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Elessar
05-15-2016, 12:04 AM
I think is high time that the 'Think Tank' on Capitol Hill woke up
and smelled the coffee.

Our current (p)Resident is too concerned with appeasing rather
than dismantling this threat. You don't stuff flowers and money
down gun barrels of aggressors and come out winning. Only brute
force will clean up this global scourge.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/congress-war-powers-donald-trump_us_57363557e4b08f96c1833708?ir=WorldPost&section=us_world&utm_hp_ref=world

namvet
05-15-2016, 08:58 AM
I hope that means unrestricted warfare against the DNC

Gunny
05-15-2016, 02:49 PM
I think is high time that the 'Think Tank' on Capitol Hill woke up
and smelled the coffee.

Our current (p)Resident is too concerned with appeasing rather
than dismantling this threat. You don't stuff flowers and money
down gun barrels of aggressors and come out winning. Only brute
force will clean up this global scourge.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/congress-war-powers-donald-trump_us_57363557e4b08f96c1833708?ir=WorldPost&section=us_world&utm_hp_ref=world

I disagree with the premise of the OP. We have no balance of power.

As far as sticking flowers in gun barrels goes, you ought to know which side of THAT argument I'm on.:sniper:

revelarts
05-15-2016, 03:09 PM
So the constitution does not matter as far as war powers are concerned anymore.
Only on the 2nd amendment does the constitution still mean what it says.
got it.

Black Diamond
05-15-2016, 03:18 PM
So the constitution does not matter as far as war powers are concerned anymore.
Only on the 2nd amendment does the constitution still mean what it says.
got it.




Ask Lincoln and FDR the following doesn't apply to you but you ask the left who the best presidents are. Lincoln is usually #1. FDR #2. Trump's idea about Arabs doesn't go anywhere near as far as they did yet trump is the devil

revelarts
05-15-2016, 03:26 PM
Ask Lincoln and FDR the following doesn't apply to you but you ask the left who the best presidents are. Lincoln is usually #1. FDR #2. Trump's idea about Arabs doesn't go anywhere near as far as they did yet trump is the devil

So are you a fan of the unconstitutional acts of lincoln and FDR too?

gabosaurus
05-15-2016, 08:55 PM
FDR was a pretty shifty guy who knew how to get what he wanted, which was total American involvement in WWII.
Public sentiment against entering the war? Easy, just ignore warnings and allow the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor.
Some say GW Bush used the same strategy to start the war that he wanted.

I would think it will depend on who is in Congress and how they react at that to decide whether Trump could expand the war. Especially since the vast majority of Americans are against it.
Global terrorism is a genie that has already been let out of the bottle. There is no way anyone is going to defeat it. Especially in short order. It is too wide spread. Cut of a snake's head and 10 more grow in its place.
Does Trump think he is going to be allow to attack Iran? How about Pakistan? Or Saudi Arabia?
How will Trump deal with the lack of domestic support his actions would provoke? Protests would paralyze every major American city.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
05-15-2016, 09:37 PM
FDR was a pretty shifty guy who knew how to get what he wanted, which was total American involvement in WWII.
Public sentiment against entering the war? Easy, just ignore warnings and allow the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor.
Some say GW Bush used the same strategy to start the war that he wanted.

I would think it will depend on who is in Congress and how they react at that to decide whether Trump could expand the war. Especially since the vast majority of Americans are against it.
Global terrorism is a genie that has already been let out of the bottle. There is no way anyone is going to defeat it. Especially in short order. It is too wide spread. Cut of a snake's head and 10 more grow in its place.
Does Trump think he is going to be allow to attack Iran? How about Pakistan? Or Saudi Arabia?
How will Trump deal with the lack of domestic support his actions would provoke? Protests would paralyze every major American city.


Cut of a snake's head and 10 more grow in its place.

We are hellbent on not ever striking the head--the damn head is the ffing religion=== ISLAM!!!
WE PLAY AT CUTTING OF TINY TAILS, KNOWING ThEY WILL JUST BE REGROWN!


There is no way anyone is going to defeat it.

TRUE, ONLY IF WE KEEP ON REFUSING TO HIT THE DAMN HEAD!
And that insane, nation destroying refusal is insured by the dem party, globalists and our other enemies around the world.
As they care not who destroys us just as long as we are destroyed!

You simply can not gain victory if you never hit to destroy the power and mechanism that births and maintains it........
Islam must be seen for what it TRULY, TRULY IS--not what it and its appeasers spend billions fooling the world into believing that it is...

When I wanted to stomp a guy I didnt start by spitting on his little brother or his dog.
I went straight to him and busted his damn head, he goes down wakes up later and remembers who the hell not to piss off!

Libs/dems/socialists and other morons/appeasers help Islam as its their damn ally!! Fact, indisputable fact to anybody that actually looks for the truth.. ..-Tyr

namvet
05-15-2016, 09:56 PM
FDR allowing Pearl to be bombed is pure BS. he liked sailors and frequently boated with the Navy. no way in hell was he going to kill them. park this under conspiracy theory

gabosaurus
05-15-2016, 11:25 PM
FDR allowing Pearl to be bombed is pure BS. he liked sailors and frequently boated with the Navy. no way in hell was he going to kill them. park this under conspiracy theory

Read into it a bit more. You might be surprised. Remember that collateral damage has always been an accepted part of warfare.

namvet
05-16-2016, 08:16 AM
http://i66.tinypic.com/s2elc9.jpg

fj1200
05-16-2016, 12:21 PM
Unrestrained war powers = good as long as it's our guy?

Gunny
05-16-2016, 01:51 PM
Unrestrained war powers = good as long as it's our guy?

I would disagree with that. We're supposed to have a balance of power. Currently, we have a pseudo-monarch. What is the point to this country if we're just going to have another king?

I've bitched about the Supreme Court for decades. They legislate from the bench. The checks and balances are supposed to be there.

Conversely, the inaction of Congress is just BS. They're collecting a check. They contrive stupid and pointless crap but actually do nothing.

Kathianne
05-16-2016, 05:18 PM
I think is high time that the 'Think Tank' on Capitol Hill woke up
and smelled the coffee.

Our current (p)Resident is too concerned with appeasing rather
than dismantling this threat. You don't stuff flowers and money
down gun barrels of aggressors and come out winning. Only brute
force will clean up this global scourge.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/congress-war-powers-donald-trump_us_57363557e4b08f96c1833708?ir=WorldPost&section=us_world&utm_hp_ref=world

My reading of the article is that Congress is fine with having the President, any president take all the credit/blame for any war actions. It's been the same since Korea.

fj1200
05-17-2016, 09:35 AM
I would disagree with that. We're supposed to have a balance of power. Currently, we have a pseudo-monarch. What is the point to this country if we're just going to have another king?

I've bitched about the Supreme Court for decades. They legislate from the bench. The checks and balances are supposed to be there.

Conversely, the inaction of Congress is just BS. They're collecting a check. They contrive stupid and pointless crap but actually do nothing.

You can't disagree with a question! :slap:

Actually we're on the same page, and I thanked your post, :mad: j/k We are supposed to have a balance but neither the Constitution nor Congress are what they once were.

NightTrain
05-17-2016, 09:54 AM
FDR was a pretty shifty guy who knew how to get what he wanted, which was total American involvement in WWII.
Public sentiment against entering the war? Easy, just ignore warnings and allow the Japanese to bomb Pearl Harbor.
Some say GW Bush used the same strategy to start the war that he wanted.

You're so full of shit.


I would think it will depend on who is in Congress and how they react at that to decide whether Trump could expand the war. Especially since the vast majority of Americans are against it.
Global terrorism is a genie that has already been let out of the bottle. There is no way anyone is going to defeat it. Especially in short order. It is too wide spread. Cut of a snake's head and 10 more grow in its place.
Does Trump think he is going to be allow to attack Iran? How about Pakistan? Or Saudi Arabia?
How will Trump deal with the lack of domestic support his actions would provoke? Protests would paralyze every major American city.

You're right. Do we have enough white flags to go around?

It's a damn good thing that people like you weren't around with your cowardly & defeatist attitude when the Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Civil War, Spanish War, WWI and WWII erupted. We'd have been conquered at least a dozen times by now and probably ruled by Albania today.

Are you of French descent, perchance?

DLT
05-17-2016, 10:42 AM
I think is high time that the 'Think Tank' on Capitol Hill woke up
and smelled the coffee.

Our current (p)Resident is too concerned with appeasing rather
than dismantling this threat. You don't stuff flowers and money
down gun barrels of aggressors and come out winning. Only brute
force will clean up this global scourge.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/congress-war-powers-donald-trump_us_57363557e4b08f96c1833708?ir=WorldPost&section=us_world&utm_hp_ref=world

On the other hand, you don't give 'unrestrained' powers to a narcissist/egotist that has a trigger/foul temper like Obama OR like Trump. That's how nations get nuked. I'm just surprised we haven't already been. Of course, it's not over yet. Barry still has work to do. Perhaps Barry is hoping it will be timed for Hillary's inauguration.

Gunny
05-17-2016, 11:33 AM
You're so full of shit.



You're right. Do we have enough white flags to go around?

It's a damn good thing that people like you weren't around with your cowardly & defeatist attitude when the Revolutionary War, War of 1812, Civil War, Spanish War, WWI and WWII erupted. We'd have been conquered at least a dozen times by now and probably ruled by Albania today.

Are you of French descent, perchance?

:laugh: