 PM
I know the polls say Donald Trump cannot win. But what if we are looking at the wrong poll question?

What if Trump’s overwhelming negatives don’t matter? Or, to put it another way, what if the country’s negatives matter more?

Right now, about 6 in 10 Americans have an unfavorable view of Trump, and only 36 percent view him positively.

But the country is faring even worse. In the most recent average of polls calculated by RealClearPolitics, 26.9 percent of Americans think the nation is headed in the right direction and 64.9 percent think we are heading down the wrong track.

So what if even voters who respect Hillary Clinton’s competence reject her as the embodiment of business as usual? And what if even voters who do not like Trump’s bigotry or bluster care more that he will, in their view, shake things up?

Sure, these voters might tell themselves, he may be crude, or inconsistent, or ill-informed. He may insult women and Hispanics and other groups. But it’s part of a shtick. He probably doesn’t mean half of it. He’s just an entertainer. The desire to send a message of disgust or disapproval, in other words, could lead voters to overlook, discount, wish away or excuse many Trump sins.

Meanwhile, Clinton cannot shake free of the status quo. You may remember how this bedeviled Al Gore when he asked voters to give the Democratic Party a third straight presidential term in 2000. The vice president managed to achieve the worst of both worlds, alienating Bill Clinton and his most ardent supporters without establishing himself as an entirely new brand.

Unlike Gore, Hillary Clinton is not an incumbent. But she is no less associated with the establishment, having served as first lady, U.S. senator and secretary of state over the past quarter-century. Even if she were inclined to do so, she could not afford to distance herself from President Obama, whose backers she will need to turn out in large numbers.

Rest here - https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/democrats-dont-celebrate-trumps-nomination-fear-it/2016/05/08/0ce784e4-13a7-11e6-93ae-50921721165d_story.html

Kathianne
05-09-2016, 04:51 PM
I actually agree with the premise, which is why he may well win in November.

Atticus Finch
05-09-2016, 06:32 PM
There's no place like home.....There's no place like home.....There's no place like home

Elessar
05-09-2016, 07:10 PM
Actually, I have a great deal of disdain for polls and the published results.

Most are written in such a way to guide a responder to a desired result.
Many will target only a small facet of the voters.

gabosaurus
05-09-2016, 07:58 PM
Sure, these voters might tell themselves, he may be crude, or inconsistent, or ill-informed. He may insult women and Hispanics and other groups. But it’s part of a shtick. He probably doesn’t mean half of it. He’s just an entertainer. The desire to send a message of disgust or disapproval, in other words, could lead voters to overlook, discount, wish away or excuse many Trump sins.


The WaPo writer is inflating the intelligence of the average American voter. Most won't take the time to figure out if Trump is jiving them or not. They see him as a bad insult comedian. Or as someone who can run a business, but doesn't have a clue how to run a large country.

And Trump attacking Hilary as an "enabler?" Bad move. I don't think Trump realizes how many women are stuck in bad marriages where they have to keep a straight face for social reasons. Let's say your hubby is a prominent minister, civic leader or other important person. You don't want to destroy your family just to expose your philandering partner. It's out there.
Slick Willie had to lie out his ass umpteen times to keep his affairs out of the news. If Trump is elected, he will have an open curtain call for bimbos. It might become a reality show. :boobies:

aboutime
05-09-2016, 08:56 PM
The WaPo writer is inflating the intelligence of the average American voter. Most won't take the time to figure out if Trump is jiving them or not. They see him as a bad insult comedian. Or as someone who can run a business, but doesn't have a clue how to run a large country.

And Trump attacking Hilary as an "enabler?" Bad move. I don't think Trump realizes how many women are stuck in bad marriages where they have to keep a straight face for social reasons. Let's say your hubby is a prominent minister, civic leader or other important person. You don't want to destroy your family just to expose your philandering partner. It's out there.
Slick Willie had to lie out his ass umpteen times to keep his affairs out of the news. If Trump is elected, he will have an open curtain call for bimbos. It might become a reality show. :boobies:


Thank you gabby. Thank you for finally explaining what YOU and millions of other loyal, brainwashed Liberals did TWICE, when all of you voted for Obama.
I enjoy listening, and reading how miserable liberals like you get when you spend so much time TRYING TO CONVINCE YOURSELVES everything you are ranting about...is true.

Nothing exposes liberal attempts at Reverse Psychology, being Reversed by the Liberals who invented political FIBBING, LYING, FABRICATIONS, and general Stupidity.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. See how Honesty works for you?

Elessar
05-09-2016, 10:44 PM
And Trump attacking Hilary as an "enabler?" Bad move. I don't think Trump realizes how many women are stuck in bad marriages where they have to keep a straight face for social reasons. Let's say your hubby is a prominent minister, civic leader or other important person. You don't want to destroy your family just to expose your philandering partner. It's out there.
Slick Willie had to lie out his ass umpteen times to keep his affairs out of the news.

No, Gabby. If she was not so power-hungry to stick to the name and marriage, she would have
kicked him to the curb long ago. She did not destroy the family...he did.

But her ambition, excuses, and deceit have carried on. That is a train-wreck of a pair.

indago
05-10-2016, 10:04 AM
There's going to be HELL to pay...