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Kathianne
09-21-2016, 01:53 PM
Or will Trump really embrace? Nah, kick him to the curb. I never could get excited about my last chance to vote GOP. Seems to me that he will only have alienated all by coming in now and endorsing.

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/09/21/cruzs-campaign-manager-hes-impressed-trumps-new-discipline-thinks-endorsing-every-day/


Cruz’s campaign manager: He’s impressed with Trump’s new discipline and thinks about endorsing every dayPOSTED AT 12:01 PM ON SEPTEMBER 21, 2016 BY ALLAHPUNDIT
A Twitter pal reminds me of this prediction from late July:
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Cruz will endorse Trump quietly via a press release in October
6:46 AM - 20 Jul 2016 (https://twitter.com/allahpundit/status/755760751655084032)



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</twitterwidget>Looks like I’ll get close to the target but maybe not a direct hit. The endorsement might come sooner, and given the tone of Jeff Roe’s comments here, it might be more enthusiastic than just a press release:


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Jeff Roe on whether Cruz will support Trump: "I think he’ll have an answer before Election Day."




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On potentially supporting Trump, Jeff Roe says Cruz "thinks about it every day."
6:51 AM - 21 Sep 2016 (https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/778592450432479232)



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Roe suggests Cruz is somewhat warming up to Trump.

"To be honest ... watching Donald run a better campaign lately has been helpful to him."
6:52 AM - 21 Sep 2016 (https://twitter.com/PatrickSvitek/status/778592785586790400)



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It always seemed likely Cruz would sit it out if Trump were down big in polls, tweeted John McCormack (https://twitter.com/McCormackJohn/status/778593824348184576) of the Weekly Standard, and back Trump if it ended up close. Right. A non-endorsement at the convention could always be undone later, sort of, by having Cruz back Trump in the final weeks before Election Day if need be. But an early endorsement couldn’t be undone. If Cruz climbed aboard the Trump train in Cleveland, he’d be along for the ride no matter which crazy places that train might go. So he took the more prudent route — wait and see — but didn’t expect the backlash (http://hotair.com/archives/2016/09/18/reince-priebus-might-penalties-2020-presidential-candidates-dont-back-trump-year/) he ended up receiving for his “vote your conscience” pitch. He’s probably been looking to catch the train ever since. And now that Trump has mellowed out a little and stands a real chance of winning, Cruz might feel safer in endorsing after all. If nothing else, it’ll ease some of the atomic butthurt among his donors and political allies and lower the odds of a Senate primary challenge in two years.


That’s one theory, that Cruz really is “softening,” to borrow a phrase from Trump. The other theory is that Cruz actually hasn’t said a word to Roe about backing Trump and Roe is trying to use public pressure to get him to reconsider, for whatever reason. Maybe Roe himself has swung around to an “anyone but Hillary” position or maybe Roe is being a very clear-eyed pragmatist about the political trouble that holding out is causing Cruz. Remember this NRO piece (http://www.nationalreview.com/article/438549/ted-cruzs-convention-speech-donald-trump-non-endorsement-spark-blowback) from last month? According to Eliana Johnson and Tim Alberta, Roe wanted Cruz to say clearly in his convention speech that he’d be voting for Trump in the fall:



While an explicit endorsement was out of the question, his advisers and confidants were bitterly divided over whether he should announce that he planned to vote for Trump in November: His campaign manager Jeff Roe and his longtime best friend David Panton were in favor, according to a source familiar with the internal debate, while finance chairman Willie Langston, campaign chairman Chad Sweet, and chief strategist Jason Johnson were against.

