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Tyr-Ziu Saxnot
05-25-2016, 09:02 AM
http://www.historyfanatic.com/slideshows/these-31-world-war-ii-facts-will-blow-your-mind/40/


WW2 MILITARY FACTS
These World War 2 Facts Will Leave You Speechless


Adrian Carton de Wiart

Adrian Carton de Wiart served in the Boer War, First World War, and Second World War. He was shot in the face, head, stomach, ankle, leg, hip, and ear; survived two plane crashes; tunnelled out of a prisoner-of-war camp; and tore off his own fingers when a doctor refused to amputate them. What a survivor!
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Pilots would intercept V-1 flying bombs and tip them over with their wingtips causing them to crash.
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The first bomb dropped on Berlin killed the only elephant in the Zoo in Berlin.
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Russia forced convicts to run through minefields to clear them ahead of advancing troops.
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Lesley J. McNair, the highest-ranking American officer to be killed during World War 2.
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Total casualties for World War II are estimated between 50 and 70 million people. 80% of those came from just four countries: Russia, China, Germany, and Poland.
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More than 16,000,000 American troops served in World War II. Of these, 405,000 were killed during the war.
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Hiroo Onoda, an Imperial Japanese Army intelligence officer who fought in World War II, held his position in the Philippines and refused to surrender until 1974. His former commander traveled from Japan to personally issue orders relieving him from duty.
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Adolf Hitler’s nephew, William Hitler, served in the U.S. Navy during World War II.
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Only 20% of the males born in the Soviet Union in 1923 survived the war.
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Japan occupied U.S. territory for more than a year, invading and holding two islands in the Aleutian Island chain, which is part of Alaska. Nearly 1,500 American troops were killed in 13 months of fighting to retake the islands.

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20% of Poland’s population died during World War II, the highest percentage of any nation.
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Some of the first Germans captured during the invasion of Normandy weren’t German at all, they were Korean. These soldiers had been forced to fight for the Japanese army until they were captured by the Russians, who forced them to fight for the Russian army. They were later captured by the Germans and forced to fight as German troops.
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Germany officially declared war on just one nation in World War II: The United States of America.

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Adrian Carton de Wiart

Man has created some of the toughest sons of bitches on the face of the planet through both real events and fiction over and over again throughout history. In the movies we have Rambo, Terminator, and James Bond. In video games, Master Chief, Snake, and Duke Nuke’em. Through reality we had George Washington, the man who killed Osama Bin Laden, and King Leonidas. Yet somehow throughout the course of history, what is possibly the manliest of men to have walked the face of this planet, seems to have slipped through the cracks of the system and remains rather anonymous. I am talking about none other than Adrian Carton de Wiart.

For those who aren’t aware as to how badass this man truly is, here’s a sample of the first paragraph from his Wikipedia page.

Sir Adrian Paul Ghislain Carton de Wiart (5 May 1880 – 5 June 1963), was a British Army officer of Belgian and Irish descent. He served in the Boer War, First World War, and Second World War; was shot in the face, head, stomach, ankle, leg, hip, and ear; survived a plane crash; tunnelled out of a POW camp; and bit off his own fingers when a doctor refused to amputate them. He later wrote that “Frankly I had enjoyed the war” when describing his service in the First World War.

Excuse me for a minute. The man was shot in his face, head stomach, ankle, leg, hip, ear, survived a crash, escaped a POW camp, bit off his own fingers, and then said he enjoyed the war. I don’t think there is a single man on the planet since the days of King Leonidas who would have been bold enough to make that statement, none-the-less actually mean it.

With his black eye patch and empty sleeve, Carton de Wiart looked like an elegant pirate, and became a figure of legend.

It’s kind of hard to argue with his look, but then to even further amplify the level of awesomeness this man achieved in life comes through with the level of alpha he displayed among his comrades.

Carton de Wiart’s serious wound in the Boer War instilled in him a strong desire for physical fitness and he ran, jogged, walked, and played sports on a regular basis. In male company he was a delightful character and must hold the world record for bad language.

Basically he embodied everything that is manly. And of his escapades, the only real thing mentioned of him is that he had a wife who was 23 years younger than him. Although most of us now would laugh at marriage, looking at his time frame it was the norm, and hey at least he can be commended for picking up someone far younger than himself.

Carton de Wiart was also a man whom participated in both World Wars. While most men were battered into mush from the effects of PTSD, this man had enough testicular fortitude to both forge his way through two of the worst wars in history while continuing to live his life as he pleased until his death. For that I commend him. And while his life itself tended to embark upon several significant events, I’d rather keep this as a general overview, hoping to inspire some reading upon you as to whom this great man really was. And so with that I’ll just resolve this post with a quote of his.

Governments may think and say as they like, but force cannot be eliminated, and it is the only real and unanswerable power. We are told that the pen is mightier than the sword, but I know which of these weapons I would choose.



A few comments made about the article...


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Hammer • 3 years ago

This is one of the most enjoyable articles I've read here. I've certainly never heard of him til now and I'm glad I did

Wyald Hammer • a year ago

I suggest looking into Grutte Pier and Gotz Von Berlichingen. Countless rebellions, sea battles, castle sieges, raiding and killing.. Ever wanted to know where the expression "kiss my ass" came from? Look no further. The Imperial Knights were rank with masculinity and mercilessness.

Libertas • 3 years ago

This. ROK needs more articles detailing historical figures- men that can bring us inspiration in a culture devoid of strong masculine examples to emulate, and less articles talking about shit that we already know like how game is necessary. I'd never heard of this guy before, despite my interest in military history. People that denigrate the shortness and lack of creativity should understand that it's probably nothing more than a brief introduction to make readers aware of the man.

In a similar wrote an article about John Churchill, Duke of Marlborough for submission to ROK, but haven't heard back from Samseau just yet. If anyone would like to read it (I'd appreciate it and any feedback), I've put it on my own new blog:


Guest Libertas • 3 years ago

"men that can bring us inspiration in a culture devoid of strong masculine examples to emulate." so true.

Koevoet Libertas • 3 years ago

Seconded. The Duke of Marlborough is an interesting guy. I'd love to know more about him. I think Roosh had a post about Xenophon at one point - another amazing man of history. For my contribution to the great men I would add Bob Denard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B...

Libertas Koevoet • 3 years ago

It's pretty unfortunate. He's very underrated because there are so few things ever written or shows made about him. As I said in my entry, you likely won't know who he is if you don't study military history.

Never heard of that guy either. I suggest doing an entry, whether that be here or a personal site or blog.



Sir Adrian Paul Ghislain Carton de Wiart (5 May 1880 – 5 June 1963), was a British Army officer of Belgian and Irish descent. He served in the Boer War, First World War, and Second World War; was shot in the face, head, stomach, ankle, leg, hip, and ear; survived a plane crash; tunnelled out of a POW camp; and bit off his own fingers when a doctor refused to amputate them. He later wrote that “Frankly I had enjoyed the war” when describing his service in the First World War.

Try telling me that this man was not bad to the bone!!!!!!
Damn sure worthy to be admired even by Viking, Native American warrior standards or that of the U.S. MARINE CORPS IMHO.--Tyr

Gunny
05-25-2016, 09:32 AM
WW2 MILITARY FACTS
These World War 2 Facts Will Leave You Speechless


Adrian Carton de Wiart

Adrian Carton de Wiart served in the Boer War, First World War, and Second World War. He was shot in the face, head, stomach, ankle, leg, hip, and ear; survived two plane crashes; tunnelled out of a prisoner-of-war camp; and tore off his own fingers when a doctor refused to amputate them. What a survivor!
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Pilots would intercept V-1 flying bombs and tip them over with their wingtips causing them to crash.
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The first bomb dropped on Berlin killed the only elephant in the Zoo in Berlin.
------------------------------------------

Russia forced convicts to run through minefields to clear them ahead of advancing troops.
------------------------------------------

