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namvet
07-30-2016, 11:40 AM
remembering the USS Indianapolis and the men who died 71 years ago

http://i66.tinypic.com/iqvjbm.jpg

this site has a tool bar that explains the events leading up to and after the disaster. including the court martial of her CO

http://ussindianapolis.org/

I do want to see the sequel when it comes out


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ond2rHPjeUM

Elessar
07-30-2016, 01:53 PM
I read the whole history of this incident.

It was a needless tragedy that was blamed on the skipper, but was
largely due to the Navy's neglect - not his.

Gunny
07-30-2016, 01:58 PM
I read the whole history of this incident.

It was a needless tragedy that was blamed on the skipper, but was
largely due to the Navy's neglect - not his.

No shit. How do you lose one of your frigates? Must take a genius. "Hey, we're missing a boat". Really? How do you lose one?

namvet
07-30-2016, 02:02 PM
I read the whole history of this incident.

It was a needless tragedy that was blamed on the skipper, but was
largely due to the Navy's neglect - not his.

yeah the USN screwed the pooch on this one

Elessar
07-30-2016, 02:08 PM
No shit. How do you lose one of your frigates? Must take a genius. "Hey, we're missing a boat". Really? How do you lose one?

Without going back to the sites, I recall the Indy was under Top Secret comms while transporting the
atomic bombs.

After that mission, someone somehow did not lift that comms plan and left her pretty much stranded.

namvet
07-30-2016, 03:31 PM
No shit. How do you lose one of your frigates? Must take a genius. "Hey, we're missing a boat". Really? How do you lose one?

back in those days the Navy did not report the movements of warships. known as a moverep. in this case the Indy was changing commands and and was not reported over due. nobody had the first damned clue where she was. those guys floated out for 6 days till some officer noticed she was way over due. a search and rescue was ordered. by this time the 800 survivors was dwindled down to 300. there's the cluster fuck

during the sinking Radio did get off an SOS but before the ID codes were sent power off lights out. the distress was picked up ashore. but no codes no rescue. Jap subs sent fake SOS calls to draw out rescue ships for targets.

after this the rules of course changed. all ships regardless of type was required to send a moverep. reporting its departure time course speed and ETA. to the command it was leaving and CC to the new command. I sent a shitload of these reports during Nam. as did everyone

Gunny
07-30-2016, 10:18 PM
back in those days the Navy did not report the movements of warships. known as a moverep. in this case the Indy was changing commands and and was not reported over due. nobody had the first damned clue where she was. those guys floated out for 6 days till some officer noticed she was way over due. a search and rescue was ordered. by this time the 800 survivors was dwindled down to 300. there's the cluster fuck

during the sinking Radio did get off an SOS but before the ID codes were sent power off lights out. the distress was picked up ashore. but no codes no rescue. Jap subs sent fake SOS calls to draw out rescue ships for targets.

after this the rules of course changed. all ships regardless of type was required to send a moverep. reporting its departure time course speed and ETA. to the command it was leaving and CC to the new command. I sent a shitload of these reports during Nam. as did everyone

I remember how lousy comm used to be. And I'm NOT aiming that at the people. The comm itself. I'm a grunt. DOn't know much about it except you need 10 batteries for a Prick 77 and 2 might work and you don't want to be the guy humping the radio. That antenna makes you Target Numero Uno.

I was just being sarcastic. The whole event was a tragedy. Make through all this sh*t only to be eaten by a shark. That's FUBAR.

hjmick
07-31-2016, 07:36 AM
Sadly, most people only know of the Indianapolis because of this:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMl1NbR0h_A

Gunny
07-31-2016, 08:48 AM
Sadly, most people only know of the Indianapolis because of this:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMl1NbR0h_A

I don't. Quint was in Jaws. right? I remember the historical fact. I never made that connection.

namvet
07-31-2016, 09:33 AM
Jaws was the first time the public was aware of the Indy. many survivors came forward confirming Quints story

http://i66.tinypic.com/2wp2vb8.jpg

Gunny
08-01-2016, 12:27 AM
Jaws was the first time the public was aware of the Indy. many survivors came forward confirming Quints story

http://i66.tinypic.com/2wp2vb8.jpg

I never connected the 2. I saw jaws when I was about 16. I don't like any of the actors so I basically sleep-walked through the movie.

I learned about the Indy watching the history channel. You know, back when they showed history. :rolleyes: Those squids have my utmost respect. Hardcore. Could you imagine some of these wimpydoodles we have now going through that?

namvet
08-01-2016, 09:18 AM
I never connected the 2. I saw jaws when I was about 16. I don't like any of the actors so I basically sleep-walked through the movie.

