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Kathianne
09-15-2016, 12:08 PM
Can't say I'm enthused, but anything to stop Hillary:

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/09/15/dead-heat-nytcbs-poll-shows-trump-clinton-tied-nationally-four-way-race/

Kathianne
09-15-2016, 12:10 PM
http://www.smobserved.com/story/2016/09/15/news/gary-johnson-just-shy-of-15-debate-participation-threshold-in-latest-polls/1954.html

jimnyc
09-15-2016, 01:46 PM
I think he's definitely taking votes from Hillary, which is a great thing. I think Stein is even taking away some votes, if not as many. I'm sure some are also going to Johnson, away from Trump as well. The national polls show a difference of .7 with Johnson and Stein factored in. But support is also growing for Johnson right now, as he's making a huge push to be able to get into the upcoming debates. It'll be interesting to see if he makes it as he's right on the edge, as I think he was a point or 2 off with the latest poll. But he has a day or 2 to move that up a tad.

Kathianne
09-16-2016, 08:19 AM
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/gary-johnson-hillary-clinton-polls-228240


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Noir
09-16-2016, 11:40 AM
I guess whichever side loses will claim votes going to libatarian/greens etc lost them the election and will use that to scare future voters by 'Remember when you voted for a different party and you go Hilary/Trump when you didn't want them?!!'

jimnyc
09-16-2016, 12:46 PM
Libertarian Gary Johnson Adds to Clinton's Challenges With Young Voters

Gary Johnson's standing in polls isn't enough to get him into the presidential debates, but it's enough to complicate an increasingly competitive race for the White House.

The unpopularity of both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton has opened an opportunity for third-party candidates, and pollsters say Johnson, a Libertarian who will be on the ballot in all 50 states, is pulling slightly more votes from Clinton than Trump.

The question now is whether Johnson will sustain that, potentially costing Clinton electoral votes in a close race reminiscent of the 2000 election, or will his support fade as voters take a serious look at their choices.

"In any other year, I'd say that the safest prediction would be to take Johnson's current average of 8 percent and cut it in half by election day, giving him about 4 percent when everything is said and done, but it's not a conventional year," Democratic strategist Craig Varoga said via e-mail.

Johnson serves as a reminder that two essential components of the coalition that elected President Barack Obama — young voters and independents — aren't happy with Clinton, even if they are turned off by Trump.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/Gary-Johnson-Clinton-Challenges-Young-Voters/2016/09/16/id/748590/