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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
05-16-2016, 12:18 AM
List of Abrogations in the Qur'an
From WikiIslam, the online resource on Islam
The verses on the left are the abrogated verses (Mansūkh) of the Qur'an, while the verses on the right are the abrogating verses (Nāsikh).

The "Verse of the Sword" refers to Quran 9:5, and due to how many verses it abrogates (about 113),[1][2] we will write "Verse of the Sword" in place of this verse:
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.
Qur'an 9:5
Surah:
2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 13 | 15 | 16 | 17 | 19 | 20 | 22 | 23 | 24 | 25 | 26 | 27 | 28 | 29 | 30 | 31 | 32 | 33 | 34 | 35 | 36 | 37 | 38 | 40 | 41 | 42 | 43 | 44 | 45 | 46 | 47 | 50 | 51 | 52 | 53 | 54 | 56 | 58 | 60 | 68 | 70 | 73 | 74 | 75 | 76 | 80 | 81 | 86 | 88 | 95 | 103 | 109

read complete list at the link.
Each verse is given and beside it the later verse that abrogates it,
first first is given was written to deceive the infidels , later verses are the real verses the muslims are taught are true and are commanded to be obeyed.
From the start Islam was a lie and a cult founded by its child molesting demi-god prophet Mohamcrap.

When Jafar was here he loved and likely got great delight giving these deceiving verses to try to present Islam as being entirely peaceful.
All the while knowing the abrogating verses were the commanded verses true muslims obey and that true muslims are taughtto lie to deceive the infidels!
Once Jafar was totally exposed here he shot away from here like a bullet as he could no longer lie to advance the cause of Islam.
So why waste time here when he could join another site to lie for Allah!!!!!
Which is why I was on his case from the get go here.. And I caught much flak for knowing he was lying fraud and my opposing him so steadfastly..-Tyr

gabosaurus
05-16-2016, 12:22 AM
You spend a lot of time reading these anti-Islam hate sites. Have you ever conversed with a real Islamic scholar? Or are you afraid or distrustful of them?

http://www.answeringislamicskeptics.com/wiki-islam-debunked.html

darin
05-16-2016, 03:06 AM
Few fallacies about any holy scripture: Assuming every instruction to every person in a particular context is tantamount to an instruction for all subsequent followers for all time.

The problem is - Islamists and those who claim Christ do that very thing - the difference is, no Christians follow the "kill Kill KILL!!" parts of the Bible. Islam? Too many do.

Drummond
05-16-2016, 05:25 AM
You spend a lot of time reading these anti-Islam hate sites. Have you ever conversed with a real Islamic scholar? Or are you afraid or distrustful of them?

http://www.answeringislamicskeptics.com/wiki-islam-debunked.html

... and 9/11 never happened. 7/7, ditto. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc. Etc.

Terrorist atrocities happen - as another long-running thread here proves in enormous detail - just about every day. They are done in the name of Islam. Now, Lefties (and many Muslims who want to sanitise their religion and con us all) claim that none of it is truly representative of Islam. Yet ... there are so many terrorist groups out there, in so many parts of the world, who ALL find cause for what they do from that creed.

Do you find the same thing from Christianity ? A plethora of terrorist groups bombing, mutilating, killing, for Jesus .. ??

Gabby, you're an apologist Leftie. Lefties across the world are utterly determined to view Islam, and to insist that everyone does it, using rose-coloured spectacles.

WHY ??

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
05-16-2016, 08:55 AM
You spend a lot of time reading these anti-Islam hate sites. Have you ever conversed with a real Islamic scholar? Or are you afraid or distrustful of them?

http://www.answeringislamicskeptics.com/wiki-islam-debunked.html


https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/new-america-study-2015.aspx

"Right-Wing" vs Islamic Terrorists
Debunking the 2015 New America Study and the myth
that America's 'Right-Wing' is a greater threat than Islam

by Glen Roberts, Editor TROP
July 19th, 2015

Shortly after a racist walked into a Charleston church and gunned down nine innocent people in June, a group called "The New America Foundation" released a study appearing to show that "right-wing" terrorists have killed more people in the United States than "Jihadists" since 9/11. The count, according to New America, is (or was) Jihadists: 26; Right-Wingers: 48. A few weeks later, a Muslim supremacist murdered five US servicemen in Chattanooga - presumably changing the count to 31 and 48, respectively.

This has been broadly interpreted in the media to mean either that "right-wing" ideology is more dangerous than Islamism, or that "right-wingers" (or conservatives, or "white Americans" as several headlines put it) are more dangerous than Muslim extremists in America.

The obvious problem with the study is that it does not include the largest terror attack on American soil, which occurred on September 11, 2001. If the count began one day earlier, then it would be 3027 to 48 and any question as to which is the larger threat would be laughable. In other words, ignoring reality can lead to different conclusions than when it is taken into account.

But it isn't just the body count from 9/11 that throws off an accurate comparison. Because of that attack, counter-terrorism in the United States has focused disproportionately on the Muslim fringe rather than the "right-wing." Theoretically, this means that it is harder for an Islamic radical to commit a deadly attack than someone else. In fact, the same study shows that significantly more Muslim than non-Muslim terrorists have been charged and jailed with plotting terror in the US since 9/11. Fewer terrorists free to commit attacks means fewer attacks, which distorts a results-based comparison of dead bodies.

Another problem with the study is that it doesnít define the pool of potential terrorists, which would make it more meaningful. Muslims make up less than 1% of America, of which only about 25% believe in violence. How is the other side defined, given that over 98% of the population is non-Muslim?

The smallest definable group of "right-wingers" (fortunately) seem to be racists. A somewhat disturbing 2013 poll showed that as many as 13% of Americans do not approve of interracial marriage. But some of the attacks on New Americaís "right-wing" side of the list (such as the 2010 Austin, TX plane incident and 2014 Bloomberg Grove Police shooting) have nothing do with race.

The number of Americans holding "anti-government" views is much larger and encompass both sides of the political spectrum. A Pew poll found that 56% of citizens believe their taxes are too high (odd, since 51% pay no income tax). Even 31% of Democrats have an unfavorable view of the IRS. 30% of Americans also say they are "angry" with the government (while another 55% are "frustrated").

Regardless of how it is defined, the pool of "right-wingers" or those holding anti-government views in the United States is certainly many times greater than even the total number of Muslims, meaning that if only 50% more people are killed by "right-wingers", it actually proves that that are the more peaceful of the two groups.

Some news outlets, such as MSNBC, use the phrase "greater threat" to obfuscate the findings and make it appear as if conservative or anti-government views are more dangerous than Islamic teachings. By this they mean that you are more likely to be killed by a "right-winger" than a Muslim (even if the Muslim is statistically more likely to kill you). This reporting may be technically correct, according to the study, but it is like saying that childbirth is a bigger threat than Ebola.

Contrary to the way it is being presented in the media, the study is not an apples-to-apples comparison between the Islamic and anti-government (or racist) ideologies. A closer look at the "methodology" page shows that New America applies dif

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https://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/articles/10-reasons-not-peace.aspx

Ten Obvious Reasons Why
Islam is Not a Religion of Peace


#1

18,000 deadly terror attacks committed explicitly in the name of Islam in just the last ten years. (Other religions combined for perhaps a dozen or so).

#2

Muhammad, the prophet of Islam, had people killed for insulting him or for criticizing his religion. This included women.

Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

#3

Muhammad said in many places that he has been "ordered by Allah to fight men until they testify that there is no god but Allah and that Muhammad is his messenger." In the last nine years of his life, he ordered no less than 65 military campaigns to do exactly that.

Muhammad inspired his men to war with the basest of motives, using captured loot, sex and a gluttonous paradise as incentives. He beheaded captives, enslaved children and raped women captured in battle. Again, Muslims are told to emulate the example of Muhammad.

#4

After Muhammad died, the people who lived with him and knew his religion best immediately fell into war with each other.

Fatima, Muhammad's favorite daughter, survived the early years among the unbelievers at Mecca safe and sound, yet died of stress from the persecution of fellow Muslims only six months after her father died. She even miscarried Muhammad's grandchild after having her ribs broken by the man who became the second caliph.

It was the same caliph, Umar, who ordered the death of the first convert to Islam at Medina, an elderly leader who became a close companion to Muhammad and proved his worth in battle. Sa'd ibn Ubadah was killed after a failed bid to be caliph.