I learned about the Indy watching the history channel. You know, back when they showed history. :rolleyes: Those squids have my utmost respect. Hardcore. Could you imagine some of these wimpydoodles we have now going through that?

there were a lot of Marines that died in this disaster. it was crewed by 1,196 men. seems large even for a heavy cruiser. the reaction to the movie took me by surprise. fear and revenge. people were afraid to get in the bathtub. my god there might be a 2 ton 25 ft great white in there :laugh::laugh: and the real sharks were hunted down and killed by the thousands because of a mechanical shark.

Richard Dreyfuss, who played Cooper narrated a 2007 movie called Ocean of fear. it straighten out a lot of myth's about sharks



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYMUXISGWOk

Gunny
08-01-2016, 09:32 AM
there were a lot of Marines that died in this disaster. it was crewed by 1,196 men. seems large even for a heavy cruiser. the reaction to the movie took me by surprise. fear and revenge. people were afraid to get in the bathtub. my god there might be a 2 ton 25 ft great white in there :laugh::laugh: and the real sharks were hunted down and killed by the thousands because of a mechanical shark.

Richard Dreyfuss, who played Cooper narrated a 2007 movie called Ocean of fear. it straighten out a lot of myth's about sharks



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYMUXISGWOk

I can imagine very well. Lived in Miami at the time. People wouldn't get in the water or the trigger happy folks wanted to go kill sharks.

AND ... I have seen "Jaws" at the Universal Studio Tour. I would be LMAO. A pair of pliers would work better on that piece of crap. :laugh:

namvet
08-01-2016, 09:51 AM
I can imagine very well. Lived in Miami at the time. People wouldn't get in the water or the trigger happy folks wanted to go kill sharks.

AND ... I have seen "Jaws" at the Universal Studio Tour. I would be LMAO. A pair of pliers would work better on that piece of crap. :laugh:

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iwsqFR5bh6Q/hqdefault.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/t9zm12.jpg

if you haven't had enough its running all day this week LMFAO!!

Gunny
08-01-2016, 09:56 AM
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/iwsqFR5bh6Q/hqdefault.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/t9zm12.jpg

if you haven't had enough its running all day this week LMFAO!!

I was waiting on you to post that, bubba. :laugh2:

Elessar
08-01-2016, 10:08 AM
I can imagine very well. Lived in Miami at the time. People wouldn't get in the water or the trigger happy folks wanted to go kill sharks.

AND ... I have seen "Jaws" at the Universal Studio Tour. I would be LMAO. A pair of pliers would work better on that piece of crap. :laugh:

I was working as a lifeguard near Avalon NJ when the movie had come out.

Every time people saw a fin in the water, many would be screaming SHARK! Ummm..
dolphins have curved fins, sharks are more squared off!

Gunny
08-01-2016, 10:24 AM
I was working as a lifeguard near Avalon NJ when the movie had come out.

Every time people saw a fin in the water, many would be screaming SHARK! Ummm..
dolphins have curved fins, sharks are more squared off!

People crack me up. If you can't tell the difference between a porpoise's fin and a sharks, go play in your kiddy pool in the yard. You don't deserve to be in the ocean and you DO deserve to be eaten. Damned fuckwits.

I remember going snorkeling with this one jughead. "Watch me shoot the barracuda". WHAT?!. Spear bounced right off. Gee who could have predicted THAT. :rolleyes: Guess what the cuda does when attacked?

Keep your uneducated asses in a pool.

namvet
08-01-2016, 10:35 AM
People crack me up. If you can't tell the difference between a porpoise's fin and a sharks, go play in your kiddy pool in the yard. You don't deserve to be in the ocean and you DO deserve to be eaten. Damned fuckwits.

I remember going snorkeling with this one jughead. "Watch me shoot the barracuda". WHAT?!. Spear bounced right off. Gee who could have predicted THAT. :rolleyes: Guess what the cuda does when attacked?

Keep your uneducated asses in a pool.

those cuda's are mean bastards. when we were on Key West one flew out of the water and in a split sec almost ripped a woman's arm off

Gunny
08-01-2016, 10:51 AM
those cuda's are mean bastards. when we were on Key West one flew out of the water and in a split sec almost ripped a woman's arm off

They'll attack anything shiny. I recall people saying "you can catch them with a silver spoon". Why the Hell do I want to catch one?

Where in Key West? I lived in Sigsbee Park. Was housing for NAS Key West.

namvet
08-01-2016, 12:58 PM
They'll attack anything shiny. I recall people saying "you can catch them with a silver spoon". Why the Hell do I want to catch one?

Where in Key West? I lived in Sigsbee Park. Was housing for NAS Key West.

you mean where on the Island?? the southern part. not far from shore. on a house boat which were very popular then.

Truman had a house down there on the base

Gunny
08-01-2016, 01:28 PM
you mean where on the Island?? the southern part. not far from shore. on a house boat which were very popular then.

Truman had a house down there on the base

Now you KNOW I'm a smartass. Not far from the shore in Key West means Key West. Didn't hand out house boats for base housing though. :laugh: