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aboutime
07-26-2016, 09:49 PM
http://youtu.be/fcgstHrUwy4

Elessar
07-26-2016, 10:25 PM
http://youtu.be/fcgstHrUwy4


That, and an AC-130 or two is a no-shitter! The idiots that wanted to mothball those planes should be mothballed.

Drummond
07-27-2016, 07:33 AM
That, and an AC-130 or two is a no-shitter! The idiots that wanted to mothball those planes should be mothballed.

Agreed. You need the strongest military capacity possible - on general principle ...

I don't believe airstrikes alone are the whole solution to ISIS, though ... any more than carpet-bombing Afghanistan in 2001 destroyed Al Qaeda. Nope ... sorry to say this, but boots on the ground are needed as well, no matter how much politicians would balk at that idea.

darin
07-27-2016, 07:50 AM
Happens to be the most-boring A10 video, probably ever :(

Try this


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-Ti7Jrh_JE

GravyBoat
07-27-2016, 01:02 PM
No, neither Obama nor Trump is going to end ISIS/ISIL/IS since doing so would go against the Oded Yinon Plan for Greater Israel. United States foreign policy is entirely consistent with the goals of Global Zionism.

ISIS isn't going anywhere unless Russia and China say otherwise.

NightTrain
07-27-2016, 01:31 PM
No, neither Obama nor Trump is going to end ISIS/ISIL/IS since doing so would go against the Oded Yinon Plan for Greater Israel. United States foreign policy is entirely consistent with the goals of Global Zionism.

ISIS isn't going anywhere unless Russia and China say otherwise.


Back to ranting about our Zionist Overlords, eh? :laugh:


As to the OP :

http://www.debatepolicy.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9159&stc=1

aboutime
07-27-2016, 01:54 PM
No, neither Obama nor Trump is going to end ISIS/ISIL/IS since doing so would go against the Oded Yinon Plan for Greater Israel. United States foreign policy is entirely consistent with the goals of Global Zionism.

ISIS isn't going anywhere unless Russia and China say otherwise.


Gravy sinkin Boat. Be patient. There will be help for you when Trump reopens all of the INSANE hospitals for people like you who have no idea...YOU BECOME WHAT YOU HATE.

Gunny
07-27-2016, 01:59 PM
No, neither Obama nor Trump is going to end ISIS/ISIL/IS since doing so would go against the Oded Yinon Plan for Greater Israel. United States foreign policy is entirely consistent with the goals of Global Zionism.

ISIS isn't going anywhere unless Russia and China say otherwise.

You're right. Kill them ALL. Problem solved. When I kill an ant nest, I ain't looking for prisoners nor survivors.

GravyBoat
07-27-2016, 02:20 PM
Back to ranting about our Zionist Overlords, eh? :laugh:

The United States is inextricably intertwined with the goals of Zionist Israel. That's a fact not a rant. Our foreign and military policies are bleeding We the People of our life's blood.

Obama is a champion of Global Zionism, the Israelis absolutely adore him, he's the greatest American ally Israel has ever known.

Elessar
07-27-2016, 02:23 PM
The United States is inextricably intertwined with the goals of Zionist Israel. That's a fact not a rant. Our foreign and military policies are bleeding We the People of our life's blood.

Obama is a champion of Global Zionism, the Israelis absolutely adore him, he's the greatest American ally Israel has ever known.

You are wrong, obsessed, and deluded. Obama has never supported Israel.

Should we get back on topic?

aboutime
07-27-2016, 02:27 PM
You are wrong, obsessed, and deluded. Obama has never supported Israel.


Elessar. Look at how the Gravy master of yuk has turned this thread around. I enjoy how twisted they get as enemies when they see a threat...LIKE A-10's...., sounding like Hillary and her Gang of Liars. Gravy is so deep in hatred for Jews. He is convinced Obama is just like him...trying to use reverse stupidity to make a point.