Lesley J. McNair, the highest-ranking American officer to be killed during World War 2.
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Total casualties for World War II are estimated between 50 and 70 million people. 80% of those came from just four countries: Russia, China, Germany, and Poland.
------------------------------------------

More than 16,000,000 American troops served in World War II. Of these, 405,000 were killed during the war.
---------------------------------------------

Hiroo Onoda, an Imperial Japanese Army intelligence officer who fought in World War II, held his position in the Philippines and refused to surrender until 1974. His former commander traveled from Japan to personally issue orders relieving him from duty.
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Adolf Hitler’s nephew, William Hitler, served in the U.S. Navy during World War II.
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Only 20% of the males born in the Soviet Union in 1923 survived the war.
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Japan occupied U.S. territory for more than a year, invading and holding two islands in the Aleutian Island chain, which is part of Alaska. Nearly 1,500 American troops were killed in 13 months of fighting to retake the islands.

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20% of Poland’s population died during World War II, the highest percentage of any nation.
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Some of the first Germans captured during the invasion of Normandy weren’t German at all, they were Korean. These soldiers had been forced to fight for the Japanese army until they were captured by the Russians, who forced them to fight for the Russian army. They were later captured by the Germans and forced to fight as German troops.
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Germany officially declared war on just one nation in World War II: The United States of America.

MORE AT LINK--TOTAL 106 FACTS..


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Try telling me that this man was not bad to the bone!!!!!!
Damn sure worthy to be admired even by Viking, Native American warrior standards or that of the U.S. MARINE CORPS IMHO.--Tyr

What's sad to me is I knew every one of those facts. But kids nowadays are like "WW WHAT?" They think the Avengers are real and will save us.

When you watch the show about Sparta on the History Channel the guy says "imagine if the Marine Corps had its own country". I crack up every time I see it. But if the Marine Corps was running THIS country, we would not be in debt and we ignore whiners. Might as well leave. No handouts. Get a job.

glockmail
05-26-2016, 05:04 PM
Adolf Hitler’s nephew, William Hitler, served in the U.S. Navy during World War II.

Now I bet those were some interesting conversations. :laugh:

namvet
05-27-2016, 12:35 PM
traitors don't forget traitors

http://truthfeed.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/800x416xObamaShinzo-800x416.png.pagespeed.ic.cy2ShBXp5G.jpg

gabosaurus
05-27-2016, 01:56 PM
What really leaves me speechless is that it could happen again.

http://www.reunionblackfamily.com/trump_hitler_985132845.jpg

namvet
05-27-2016, 02:05 PM
yes me to

http://earstohear.net/images/Hillary-Hitler-Individuals.jpg

namvet
05-27-2016, 02:11 PM
http://lyuve.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Hillary_Hitler1-e1302274140544.jpg

https://americaphile.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/hillary-nazi.jpg?w=610

http://i49.tinypic.com/2vb1kcj.jpg#hitler%20hillary%20clinton%20570x238

socialist pigs do think alike

namvet
05-27-2016, 02:32 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqSOXyUS0ds

http://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/05/30/deathcamp-f14357019f541299face444d2e025d4d876f6d61-s6-c30.jpg

Atticus Finch
05-28-2016, 10:16 AM
to tip a flying bomb with the tip of your aircraft in mid air would take great skill and not to mention, testicles the size of church bells.That's crazy brave, man.

Elessar
05-28-2016, 10:32 AM
What's sad to me is I knew every one of those facts. But kids nowadays are like "WW WHAT?" They think the Avengers are real and will save us.

When you watch the show about Sparta on the History Channel the guy says "imagine if the Marine Corps had its own country". I crack up every time I see it. But if the Marine Corps was running THIS country, we would not be in debt and we ignore whiners. Might as well leave. No handouts. Get a job.

Again, what is really sad is that too many do not bother to read the history that
is so widely available in this cyber-age.

I'd seen all of what was mentioned above simply searching the net. Look up
'WW II Prison Camps', for example, any you'll get an eye full! Most everything
I have read in some of those sites is fact, not opinion.

Gunny
05-28-2016, 11:13 AM
Again, what is really sad is that too many do not bother to read the history that
is so widely available in this cyber-age.

I'd seen all of what was mentioned above simply searching the net. Look up
'WW II Prison Camps', for example, any you'll get an eye full! Most everything
I have read in some of those sites is fact, not opinion.

I honestly learned it in the 69s and 70s reading books. Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet then. :laugh:

namvet
05-28-2016, 11:24 AM
the V2 was a diff animal. it could be moved around on a mobile launcher. much harder to find and kill

http://www.polennieuws.nl/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/V-2_Rocket_On_Meillerwagen.jpg


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/3b/7b/82/3b7b82b346ffdcb0508e16cd488eedfb.jpg

Elessar
05-28-2016, 07:47 PM
I honestly learned it in the 69s and 70s reading books. Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet then. :laugh:

Goof Ball!:lol:

Gunny
05-29-2016, 02:03 PM
to tip a flying bomb with the tip of your aircraft in mid air would take great skill and not to mention, testicles the size of church bells.That's crazy brave, man.

I doubt you could do it now. Remember, everything was LOTS slower then. You had more time to maneuver.

In Vietnam the two most effective close air support planes were the A-6 Skyraider known as "sandies" and the C-130 they called Puff the Magic Dragon. They could go low and slow and had guns. Bother are prop planes.

The Air force had swapped their guns out for missiles. They needed to stick to their day jobs. They suck at CAS. Get your ass back up to 30k ft and dogfight with something. Not much of an issue now with smart bombs, but back then they'd be luck if they even hit the target trying to dogfight with missiles. An Air Force Captain said screw this crap and rigged a chain gun under his wing. Tou quote Lynyrd Skynyrd "Gimme Back My Bullets". :laugh:

It depends upon the mission. The tactic was indeed to get the tip of your wing under a V-1/2. They couldn't hit shit to begin with. They were using gyroscopes to dive them. You tilt a gyroscope and what happens? A prop driven plane had more time to recover than a modern plane would.

namvet
05-29-2016, 02:24 PM
I doubt you could do it now. Remember, everything was LOTS slower then. You had more time to maneuver.

In Vietnam the two most effective close air support planes were the A-6 Skyraider known as "sandies" and the C-130 they called Puff the Magic Dragon. They could go low and slow and had guns. Bother are prop planes.

The Air force had swapped their guns out for missiles. They needed to stick to their day jobs. They suck at CAS. Get your ass back up to 30k ft and dogfight with something. Not much of an issue now with smart bombs, but back then they'd be luck if they even hit the target trying to dogfight with missiles. An Air Force Captain said screw this crap and rigged a chain gun under his wing. Tou quote Lynyrd Skynyrd "Gimme Back My Bullets". :laugh:

It depends upon the mission. The tactic was indeed to get the tip of your wing under a V-1/2. They couldn't hit shit to begin with. They were using gyroscopes to dive them. You tilt a gyroscope and what happens? A prop driven plane had more time to recover than a modern plane would.

I think it was the A-1

http://www.brengun.cz/photos/catalog/BRL48040-1.jpg

Gunny
05-29-2016, 02:28 PM
I think it was the A-1

http://www.brengun.cz/photos/catalog/BRL48040-1.jpg

I was posting off memory. The A-6 was the Intruder. I stand corrected. :)

namvet
05-29-2016, 02:36 PM
I was posting off memory. The A-6 was the Intruder. I stand corrected. :)

we flew that one to. if i remember the Intruder had no gun

namvet
05-29-2016, 02:49 PM
also the F-4 came with no gun as well. the powers that be decided modern air warfare would be with missiles. wrong and dead wrong. close air combat was a reality in Nam which meant the missile was useless close in. so in came the mother of invention. an add on vulcan was added. problem solved

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Lvhsx76tm3s/UJN22QXk_2I/AAAAAAAAc4o/ziNugYyku-M/s640/Gun1.jpg

the powers that be disappeared. another fault was electronic over load. the pilots were constantly looking down inside the cockpit paying more attention to all the alarms bells and whistles going off. totally distracted. this problem was cured by the HUD in later models. the F-4 was the first twin engine 2 seat fighter