Now, two months later, here’s Roe nudging Cruz again, this time in front of an audience, to change his mind. Erica Grieder, who’s been covering Cruz for years for Texas Monthly and would have some insight into the internal politics of Team Cruz, thinks this is in fact a case of Roe trying to muscle his candidate:


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My sense is that @jeffroe (https://twitter.com/jeffroe) wants @tedcruz (https://twitter.com/tedcruz) to endorse Trump https://twitter.com/joshuagreen/status/778592336204931072 … (https://t.co/Ae5MwV8YW6)
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</twitterwidget>Steve Deace, who knows Cruz and campaigned for him in Iowa, also sees a play being made here by Roe:


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2 things that kill political brands:
1) Stand tall on principle when it matters most, and then walk away from it for no good reason.
(1/2)
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(2/2)
2) Have staff that use the media to pressure you into doing what they want you to do, not what you think is right.
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Bottom line: If Cruz did reluctantly endorse Trump, would it help him? Most reaction, I think, would run along these lines (https://twitter.com/alexburnsNYT/status/778594405158715392), with Trumpers contemptuous of Cruz for his fair-weather friendship and Cruzers bitter that the Man Of Principle™ was evidently too scared of a tough primary to stand firm on “conscience.” Donors might like it, though, as a better-late-than-never gesture, at least to the point where they’re unwilling to spend millions to bankroll a challenger. I think he’ll cave. But then, I’ve always thought he would.

Bilgerat
09-21-2016, 03:15 PM
I know that there's a LOT of heartburn between the two, but I'd love to see Trump (as President) put Ted on the SCOTUS!:salute:

Perianne
09-21-2016, 03:18 PM
I know that there's a LOT of heartburn between the two, but I'd love to see Trump (as President) put Ted on the SCOTUS!:salute:

Another "yep".

@Bilgerat (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=3372), you are on your game today!

(now that I know the reason for your name, I feel bad calling you "Bilgerat".)

Bilgerat
09-21-2016, 03:26 PM
Another "yep".

@Bilgerat (http://www.debatepolicy.com/member.php?u=3372), you are on your game today!

(now that I know the reason for your name, I feel bad calling you "Bilgerat".)


For the first, thank you. :laugh:

For the second, please don't. I take great pride in my background! :salute:

Kathianne
09-23-2016, 02:16 PM
Could be today?

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/09/23/report-ted-cruz-endorse-trump-soon-monday/


Report: Ted Cruz could endorse Trump as soon as this afternoonPOSTED AT 2:01 PM ON SEPTEMBER 23, 2016 BY ALLAHPUNDIT
Some Cruz fans on Twitter are scoffing at this (http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/cruz-poised-endorse-trump/) because it comes from LifeZette, Laura Ingraham’s website. Of course an ardent Trumper like Ingraham wants to believe Cruz is prepared to endorse! Or so the theory goes.


I believe it, though. And there are reasons why you should too.



Sources close to the Trump campaign have confirmed Cruz is close to endorsing his former — and sometimes bitter — GOP rival. Talks between Cruz staff and the Trump camp have been regular in recent weeks, and have grown more serious as Trump has closed the gap with Hillary Clinton in key battleground states.
Those with knowledge of the ongoing discussion say logistics of the endorsement are still being discussed but that it could happen as early as Monday, ahead of the first presidential debate. Those sources noted that Cruz has become seriously concerned about the long-term threats to the Constitution and conservative priorities should Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton win the White House.


“Sources close to the Trump campaign” say so? We can’t trust them to tell us what’s honestly going on, can we? Well … yeah, maybe, if Cruz’s allies are hearing the same thing. And at least one Cruz ally is. Talk-radio host Steve Deace campaigned for Cruz in Iowa and knows him personally. He’s an ardent #NeverTrumper and has said for months that he believes Cruz would never endorse Trump. A few days ago, though, when the “Cruz will back Trump” rumors started swirling, something changed. Click any of the images in the tweet below for examples. Deace obviously heard something through the grapevine from Cruz’s inner circle to make him believe that an endorsement really is forthcoming:

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Kathianne
09-23-2016, 02:43 PM
He did so. All principled, thinking folks will vote Trump.

https://www.facebook.com/tedcruzpage/posts/10154476728267464