Gravy. I wish I could honestly feel sorry for you. But that would be like saying I love Obama. And I am not a Liberal sheeple like you seem to want to be.

GravyBoat
07-27-2016, 02:28 PM
Gravy sinkin Boat. Be patient. There will be help for you when Trump reopens all of the INSANE hospitals for people like you who have no idea...YOU BECOME WHAT YOU HATE.
Listen, you need to lay off changing my handle in this portion of the forum and making insults. I've reported your untoward insults for moderation. What you said is what's said when someone has nothing to say.

Now listen to me, our boys are fighting and dying for Global Zionism and nothing more, our US Treasury is empty because of Zionist Israel. Now let me ask you, do you really think the United States is better off since 1967? If you think so, than you're the one who has no idea.

Black Diamond
07-27-2016, 02:32 PM
You are wrong, obsessed, and deluded. Obama has never supported Israel.

Should we get back on topic?
what? You mean to tell me loading Iran's nuclear rifle isn't supporting Israel?

Gunny
07-27-2016, 02:53 PM
Let's lighten up gentlemen. If y'all want to piss on each other, take it to the Steel Cage. If I have to start moving posts/threads ain't NOBODY going to be happy.

Back on topic: GravyBoat I don't believe in that global Zionism nonsense. That particular line ain't going to sell here. And that I know of, no one you're arguing with is a Jew.

I personally think Jews are dumbasses. They vote for the party that continually sells them out. Go figure that one out.

GravyBoat
07-27-2016, 02:57 PM
Happens to be the most-boring A10 video, probably ever :(

Okay, getting back on topic - there's no such thing as a boring A-10 video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm3JF9o06DU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm3JF9o06DU

Gunny
07-27-2016, 03:10 PM
Okay, getting back on topic - there's no such thing as a boring A-10 video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm3JF9o06DU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm3JF9o06DU

No such thing as boring A-10 ride either. I hate pilots. If I'm aboard. I like them if I'm on the ground. Those guys are nuts. "Watch this, Corporal". NO! I don't want to watch this. I want you to land my ass where you're supposed to. We don't need you to impress me with your flying ability. Impressed is when my boots hit the deck.

GravyBoat
07-27-2016, 03:31 PM
I went up in a Blackhawk and the pilot was showing off. He said, "Hey, did you know these things can fly almost upside down?" Yeah, I didn't need to find that out. Sometimes the nut that holds the blades on the rotor mast comes off.

Gunny
07-27-2016, 03:42 PM
I went up in a Blackhawk and the pilot was showing off. He said, "Hey, did you know these things can fly almost upside down?" Yeah, I didn't need to find that out. Sometimes the nut that holds the blades on the rotor mast comes off.

I had Vietnam vet pilots as a troopie. Tell them they can't do something. It 's like " No Major, a Huey can NOT do a 380." "Watch this Cpl". Oh shit.

Elessar
07-27-2016, 07:10 PM
No such thing as boring A-10 ride either. I hate pilots. If I'm aboard. I like them if I'm on the ground. Those guys are nuts. "Watch this, Corporal". NO! I don't want to watch this. I want you to land my ass where you're supposed to. We don't need you to impress me with your flying ability. Impressed is when my boots hit the deck.

I frikkin' hate flying. But I had to when doing area familiarization...
Never told the aircrew I hated it though - that is an invitation for them to show off!:laugh:

Gunny
07-27-2016, 08:09 PM
I frikkin' hate flying. But I had to when doing area familiarization...
Never told the aircrew I hated it though - that is an invitation for them to show off!:laugh:

Oh they made a game of it. Trying to see who they could make puke. The bastards. But we all had our evil ways. I LOVED getting you other service types in the field and I know the squids tried to make us sick as well.

I just hated it when you got my little troopies seasick. They were useless for a week. I had to cover their damned jobs.

aboutime
07-27-2016, 08:16 PM
Listen, you need to lay off changing my handle in this portion of the forum and making insults. I've reported your untoward insults for moderation. What you said is what's said when someone has nothing to say.