Fatima's husband Ali, who was the second convert to Islam and was raised like a son to Muhammad, fought a civil war against an army raised by Aisha, Muhammad's favorite wife - and one whom he had said was a "perfect woman." 10,000 Muslims were killed in a single battle waged less than 25 years after Muhammad's death.

Three of the first four Muslim rulers (caliphs) were murdered. All of them were among Muhammad's closest companions. The third caliph was killed by allies of the son of the first (who was murdered by the fifth caliph a few years later, then wrapped in the skin of a dead donkey and burned). The fourth caliph (Ali) was stabbed to death after a bitter dispute with the fifth. The fifth caliph went on to poison one of Muhammad's two favorite grandsons. The other grandson was later beheaded by the sixth caliph.

The infighting and power struggles between Muhammad's family members, closest companions and their children only intensified with time. Within 50 short years of Muhammad's death, even the Kaaba, which had stood for centuries under pagan religion, lay in ruins from internal Muslim war...

And that's just the fate of those within the house of Islam!

#5

Muhammad directed Muslims to wage war on other religions and bring them under submission to Islam. Within the first few decades following his death, his Arabian companions invaded and conquered Christian, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist and Zoroastrian lands. A mere 25 years after Muhammad's death, Muslim armies had captured land and people within the borders of over 28 modern countries outside of Saudi Arabia.

#6

Muslims continued their Jihad against other religions for 1400 years, checked only by the ability of non-Muslims to defend themselves. To this day, not a week goes by that Islamic fundamentalists do not attempt to kill Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists explicitly in the name of Allah.

None of these other religions are at war with each other.

#7

Islam is the only religion that has to retain its membership by formally threatening to kill anyone who leaves. This is according to the example set by Muhammad.

#8

Islam teaches that non-Muslims are less than fully human. Muhammad said that Muslims can be put to death for murder, but that a Muslim could never be put to death for killing a non-Muslim.

#9

The Quran never once speaks of Allah's love for non-Muslims, but it speaks of Allah's cruelty toward and hatred of non-Muslims more than 500 times.

#10

"Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar! Allahu Akbar!"
(The last words from the cockpit of Flight 93)
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#6

Muslims continued their Jihad against other religions for 1400 years, checked only by the ability of non-Muslims to defend themselves. To this day, not a week goes by that Islamic fundamentalists do not attempt to kill Christians, Jews, Hindus and Buddhists explicitly in the name of Allah.

None of these other religions are at war with each other.

^^^^^ PAY ATTENTION GABBY..... Only Islam wages war across the globe in an attempt to murder unto submission all other religions.-Tyr

gabosaurus
05-16-2016, 11:25 AM
There you go again...

"The Religion of Peace" is another hate site. You can quote it all you want and it will mean zip. Nothing.

Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
05-16-2016, 03:11 PM
There you go again...

"The Religion of Peace" is another hate site. You can quote it all you want and it will mean zip. Nothing.
Abrogated verses teach them to do this to infidels--documented proof not lies Gabby.



http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/14493090.Chef_found_with_bottle_covered_in_fecal_m atter_in_his_kitchen_banned_from_running_food_busi nesses/

Chef found with bottle covered in fecal matter in his kitchen banned from running food businesses

A CURRY chef who stored an empty milk bottle he used for washing his backside in the kitchen has been banned from running a restaurant.

A senior environmental heath officer felt physically sick when she found Mahbub Chowdhury had the two pint plastic Tesco container stored under the sink.

And when she quizzed him about the container, which had brown finger marks on the outside of it, he said he didnít use toilet paper Ďfor cultural reasonsí.

The 46-year-old was the sole trader in the restaurant and takeaway at Yeahya Flavour Of Asia, based in the Nine Elms pub on Old Shaw Lane.

Hows that for peaceful muzzy ?????
Prepping food for infidels with shit on his hands....
Of course you'd eat there --not believing this story--right???????????
I hope you haven't been eating at any muzzy restaurants lately....... -Tyr

darin
05-17-2016, 03:24 AM
There you go again...

"The Religion of Peace" is another hate site. You can quote it all you want and it will mean zip. Nothing.

There you go - attacking the source instead of the data. You're a lying loser.