Gunny
05-29-2016, 02:57 PM
also the F-4 came with no gun as well. the powers that be decided modern air warfare would be with missiles. wrong and dead wrong. close air combat was a reality in Nam which meant the missile was useless close in. so in came the mother of invention. an add on vulcan was added. problem solved

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Lvhsx76tm3s/UJN22QXk_2I/AAAAAAAAc4o/ziNugYyku-M/s640/Gun1.jpg

the powers that be disappeared. another fault was electronic over load. the pilots were constantly looking down inside the cockpit paying more attention to all the alarms bells and whistles going off. totally distracted. this problem was cured by the HUD in later models. the F-4 was the first twin engine 2 seat fighter

I mentioned that. I just can't remember who did it. And I ain't looking. My best guess is going to be Robbin Olds. Whoever it was said screw this damned noise. The missiles back then sucked. You'd be lucky to hit the sky with them. A case where trying to be technologically brilliant backfired.

namvet
05-29-2016, 03:03 PM
I mentioned that. I just can't remember who did it. And I ain't looking. My best guess is going to be Robbin Olds. Whoever it was said screw this damned noise. The missiles back then sucked. You'd be lucky to hit the sky with them. A case where trying to be technologically brilliant backfired.

tombstone technology

Gunny
05-30-2016, 01:50 AM
tombstone technology

I can't stand change for the sake of change. I loved my M-14. But fuck no. Let's replace it by this made by Mattel toy. I want to reach out and touch your ass at 1000 meters. Replaced my good rifle with a Hot Wheels car. Same with the SAW. I could break down an M-60 in a minute. The SAW is like carrying a bag of bricks. Then I get some jerk instructor telling me I got to hump the 60 at the small of my back. Fuck you, asswipe. I humped it over my shoulders.

These brain sturgeons need to get a damned job where they have to actually do something. They wouldn't have time to think up dumbass shit and stick it on me.

glockmail
05-30-2016, 08:31 PM
I can't stand change for the sake of change. I loved my M-14. But fuck no. Let's replace it by this made by Mattel toy. I want to reach out and touch your ass at 1000 meters. Replaced my good rifle with a Hot Wheels car. Same with the SAW. I could break down an M-60 in a minute. The SAW is like carrying a bag of bricks. Then I get some jerk instructor telling me I got to hump the 60 at the small of my back. Fuck you, asswipe. I humped it over my shoulders.

These brain sturgeons need to get a damned job where they have to actually do something. They wouldn't have time to think up dumbass shit and stick it on me.

What a crybaby you are. LOL

aboutime
05-30-2016, 09:15 PM
I was posting off memory. The A-6 was the Intruder. I stand corrected. :)


Anybody happen to notice the CRAPPER on the wing? By the way. The A-6 became an important SIGNAL/RADAR destroyer for many years. From Nam, to the GULF WAR, and is still in use, but on a limited case now. Most of them were Retired. Too expensive to maintain with the endless SOFTWARE updates, being taken care of by young men, and women who were Born....long after the A-6 took to the service.

Gunny
05-30-2016, 10:50 PM
What a crybaby you are. LOL

The REAL crybabies are the ones that can't hump a real rifle. "It's too heavy". Wah. Grow some arms or go away. But you're missing the point. I don't mind change for the better. I hate change for the sake of change.

But there's nothing for ME to cry about. That crap happened in the first years I was in. First I get an M-16. Then they replace my .45 with a baby bullet thrower. I had to buy new sets of cammies 3 times because they wouldn't quit dicking with them. Had I stayed in one more year I'd been going on my 4th replacement set. And that's not to mention the two different sets of desert camo's I had to get. The there's changing boots all damned time. You know how much I care what color my boots are laying in the sand? Only if they don't blend in.

There's a LOT about this shit you know nothing about. And I am the "keep it simple, stupid" type. I don't need to be spending my training time learning some civilian desk jockey's latest, greatest idea.