Now listen to me, our boys are fighting and dying for Global Zionism and nothing more, our US Treasury is empty because of Zionist Israel. Now let me ask you, do you really think the United States is better off since 1967? If you think so, than you're the one who has no idea.

Just for you GravyBoat...I will happily apologize for telling the truth. What you call insults, I call stated facts. As for our boys you say are fighting for Global Zionism. Many of them who might read your words would merely laugh at you, and your anti-semetic gobbly-gook, that only seems to please you. By the way. My oldest son....The U.S. Marine would also laugh at you. He always enjoys being confronted with ignorance...first hand.

GravyBoat
07-27-2016, 08:29 PM
Just for you GravyBoat...I will happily apologize for telling the truth. What you call insults, I call stated facts. As for our boys you say are fighting for Global Zionism. Many of them who might read your words would merely laugh at you, and your anti-semetic gobbly-gook, that only seems to please you. By the way. My oldest son....The U.S. Marine would also laugh at you. He always enjoys being confronted with ignorance...first hand.

Apology accepted.

Gunny
07-27-2016, 08:35 PM
Which one is Havoc? I recall reading after I retired the Marines had a squadron of them out of MCAS Yuma. They were grounded because they apparently couldn't fly. :laugh:

darin
07-28-2016, 02:51 AM
Okay, getting back on topic - there's no such thing as a boring A-10 video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm3JF9o06DU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gm3JF9o06DU

Yes - that first video. Snooze-fest.

NightTrain
07-28-2016, 09:38 AM
The United States is inextricably intertwined with the goals of Zionist Israel. That's a fact not a rant. Our foreign and military policies are bleeding We the People of our life's blood.

Obama is a champion of Global Zionism, the Israelis absolutely adore him, he's the greatest American ally Israel has ever known.


If you think that Obama has supported Israel in any way, then you haven't been paying attention.

The Israelis loathe him almost as much as I do. He actively interfered in Netanyahu's re-election by supporting the opposition by funneling money through the State Department, paved the way for Iran to claw their way out of the box we put them in with the added benefit of nukes on the horizon, snubbed their leader when he visited and howled in outrage when Netanyahu spoke directly to Congress about the insanity of cutting deals with the Iranians.

Your knowledge on the subject appears to be roughly zero.

I'd suggest reading actual news stories instead of propaganda Skinhead sites.

GravyBoat
07-28-2016, 01:15 PM
If you think that Obama has supported Israel in any way, then you haven't been paying attention.

The Israelis loathe him almost as much as I do. He actively interfered in Netanyahu's re-election by supporting the opposition by funneling money through the State Department, paved the way for Iran to claw their way out of the box we put them in with the added benefit of nukes on the horizon, snubbed their leader when he visited and howled in outrage when Netanyahu spoke directly to Congress about the insanity of cutting deals with the Iranians.

Your knowledge on the subject appears to be roughly zero.

I'd suggest reading actual news stories instead of propaganda Skinhead sites.
My knowledge of the subject is vast, comprehensible, and defensible. Also, Netanyahu is not popular in Israel. Therefore, it's time for Israel to move away from their Dark Ages mentality, stop their criminality, genocide, and continuing land theft against their Palestinian neighbors. They must give back to them what they stole in 1967, and embrace the common sense solutions for peace put forth by our President, State Department, and United Nations.

jimnyc
07-28-2016, 02:38 PM
Can we please get off of the zionist/Israel crap and back to the subject at hand. I don't want to move more posts to the cage area, as everyone is adults, but let's please try and stay on topic.

Elessar
07-28-2016, 03:16 PM
This is a series of lengthy videos on the A-10, but
well worth the look.

From the History Channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBIORL_0h-8

GravyBoat
07-28-2016, 03:24 PM
Is there anything that could replace the A-10?

AMAZING A-10 FACTS: http://controversialtimes.com/politics/brrrrrrt-amazing-facts-about-americas-favorite-plane-the-a-10-warthog-videos/

5 PLANES THAT COULD REPLACE THE A-10: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/03/14/5-Attack-Planes-Could-Replace-10-Warthog

WHY THE ARMY DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE A-10: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/why-the-us-army-could-care-less-about-the-10-warthog-16704

Gunny
07-28-2016, 07:57 PM
Is there anything that could replace the A-10?

AMAZING A-10 FACTS: http://controversialtimes.com/politics/brrrrrrt-amazing-facts-about-americas-favorite-plane-the-a-10-warthog-videos/

5 PLANES THAT COULD REPLACE THE A-10: http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/03/14/5-Attack-Planes-Could-Replace-10-Warthog

WHY THE ARMY DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE A-10: https://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/why-the-us-army-could-care-less-about-the-10-warthog-16704

Why get rid of something that works just fine? All this "this is better" crap wastes billions of dollars. I flew in birds built before I was born.

If I call for close air support I want something low and slow with chain guns and missiles that can hit where I pop smoke. A-10's are awesome.

AND, last I heard from an Army Birdog, the Army doesn't even fly fixed-wing aircraft anymore. So who cares why they wouldn't want a fixed-wing plane?

I'll take a Navy or Marine pilot ANY day over and Army or Air Force pilot. Those dudes are bad ass and don't bother telling them they can't fly that close to the deck.

GravyBoat
07-28-2016, 09:49 PM
Why get rid of something that works just fine? All this "this is better" crap wastes billions of dollars. I flew in birds built before I was born.

If I call for close air support I want something low and slow with chain guns and missiles that can hit where I pop smoke. A-10's are awesome.

AND, last I heard from an Army Birdog, the Army doesn't even fly fixed-wing aircraft anymore. So who cares why they wouldn't want a fixed-wing plane?

I'll take a Navy or Marine pilot ANY day over and Army or Air Force pilot. Those dudes are bad ass and don't bother telling them they can't fly that close to the deck.
The previous linked article on the five planes said could replace the A-10, none seem anywhere as capable as the A-10. Some of them don't even seem better than the Douglas Skyraider, used to great effect in Korea and Vietnam. It seems they've also been using a couple OV-10 Broncos against ISIS successfully.

But the concern now is for stealth, since the newest Soviet close-in missiles are said to defeat the A-10's countermeasures. That's why the F-35 is being touted as the next go-to for CAS, it would seem to fit the bill, plus they've got to use that "too big to fail" platform for something, even though it wasn't originally intended for CAS. That and the B-1 is what top brass want for CAS (another too big to fail platform).

CLOSE AIR SUPPORT WIKI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_air_support

Gunny
07-28-2016, 10:23 PM
The previous linked article on the five planes said could replace the A-10, none seem anywhere as capable as the A-10. Some of them don't even seem better than the Douglas Skyraider, used to great effect in Korea and Vietnam. It seems they've also been using a couple OV-10 Broncos against ISIS successfully.

But the concern now is for stealth, since the newest Soviet close-in missiles are said to defeat the A-10's countermeasures. That's why the F-35 is being touted as the next go-to for CAS, it would seem to fit the bill, plus they've got to use that "too big to fail" platform for something, even though it wasn't originally intended for CAS. That and the B-1 is what top brass want for CAS (another too big to fail platform).

CLOSE AIR SUPPORT WIKI: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_air_support

Pardon me if I don't bother with your Wiki link. I could tell THEM about CAS. I used to fall asleep in class. I can read a 6 digit map and know how to handle a radio. Every Cpl and above does in the Corps. Call back to the ship, give the coordinates, and have a can of smoke. The comm guy tells you what freek to get on to talk to the pilot so he can verify the color of your smoke.

Then duck.